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UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? #1084297
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Has one brand been deemed "BETTER" than the others?...as far as octane consistency and chemical composition? Pump gas only...not Rockett,or anything else that you can buy in 55 gal. drums! Thanks in advance! Randy

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Not sure about now a days but a few yrs ago I would only use Sunoco 93/94 and if I couldnt get that I would get Mobil 93

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Not sure about now a days but a few yrs ago I would only use Sunoco 93/94 and if I couldnt get that I would get Mobil 93



i know the sunoco in my town is using a different fuel in there tanks then they did 2 years ago. now im running 110 in mine, cuz i have been having some problems that i beleive to be fuel related.


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Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1084300
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Not that I have noticed. I have put 92 shell and off brand gas in mine and 93 Sunoco with no difference noted in performance. Last time I went to the track I stopped at the 7/11 and put 10 gallons of 92 in and raced on that. Ron

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: 383man] #1084301
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My friend did a bunch of research on this last year.
He came up Shell as the best in the NE ohio area.

I run there V-power 92-93 in my Dart.

I also run there 87 in my every day driver.

I get better milage when i stick with Shell.

I notice a difference when i run anything else.

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theres a chart available on the net from "big brother" that shows consistency and quality amongst the top 25 or so brands. It was posted in the Q&A section about a year or two ago; a search may prove useful.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: HEMIDARTS] #1084303
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My friend did a bunch of research on this last year.
He came up Shell as the best in the NE ohio area.

I run there V-power 92-93 in my Dart.

I also run there 87 in my every day driver.

I get better milage when i stick with Shell.

I notice a difference when i run anything else.


i've got some friends who do some testing and shell always comes up on top.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: lewtot184] #1084304
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Sounds like Shell gets the "early" nod! Thanks for the info,guys!

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Labratt] #1084305
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i was told by the owner of the gulf station at elizabeth and groesbeck,,,,, that amoco is the best,, then shell,, then mobil

i bought a new mustang boss 302,, and was wondering this myself,, since i want to put "good" gas in it

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i was told by the owner of the gulf station at elizabeth and groesbeck,,,,, that amoco is the best,, then shell,, then mobil

i bought a new mustang boss 302,, and was wondering this myself,, since i want to put "good" gas in it




There are not any Amoco stations left around here.
The old amoco is now a shell.
But didnt amoco end up merging with BP?
I think all the BP's say amoco on them?

On a side note my other friend swears that BP is the best.
But he also owns stock in BP so that might sway his judgement!?

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: HEMIDARTS] #1084307
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i try to only use BP as it seems much better than some others including Sonoco. mobil and shell are not common around me though either.

all new gas sucks though.

Drag Week story.

at one of the checkpoints, a guy was complaining about his carb running like crap, jokingly my friend says, ask Ray, he has 3 of them on his motor. so i went over to look at it. i asked him to take the air cleaner off and there it was plain as day, fuel pumping out of the squirters. the car was not running. just sitting there. i said your boiling your fuel. he said engine is running 30 degrees hotter than when he runs e85.

not many e85 stations so he was switching carbs for the rides between tracks


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Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: HEMIDARTS] #1084308
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Jeff..wasn't that a BP station a while back..that sold Amoco gas? I vividly remember Amoco commercials..and their stating to have the highest quality gas on the market! I'm just wondering if I'm short-changing myself,by using Speedway gas in the GTX?! Maybe I should do a google search on gas quality testing! Thanks for the info,fellas!

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Labratt] #1084309
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We sold and ran Amoco 93 premium when I worked at Mercedes/Benz. That is all my Ford buddy and myself would run.
Have you considered marine fuel?? Anything sans Ethanol has to be better then pump stuff. I run 90 octane recreation only fuel in my boat, generators and lawnmowers and very happy with it.

dude, you missed out on all the BIG fish!! We caught 22 Tarpon this season, over a dozen jewfish, lots of snook, redfish and seatrout!! Shark bite is hot right now.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: MegaDart] #1084310
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Thanks for that info,Wayne! Lots of marina's 30-45 min. from here! So..none of the gas for boat usage has ethanol added? Is it worth paying extra for it? FISHING?!!! Sounds like you had a BLAST! Now..You know you'll have to send me your address,and phone number in a PM! My wife and I are planning to come down to the Gulf Coast again,either in March..or April! I'd LOVE to go out..and catch some REAL fish...not 6" Grunt fish!

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Labratt] #1084311
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I personally have not seen any difference b/t brands. I normally run Shell. I have been having issues the past couple years w/ rattling the converter bolts loose b/c of detonation. Not audible, but it is doing it. Just replaced the flexplate and bolts due to this.
I recently found a store locally that has ethanol free fuel so I'll be trying that soon. If the ethanol free stuff doesn't help, then I'm gonna have to start mixing again. Makes me mad b/c the whole reason I built this hemi is b/c I was tired of buying race fuel.
Seems like the last couple years the pump fuel has really gotten bad.


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Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: moderncylinder] #1084312
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i was told by the owner of the gulf station at elizabeth and groesbeck,,,,, that amoco is the best,, then shell,, then mobil

i bought a new mustang boss 302,, and was wondering this myself,, since i want to put "good" gas in it




Ever been to the BP station at 11 mile and little mack?
They sell 110 leaded in the summer...their 93 is good too.

I also like Marathon 93 believe it or not. Runs great in my 20 psi turbo caliber.

Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1084313
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I personally have not seen any difference b/t brands. I normally run Shell. I have been having issues the past couple years w/ rattling the converter bolts loose b/c of detonation. Not audible, but it is doing it. Just replaced the flexplate and bolts due to this.
I recently found a store locally that has ethanol free fuel so I'll be trying that soon. If the ethanol free stuff doesn't help, then I'm gonna have to start mixing again. Makes me mad b/c the whole reason I built this hemi is b/c I was tired of buying race fuel.
Seems like the last couple years the pump fuel has really gotten bad.




I also had som pinging this summer where I had always ran my timing, and had to re tune a little. I also had a convertor bolt and a trans bolt come loose I caught...Pump gas has gotten bad, and all we have around here now is 91 junk fuel with ethanol.


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Re: UNLEADED PREMIUM QUALITY??? [Re: Labratt] #1084314
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The only data I have on pump gas analysis is so outdated it can't be relevant anymore w/ today's blends (old David Vizard stuff from the '90s). I think it's all sh!t these days, but FWIW I use either Sunoco or Shell when I have the choice.

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Just a word for you guys.... if you see a tanker truck
in the station dumping fuel.... pass on your fill up
for a hour or so.... as he is dumping fuel in the tanks
he is stirring up the water at the bottom(ALL of the
tanks have water in them)... let it settle out then
you can fill

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The only data I have on pump gas analysis is so outdated it can't be relevant anymore w/ today's blends (old David Vizard stuff from the '90s). I think it's all sh!t these days, but FWIW I use either Sunoco or Shell when I have the choice.




It is all crap compared to what it once was, I'll give you that!

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