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OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS #1027094 07/06/11 12:44 AM 07/06/11 12:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Will the new prostock cars be worth the money that the old prostock cars are bringing in 20-30 yrs??

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1027095 07/06/11 01:47 AM 07/06/11 01:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	that's hard one to answer. Early car builders will always be know for the creation of some of the most important innovations in our sport. The debut of the Lenco is a good example as some of the ingenuity in headwork.Cars and driver alike will never reach the hero worship of Sox and Martin, Bill Jenkins,Dick Landy Motown Missile,Don Carlton etc. The early cars are my choice. If the later cars do bring a higher dollar I feel it will be based on one major itgem. Those cars will be kept together in one piece and in much better condition than the early cars ever where.At the time of their sale the car will be 98% original. Far from the rebodied / restored /recreated early cars . Some of which are lucky to have 20% of the original sheet metal and none of the suspension or drivline. I know of a few that are said to have no credible validation at all. home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: HEMIFRED] #1027096 07/06/11 02:04 AM 07/06/11 02:04 AM
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MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Thanks Fred.....You have got to be one of the luckiest guys in the world to be the owner of one of the most desireable prostock cars in the world!!!! I was just thinking that I would LOVE to owner the original Wayne County Dodge Daytona driven by Darrell Alderman but I know that will be IMPOSSIBLE for me but I can dream!!!!!

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1027097 07/06/11 03:06 AM 07/06/11 03:06 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I dont think so. Maybe its just me but early Pro Stocks were close to a production car in some ways and were actually rear wheel drive cars. And you could actually tell what kind of cars they were and they are from the muscle car era. Pro Stock cars of today all look the same and none of them even come with a V8 from the factory. To me modern Pro Stock cars are like generic race cars. Not knocking them thats just the way I see it and I dont think they will ever have the value of the early Pro Stock cars. Ron

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1027098 07/06/11 03:13 AM 07/06/11 03:13 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	What could be better than to buy your drag racing hero's car. We became pretty close friends and spoke nearly daily for the few years before he passed. To race it has been a dream but going to the old S&M shop for pictures last year was exciting. Then on my next trip down I went Piedmont.That was S&M's test and home track. I got to make a pass in my ride down the same black strip of asphalt in the very same car as the great Ronnie Sox. I AM NOT SURE IF IT GETS ANY BETTER THAN THAT 6716140-87760017a.jpg (176 downloads) home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: HEMIFRED] #1027099 07/06/11 03:15 AM 07/06/11 03:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Z 6716142-50.jpg (183 downloads) home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: HEMIFRED] #1027100 07/06/11 06:27 AM 07/06/11 06:27 AM
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nz383man mopar Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 520 New Zealand	"I AM NOT SURE IF IT GETS ANY BETTER THAN THAT"

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: 383man] #1027101 07/06/11 09:34 AM 07/06/11 09:34 AM
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Get-X mopar G Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 614 Michigan	Quote: I dont think so. Maybe its just me but early Pro Stocks were close to a production car in some ways and were actually rear wheel drive cars. And you could actually tell what kind of cars they were and they are from the muscle car era. Pro Stock cars of today all look the same and none of them even come with a V8 from the factory. To me modern Pro Stock cars are like generic race cars. Not knocking them thats just the way I see it and I dont think they will ever have the value of the early Pro Stock cars. Ron Today's P/S cars will never be held in the same light as the "Muscle Car" era rides. They were the first of the Prostocks, and actually were a production car modified for racing. The new Prostocks are all generic tube chassis's with a skin of carbon fiber and sheet metal. Also, as Fred mentioned the innovations and the characters that drove the cars were unique to that era and I don't see that happening again. '65 Belvedere '68 GTX '57 Dodge pickup

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1027102 07/06/11 09:35 AM 07/06/11 09:35 AM
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hemicop super stock H Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az.	Quote: Will the new prostock cars be worth the money that the old prostock cars are bringing in 20-30 yrs?? I don't thinkk so.Present day P/S cars are a compilation of pieces, often nowhere near "stock" that almost anyone can buy & recreate. They're pretty much "cookie cutter" cars now, nothing really seperating them from one another, except maybe the engine. The old P/S cars were musclecars to begin with, had their builders ideas in them, rather than a set formula, so there was alot of creativity in them that you just don't see now.......

