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Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? * -UPDATE 11/5 #1077394
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Recently, my car starts when I release the key when it's cranking, not when it's in the run position. If I don't release the key car will just keep cranking.

This happen to anyone else? What is the cause of this?

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077395
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It could be a bad ballast resistor.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077396
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Your ignition power feed isn't sending juice to the coil during cranking, only in the run position. Could be a bulkhead connector issue.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1077397
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It could be a bad ballast resistor.




Actually no, his problem is the reverse of that. Bad ballast would start while cranking, then die when key is released.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077398
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are you saying the key gets stuck in the start position and you have to move it to the run position?

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077399
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Recently, my car starts when I release the key when it's cranking, not when it's in the run position. If I don't release the key car will just keep cranking.

This happen to anyone else? What is the cause of this?




Did you mean to say "not when it's in the START position"?

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: mikemee1331] #1077400
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are you saying the key gets stuck in the start position and you have to move it to the run position?




No it does not get stuck it will release.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1077401
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Recently, my car starts when I release the key when it's cranking, not when it's in the run position. If I don't release the key car will just keep cranking.

This happen to anyone else? What is the cause of this?




Did you mean to say "not when it's in the START position"?




Right, it won't start when I am holding the key in the start position and the car is cranking.
Once I let go and it goes to the run position, the car starts.

I think I got my different positions right...

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1077402
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Your ignition power feed isn't sending juice to the coil during cranking, only in the run position. Could be a bulkhead connector issue.




So if this was the case, I could test this my checking for juice at the coil when cranking, correct?

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077403
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My '72 W200 does the same thing. On mine, if I turn it just until the starter cranks, it'll start. If you crank the switch hard against the 'start' position, it'll crank all day without starting. I tried to run it down once and the best I came up with was that the lock mechanism had worn so much that when you turn to 'start' hard, it allows the ignition switch to turn past the 'run' position.


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Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: 6PakBee] #1077404
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You have a dual side resistor and the start side is open. Pull the spade connectors off the resistor and put the two wires that are on the top on the bottom and vice versa.
Now if your car starts while the key is in the start position and shuts down in the run position.....you have found the problem.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: mopar_man] #1077405
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I just went through the same thing with one of my cars. In my case it was the ignition switch.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: mopar_man] #1077406
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You have a dual side resistor and the start side is open. Pull the spade connectors off the resistor and put the two wires that are on the top on the bottom and vice versa.
Now if your car starts while the key is in the start position and shuts down in the run position.....you have found the problem.





Not sure where ( what part) you are talking to pull spade connectors from, can you please explain further, thanks.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: TooMany62s] #1077407
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I just went through the same thing with one of my cars. In my case it was the ignition switch.




I just changed the ignition switch ( I was having this issue before I changed it though ).

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077408
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More info ... what year is the car , electronic or points ?? before I can make an ASSumption of the problem .

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077409
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I just went through the same thing with one of my cars. In my case it was the ignition switch.




I just changed the ignition switch ( I was having this issue before I changed it though ).




Same here. I changed the switch out thinking it was the switch. No change in how it responded and continues to respond.


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Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: JohnRR] #1077410
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More info ... what year is the car , electronic or points ?? before I can make an ASSumption of the problem .




70 E body - electronic ignition.

Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: MONC] #1077411
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Funny this should come up, saves me a post. My buddies 73 chall factory electronic is doing the same thing.I did replace the ign switch last year and IIRC could not connect ALL the wires properly thru the banana column connectors as some well meaning "edisons" had added a FORD starter solenoid, God knows why, and done a few things outside the harness.Cranks normally, but no spark in the "cranking" position.(Makes ZERO ignition noises).I just noticed it only starts when you letta go the key.He, being a newbie, cannot remeber if it always did this or if it's a new thing. He did install a ne ballast a couple weeks ago.

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Re: Car starts when key is RELEASED, why? [Re: Sixgun] #1077412
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Cheat - install a push button switch to the 2 terminals on the starter relay and mount on the lip of the dash. Yeah I know it is not right but it works and is a semi theft deterrent. Turn key and push button to start.

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More info ... what year is the car , electronic or points ?? before I can make an ASSumption of the problem .




70 E body - electronic ignition.




Does it have a 2 prong Ballast or a 4 prong ?

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