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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: fig426] #1083255
09/27/11 05:26 PM
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I've given away or loaned $1000's of parts or loaned them at the track.
That being said.If I move freight on one of my trucks it will be billed out.

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: fig426] #1083256
09/27/11 05:50 PM
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I was at MMW and got tired of messing around with a torn breather
grommet, so I went over to the midway and asked Mancini if they
had one. They did but, get this....they frickin' wanted me to pay for it!

If you had come to my pit and I'd had an end for a cable, I'd have
given it to you and refused $1 if you'd offered it but, I think it's
pretty uncool to about a vendor charging you for a part you needed.

You should have been tickled to death you found one.

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: S/ST 3040] #1083257
09/27/11 06:10 PM
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I saw this happen to friend at Norwalk....A guy (racer)needed a special lug nut w/ a collar for Weld wheels, well a friend had a set of 10 in the swap area, and sold them to the guy for 10 or 20 dollars,well the next day after the guy used them...he returned with them and said he wanted his money back because he was "a racer in need".

My friend said "Sorry" ...this guy kept saying but "I'm a racer in need" the guy pulled up in a $10,000 john deere utility truck golf cart he then threw them to the ground and walked away... I don't get it... humilty goes a long way.

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: 10secGTX] #1083258
09/27/11 06:33 PM
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I don't see the reason to complain! He is in the "Parts" business. Personally I like having parts guys at the races, It has bailed me out a few times and yes I expect to pay for a part from a vendor.


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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: poppaj] #1083259
09/27/11 06:49 PM
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I kinda think a vendor has to pay to be there, and its more than fair to expect to pay for something from one of them, Ben or anybody else.

you could have said i will just pass, dont hold it against a guy trying to pay his bills...just my thought...


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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: poppaj] #1083260
09/27/11 06:50 PM
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I wasn't going to reply to this thread, needed time to obsorb how I would have reacted, I will say this, I've been in situations like this & other racers (not vendors) have come through, It was a god sent, especially if your stranded at the track, I had a couple racers over the years ask me "whats it worth" when they had what i needed, I said don't know as long as it ain't a killing "i'm desprit", they named there price & normally it was reasonable, I paid them & was very grateful i found what i needed , & with it only being 5 bucks i wouldn't be complaining, Just think what it would have cost you in just your time & fuel to go to the closest parts house , I'd say you'd be more pist you couldn't be racing.


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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: poppaj] #1083261
09/27/11 06:59 PM
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A couple of you nailed it.

You needed something. Was obviously pretty desperate. Pay the $5 and be quite.

Ben, the guy was a customer. If you want to keep a good relationships with them. Either or. Don't spend time looking for something to help them as they are going to bad mouth you on the net. Or be a gentleman help em out spend time looking and find what they need and give to them with the statement. "catchup with you later"

Business is hard these days. I have had some people sqerm around paying for extra parts. They knew it I knew it. I let it go. But, Bridge Burned.

Ben was it worth all this for the $5? You could have easily made this up in the future if this was a customer.

Leon


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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: Leon441] #1083262
09/27/11 07:06 PM
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Slamming a guy's character in a public forum over 5 bucks... you've got to be kidding...

Get a grip man.


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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: fig426] #1083263
09/27/11 07:15 PM
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First off I had an absolute blast at MMW! It was a long ride and well worth it. Josh did an amazing job, as did everyone involved. The track prep was amazing and Scott the announcer kicked tail. Now for Ben at Promax. Good 'ol Ben at ProMax. I was in a major jamb Saturday morning. Smoked my starter. Bought it from Mancini. Broke my battery cable end taking the old one out. Run to the swap side. Hit up Ben. Tell him my jamb. Goes into his tool box and digs out a nasty old copper end and says, "What's it worth to you"? I say "What?". He says, "Well how much is it worth?". I say "How much do you need?". Five dollars later I got the end. A 50 cent end may I add. Yes I needed it to fix my car, and yes 5 bucks is only 5 bucks, but WHAT THE %&^%*^%?!?!?!?!?!? In my opinion, Ben's no racer at all. He just wants money. Any racer would have offered it up for free and may have accepted the $5 I would have offered up. A real man would have declined the $5 and wished good luck. I've spent alot of money with Ben over the years and will never give him another dime. Even if it means I don't have a part to fix my car!! Rant over.




