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Turbo400 installed #1053127
08/14/11 11:37 PM 08/14/11 11:37 PM
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Well, after numerous nights of working all night, and maybe palying a little hooky from work here and there, the car moved under its own power tonight.

Feels good to drive it around again.

I did learn that GM trannys really need a catch can!!!! I got to clean up a quart of trans fluid of more from under the car, so that will go in tomorrow.

2.10 first gear really feels different...i cant wait to see what it does on the track.... stay tuned,once i get back from woodward i will be off to test
Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053128
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whats the deal Josh? you don't like having a live Grenade under your feet at WOT? LoL, who's TH400 is it? or is it home built.

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: Randy..] #1053129
08/15/11 12:00 AM 08/15/11 12:00 AM
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I really wanted to keep a 727 in the car, but it wasnt possible.....

Its from Dave Klaput at ProFormance, dang nice piece!!!! that and the new 10.5 chance bolt together should work great!
Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053130
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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053131
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I really wanted to keep a 727 in the car, but it wasnt possible.....




Several vendors could of made that happen for you as they have done others. Just none on this site that I know of.

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053132
08/15/11 01:18 AM 08/15/11 01:18 AM
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Josh,
I think that was a great move. I have already made my mind up that the next trans for the Coronet will be a turbo 400. Plus another nice bonus is the flex plate to converter bolts are thru-bolted instead of those darn converter bolts that you always are tightening on a 727 setup. poppaj

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: poppaj] #1053133
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wow josh, thats awesome. what is involved in installing a chevy behind a mopar?
Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053134
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The hard work will pay off and I must say that you have one of the baddest Mopars around.

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: Thumperdart] #1053135
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Thanks thumperdart!!

As far as installing a gm trans in a mopar you need the jw bell housing, jw wheel, jw crank adapter, a t400 with the bell cut off properly, a new drive shaft, fabricated trans mount, new trans cooler lines. New slip yoke, someone who knows how to check a bell, as some are cast/machined bad and need sent back, a dial indicator to index the bell off the flywheel and make sure its dead center and as stated earlier, a catch can...oh and a lot of money and patience. I thought for sure that chevy stuff was cheaper than mopar stuff.... I was dead wrong
Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053136
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Josh...Good luck!! I gotta ask...Why a catch can? Does it leak? I know nothing about a th 400...

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: tboomer] #1053137
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Its a gm tranny thing I guess. I took the cvar for a quick romp last night, got in it 4-5 times, and put it on the transbrake on meridian st downtown once and there was at least a qt of trans fluid that pumped out the vent.
Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053138
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Thats a lot of fluid to pump out!! Wow!!

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053139
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Its a gm tranny thing I guess. I took the cvar for a quick romp last night, got in it 4-5 times, and put it on the transbrake on meridian st downtown once and there was at least a qt of trans fluid that pumped out the vent.



I don't think it should be doing that, maybe a little overfilled plus extra heat? I don't know but that doesn't sound right to me. Maybe you should check with the builder on that.

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: Guitar Jones] #1053140
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Its a gm tranny thing I guess. I took the cvar for a quick romp last night, got in it 4-5 times, and put it on the transbrake on meridian st downtown once and there was at least a qt of trans fluid that pumped out the vent.



I don't think it should be doing that, maybe a little overfilled plus extra heat? I don't know but that doesn't sound right to me. Maybe you should check with the builder on that.


Possibly overfilled? Remember, alot of aftermarket dipsticks are marked wrong. I consider this a must check. My Lokar was wrong on my glide after I checked it with the pan off.
Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: 408strokerdart] #1053141
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Well I would have figured a glide, but a TH400 will hold up...Any reason running the 400 over the glide?

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: Dragula] #1053142
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I talked to mytrans guy and he couldn't believe we didn't run them on our 727s. CSR actually makes a trans catch can. He said it's particularly important in a turbo car as when I'm on the brakes building boost and bumping in, I will heat the trans fluid up in a hurry.

I only have 11 qts in the trans which is one less than was recommended to start with. And I run hydraulic fluid not trans fluid, so I didn't want to waste any.

I went with a t400 because drive so much on the street, I didn't want a glide, as 1st gear would be a bit lethargic.

Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053143
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Yeah I figured there would be extra heat but I don't mess with too many GM trannys so who knew.

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: Guitar Jones] #1053144
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just curious what starts giving up in the 727 at that power level?

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053145
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Well, after numerous nights of working all night, and maybe palying a little hooky from work here and there, the car moved under its own power tonight.

Feels good to drive it around again.

I did learn that GM trannys really need a catch can!!!! I got to clean up a quart of trans fluid of more from under the car, so that will go in tomorrow.

2.10 first gear really feels different...i cant wait to see what it does on the track.... stay tuned,once i get back from woodward i will be off to test



thought 1st gear is a 2.48...did you have that changed??
Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053146
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i hope the trans worksout for ya Josh!hope to see you at norwalk in sept.

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: Clanton] #1053147
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I DONT THINK YOU NEED THE HYD FLUID, UNLESS YOUR BUILDER IS TELLING YOU YOU HAVE TO USE IT, I TRIED A 50/50 MIX WITH TYPE F AND THE HYGUARD......MY TRANS NEVER PUSHED SO MUCH OUT THE VENT (ROSSLER 400)
i WENT BACK TO THE TYPE F AND IT ONLY PUTS OUT ABOUT 1-3 OZ AFTER A DAY AT THE TRACK 3-6 PASSES.

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Re: Turbo400 installed [Re: joshking440] #1053148
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Quote:

I talked to mytrans guy and he couldn't believe we didn't run them on our 727s. CSR actually makes a trans catch can. He said it's particularly important in a turbo car as when I'm on the brakes building boost and bumping in, I will heat the trans fluid up in a hurry.

I only have 11 qts in the trans which is one less than was recommended to start with. And I run hydraulic fluid not trans fluid, so I didn't want to waste any.




I supprised you are having that much coming from the vent. Sometimes there are cross leaks in the pump causing these issues. There are other ways to fix that such as moving the vent from the pump cover to the tail housing.
TH400 are nice transmissions. I have built a few and require some attention in different areas. If its a full manual without the modulator, keep an eye on the main bearing thrust. TH400 don't regulate converter pressure well and can cause issues with the crank thrust.

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DO NOT PUT A 400 INTO NEUTRAL AT THE FINISHLINE

Depending on how your valve body is made, it may cause the drum to speed up and burst. Call the person who made your setup and get specific instructions. You don't want parts and hot oil coming through the floor of the car.

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