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Re: WHY [Re: 493_DART] #1040908 07/27/11 02:54 AM 07/27/11 02:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc E earthmover top fuel
earthmover top fuel E Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc	yea thats right but any time you say 440source,or any other part it starts a war... buy this not that ..the job you save will be yours...lol... and we all know its alot of poeple not on this board and on this board that run this stuff but say stuff to be in the cool crewed..lol if thats what you want and fit the bill do it.. its not being cheap its using what you have ..and there is nothing wrong with that... i have a buddy that works everyday that building a (or shooting for)1000hp in a chassis car and he has it almost going...i have did the same kinda work he do but he makes the best and he is in a better place then i was back then...am i cheap hell no i used what i had to race.....some time you can use what you have and not be the best,and sometime you can have the best and not be able to use it.........if you hit the lotto for 1 mill. and spend 5k on a motor do you think that makes you better then the guy that spent 10k????? i think not cause at the end of the year i wonder whos car is still going with min. or no problem.....think of it this way you can have a movie star if you have movie star money ,but you want be happy long and you can have the wife you got now with what you got now are you happy (just saying are you cheap?????) its more to racing/life then racing money...ims mike

Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040909 07/27/11 07:45 AM 07/27/11 07:45 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 192 MI R RickRoss member
RickRoss member R Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 192 MI	O.K. Mike lets get the blood pressure down a little

Re: WHY [Re: earthmover] #1040910 07/27/11 07:45 AM 07/27/11 07:45 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,212 Canton, Ohio Crazy68Dart pro stock
Crazy68Dart pro stock Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,212 Canton, Ohio	Anymore it is tough (for me anyway) to determine what is USA made and what is not. This could be rectified by calling the company and asking I suppose. It is everywhere. You cannot by reman/replacement parts for your daily driver's without getting into something that was made in mexico, etc. Bottom line is, people want to be in the hobby, but not all can afford top of the line stuff or have the skills or facilities to make their own parts. It comes down to, would it be better for the hobby/industry if they lost numbers due to people not being able to afford parts, or is it better that people stay in the hobby buying some "cheap" parts now and then? Dunno. I know a lot of guys that have given up the hobby due to the cost of even the "cheap" parts. And these are not Mopar guys. 383, Hemi 4-Speed, AlterKtion, D60

Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040911 07/27/11 08:03 AM 07/27/11 08:03 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar master
OhioMopar master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	I know what you are saying, but buying cheap or used would have helped me a ton. I have put the best new stuff I could buy in my car, and 8 years later I am still 'almost there'. Some day... 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: WHY [Re: OhioMopar] #1040912 07/27/11 09:01 AM 07/27/11 09:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi. J JAKE68 pro stock
JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	WHY????? Heres my take. Someone sees how fast or impresive someone elses car or program is and that is what they want to. Only thing is they don't have the budget for it so... Theres your market for the knockoff stuff that is afordable for them. The only thing they do not take in consideration is the chance they take when they don't hold up. Which then cost more in they end. When it comes down to it it seems like we look for the instant gratification because we want so bad that if we just layed back and saved our money and bought the good stuff later on we would spend less in the long run. Oh the need for speed. It is like a drug!!!!!!!!!!!!!Jake Last edited by JAKE68; 07/27/11 09:03 AM. JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040913 07/27/11 09:35 AM 07/27/11 09:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	because we have to pay so much for the body??? really isn't it human nature to look for the best deal? A few things I always look for used are, headers, intakes, carbs Can't really screw those things up. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: WHY [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1040914 07/27/11 10:01 AM 07/27/11 10:01 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	amen MR P i can almost sense ur frustration..easy big fella PS u r 100% correct w your statement

Re: WHY [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1040915 07/27/11 10:24 AM 07/27/11 10:24 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro... L Labratt Good Ol Randy B!
Labratt Good Ol Randy B! L Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...	Mr. Yuck...I totally disagree with you on the notion that a carb can't be bought used, "screwed-up"!!! I've seen more than a few that were SCREWED-UP BIG TIME!

Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040916 07/27/11 10:40 AM 07/27/11 10:40 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,172 Ohio T theclutcher top fuel
theclutcher top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,172 Ohio	It has gotten to the point I laugh to myself at the cheapskates. What really irritates me is when they want to cheap on me at my expense without shame. If one offers something at a decent price and you need it, counter offer fairly. An insult get you nada. DIE FLIPPER DIE. Last edited by theclutcher; 07/27/11 10:41 AM.

Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040917 07/27/11 10:45 AM 07/27/11 10:45 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Hell some or most would call me the cheapest person here because I do make alot/most things on my car BUT I enjoy fabbing... I did build my car... but I dont look for the cheapest off shore part or the cheapest thing thats on e-bag ... and they expect it to fit and or work... it does piss me off that people are loosing their jobs and they continue to buy off shore... and then they wonder why their own job is on the line I enjoy fabing my own stuff too when I can - part of the "You built it" thing verses "you bought it". Agree on the buying off shore thing also ( My licenes plate frame reads " FOREIGN CAR CRUSHER" ), But that has been going on for years - in every facet of our lives. Also agree on the quality issue re: usually not as good as US made ( but not always ). A sight like this can help you sort through the junk stuff a bit, but it really is ( and always has been ) about the $$. The "pay for what you get" is a slippery slope. Not always a true statement. One of the things I enjoy about this sport / hobby is the $$ spent verses the ET. Always a challange for me. 6749039-DSC00729.JPG (25 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: WHY [Re: Crizila] #1040918 07/27/11 11:27 AM 07/27/11 11:27 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx Jacob Pitt master
Jacob Pitt master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx	I am on a budget only being in my late 20's but I count on my car to not let me down at the track, so I put the best parts I can get in them. No I can't afford billet made cranks, but for the power I make I don't need them. I do buy quality whenever possible and it pays off by not breaking in the money rounds. 2013 NHRA D4 Stock Champ #4 in the World IHRA Stock 2x IHRA Div.4 Stock Champ 14x Track Champ All using a Ultimate Converter Concepts converter. Call Lenny today 704-892-6837

Re: WHY [Re: Jacob Pitt] #1040919 07/27/11 11:41 AM 07/27/11 11:41 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 808 mckinney texas S shoebox super stock
shoebox super stock S Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 808 mckinney texas	My car is a super budget car. One income household, new baby, I need To save wherever I can. 1k dollar stealth heads saved me 600-700 Over eddys. In the end it's the same performance. These heads Are proven. My parts choices are appropriate for my goals. If I were to Have a Chinese part take me down I'm not going to tell you! Sorry I don't make as much money as you... Forgive me for wanting to get My car running in this lifetime.... I'm not going to wait 8 yrs to drive My dart 74 dart sport 440 www.Csucarbs.com

Re: WHY [Re: Labratt] #1040920 07/27/11 11:54 AM 07/27/11 11:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Mr. Yuck...I totally disagree with you on the notion that a carb can't be bought used, "screwed-up"!!! I've seen more than a few that were SCREWED-UP BIG TIME! Yes I have to agree with Randy on that. I have seen many people buy used carbs and get someone else's headache. And most of the time that person knows nothing about carbs and cant fix it themself's. I only pick up used carbs from someone I know and trust and if it is a small problem I can fix it myself. But for the money most will be better off spending the money and getting a new carb thats what they really need. I myself think alot of people go with cheaper parts as they feel they will never get their car done buying the best parts. Alot of us car nut gearheads know enough that when we buy cheaper parts we can decide if we think it will work ok. I know when it came to rockers for my new 493 I wanted very good rockers but I wanted a roller rocker and not the iron ductile Isky or Crane I have used most of my life. I looked into it and was ready to buy HS rockers but I came across a great deal on the Hughes roller rockers and I like what I saw in them. And my brother has ran a set of them for 2 years with zero trouble so I went with them which were a bit cheaper then the HS but they still cost a good bit. It is tuff for many people who really cant afford the best parts all the time and dont know which are really good budget priced parts. I see alot of my friends ask me many times about parts they really dont know about and I hate to steer them wrong but they cant always afford what I tell them they should use. I guess thats one of the great things about our great Moparts ! You have tons of good techs and racers to ask on here. Ron Last edited by 383man; 07/27/11 11:56 AM.

