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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: HardcoreB] #1049456
08/12/11 02:38 PM
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Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube



What say you 440Jim...how do your valvejobs hold-up? Or are you top-end lubing?


I have never used top lube in E85. My heads haven't been touched (except spring checks) since changing to E85.

Remember, flex fuel vehicles run 100,000-200,000 miles on the stuff.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049457
08/12/11 08:37 PM
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Our fuel in Minnesota is E-70 a good portion of the year. Thankfuly it's usualy the race off season. It's to keep the pump gas guys starting in the really cold weather. The fuel is blended back to E-85 for the summer months. Unless you know what you have you should have a test kit. Most of us can find a little E-98 to blend in if we need to. I'm told there is little or no diference down to E-80 but have not dyno or track tested it to E-85 side by side.




I buy all my E-85 at the pump but I buy it in the
summer time and fill my barrels... I test a sample
first and its always been between 85-86... yes it
does drop to E-70 in the fall to the spring but I dont
buy it then



First, welcome back Bumps! I know SteelDust was talking pure alcohol but, I wonder if a 'top-end' lube is a good idea when running E-85?

Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube



I run Alcohol in my bird for years and i had top lube in it i had the motor apart a bunch the heads was OK no problems but the cylinders you could see some spots but i did not have to bore it just hone it i run in my DUSTER lube because i run straight Alcohol for the cylinders only. But BRAD a friend he runs straight Alcohol with NO lube and he runs in the 4s in a 1/8 of mile but when he gos home he pulls the plugs and puts WD-40 in the cylinders and spins the motor over and i do this to with my 572 motor now.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049458
08/12/11 08:55 PM
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I just thought I'd post this to help with tuning when E85 really isn't E85.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049459
08/13/11 11:22 PM
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Anybody race E85 with Edelbrock carbs? Can't run Holleys as it's a N/SS car. Also motor is 15-1. What do you think?
Doug

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: dvw] #1049460
08/14/11 07:32 AM
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Race fuel like VP 110 is $55/gallon in Australia. E85 is about $12/gallon. Unless you race here you should never complain about fuel costs

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: vc360] #1049461
08/14/11 09:52 AM
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This post caught my attention. I've got a project car for a twin turbo build..how much boost can I build before a detonation problem? I see some fairly high compression #'s ...but no cam specs.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: 440Jim] #1049462
08/14/11 10:03 AM
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Remember, flex fuel vehicles run 100,000-200,000 miles on the stuff.




True, but at least in the case of the Ford vehicles, they also change the valve material to work with the Ethanol on the flexfuel applications only.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: Mopar_Rich] #1049463
08/14/11 10:29 AM
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Thanks for putting up that chart Mopar Rich, I hadn't seen that before.



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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: dvw] #1049464
08/14/11 04:47 PM
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Anybody race E85 with Edelbrock carbs? Can't run Holleys as it's a N/SS car. Also motor is 15-1. What do you think?
Doug




a friend does,this car was converted last weekend driven alitle on the street during the week and was raced this weekend with some ok results but it will take more tuning to get the full benefits for sure. and its "only" a 13:1 motor dont know how E85 will handle 15:1.

we have no idea about how the rubber for the accpump will handle it that is our biggest concern. jetting wasnt that hard even if the results arent perfect or close to it yet,getting the idlesircuit rich enough was worst he ended up taking out the mixturescrews all toghter and just plugging the holes. tunnelramed streetsmallblock with two 500cfm edelbrocks.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: David_in_St_Croi] #1049465
08/14/11 04:49 PM
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you guys are whineing about your racegas price.
In Sweden low octan pump is about $8.50/gallon!!!
E-85 is around $5.80/gallon

racegas is somewhere around $21.50/gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




But you have Swedish blondes walking around everywhere.




yep its insane for sure.

haha all these blondes cost an arm and a leg to live with dont ask me how i know this

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: dvw] #1049466
08/14/11 05:13 PM
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Anybody race E85 with Edelbrock carbs? Can't run Holleys as it's a N/SS car. Also motor is 15-1. What do you think?
Doug




I run 14.1:1 and its fine... its all about the cam
selection when running high compression... you need
a wider LSA to reduce some cyl pressure... I never
used a Ebrock with E-85

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