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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
#103105
08/14/08 07:09 PM
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I don't understand, when did the DOT become Super Cops. Just because they write you a ticket doesn't mean you are guilty off anything. It will be a cold day in Helina Montana when I take a tax return to court to prove that I do or don't write off anything. It is the states job to prove their case.
Over the years I have fought every ticket and haven't lost yet. Nothing better than hearing the judge chew out a cop for writing a stupid ticket. Remember when a cop is sitting in court they are not doing their real job. A great waste of time.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
#103106
08/14/08 07:24 PM
08/14/08 07:24 PM
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No, I disagree (like that matters anymore ) as long as you register it under the magical 10K limit, and you never load it over 10K, you bypass many, but not all of the issues so far brought up, although declaring weight on a trailer is not always required, the GCVW on your truck should represent that under 10K trailer self imposed limit, make sense?
if it makes any difference my trailer is tagged with Vermont 5 year Temp tags and the registration does not have any weight classification
Don't think that matters from the way I understand PA law. Does your trailer have a GVW plate on it? I know my open does and I bet thats what they go by. Mine isn't registered here in PA by it weight either. My guess is they go by axles, because my GF's single axle boat trailer is $6, and the double axle open car trailer is $12.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Prostock]
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08/14/08 07:40 PM
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No, I disagree (like that matters anymore ) as long as you register it under the magical 10K limit, and you never load it over 10K, you bypass many, but not all of the issues so far brought up, although declaring weight on a trailer is not always required, the GCVW on your truck should represent that under 10K trailer self imposed limit, make sense?
if it makes any difference my trailer is tagged with Vermont 5 year Temp tags and the registration does not have any weight classification
Don't think that matters from the way I understand PA law. Does your trailer have a GVW plate on it? I know my open does and I bet thats what they go by. Mine isn't registered here in PA by it weight either. My guess is they go by axles, because my GF's single axle boat trailer is $6, and the double axle open car trailer is $12.
Boy you guys have it cheap in PA to plate a trailor. My Non com. 1500# dual axel trailor cost $42.00 for plates here in Stark count, Canton, Ohio. mike
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Sport440]
#103108
08/14/08 07:50 PM
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No, I disagree (like that matters anymore ) as long as you register it under the magical 10K limit, and you never load it over 10K, you bypass many, but not all of the issues so far brought up, although declaring weight on a trailer is not always required, the GCVW on your truck should represent that under 10K trailer self imposed limit, make sense?
if it makes any difference my trailer is tagged with Vermont 5 year Temp tags and the registration does not have any weight classification
Don't think that matters from the way I understand PA law. Does your trailer have a GVW plate on it? I know my open does and I bet thats what they go by. Mine isn't registered here in PA by it weight either. My guess is they go by axles, because my GF's single axle boat trailer is $6, and the double axle open car trailer is $12.
Boy you guys have it cheap in PA to plate a trailor. My Non com. 1500# dual axel trailor cost $42.00 for plates here in Stark count, Canton, Ohio. mike
How much do you pay a year for your annual safety and emissions inspection?
Zilch.
Only saving grace is my diesel is emissions exempt.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: rickstershemi]
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08/14/08 08:48 PM
08/14/08 08:48 PM
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Here in Michigan we buy a permanent plate, good till you sell the trailer. If you buy another trailer you have to buy another permanent plate. Truck plates are based on dollar value. I have no idea how you guys can change the GVW on a trailer or truck 
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#103111
08/14/08 08:55 PM
08/14/08 08:55 PM
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Here in Michigan we buy a permanent plate, good
till you sell the trailer. If you buy another trailer
you have to buy another permanent plate. Truck
plates are based on dollar value. I have no idea
how you guys can change the GVW on a trailer or
truck
Truck plates here are by weight. They have different class ranges. My 3/4 ton is a class 3 and its $152 a year to register it. I have a sticker on my windshield that has a 3 on it to show that.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: rickstershemi]
#103113
08/14/08 09:24 PM
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My 50' trailer costs $79.00 annual for a tag and doesn't have any weight on the registration 
Rickster
Ours are 20 bucks a year.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: MoparforLife]
#103114
08/14/08 10:07 PM
08/14/08 10:07 PM
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My 50' trailer costs $79.00 annual for a tag and doesn't have any weight on the registration
Rickster
Ours are 20 bucks a year.
Here we have basicly 2 sizes of trailers(private)
small and larger, mines the larger and I pay $100
for the permenate plate. the small is $75
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: PlumCrazyCharger]
#103116
08/14/08 10:13 PM
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You guys are lucky. For my 40' trailer it costs $278 per year and for my dually $178 per year!
If you saw what it costs to legally register a truck that can tow a 40 foot trailer, you wouldn't think we were so lucky.
Once you hit that 10,001lb and up weight on the trailer and have to register the truck's weight to cover the truck AND trailer the trucks price goes through the roof.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: PlumCrazyCharger]
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08/14/08 10:13 PM
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You guys are lucky. For my 40' trailer it costs $278 per year and for my dually $178 per year!
My duallie cost me $45 yearly based on what I payed
for it  but I bought it at a auction for CHEAP
but I also had to work on it and had it re-registered
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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08/14/08 10:17 PM
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Mike; The 1500# GVW weight on my trailers registration indicates the weight of the trailer only and not how much in can carry.
On my truck itself the Factory GCWR can be differ from 9000# to 13500# depending on the axel gear and engine combo.
With my 5.4 engine, same truck, same axel it can differ from 10000# to 13500# based on the gear only. Lie about your gear or change the gear or "door sticker" I guess you could change your Factory GCWR but not your GVW. mike
Last edited by Sport440; 08/14/08 10:25 PM.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Sport440]
#103121
08/14/08 10:23 PM
08/14/08 10:23 PM
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Mike; The 1500# GVW weight on my trailors registration indicates the weight of the trailor only and not how much in can carry.
On my truck itself the Factory GCWR can be differ from 9000# to 13500# depending on the axel gear and engine combo.
With my 5.4 engine, same truck, same axel it can differ from 10000# to 13500# based on the gear only. Lie about your gear or change the gear or "door sticker" I guess you could change your Factory GCWR but not your GVW. mike
My truck is a 95 Dodge diesel duallie with the biggest
tires, 6 speed stick and 4.10 gears. I will have
to look at the door sticker to see what it says
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#103122
08/14/08 10:24 PM
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My 50' trailer costs $79.00 annual for a tag and doesn't have any weight on the registration
Rickster
Ours are 20 bucks a year.
Here we have basicly 2 sizes of trailers(private)
small and larger, mines the larger and I pay $100
for the permenate plate. the small is $75
not entirely tre mr p a plate can go as high as 300 depends on the weight of the trailer
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: ro23car]
#103124
08/14/08 10:34 PM
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My 50' trailer costs $79.00 annual for a tag and doesn't have any weight on the registration
Rickster
Ours are 20 bucks a year.
Here we have basicly 2 sizes of trailers(private)
small and larger, mines the larger and I pay $100
for the permenate plate. the small is $75
not entirely tre mr p a plate can go as high as 300 depends on the weight of the trailer
I've never seen anyone that paided 300, my trailer
is 43' and weighs 6600# empty, but I'll take your
word on it
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already have your dot stuff in order.The system of commercial licencing and dot #'s is really a good thing for the public. 