First off, Ben wasn't there as a racer. He was there as a vendor. Vendors have to pay a fair amount just to set up, and they then have to sell a fair amount just to cover the setup, gas and other expenses. Then, as a salesman and businessman, he has to sell even more product to put food on the table and pay the mortgage. That's how he makes a living. Secondly, a battery cable-sized lug made of copper costs more than 50 cents. You priced copper lately? Now, in the interest of good will, is it a good idea to throw someone a bone once in a while as a good gesture? Sure, and maybe in hindsight he might wish he had done just that, but it's totally unfair for you to A) expect it for free, and then B) trash him on a public forum for trying to run a business. I don't get it. As for my experience, Ben has always been fair with me and a gentleman on top of that. [Climbs off soapbox.]


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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: Allan_G] #1083264
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Ben's a great guy in my book bought our Holeshot wheels from him gave me a better price than everybody I called, and these were custom offset so he probably could have charged me more. I gotta agree with some of the others on here if someone who's trying to make a living selling in this economy and probably didn't make enough to cover his cost of just being there... what's $5

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: Wv68charger] #1083265
09/27/11 08:11 PM
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Pro-Max has always treated me well. Ben gave me the best price around for my cal trak setup. I don't think $5 for a part you needed to race with is worth complaining about. No wonder all the good guys are leaving this board. Just my

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: b1dartsport] #1083266
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: b1dartsport] #1083267
09/27/11 08:21 PM
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Autozone would have made you buy 2 for $7.50 plus tax gas and time

the "whats it worth to you" comment probably would have got him drug over the table, well in my younger days


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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: Wv68charger] #1083268
09/27/11 08:25 PM
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although I dont like the whole "whats it worth to you" and $5 for my time ideal, the bottom line is that he had a part and you needed it, so pay the price and move on, or pass on the part and find it elsewhere.
you didnt pass, so your buyer remorse is BS. Grow up.

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: b1dartsport] #1083269
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Last time I was at napa I seen a copper battery end cost 3-5 bucks depending on the size. At one monster mopar a few years back I needed a carb gasket and Ben was the only vender left in the area. It was late around 8 pm and he looked for one for me and I gave him a few bucks for it. Being late and what not he could have just told me come back tomorrow but he took time to help me for what I needed. I have always found him to be very friendly and helpful.

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: joedust451] #1083270
09/27/11 08:47 PM
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I wasn't going to reply to this thread, needed time to obsorb how I would have reacted, I will say this, I've been in situations like this & other racers (not vendors) have come through, It was a god sent, especially if your stranded at the track, I had a couple racers over the years ask me "whats it worth" when they had what i needed, I said don't know as long as it ain't a killing "i'm desprit", they named there price & normally it was reasonable, I paid them & was very grateful i found what i needed , & with it only being 5 bucks i wouldn't be complaining, Just think what it would have cost you in just your time & fuel to go to the closest parts house , I'd say you'd be more pist you couldn't be racing.





Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: plasticfantastic] #1083271
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although I dont like the whole "whats it worth to you" and $5 for my time ideal, the bottom line is that he had a part and you needed it, so pay the price and move on, or pass on the part and find it elsewhere.
you didnt pass, so your buyer remorse is BS. Grow up.






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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: Triple Threat] #1083272
09/27/11 10:34 PM
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I would have taken the "what's it worth to you" as a give me what ever you want to for the part and would have handed the man $5 out of gratitude, and been tickled that I was able to race some more. It's all about your state of mind and how you choose to look at things.

Re: My rant about Promax at MMW. [Re: fig426] #1083273
09/27/11 11:12 PM
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Goes into his tool box and digs out a nasty old copper end




5.00 ?
99.99987325 % of the people I know would give this away if it hadn't been thrown out long before hand.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong ?
Even at scrap value , .50 would be pushing it.
And a past customer as well ?
I dunno man.
But then , I enjoy helping others when I can.
There is a pay back that doesn't come in dollars , and is worth a lot more at the end of the day.

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