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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049436
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We've got one car each on E 85 and Methanol both 512's.
My E 85 motor is 13.4 to 1 comp. and the Methanol motor
is an even 14. Both work great. I purchaced the E 85 carb from
Chris at classic motor sports. A real sharp guy that can answer all your questions.
Go the the web site or call hin at 320-352-2051

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049437
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I see your in Tennessee and run at I-40 drag way over in Crossville. Here in East TN all we can get is E70. I checked with the local stations around here and none of them have E-85. They tell me E-70 is all the supplier offers. Something you may want to consider. I am running a blend of meth and E-70 in my car.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: Dabee] #1049438
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I see your in Tennessee and run at I-40 drag way over in Crossville. Here in East TN all we can get is E70. I checked with the local stations around here and none of them have E-85. They tell me E-70 is all the supplier offers. Something you may want to consider. I am running a blend of meth and E-70 in my car.


I have not checked and see if i can get E-85 or not but Alc i love running it and Rupert that makes the carbs he is about 35 miles from me and that makes it easy to get parts and he helps me out and i got to go and pick up my new 1050 up THURSDAY . Hey do you race at knoxville track or 411 any.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049439
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Hey 440 JIM and MR P BODY i see you all run E-85 i have not run it but i run Alcohol


I was running race gas (110) before. I tested E85 in a carb and went with that for 1 year. Then I got the used Flying Toilet injection and started the tune with alky (methanol) for a few months. When I was happy, they helped me tune the system for E85 and have been running it ever since.

IMO, the differences:
1) E85 runs cooler than gas, but not as cool as methanol
2) E85 runs quicker than gas, but not as quick as methanol. Same in cool weather, bigger difference in hot weather.
3) E85 is not as corrosive/troublesome as methanol, but I had no problems with methanol.
4) E85 was the cheapest fuel of the three, considering fuel consumption and cost per gallon.

The only bad part of E85 is the few number of stations that carry it.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: sshemi] #1049440
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you guys are whineing about your racegas price.
In Sweden low octan pump is about $8.50/gallon!!!
E-85 is around $5.80/gallon

racegas is somewhere around $21.50/gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




But you have Swedish blondes walking around everywhere.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: David_in_St_Croi] #1049441
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They cost lots more than any fuel...

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: 440Jim] #1049442
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Hey 440 JIM and MR P BODY i see you all run E-85 i have not run it but i run Alcohol


I was running race gas (110) before. I tested E85 in a carb and went with that for 1 year. Then I got the used Flying Toilet injection and started the tune with alky (methanol) for a few months. When I was happy, they helped me tune the system for E85 and have been running it ever since.

IMO, the differences:
1) E85 runs cooler than gas, but not as cool as methanol
2) E85 runs quicker than gas, but not as quick as methanol. Same in cool weather, bigger difference in hot weather.
3) E85 is not as corrosive/troublesome as methanol, but I had no problems with methanol.
4) E85 was the cheapest fuel of the three, considering fuel consumption and cost per gallon.

The only bad part of E85 is the few number of stations that carry it.


Hey JIM thanks this is what i needed to know about E-85. I just got a barrel of Methanol and it was $153.85 and i put 1 bottle of top lube and two bottles of sent and was $12.99 a bottle and all of it was $192.82 and with my 950 carb i used about a gallon a pass but with my new 1050 ? I have had NO problems with Methanol on my DUSTER but i had some on my bird little ones. Before with my bird i had a 1050 on it i used 1 1/2 gallons a pass. THANKS 440 JIM & MR P BODY

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049443
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Hey do you race at knoxville track or 411 any.




I live eight miles from English Mountain so I mostly run there. I have run at 411, Knoxville, Rogersville, and Bristol. I ran once at I -40 a couple years ago. I’m planning a trip over to I-40 later this year to meet a buddy from the Springhill area. If you decide to come over to 411 let me know and I’ll come over. 411 is only about 30 miles from me.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: Dabee] #1049444
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Hey do you race at knoxville track or 411 any.