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: hemicop] #1027103 07/06/11 10:14 AM 07/06/11 10:14 AM
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Frito top fuel F Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,607 KYbywayof WV	Gone are the days when a local guy could run pro stock out of his garage. BUT, those were good times with good racing. One of my local favs. 6716306-GordenCollett.jpg (136 downloads)

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: Frito] #1027104 07/06/11 11:57 AM 07/06/11 11:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,508 A collage of whims	The newer cars don't have the nostalgia or the personality if you will of the older cars; same thing for old NASCAR, Indy & TransAm cars. The mix of historical significance, uniqueness, and nostalgia is what drives old car values. Probably the only exception to that would be F1 cars, only because of their extreme high-tech nature. Simple test: would you rather have Hemifred's S&M car or Greg Anderson's PS car? Test #2: Grown men will nearly shed tears watching the old TF cars push off & fire at a Cacklefest; no such reaction at an NHRA event. Test #3: I'm actually more excited to restore my Duster to its original configuration (Ed Hamburger's SS/IA car) than to leave it as the bracket car it's been for about 20 years.

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: topside] #1027105 07/06/11 12:37 PM 07/06/11 12:37 PM
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StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	A real P/S car 6716497-18C.jpg (233 downloads)

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: StewartP] #1027106 07/06/11 12:37 PM 07/06/11 12:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida S StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy
StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	2 6716498-20C.jpg (184 downloads)

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: StewartP] #1027107 07/06/11 12:49 PM 07/06/11 12:49 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	JMO... I'll take a currant PS car over the old stuff... they're stronger, safer and quicker than the old day stuff, yes the old cars had the appeal... but I like different

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: HEMIFRED] #1027108 07/06/11 05:52 PM 07/06/11 05:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Quote: What could be better than to buy your drag racing hero's car. We became pretty close friends and spoke nearly daily for the few years before he passed. To race it has been a dream but going to the old S&M shop for pictures last year was exciting. Then on my next trip down I went Piedmont.That was S&M's test and home track. I got to make a pass in my ride down the same black strip of asphalt in the very same car as the great Ronnie Sox. I AM NOT SURE IF IT GETS ANY BETTER THAN THAT Fred,Your right...NOTHING BETTER!!!!! I met Ronnie a few yrs back at Cecil County. I believe he was driving a Ford Fairlane Pro-Mod type car in the Sox and Martin colors. He was a GREAT guy and took the time too talk with me. I wish I had taken a pic of us together.

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1027109 07/06/11 05:54 PM 07/06/11 05:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER OP master
MIKES_DUSTER OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Hey Stewart.....Was that your challenger?? It is the same car,just with hood straps..right?? Can you tell me about the car??

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #1027110 07/06/11 06:03 PM 07/06/11 06:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	IMHO...No way!! The current cars are basically the same regardless of make..they have the same wheelbase,same front overhang,and pretty much the same chassis.The engines are close to each other also. What I HATE abount Pro Stock??...the NOSE of the car tripping the lights!!The car stages with the front wheels,but the nose trips the beams on the top end.Bogus!! The cars of the past had MORE ingenuity,and brand loyalty was more apparant.I think you worked harder and smarter in the older days,todays cars..punch in a laptop and download data. No sir,I don't like it. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: Chris2581] #1027111 07/06/11 06:09 PM 07/06/11 06:09 PM
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RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	only if there is a vintage race class they could run. I really doubt that will happen though.

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: Chris2581] #1027112 07/06/11 06:31 PM 07/06/11 06:31 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	todays cars..punch in a laptop and download data. No sir,I don't like it. More data only makes you smarter.... no reason to guess at it

Re: OLD PROSTOCK CARS VS NEW PROSTOCK CARS [Re: RodStRace] #1027113 07/06/11 06:33 PM 07/06/11 06:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 758 Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh... 1 1974 474 Duster super stock
1974 474 Duster super stock 1 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 758 Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh...	Fred, I get the line by the way!! Love that pic w/the shop in the backround. I have a ton of old Super Stock magazines and such. I even have the original built for the 71 Duster and the 71 Road Runner od theres. Two kick butt issues. Hope to get to hang ou some in Norwalk this year. See ya, Ken Michalik 6717000-09Norwalk.jpg (83 downloads)

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