brake issues,wilwood kit
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07/13/11 04:19 PM
07/13/11 04:19 PM
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imfixinmopars426
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installed a wilwood front disc kit on a 64 plymouth,and used the wilwood master,7/8",plus a wil-rear adj prop valve. and useing the stock mopar 11" rear drums. well....after bench bleeding,several manual bleeds,and a few pressure bleeds...no pedal. the pedal ratio is 6.2,and am using the wil adapter for the manual single master,and using the mopar manual pedal hole also...pretty straightforward...i thought. pump a few times and pedal is ok? no fade,but let up..and it goes right to the floor,and take 5-10 pumps to get it 2" off floor at best. what am i doing wrong? yes i bleed both sides of the caliper,cant find the issue...is the master too small? its all selected kit,by a wilwood tech,so it should be right?..and help would be great,thanks,mike
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Re: brake issues,wilwood kit
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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07/13/11 09:25 PM
07/13/11 09:25 PM
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Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska
RapidRobert
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Lincoln Nebraska
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Air... Bench bleed (on the car) the master then (1) half at a time. Many ways to bleed the corners but I like a helper & I hand push the pedal down & hold it till he tells me he's closed the bleeder and I use a block of wood under the pedal so the cups do not go past their normal wear area which could hasten their demise, kinda picky but thats me
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Re: brake issues,wilwood kit
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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07/13/11 10:46 PM
07/13/11 10:46 PM
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Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida
Performance Only
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is the pushrod adjusted properly? does it let the master cylinder plunger return all the way? how much play in it before it pushes the plunger. also, hows the adjustment on the rear brakes?
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Re: brake issues,wilwood kit
[Re: Performance Only]
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07/14/11 07:15 AM
07/14/11 07:15 AM
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imfixinmopars426
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is the pushrod adjusted properly? does it let the master cylinder plunger return all the way? how much play in it before it pushes the plunger. also, hows the adjustment on the rear brakes?
i believe the pushrod is adj good. plenty of stroke,and its about at the end of the rod w/ about 2.5 amount of threads in the heim joint. not bottoming out the master,and coming all the way to the end of stroke,when pedal is released. play is ~1" or so,before rod is pushed/being worked.i think freeplay is correct. rear brakes are tightened to the point of a little drag is on the turning of the wheel. yes i think its still got air in the system,but i cant figure where????????? great ideas,but i need more...wilwood says it should work great. i do too,if air was all out of system. im going to pressure bleed the crap out of it this am,and see. ..thanks,guys..
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Re: brake issues,wilwood kit
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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07/14/11 08:09 AM
07/14/11 08:09 AM
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Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio
Challenger 1
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im going to pressure bleed the crap out of it this am,and see. ..thanks,guys..
What kind of bleeder are you using? Plastic reservoir on the MC?
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Re: brake issues,wilwood kit
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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07/14/11 01:25 PM
07/14/11 01:25 PM
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Posts: 693 Dunnellon, FL
longram60
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Though not Wilwood's, when I installed a Strange rear disc conversion, my calipers had top and bottom bleeders. I could not get all the air out until I removed the caliper (with line attached), turned it upside down and bled the other bleeder (with it now pointed up).
1979 AMC Spirit, NHRA Q/SA
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