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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: jvcuda]
#1097070
10/19/11 07:25 AM
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detroit, mi
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After a year,no signs of any corrosion at all.Bought it a local autozone.
Here is a link to the factory:
Nickel copper brake line
Thanks! I ordered a couple coils of it. 
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: jvcuda]
#1097071
10/19/11 09:18 AM
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After a year,no signs of any corrosion at all.Bought it a local autozone.
Here is a link to the factory:
Nickel copper brake line
On what vehicle and does it get driven in the winter ?
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: mopar_man]
#1097072
10/19/11 11:12 AM
10/19/11 11:12 AM
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Not one accident that I know of has been attributed to a copper brake line bursting in the last 50 years here in Newfoundland
And you are from the Newfoundland DOT?
As far as I'm concerned:
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: JohnRR]
#1097073
10/19/11 11:49 AM
10/19/11 11:49 AM
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upstate, New York
jvcuda
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On what vehicle and does it get driven in the winter ?
My '73 Cuda,mostly track time and no winter driving,drag radials and detroit locker is no fun in the rain, let alone snow! If my truck ever needs a line,I will use it.I think it will hold up well here in upstate NY,they salt the roads like crazy.
john
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: Commando1]
#1097074
10/19/11 01:07 PM
10/19/11 01:07 PM
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Newfoundland
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Not one accident that I know of has been attributed to a copper brake line bursting in the last 50 years here in Newfoundland
And you are from the Newfoundland DOT?
As far as I'm concerned:
No I am not from the NL DOT but my dad and I are motor vehicle inspectors. and worked closely with highway enforcement and i can tell that we would be notified immediately if copper brake lines had become an issue .
I believe at present it is not allowed to be installed on motor vehicles here in Newfoundland because there are better products out there that don't rust.
I also respect your opinion but I don't think the pic you posted was the result of a copper brake line.
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: mopar_man]
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10/19/11 01:31 PM
10/19/11 01:31 PM
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Ok ,now that you have expressed your opinion on how copper tubing is unsafe. I have some information for you .
As I said before copper tubing was used extensively here and sold in all the automotive stores.
Not one accident that i know of has been attributed to a copper brake line bursting in the last 50 years here in Newfoundland.We would be one of the first to know as we are automotive inspectors. You cannot physically put enough pressure on the brake pedal to do that . I tried when questioned about it and ended up buckling up my dad's chrysler steering wheel .I then installed a high pressure gauge up by the master cylinder to see what kind of pressure I can get . 3300 psi was all i could push on the pedal . The 70 chrysler had all copper 3/16 line and never swelled , burst , or popped a flair.
Do I use it now ? No because they have decent steel line with a galv/aluminum coating on them now .
If you don't believe me and if you have an old clunker , install a piece on the old car, get the pressure rating for 3/16 copper and see if you can burst it.
I am certainly not advocating the use of copper brakeline , just sayin lots and lots of it was used here in canada.
I seriously doubt they are copper brake lines, copper PLATED steel, yes, copper no.
No Not steel, genuine K type copper , soft and pliable.
I worked and managed an autoparts store in BC for many years; NEVER saw a copper brake line or even heard of one being used and I sold MILES of brakeline.
Oh and FWIW, it isn't the burst strength that would bother me, it's the work hardening and brittleness.
.....and I'm NOT talking about DOT approved copper alloys, I'm talking about some backyard hack making brakelines out of soft copper tubing.
Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
[url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: DPelletier]
#1097076
10/19/11 01:56 PM
10/19/11 01:56 PM
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Cincinnati, Ohio
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Ok ,now that you have expressed your opinion on how copper tubing is unsafe. I have some information for you .
As I said before copper tubing was used extensively here and sold in all the automotive stores.
Not one accident that i know of has been attributed to a copper brake line bursting in the last 50 years here in Newfoundland.We would be one of the first to know as we are automotive inspectors. You cannot physically put enough pressure on the brake pedal to do that . I tried when questioned about it and ended up buckling up my dad's chrysler steering wheel .I then installed a high pressure gauge up by the master cylinder to see what kind of pressure I can get . 3300 psi was all i could push on the pedal . The 70 chrysler had all copper 3/16 line and never swelled , burst , or popped a flair.
Do I use it now ? No because they have decent steel line with a galv/aluminum coating on them now .
If you don't believe me and if you have an old clunker , install a piece on the old car, get the pressure rating for 3/16 copper and see if you can burst it.
I am certainly not advocating the use of copper brakeline , just sayin lots and lots of it was used here in canada.
I seriously doubt they are copper brake lines, copper PLATED steel, yes, copper no.
No Not steel, genuine K type copper , soft and pliable.
I worked and managed an autoparts store in BC for many years; NEVER saw a copper brake line or even heard of one being used and I sold MILES of brakeline.
Oh and FWIW, it isn't the burst strength that would bother me, it's the work hardening and brittleness.
.....and I'm NOT talking about DOT approved copper alloys, I'm talking about some backyard hack making brakelines out of soft copper tubing.
Dave
Years ago I ran 3/8" copper line across my shop, 3 of them for oxygen, acetylene and red grease for chassis lubes.
Guess which one didn't last?
The one that had grease in it, it burst near the pump. It has less PSI in it than do hydraulic brake lines, way less.
So I'm sure reg type K or L copper would never stand up to the pressures brake line are exposed to. Sure of it.
For some reason I ran rigid copper water pipe for my air hose long before I ran soft copper. So my shop is full of copper and has been in place for over 20 years at least.
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: Commando1]
#1097078
10/19/11 05:14 PM
10/19/11 05:14 PM
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JohnRR
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I don't think the pic you posted was the result of a copper brake line.
Of course it wasn't. Didn't expect anyone to believe it was.
It's called artistic license... 
It wasn't ? 
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: Commando1]
#1097082
10/19/11 09:03 PM
10/19/11 09:03 PM
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Kirkland, Washington
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Not one accident that I know of has been attributed to a copper brake line bursting in the last 50 years here in Newfoundland
And you are from the Newfoundland DOT?
As far as I'm concerned:
I saw that on the news--its actually a new Fiat 500 that hit a traffic cone.
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: Y3 70 BEE]
#1097085
10/19/11 10:01 PM
10/19/11 10:01 PM
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How did you break the steering wheel?
By holding on to it as I applied as much force as i could on the brake pedal .
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Re: Copper used for brake line ????????????.
[Re: Evil Spirit]
#1097086
10/19/11 10:08 PM
10/19/11 10:08 PM
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Cincinnati, Ohio
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The oxygen and acetylene are gasses and compress and hold more even pressure. The grease is more of a solid and does not compress, and may see pressure spikes 10 times over the regulated pressure as the regulator cycles.
The regulators are still at the tanks, the lines see between 15-70 psi for the cutting torch.
The grease line got replaced with steel and all is well.
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