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Well now it's decision time.... #1086807
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: Guitar Jones] #1086808
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Man...I am glad that I am not the only one Went from 5/16 to 3/8 push rods on W5s & had to pull the heads... So wile the heads were off I figured I would up grade to a stiffer valve spring from 600 to 700lbs open, thru it together to find the extra spring pressure cracked the top of the intake port where the spring cup sits in front from raising the port roof ... Got a M1 w5 small port intake that has been heavily ported that is too small... a large port W5 that is huge for 414 cid, a w5 tunnel ram I cant use cause of class rules and now I am porting a super victor to match my heads... I have found the more I fool with my engine the further It ushes the 5k stall up to 5500 now in the mud

Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: Guitar Jones] #1086809
10/02/11 02:47 PM
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.




I would put the large port on... it will reduce your
torque some so it will reduce the stall point some

Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1086810
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.




I would put the large port on... it will reduce your
torque some so it will reduce the stall point some





That's what I was thinking, but man I want to make at least a couple passes with TR. You know, just for a baseline of course.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1086811
10/02/11 03:30 PM
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.




I would put the large port on... it will reduce your
torque some so it will reduce the stall point some





But it will likely kill shift recovery slowing the car down. I would try tightening lash and see if that helps or hurts, then go the way the engine/car tells you.


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Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1086812
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.




I would put the large port on... it will reduce your
torque some so it will reduce the stall point some



Reduce torque ... ... .... .... ..... .... Torque is your friend.... they sell bigger tires & smaller gears

Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: emarine01] #1086813
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.




I would put the large port on... it will reduce your
torque some so it will reduce the stall point some



Reduce torque ... ... .... .... ..... .... Torque is your friend.... they sell bigger tires & smaller gears




I'm using the only pro gear ratio available for my 8.75, a 4.86. I could put a taller tire on it though, Maybe it's time for a 'glide, have to think long and hard about that one.

Anyway now that I have the intake and the rockers off I can see where the PRs are touching and it's slight, just at the top of the hole and not all of them are rubbing, only ten are so I don't need much. I'm going to try to get it clean and dry, mask it all off with duct tape and just hand file it. Wish me luck.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: emarine01] #1086814
10/02/11 05:02 PM
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.




I would put the large port on... it will reduce your
torque some so it will reduce the stall point some



Reduce torque ... ... .... .... ..... .... Torque is your friend.... they sell bigger tires & smaller gears




He said with what he had... and I would think that a
6000 stall point would be above his torque

Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1086815
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Masked it all off after cleaning it real good with laquer thinner and clearanced them on the car, carefully used a shop vac to get all the pieces I could then dusted it off with a blower. Peeled the tape off and only maybe 4 filings on the head. Used the shop vac sucked them up. Success!!! I so did not want to pull the heads.

Now that the intake is off though I'm going to take a look at the cam lobes position using the different valve lash adjustment procedures.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: Guitar Jones] #1086816
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Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: Guitar Jones] #1086817
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Masked it all off after cleaning it real good with laquer thinner and clearanced them on the car, carefully used a shop vac to get all the pieces I could then dusted it off with a blower. Peeled the tape off and only maybe 4 filings on the head. Used the shop vac sucked them up. Success!!! I so did not want to pull the heads.

Now that the intake is off though I'm going to take a look at the cam lobes position using the different valve lash adjustment procedures.




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Re: Well now it's decision time.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1086818
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After inspecting and resetting the valve lash this morning it all looked good but now I see where the pushrods are touching the heads. The new HS rockers required a .280 longer pushrod and that has moved it closer to the intake side of the head. So now the heads have to come back off, OK I can deal with that but since this engine stalls my 4200 converter to 6000 now I'm thinking it makes way more power than I anticipated so I'm considering putting a single 4 back on it instead of the TR. I have a large port M1 and a small port M1 for the W5's. Just not sure what to do now.

It's always something.




I would put the large port on... it will reduce your
torque some so it will reduce the stall point some



Reduce torque ... ... .... .... ..... .... Torque is your friend.... they sell bigger tires & smaller gears




He said with what he had... and I would think that a
6000 stall point would be above his torque



Mike... I was just messin with ya







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