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Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: POS Dakota] #1084317
09/29/11 11:07 AM
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I did some dyno testing with a couple of different pump premiums (93 octane) earlier this year. I used to run Sunoco in my last street car and found that my local Citgo fuel made a noticable difference in hp and tq.
I have not tried the Shell stuff yet,I guess I will try that next time I have a pump gas build on the dyno.
Keith

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1084318
09/29/11 11:13 AM
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Just a word for you guys.... if you see a tanker truck
in the station dumping fuel.... pass on your fill up
for a hour or so.... as he is dumping fuel in the tanks
he is stirring up the water at the bottom(ALL of the
tanks have water in them)... let it settle out then
you can fill



Not true since ethanol's introduction. Keeps water out in big tanks just like little tanks.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1084319
09/29/11 11:19 AM
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Just a word for you guys.... if you see a tanker truck
in the station dumping fuel.... pass on your fill up
for a hour or so.... as he is dumping fuel in the tanks
he is stirring up the water at the bottom(ALL of the
tanks have water in them)... let it settle out then
you can fill



Humm.... Fuel tanks... I have seen one or two over the years, The fuel quality is only one part of the equation, the required testing of bulk fuel batches provides protection that most all fuels are good @ that point... the storage and distribution system plays a huge part in what you burn, some stations maintain their systems better than others, some don't maintain @ all...not even a pump filter those are the ones to avoid cause in effect you are cleaning the storage tank when you buy your fuel If your fuel has ethanol and you live on the east coast in a humid location, pump a new gal into a see thru container and let it sit for a week @ check out what you paid close to 4 bucks for

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #1084320
09/29/11 03:01 PM
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Just a word for you guys.... if you see a tanker truck
in the station dumping fuel.... pass on your fill up
for a hour or so.... as he is dumping fuel in the tanks
he is stirring up the water at the bottom(ALL of the
tanks have water in them)... let it settle out then
you can fill



Not true since ethanol's introduction. Keeps water out in big tanks just like little tanks.




I don't get that one??
Ethanol is hygroscopic and phase separation is a huge problem in marine apps.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #1084321
09/29/11 05:07 PM
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Quote:

Just a word for you guys.... if you see a tanker truck
in the station dumping fuel.... pass on your fill up
for a hour or so.... as he is dumping fuel in the tanks
he is stirring up the water at the bottom(ALL of the
tanks have water in them)... let it settle out then
you can fill



Not true since ethanol's introduction. Keeps water out in big tanks just like little tanks.




So you think there isnt water setting in the bottom
of a stations tanks... You think the ethanol just
absorbs the water and holds it... let it set and
you'll see

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1084322
09/29/11 05:56 PM
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we can pull right up to the av-gas pump and fill the car...owner says he dont care,lol...thats the best pump gas around here!

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1084323
09/29/11 08:15 PM
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Another nod to shell V-power in the Sandusky OH area. I used to run BP but about 15 years ago I switch to shell. Had bad spark knock with a new engine for several years and figured the comp. was to high. My brother told me to try shell and that cured my problem. Since then it is all I use.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: rapom] #1084324
09/29/11 08:56 PM
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Rapom..could you give me some details about the engine that was "cured" by the Shell gas? Especially your compression ratio! Thanks!

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #1084325
09/29/11 09:25 PM
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Just a word for you guys.... if you see a tanker truck
in the station dumping fuel.... pass on your fill up
for a hour or so.... as he is dumping fuel in the tanks
he is stirring up the water at the bottom(ALL of the
tanks have water in them)... let it settle out then
you can fill



Not true since ethanol's introduction. Keeps water out in big tanks just like little tanks.


Rut Row.... Your not the guy that makes the BP commercials about how safe fracking is

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: emarine01] #1084326
09/29/11 09:35 PM
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Those durn Frackers!!!

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: emarine01] #1084327
09/30/11 10:45 AM
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Not that fracker guy. Just my opinion after 30 plus years of Wholesale and Retail gasoline sales. My current C-store in Missouri that has mandatory ethanol blending,has shown that water will not stay in the tanks. I also have 10micron fuel filters that would plug immediatly if trapping any water. This is a higher volume store so that phase seperation is not an issue. However, my research indicates that all ethanol blended fuel will be phase seperating in 90 days irregardless of any aftermarket additives. So if you have had it that long, get rid of it.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #1084328
09/30/11 11:36 AM
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Ok Mac... ya got me beat by a few years, We have been cleaning fuel tanks & recycling fuel for around 20 odd years now, As far as the 10mic filters you are way better than most Ethanol does not seem to be a problem till ya get into very high humidity locations where phase separation happens in around 1 week, Ethanol sucks up water like a dry sponge, <hydroscopic> and the water weight drops the ethanol to the bottom of the tank<instant phase seperation> The only way it wont happen in in a non vented storage tank, The problem is so bad in Eastern NC most marinas wont sell E10 & the ones that do have a very profitable fuel system repair service, You are lucky you dont have to deal with the E fuel problems we have here on the coast

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