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Electric Choke on a T-quad #1083677
09/27/11 04:12 PM
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I’ve been contemplating the possibility of upgrading the intake on my 72 Roadrunner. Currently has the stock case iron 340 intake feeding the 410 stroker through a 400 spec thermoquad. If nothing else, it could use a diet… sumbitch is heavy!

I want to maintain a quasi stock appearance, and like the performance with the thermoquad, so I’m not looking the change carbs.

One of the restrictions in upgrading the intake though is the factory choke thermostat that won’t work on any aftermarket intake. Furthermore, I’d like to block off the exhaust crossover as well. So regardless of what intake I use, converting to an electric choke is a must.

Will the Thermoquad accept the electric choke mechanism off any other carb, like an Edelbrock or late T-quad? Really haven't looked at it closely myself. Anybody done it?


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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: 471Magnum] #1083678
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No way to use the SuperQuad ThermoQuad attached choke on a divorced choke T.Q. This is because the bases are different. And that means that the Edelbrock, Holley and other Carter 4bbl attached style chokes will not work either. There is a non 12 volt asist, totally mechanical divorced choke that will work properly on a '73-'84 oem intake or any after market intake for the same style choke. The Borg Warner part number is BWD TH192 , David.

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: DEMONSIZZLER] #1083679
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I'd seen the electrically assisted divorced chokes. That limits my intake selection somewhat.

Thanks for the definitive response.


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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: 471Magnum] #1083680
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My Offy intake has a place to drop in the stock bimetal choke with the wire on it. Just have to make a different length choke rod. Weld a stocker.

Properly tuned you can run them fairly quick in about any weather. No choke! I did that on a daily driver with the crossover blocked, and single digit weather.


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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: Rug_Trucker] #1083681
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I think a Ford V8 TQ has an Electric choke...


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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: pishta] #1083682
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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: dweller] #1083683
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You could buy one of those universal manual choke conversion kits. I put one on my holley and when I was installing it I thought with a little modding of the choke cable bracket I could have made it work with a thermoquad. IMO a manual choke delivers superior driveability over an electric choke.

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1083684
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I did a manual choke on my van when it had a TQ. The cable has to run around from the front side.
Drilled a hole in the floor board for the knob.


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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: 471Magnum] #1083685
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I would NOT run a TQ on a street-car with a totally-blocked crossover. uNless you are in a very-warm climate - 365.

DEFINATELY run an alum intake...they heat up faster and better ...and stick with the std OEM choke in the well.

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: dOoC] #1083686
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I would NOT run a TQ on a street-car with a totally-blocked crossover. uNless you are in a very-warm climate - 365




Why Doc? My intake is a Offy Dual Port on the carpet hauler. I have a Quadrajet on it right now. I ran a TQ for many years.


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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: Rug_Trucker] #1083687
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I would NOT run a TQ on a street-car with a totally-blocked crossover. uNless you are in a very-warm climate - 365




Why Doc? My intake is a Offy Dual Port on the carpet hauler. I have a Quadrajet on it right now. I ran a TQ for many years.




The choke is slower to open when the heated crossover is blocked, especially if you're using a cast iron intake.

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1083688
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I would NOT run a TQ on a street-car with a totally-blocked crossover. uNless you are in a very-warm climate - 365




Why Doc? My intake is a Offy Dual Port on the carpet hauler. I have a Quadrajet on it right now. I ran a TQ for many years.




The choke is slower to open when the heated crossover is blocked, especially if you're using a cast iron intake.




I never mentioned I-Ron Myron! OP is looking at aluminum intakes.

BTW a Dual Port Offy is for a low-mid range stump puller. They make others. Usually cheap at swap meets. Very expensive new.

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: 471Magnum] #1083689
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I understand that you already have a prepped TQ...but why not pick up a 9800 series TQ (which has the specific electric choke setup you're looking for) and then implement the kind of changes that you have in your current TQ carb?

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: Diplomat360] #1083690
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why not pick up a 9800 series TQ




Easier said than done.

This is all "what-if" stuff right now. Reality is that I probably won't mess with changing the intake until I'm ready to upgrade the heads. If I upgrade the heads, they'll be RHS (or maybe E'brocks), making the cross-over a moot point. Electric chokes really don't care about the cross-over. You can pretty much tune the opening rate around it.


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Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: Rug_Trucker] #1083691
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I would NOT run a TQ on a street-car with a totally-blocked crossover. uNless you are in a very-warm climate - 365




Why Doc? My intake is a Offy Dual Port on the carpet hauler. I have a Quadrajet on it right now. I ran a TQ for many years.




Yours is totally blocked RT ? .. at what temp is the intake when fully warmed up ? ... actual temp? ...or just too hot to touch? ... My MH project will be put-together with either a Eddy alum Streetmaster or SP2P that will be insulated AGAINST heat-loss.

WHY ? ...for the best air-fuel atomization.

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: dOoC] #1083692
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I have an electric choke TQ on a cast manifold on a non stock 318 in my 77 Power wagon. It starts fine, runs fine in hot or cold weather and it does get cold here. Mine could be a Ford one I didn't know Ford used the TQ until I read this post but I doubt that it's Ford carb because it still works and it hasn't left dead on the side of the road.

Re: Electric Choke on a T-quad [Re: 73rrak] #1083693
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I have an electric choke TQ on a cast manifold on a non stock 318 in my 77 Power wagon. It starts fine, runs fine in hot or cold weather and it does get cold here. Mine could be a Ford one I didn't know Ford used the TQ until I read this post but I doubt that it's Ford carb because it still works and it hasn't left dead on the side of the road.



It maybe a 9800 series. After market, 800 cfm.







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