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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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08/23/11 07:35 AM
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Is the engine code L or N.It would be blue if it's an L code,383 2bbl.N code,383 4bbl would be orange. John.
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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08/23/11 07:37 AM
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A '70 Challenger (JH23N0/JH27N0) or Challenger SE (JH29N0) with a 383 4bbl ("N" - code) should be a non-HP 330 horsepower Carter AVS equipped blue engine with an automatic. A '70 Challenger (JH23N0/JH27N0) or Challenger SE (JH29N0) with a 383 4bbl ("N" - code) should be a HP 335 horsepower Holley equipped orange engine with a 4-speed.  Is the top pad stamped "HP"? Any chance there is a broadcast sheet?
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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08/23/11 02:33 PM
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 All of the engines in 383 4-bbl '70 performance badged Mopars were orange. Challenger R/T, Super Bee, Charger, 'Cuda, & Road Runner. An October "engine assembly date" sounds early for a December built car. I've never seen a "top pad" with the year of assembly stamped " 69". Is this the same car as your other post about the 4-speed? Quote:
it has had one paint job over the original b5 and it has never been apart.
If so, the above quote seems at odds with the transmission being painted orange.
Got pics? Is it a factory "EXPORT" car?
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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08/23/11 03:41 PM
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All of the engines in 383 4-bbl '70 performance badged Mopars were orange.
Challenger R/T, Super Bee, Charger, 'Cuda, & Road Runner.
An October "engine assembly date" sounds early for a December built car.
I've never seen a "top pad" with the year of assembly stamped "69".
Is this the same car as your other post about the 4-speed?
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it has had one paint job over the original b5 and it has never been apart.
If so, the above quote seems at odds with the transmission being painted orange.
Got pics? Is it a factory "EXPORT" car?
I agree have not seen year of assembly stamped on the pad , do you have pictures of all the stampings on the engine and trans ?
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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08/24/11 02:29 PM
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fender tag - sorry i said dec 69 on my first post-try nov 12-got too many numbers spinning through my head at the moment.
thanx again
frank.
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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08/24/11 03:34 PM
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..... -i doubt that it was rebuilt and painted blue and then painted orange in later years.
It's been 40+ years, a lot can happen in that time. If you investigate it further, I'd bet this is what you'd find. Strip a valve cover (do they appear to be original?) last layer of paint off, or stubborn spots should be orange.
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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thanx for the input-i should have got pics before i started this post. attached are some pics but i couldn`t get a clear pic of i.d pad. the car vin is js23n0e119229. the i`d pad reads f383. under that is says 10(oct) then a large space and then 312(31st oct) 2nd shift. at the bttom is says hp.
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the pad on the top is all correct-it has the full date as in 102469 as in oct 24th 1969. i can`t remember if it has hp
I'm ASSuMEing that you incorrectly THOUGHT that the id pad showed the year in the assembly date , if that is the case then what you say that i quoted in BOLD would be the correct way of stamping the ID pad .
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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09/28/11 03:30 AM
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Great info !
I have a "factory EXPORT car". VIN JH23N0Bxxx so, itīs not a RT, but 330hp four barrell 383 car.
Non-AC, automatic, AVS card, blue (turquoise) engine. Exported to Europe in 12/1969, still here, for good.
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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09/28/11 04:54 AM
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The '70 big-blocks are the first year for the "Chrysler Blue" engine paint. When it's old & dirty it resembles turquoise. 1969 is the last year for the "turquoise" engine paint. Can you share the fender tag info for your EXPORT - JH23N0B? 
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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09/28/11 02:59 PM
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My friend just took some pictures yesterday of his 70 Challenger matching numbers,383 N code SE,and the engine is blue. It has the 383 four barrel emblems on the fenders below the center body line just below where the Challenger emblems are.
70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi
70 Charger R/T convertible
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69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar
68 Charger 383
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Re: 70 challenger 383-originally blue engine
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09/28/11 03:51 PM
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It looks like the same color that the one is in my friends 383 SE is.
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69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar
68 Charger 383
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