Re: WHY
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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07/27/11 08:04 PM
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Really its the "quantity vs. quality" mentality. Look at the people you know that have a bunch of "off shore" anything, from clothes to Die-cast models,more is always better quality be damb'd. I prefer quality rather than quantity I don't usualy buy platinum, but hardly ever buy plastic, with me its about cost vs. use and desired life expectancy. If I dont have the money to buy the thing I want, I'll wait 'till I do, some just gotta have it now...
'01 P1500, Blown/Inj BAE,/Veney ,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60 '01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust, '05 Dodge Magnum R/T - Too Much to list '60 Willys CJ5 '01 International LPX - Project,DT466, Allison '64 Plymouth Valiant, Inj 528 Hemi, 2spd
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Re: WHY
[Re: coronetville]
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07/27/11 09:25 PM
07/27/11 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Maybe some people don't have your money or arrogance
Now who is this directed at
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Re: WHY
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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07/27/11 09:43 PM
07/27/11 09:43 PM
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" Lets Make A Deal"
Pic #1
This guy approached me Sunday at the track with a " problem" with his " new" engine. I know the builder, and I know HE didnt choose these parts. The customer did.He saved a ton.
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: WHY
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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07/27/11 09:45 PM
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Lets Make A Deal 2
You'll notice a pattern here...
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: WHY
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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07/27/11 09:46 PM
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ok...there are 4 levels of parts here....match the price to the parts.....
$1500
$625
$400
$299
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: WHY
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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07/27/11 09:49 PM
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$1500 were in a B1 Top Sportsman car
$625 were in a 9.40 bracket car..never had to adjust the valves once in 270 runs
$400...well...they worked for a while in a 10 second bracket car
$299....worked a few WEEKS in a 10.00 451 bracket car at only 6500 RPM
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: WHY
[Re: sixpackgut]
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07/27/11 09:58 PM
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I try...but I'm gonna keep my day job....
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: WHY
[Re: roadhazard]
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07/27/11 11:06 PM
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I'll be at Thompson Saturday...you gonna be there???????
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: WHY
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07/27/11 11:15 PM
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Thanks Mike for having the guts to say what many others think, and I agree with the statement made, it's not just confined to Mopars, but I seem to come across more tight wads in the Mopar community.
Firstly, let me clarify a couple of things. Being on a "Budget" and being "Cheap" are two different things in my eyes.
Being on a budget to me means a limited budget, and spending it wisely. With my change in personal circumstances (A baby on the way, a partner and step daughter) I don't have the disposal income I used to have. So intern, I spend my $$$ more wisely. In saying that though, I try to avoid the Chinese crap as much as possible and tend to opt for good second hand parts or new second hand stuff. I also try to make or fab whatever I can, or do barter deals. For example I have made a bunch of torque plates etc for a friend, he in turn has machine up my 360 for me. If I buy new, I buy whatever works best for my application from people that look after me. When I say look after me, price is a small part, the advice and service I get is more important.
I have little time or really understand people that are "cheap". They buy on price alone, giving little thought to how long the item might last etc. When buying second hand they will offer well below the asking price (What annoys me even more, is when they then re-sell the item and ask top dollar!) The lengths some of these guys will go to to save a few dollars astounds me.
As example of a tight wad. I make a kit for small blocks so you can run a remote oil filter. I had a gentleman contact me via a local based web forum asking for more details and a cost on the kit. I let him know that the one he inquired about wouldn't fit his application but I was about to finish one that would and the price would be the same. Then he asked if a can make a custom one off right angle outlet fitting and how much it would cost. I gave him a price, it was too expensive. I quoted it cheap considering I would have to design, program, machine and test fit it, and make any corrections that might be necessary. About a week of 2-4 emails a day from this guy, he eventually asks if he can buy just the filter plate, he was going to "butcher up" (his words, not mine) fittings and lines to suit. I gave him a price, he counter offered $5 less, to which I politely declined. About 3 months later he contacted me again, asked how much for the filter plate, to which I gave him the same price. He responded with saying I told him the price he offered, to which I reminded him that he offered me that price and I politely declined. Haven't heard from the guy since. The thing that surprises me most if this is all he needed to get the car going apparently.
The thing that gets me going is the "I can get that from ABC Speed Shop for half that." If they are talking about two identical products, they are being fair and reasonable. Most of the time they are comparing a crappy cast item out of china to a Billet aluminium component made locally. I don't bother explaining the obvious to them anymore, and just advise them they would be probably better going and buying the a fore mentioned product.
I don't know how guys working in Speed Shops and other forms of customer service deal with it from day to day!
Rant off!
Alan Jones
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