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Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: tboomer] #1082234
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Good job on the win.

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082235
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Did it pick up any?

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: tboomer] #1082236
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Bill....Maybe Jenni should drive your car!!




LMAO Now thats funny !!

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: 11secondC] #1082237
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Did it pick up any?




NO I don't think so..

I just got home from the track..I will fill in with some details tomorrow.. I am too whip right now !

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082238
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Bill....Maybe Jenni should drive your car!!




LMAO Now thats funny !!


What! no response from the blue guy?? I am shocked.


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Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: dartman366] #1082239
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Ok, you want a response..

Try this, If for any reason I was to become unable to drive my car, I would be quite proud to have Jennie behind the wheel. At least till one of my own kids was up to the task.

She is by far not only of the better drivers I've met but she is also a great person overall.

I agree that I'm by no means a force to be reckoned with or someone that you should dread lining up against but as long as I can still get behind the wheel I will continue to do my best to hold my own.

Besides, I don't think she could come to terms with dying her hair blue

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: WILD BILL] #1082240
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Besides, I don't think she could come to terms with dying her hair blue





Well Now I would not rule that out ! LOL She like blue her racing jacket and gloves are blue and she had me paint her last JR blue.And she had a lics plate made in blue for the back of the car. so the car had some blue on it !! And she realy Like to run in the 10.00 class..So if I was you I would not give her that chance LOL..She just might take you up on it !!...You know if we did't luv ya Bill we would not pic on ya !

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082241
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Now back to this Carb,,Not sure I like it !! the driveability Of this thing $ucks..way too cold blooded and once it wram up trying to give it light throttle it hesitation trying to just move the car a little in the staging lanes the Rpms drop down to far it dies..say below 700-800. It will once warm sit there and idle at 150 deg all day long. but over all it don't run cooler . It is a little slower and and so far I do not see it more consistent. I got away from the hesitation on the line by raising the launch rpms by 300 rpms But that makes it way to easy to red eye..Not good. I now have 90-97 jets and .055 squirters in it with pink cam on #2 hole.Dumping alot of fuel in there. after the run turn off the track look at the Temp it is 205 degs ..180 when I stage 150 pulling in to the water box.I am bout to put 50cc pumps on it ! Not sure what else to do to it

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082242
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Sounds like there's hope for her yet

As for the carb, while I wont pretend to know anything about E85 My Alky carb has a 50 and a 30 cc pump. I think the 50 is in the front but I could be wrong.

Also, a lean out valve is a sure fire method of getting heat in the motor. Getting the oil hot is paramount as I learned at the Mo Power race. Sometimes I would have the LO valve open till I was ready to do my burnout.

I have had to, when it's real cold, pour gas down the throat of the carb to get it to fire for the first time in the morning. After that it wasn't an issue. I've also found that if I give it a pump, then start the motor spinning and then lite it it would fire easier.

I also don't turn the fuel pump on till after the motor is running as Alky can easily overcome the needles and pour out the boosters.


Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082243
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Now back to this Carb,,Not sure I like it !! the driveability Of this thing $ucks..way too cold blooded and once it wram up trying to give it light throttle it hesitation trying to just move the car a little in the staging lanes the Rpms drop down to far it dies..say below 700-800. It will once warm sit there and idle at 150 deg all day long. but over all it don't run cooler . It is a little slower and and so far I do not see it more consistent. I got away from the hesitation on the line by raising the launch rpms by 300 rpms But that makes it way to easy to red eye..Not good. I now have 90-97 jets and .055 squirters in it with pink cam on #2 hole.Dumping alot of fuel in there. after the run turn off the track look at the Temp it is 205 degs ..180 when I stage 150 pulling in to the water box.I am bout to put 50cc pumps on it ! Not sure what else to do to it




i am suprised that it doesnt already have 50 cc pumps.
i pretty sure you have way too much jet in it.
Too much fuel will make it stall after a rump.
And if you use the 50 cc pumps i bet your hesitation will go away.

Or... if you send me 20$ and the carb ill take care of it.

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082244
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I found my old combo wanted a lot of pump shot when I foot braked from 1800 on E85, Ended up with 50cc pumps front and back and 50 shooters. 60' times got better till I ended up there. This was on a Indy headed 408 with a hp950.

My you will need at least 1 50cc pump to get the pump shot duration you need(the bigger the shooter the faster the pump is empty) when the carb is happy I think you will be happy with e85's performance/cost.



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Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: Just-a-dart] #1082245
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I have 2 50cc pumps here..I be putting them on..I just needed a little push to do so LOL

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082246
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You gonna be at pacemakers again next weekend Jaime?

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: Chad Bittle] #1082247
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Yes sir be with a improve carb LOL

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082248
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You shouldn't need 50cc pumps. Sounds like the wrong air bleeds to me. What size air bleeds did you stuff in there? I can pull the 950 off my dart if you want to try my carb so you can copy it. The dart has wicked throttle response and never any kind of hesitation but you know how long it took me to figure it out.


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Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: 69dart] #1082249
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I have not change the air bleeds in it. they are listed in my first post ? what do you have in yours?
Are you going to pacemakers this weekend ?

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: VernMotor] #1082250
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On my 850 (E-85) I have 50cc pumps and brown cams. I do believe the 950 has better throttle response than an 850.

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: RBDuster] #1082251
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Well mine is a 950HP..We will get there I keep reading and it will all sink in sooner or later LOL.I do believe that part of problem is in the air bleeds. but do not know for sure what way to go..Dang gone thing sits there and idles so well I hate to mess with the IAB

Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: RBDuster] #1082252
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from what i seen with e85 power value in the can 4 jet the same like 99 holley 2 50 cc pumps 2 50 cc sq lock out dis run it lean out from there just a idea???????????????????????????????? good luck if that dont work i been told you can pour e85 through a loaf of bread and drink it and talk about racing


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Re: OK 3th try with the E-85 update ( 10-7-11 ) [Re: WHITEDART] #1082253
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Jamie my 950 has 63 and 28 air bleeds. I'm not sure about jetting - I can pull the bowls or search the log books if you need.


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