Re: WHY [Re: shoebox] #1040921 07/27/11 11:55 AM 07/27/11 11:55 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	my Cuda is filled with the cheapest junk parts i could possibly buy $100 paint job my rad cost $170 for a dual pass off ebay 2 new mr gasket fuel pumps were $55 a piece had my alt built from a ebay member for a 3rd the cost of a powermaster my fans were $13 a piece aluminum fuel line insted of braided hose cheap rack and pinion off ebay relays and other wiring stuff either used or cheap ebay stuff rear susp free dana rear out of a van free motor plate, carpet, seats, belts free or used cheap here is a pic of me splurging 6749119-051101_1729[00].jpg (49 downloads) Last edited by sixpackgut; 07/27/11 02:54 PM. Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: WHY [Re: Labratt] #1040922 07/27/11 12:00 PM 07/27/11 12:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Mr. Yuck...I totally disagree with you on the notion that a carb can't be bought used, "screwed-up"!!! I've seen more than a few that were SCREWED-UP BIG TIME! I must have good luck. I've bought at least 3 old 750DP's tore them down, rebuilt them and they all worked very well. You can't expect to buy a used carb and not have to mess w/ it.

Re: WHY [Re: shoebox] #1040923 07/27/11 12:50 PM 07/27/11 12:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 892 Illinois StrkrDart69 super stock
StrkrDart69 super stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 892 Illinois	Quote: My car is a super budget car. One income household, new baby, I need To save wherever I can. 1k dollar stealth heads saved me 600-700 Over eddys. In the end it's the same performance. These heads Are proven. My parts choices are appropriate for my goals. If I were to Have a Chinese part take me down I'm not going to tell you! Sorry I don't make as much money as you... Forgive me for wanting to get My car running in this lifetime.... I'm not going to wait 8 yrs to drive My dart How come if your car has $50k in it, those peolpe look down on the guy that can only spend $20k on their car. And the $20k guy laughs at the guy that can only spend $10k. You build what you can afford. Hopefully you run the car at the level it was built for. You should never worry about what somebody else buys or does to his car. Just be happy with what you can do to yours. If I, or anybody else wants to buy a cheap or lessor part than one your deep pockets can afford, its none of your dam buisness.

Re: WHY [Re: StrkrDart69] #1040924 07/27/11 01:23 PM 07/27/11 01:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 808 mckinney texas S shoebox super stock
shoebox super stock S Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 808 mckinney texas	Amen 74 dart sport 440 www.Csucarbs.com

Re: WHY [Re: StrkrDart69] #1040925 07/27/11 01:30 PM 07/27/11 01:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl D d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader?
d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader? D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl	build to your budget mopar fans i too get used heads, used intakes,carbs, but i would not by used rods, pistons,crankshaft,unless first checked out.heck stock steel crank 340 or 440 stock rods stock heads open up valves do the port work yourself slap a good aluminum intake a good camshaft and your ready to go. fast class cars get low 11' high 10 and there is alot of limitations

Re: WHY [Re: StrkrDart69] #1040926 07/27/11 01:32 PM 07/27/11 01:32 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: My car is a super budget car. One income household, new baby, I need To save wherever I can. 1k dollar stealth heads saved me 600-700 Over eddys. In the end it's the same performance. These heads Are proven. My parts choices are appropriate for my goals. If I were to Have a Chinese part take me down I'm not going to tell you! Sorry I don't make as much money as you... Forgive me for wanting to get My car running in this lifetime.... I'm not going to wait 8 yrs to drive My dart How come if your car has $50k in it, those peolpe look down on the guy that can only spend $20k on their car. And the $20k guy laughs at the guy that can only spend $10k. You build what you can afford. Hopefully you run the car at the level it was built for. You should never worry about what somebody else buys or does to his car. Just be happy with what you can do to yours. If I, or anybody else wants to buy a cheap or lessor part than one your deep pockets can afford, its none of your dam buisness. Part of the problem is, if that cheapo part did cause a failure the guy/guys are to embarrassed to man up and say it broke... it would maybe help another person if they knew

Re: WHY [Re: shoebox] #1040927 07/27/11 01:39 PM 07/27/11 01:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill D dennismopar73 top fuel
dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	yes not everyone can afford the big high end stuff all the time, but i have sen good ol american stuff blow up as much as anything, so i go back to my statement,, " youre motor is only as good as the builder who built it,, and the machinest who did the machine work" these are performance engines, noone can tell if or when the break, blow up, or run as requested, words are ,, ,," it should,, it could or it might" if it does have a great time,

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