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Chain steering system drop #1122275 11/27/11 11:06 AM 11/27/11 11:06 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 179 Auburn, Indiana The Duster OP member
The Duster OP member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 179 Auburn, Indiana	Saw this car on a TV show this morning and thought this was a neat way to fix steering angle / placement issues.

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: The Duster] #1122276 11/27/11 11:15 AM 11/27/11 11:15 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,342 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,342 north of coder	i believe there is a couple of outfits making those. i know one has a cover and is "lubed for life". i havent inspected a unit up close to verify the quality however.

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: moparx] #1122277 11/27/11 12:13 PM 11/27/11 12:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	Seen a few of them now. The enclosed type was used on Church's VanGo. 6938490-steering%202.jpg (446 downloads)

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: RodStRace] #1122278 11/27/11 08:37 PM 11/27/11 08:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,537 Freeport IL USA poorboy I Live Here
poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,537 Freeport IL USA	Don't think I'd feel very comfortable with an open gear setup under an open hood. Wouldn't take a very big stone to get caught between the gear and the chain to lock the steering, I think. Might feel a little better about a covered one, but I think that would have to be on my annual check list. Gene

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: poorboy] #1122279 11/28/11 05:17 PM 11/28/11 05:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,992 Escondido, CA. Ron Podsiadly,... Mopar Ron master
Mopar Ron master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,992 Escondido, CA. Ron Podsiadly,...	Quote: Don't think I'd feel very comfortable with an open gear setup under an open hood. Wouldn't take a very big stone to get caught between the gear and the chain to lock the steering, I think. Might feel a little better about a covered one, but I think that would have to be on my annual check list. Gene I agree with Gene, my first thought was no way I would run around with that open like that. one little stone would ruin your day fast now a closed setup would be OK but they cost over $500.00 to buy one 6940514-Screenshot2011-11-28at12.13.40PM.png (309 downloads)

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: Mopar Ron] #1122280 12/01/11 12:10 PM 12/01/11 12:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced B bboogieart master
bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	Then go with the open one and put a cover over it. I would use a screen mash or expanded meatl type of material to be able to show off the unit. Hot rodding and street rodding to me means building not buying. That's how it all started. Just one guys opinion. By the way I LOVE the unit picturede in the first post.. I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: bboogieart] #1122281 12/02/11 12:16 AM 12/02/11 12:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,537 Freeport IL USA poorboy I Live Here
poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,537 Freeport IL USA	I don't really have a problem with the design, least what I can see of it I do have an issue with the sprockets being open to stuff getting in there. Any enclosure would have to be solid, even a fine screen would let in enough dirt & sand to make a mess out of the chain, gears, and bearings in short order. Anything that could get between the chain and the sprocket can jam up the steering. You can not exert enough force on a steering wheel to even over come a small twig if it got between the chain and sprocket. I've had the experience of a locked up steering! Even a second or two will shorten your life by 10 years because of the shear terror of not being able to turn the steering wheel. That short experience was enough to ensure that I don't ever want to have that experience again in my life. Expanded metal would only be slightly better then having nothing. Gene

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: poorboy] #1122282 12/02/11 08:09 PM 12/02/11 08:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Well look at some of the farm equipment stuff, they steer with hydraulic cylinders controlled by a valve hooked to the steering wheel. This looks a lot better than that. First thing I thought of was "quick change". How about a rudimentary two speed transmission using a dog clutch for more ratio in the parking lot and less on the highway? Second thing I thought about was steering "quickener" gearboxes used in street stock type dirt track cars. they look like they probably have chains inside. The whole thing is actually funny after you get over the shock. In a real way it's art. It gets a response from the viewer. Later, R.

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: dogdays] #1122283 12/03/11 08:13 PM 12/03/11 08:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced B bboogieart master
bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	Those hydeaulic operated systems do not go 70 miles an hour down the highway and do the job intended. Speaking of intended job. The picture in the origanal post does not look like a daily driver to me and more of a show car. So for show it looks realy cool. Guess it depends on your usage. It seems there are several options for an enclosed chain. This might even be one that has been uncovered. Don't newer cars use electronics? ie sensors and servos, just like on the gas pedal. If they aren't yet I'm guessing it won't be long. Now that scares me! I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: bboogieart] #1122284 12/04/11 01:12 AM 12/04/11 01:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	Quote: Those hydeaulic operated systems do not go 70 miles an hour down the highway and do the job intended. Speaking of intended job. The picture in the origanal post does not look like a daily driver to me and more of a show car. So for show it looks realy cool. Guess it depends on your usage. It seems there are several options for an enclosed chain. This might even be one that has been uncovered. Don't newer cars use electronics? ie sensors and servos, just like on the gas pedal. If they aren't yet I'm guessing it won't be long. Now that scares me! I believe that chain drive was featured on a Cadillac Edition of Hot Rod TV where the chain drive was in a 32 Ford with a Cadillac engine in it.

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: MuuMuu101] #1122285 12/04/11 12:13 PM 12/04/11 12:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 179 Auburn, Indiana The Duster OP member
The Duster OP member Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 179 Auburn, Indiana	Quote: I believe that chain drive was featured on a Cadillac Edition of Hot Rod TV where the chain drive was in a 32 Ford with a Cadillac engine in it. Here is the link for the full car info and pics. http://www.streetrodderweb.com/features/1008sr_1932_ford_highboy_roadster/viewall.html

Re: Chain steering system drop [Re: The Duster] #1122286 12/04/11 02:01 PM 12/04/11 02:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced B bboogieart master
bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	Thanx for the link. That is one well thought show car. Very nice. I get it about the debri hazzard but like I said I doubt it gets driven much, if at all. Great show case for talent though. I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

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