Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: ahy]
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08/22/11 10:39 PM
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I'll trade you my 360 cu. in. rotating assembly for your 408 cu in rotating assembly. you keep your block, heads, cam, etc. and I'll keep my block heads and cam (magnum vs presumably, an LA based build on your end?) you'll get streetability of a stock stroke engine, I get a 408. win-win!!! (my 360 magnum is fresh, zero miles)
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsi
[Re: stumpy]
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08/23/11 08:12 AM
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Recam and detune the stroker. Unless you are running huge compression it's just a bigger cube engine in the long run.
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: wally426ci]
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08/23/11 02:22 PM
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It definitely helps me to get feedback from everyone.
I will openly take recommendations on cam specs here. I went from a Racer brown cam to a Comp cam. I hear good things about Lunati.
I like the sound of keeping my existing parts for the most part.
I think you need to state exactly what cam you have now to use as a benchmarks of what you don't want.
Still, this is all assuming the car has some decent tune right now. And that it's the cam that's making it rough as opposed to a bad tune, bad part, or something that needs to be repaired.
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: rapom]
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08/23/11 06:31 PM
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Jeff Patterson built me a nice mild 408 stroker (.484 lift) for my 68 Charger. It is the wifes car so it had to be street friendly. I run A/C, and Power Steering, a nice street friendly edelbrock 800 and it only has a 2.94 gear. I took it to the track once and got a 13.28 out of it. I think it would run a 12.90 if I worked at it. Starts up nice in the cold and doesn't have a rich exhaust smell. Drove it up to the Woodword Dream cruise from Ohio and at 70mph, it was at a reasonable rpm. Keep your engine and change the cam and a few other things and you will enjoy the torque.
Just put in a soild lifter cam from him, very happy,very nice guy
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: FurryStump]
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08/24/11 11:06 AM
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Maybe you just need a real good tune on it.
Maybe pitch that 750 for a better design. Never read about anyone happy with them. 800AVS?
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: b5a12bee]
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08/25/11 11:52 AM
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yeah, most people suggest too much duration for a stroker that is going to be used on the street, IMHO
dump the 750 eddie, I'd go with an 800 eddie, or a demonsizzler built t-quad. I know on my 360, I gained a ton of drivability and 2" of idle vaccuum switching from the 750 eddie to a 600. there's a lot of info on the web of people never getting the 750 to run good...sounds like there's a flaw in the design of the internal passages of that carb
intake, Eddie RPM or air gap for a square bore carb, probably a eddie LD340 modded for the t-quad, if you can't find one, probably a weiand action plus, or maybe an M1 single plane (hard to find good spead bore mopar intakes)
for a cam, I'd use the lunati voodoo 60403 if you want to stick to a flat tappet.
fresh heads, a good 5 angle VJ, maybe some home porting opening up the bowls and pushrod pinch
should have a very strong, yet mellow engine that should idle at 800 RPM with probably 14" vaccuum
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
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08/26/11 11:53 AM
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Too funny. I am years away from taking it off the road as our 2nd daughter is due in October. I am leaning toward downsizing the carb, changing heads, cam, converter. Right now I am running a 68 340 cast iron intake.
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: wally426ci]
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08/26/11 10:50 PM
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Keep the stroker - I have a mild 418 in my Dart with good performance and 14 to 15 MPG if I keep my foot out of it crusing around town. 10.1 CR (Ross 16cc Dish Pistons) 800 AVS Edelbrock on a Performer RPM X-Heads (69.3cc) and stock exhaust XE 274H Comp Cam (230/236 - .488/.491) 3:55 Gear Here is a Youtube link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrKBbVmQVf0
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: wally426ci]
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08/26/11 11:41 PM
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Too funny.
I am years away from taking it off the road as our 2nd daughter is due in October.
I am leaning toward downsizing the carb, changing heads, cam, converter.
Right now I am running a 68 340 cast iron intake.
I'm just curious... what is the issue with the heads? What's the benefit of changing?
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Re: Getting sick of the stroker - question about downsize
[Re: ahy]
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08/27/11 01:47 AM
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I'm just curious... what is the issue with the heads? What's the benefit of changing?
I want to know as well. Heads won't make that much difference on the final driveability you seek.
I agree with everyone else, you need to pick a proper cam, install and degree it and you should be fine. I drove my 440 car everywhere before I pulled it apart and it was no problem.
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