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New 588 blown hemi build. #1129738
12/08/11 01:50 AM
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Decided to take the plunge and build big. I was going to do a 604" Hemi but the block is not a raised cam block and with Tim banning helping me he recommended to go with a 588"and won't be any clearance issues since I am using GRP aluminum rods and the cam profile I will need for the blower. I just had my 493 stroker assembled and will run that until the hemi is complete and hoping to have the car complete by summer (HOPING).
The best part is I have my lovely wife's blessing to go ahead with it so .........

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Why so big on the motor? What is your plan for the motor when finished? Tell more details if you would?

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Why not such a big motor no replacement for displacement.


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1129741
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YEA MAN,good for you!!


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My condition is fully BLOWN!!
Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1129742
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Why not such a big motor no replacement for displacement.




The blower IS displacement, which is why you don't need to run as many inches to make power with manifold pressure.


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Get-X] #1129743
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I guess if you got the go ahead from mamma then GO BIG OR GO HOME!!! Whats it gonna hurt? Its going to be awsome!



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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Moparnut426] #1129744
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Good luck with the build, keep us updated on your progress.


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Get-X] #1129745
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Why not such a big motor no replacement for displacement.




The blower IS displacement, which is why you don't need to run as many inches to make power with manifold pressure.





500": is a good foundation, less piston speed and stress.. You going with a traditional Hemi, or a BAE which would be better and cheaper?


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1129746
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Why not such a big motor no replacement for displacement.




The blower IS displacement, which is why you don't need to run as many inches to make power with manifold pressure.





500": is a good foundation, less piston speed and stress.. You going with a traditional Hemi, or a BAE which would be better and cheaper?




For sure 588 is just plain dumb for a blown motor, you will have big time oil control issues and will make a lot less boost with 588 inches verses 488 or something like that.

My motors are 451" and make close to 3000HP.

Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Moparnut426] #1129747
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I guess if you got the go ahead from mamma then GO BIG OR GO HOME!!! Whats it gonna hurt? Its going to be awsome!



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Kasey




its going to hurt driveline parts

Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Challenger 1] #1129748
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Why not such a big motor no replacement for displacement.




The blower IS displacement, which is why you don't need to run as many inches to make power with manifold pressure.





500": is a good foundation, less piston speed and stress.. You going with a traditional Hemi, or a BAE which would be better and cheaper?




For sure 588 is just plain dumb for a blown motor, you will have big time oil control issues and will make a lot less boost with 588 inches verses 488 or something like that.

My motors are 451" and make close to 3000HP.




i have to agree with the above. any combination between 451 and 528 would be a much better choice. they are much easier on parts too. the long arm on a 588" motor is just a poor choice IMO.


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: blown572dart] #1129750
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Well for starters, to the nay sayers you can call Tim Banning and tell him that the choice of a 588" is just plain dumb. My combo is being put together with his guidance and lots of the parts will be coming from him. I am not looking for huge HP just 1200-1500 nor will I be chasing ETs. Tim has assured me that this is the way to go to reach my goal with as little as boost as needed. I am building this to have fun at the track and some on the street ( going to shows ) so I think if someone of Tim Banning's caliber is helping and guiding me than I don't think it a poor choice and by the way I am doing this because I can and I am not asking you to like it, I am just sharing my build.

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I was not trying to bash you just asking why? I was just trying to pass along info that I have learned building my hemi.Keep us posted on your progress I for one love to hear about these builds.

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Well for starters, to the nay sayers you can call Tim Banning and tell him that the choice of a 588" is just plain dumb.




Sorry but it is, for reasons I mentioned. You don't need to have a big ole stroker crank in there with boost. It's not a good idea because boost keeps the oil from draining back fast enough. And we all know stroker cranks throw around more oil and why go to the expense of a stroker crank when it's not needed with a blower. It put's extra stress on everything and you don't need extra stress with boost, it already stresses the motor big time.

When someone mentions a large blown motor, I can tell this is there first blown motor, just trying to help.
A blown 588 hemi sounds just plain dumb to me, sorry.

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what size blower are you planning to use?


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Performance Only] #1129754
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A 14-71 has been recommended.

Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Challenger 1] #1129755
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Well for starters, to the nay sayers you can call Tim Banning and tell him that the choice of a 588" is just plain dumb.




Sorry but it is, for reasons I mentioned. You don't need to have a big ole stroker crank in there with boost. It's not a good idea because boost keeps the oil from draining back fast enough. And we all know stroker cranks throw around more oil and why go to the expense of a stroker crank when it's not needed with a blower. It put's extra stress on everything and you don't need extra stress with boost, it already stresses the motor big time.

When someone mentions a large blown motor, I can tell this is there first blown motor, just trying to help.
A blown 588 hemi sounds just plain dumb to me, sorry.




see 1 bad azz black 572 dart above seems to work well.


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1129756
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Well for starters, to the nay sayers you can call Tim Banning and tell him that the choice of a 588" is just plain dumb.




Sorry but it is, for reasons I mentioned. You don't need to have a big ole stroker crank in there with boost. It's not a good idea because boost keeps the oil from draining back fast enough. And we all know stroker cranks throw around more oil and why go to the expense of a stroker crank when it's not needed with a blower. It put's extra stress on everything and you don't need extra stress with boost, it already stresses the motor big time.

When someone mentions a large blown motor, I can tell this is there first blown motor, just trying to help.
A blown 588 hemi sounds just plain dumb to me, sorry.




see 1 bad azz black 572 dart above seems to work well.




except for the fact that it's not a 572" blown engine in it.


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Re: New 588 blown hemi build. [Re: Performance Only] #1129757
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what did they change it to


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