I live eight miles from English Mountain so I mostly run there. I have run at 411, Knoxville, Rogersville, and Bristol. I ran once at I -40 a couple years ago. I’m planning a trip over to I-40 later this year to meet a buddy from the Springhill area. If you decide to come over to 411 let me know and I’ll come over. 411 is only about 30 miles from me.


That`s cool hey 411 is redone i here and is a good track now. If you come to I-40 at a BOUNTY race i will be their with my DUSTER and the FRIDAY night before the race testing and tuneing come down we need one more MOPAR their.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049445
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I was at 411 last month and it hasn't been redone. It is under new managment though. The track hooked good both days I was there but the car count was way down. I didn't count the cars but there was only around thirty cars there on Saturday and less than twenty Friday.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049446
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George Rupert is a great carb guy been at it awhile. Another guy is Ken Jones out of Il.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: dare_dude] #1049447
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I just put a 1050 Rupert made for my 572 he made me a 950 and it ran good but he said this is a BAD carb it is all tricked out i guess i will see how BAD it is next FRIDAY night it better be for what i paid for it?

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049448
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getting back to the OP..... what I am reading is that the consistancy(sp) of the E-85 fuel thats out there is not that consistant from batch to batch and place to place.
how much variation do you guys find with it? and how do you correct for it? do you all test the fuel? Keep the info comming.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: steeldust] #1049449
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...and i put 1 bottle of top lube and two bottles of sent and was $12.99 a bottle




First, welcome back Bumps! I know SteelDust was talking pure alcohol but, I wonder if a 'top-end' lube is a good idea when running E-85?

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: bumps440] #1049450
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Our fuel in Minnesota is E-70 a good portion of the year. Thankfuly it's usualy the race off season. It's to keep the pump gas guys starting in the really cold weather. The fuel is blended back to E-85 for the summer months. Unless you know what you have you should have a test kit. Most of us can find a little E-98 to blend in if we need to. I'm told there is little or no diference down to E-80 but have not dyno or track tested it to E-85 side by side.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: Maximus_Wedges] #1049451
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Our fuel in Minnesota is E-70 a good portion of the year. Thankfuly it's usualy the race off season. It's to keep the pump gas guys starting in the really cold weather. The fuel is blended back to E-85 for the summer months. Unless you know what you have you should have a test kit. Most of us can find a little E-98 to blend in if we need to. I'm told there is little or no diference down to E-80 but have not dyno or track tested it to E-85 side by side.




I buy all my E-85 at the pump but I buy it in the
summer time and fill my barrels... I test a sample
first and its always been between 85-86... yes it
does drop to E-70 in the fall to the spring but I dont
buy it then



First, welcome back Bumps! I know SteelDust was talking pure alcohol but, I wonder if a 'top-end' lube is a good idea when running E-85?

Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049452
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Thanks for the welcome

When I used to buy race gas I bought it in sealed drums to assure quality. I used VP C12 or Sunoco Supreme.... both worked very well for me..
But now the atraction to E-85 is local availability, local gas station. and it works for much less money... so I will have to get some and store some to make it consistant and test it of course. havent found any sources for E-98 or 100 as of yet. but when i do it would pay to have some around.

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049453
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I buy all my E-85 at the pump but I buy it in the
summer time and fill my barrels... I test a sample
first and its always been between 85-86... yes it
does drop to E-70 in the fall to the spring but I dont
buy it then


Same here.
I test every batch I buy (fill a 55 gal drum) and it has always checked out 84-86%. Then fill a drum before winter for early spring use. The station in Maryland I use seems to have 85% by the first week in May.


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Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1049454
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Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube




I mention it because the engines we run thru dyno get torn-up pretty good on the seats. This is just changing to E-85. What say you 440Jim...how do your valvejobs hold-up? Or are you top-end lubing?

Re: Racing with E -85 [Re: HardcoreB] #1049455
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Sean, it shouldnt need a lube... it has 15% gas in
it for lube




I mention it because the engines we run thru dyno get torn-up pretty good on the seats. This is just changing to E-85. What say you 440Jim...how do your valvejobs hold-up? Or are you top-end lubing?




The last time I had the heads off my W-9(which has
been run on E-85 for about 4 years now)looked great
BUT they have the beryllium seats

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