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Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: dOc !] #1025421 07/04/11 08:33 PM 07/04/11 08:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 513 HOUSTON,TEXAS F FIREGUY12 mopar
FIREGUY12 mopar F Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 513 HOUSTON,TEXAS	We replaced everythng in the trans. the only thing left was the case. And if you do a little internet research you will find some chrysler transmission years ago had problems with the cases. Internal leaks.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: FIREGUY12] #1025422 07/04/11 08:36 PM 07/04/11 08:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,547 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,547 Florida STAYcation	Quote: We replaced everythng in the trans. the only thing left was the case. And if you do a little internet research you will find some chrysler transmission years ago had problems with the cases. Internal leaks. Where was the leak ? ... crack, porus ...???

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: 408strokerdart] #1025423 07/04/11 10:20 PM 07/04/11 10:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,628 Columbus, Ohio wheelsup68dart OP master
wheelsup68dart OP master Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,628 Columbus, Ohio	Quote: Quote: well here in Ohio we have 15 tracks.. really not sure of how many? but I got 5 with in 1.5 hr. You can race Fri-sat-sun. most tracks around here do 3 times runs and takes 7-8 rd to win. but we do all the mopars races and they are 3 day races with 2-3 times runs and 7-8 rds to win a day..you can rack up some runs real quick..and we have wed-Thu test and tune at most tracks also. entry fees 40-60 bucks .plus fuel per race..so 300 bucks you can put 25-30 runs a weekend on your car He is also entering multiple classes per day. Three classes on Saturday Mopar events (10.0, Pro & Super Pro), two classes on Sunday (Pro & Super Pro) = alot of passes with elevated trans temps. To answer your question Lonnie, I have my old 727 race converter here that you are welcome to use. Been trying to sell it for months with no success, it is fresh and was working perfectly. Might be a little more stall than you need though. Was going 5900 behind mine. Let me know, would like to sell it but not going to give it away to anyone else. Hey Bro, what is the input on that converter? It is a turbo 400 input right?

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: wheelsup68dart] #1025424 07/04/11 10:51 PM 07/04/11 10:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,354 Aurora, Oh. M max_maniac master
max_maniac master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,354 Aurora, Oh.	I have seen cars much heavier and quicker run with a 904 and no troubles. Not sure what is causing your issues Lonnie but if I was you I would be looking for another builder Russ

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: wheelsup68dart] #1025425 07/04/11 11:24 PM 07/04/11 11:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	Quote: Quote: Quote: well here in Ohio we have 15 tracks.. really not sure of how many? but I got 5 with in 1.5 hr. You can race Fri-sat-sun. most tracks around here do 3 times runs and takes 7-8 rd to win. but we do all the mopars races and they are 3 day races with 2-3 times runs and 7-8 rds to win a day..you can rack up some runs real quick..and we have wed-Thu test and tune at most tracks also. entry fees 40-60 bucks .plus fuel per race..so 300 bucks you can put 25-30 runs a weekend on your car He is also entering multiple classes per day. Three classes on Saturday Mopar events (10.0, Pro & Super Pro), two classes on Sunday (Pro & Super Pro) = alot of passes with elevated trans temps. To answer your question Lonnie, I have my old 727 race converter here that you are welcome to use. Been trying to sell it for months with no success, it is fresh and was working perfectly. Might be a little more stall than you need though. Was going 5900 behind mine. Let me know, would like to sell it but not going to give it away to anyone else. Hey Bro, what is the input on that converter? It is a turbo 400 input right? Stock 727.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: 408strokerdart] #1025426 07/04/11 11:29 PM 07/04/11 11:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	I do think a 904 would work fine at your power level, but for the purpose of your car a glide will be the best in the long run. I think you need to fix what you have to get you thru till next year until you can gather funds to change to a glide. Wish you would have kept the glide parts you had before and stayed with it. Let me know what I can do....

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: 408strokerdart] #1025427 07/04/11 11:33 PM 07/04/11 11:33 PM
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Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,720 in a cattle trailer down by th...	You can buy cases here, they are really reasonable. https://www.wittrans.com/default.aspx "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: 408strokerdart] #1025428 07/04/11 11:34 PM 07/04/11 11:34 PM
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fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Brian i have his sollution in my garage

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: fishy340] #1025429 07/05/11 12:29 AM 07/05/11 12:29 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	Quote: Brian i have his sollution in my garage I have his solution in my shop also, but that solution is going back in my car this week.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: 408strokerdart] #1025430 07/05/11 01:19 PM 07/05/11 01:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 694 Michigan S Super Scamp mopar
Super Scamp mopar S Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 694 Michigan	Quote: Quote: Brian i have his sollution in my garage I have his solution Brian just race the truck and take the time to install the Glide.. Remember it's only $$$$ while the car is getting the improvements it's been needing since the the little bump the wall thing. 6714797-SuperScamp013.JPG (14 downloads) Just One Man's Opinion Mopar Mafia Racing

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: Super Scamp] #1025431 07/05/11 03:36 PM 07/05/11 03:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 206 indy E eds dart enthusiast
eds dart enthusiast E Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 206 indy	Hey Lonnie Ed here, pitted next to you at Muncie this weekend. I,ll second the case leak deal. Buddy of mine is tranny guy at local shop, did a 84 4wd Blazer 3 times. it was smoked when it was towed in 3 rebuilds new valve body, wat cured it was a new case. couldn,t see anything wrong with it dont know if it went porous or was cracked but it does happen and is cheap enough to try. sounds like you got good parts in it that should survive.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: eds dart] #1025432 07/05/11 05:31 PM 07/05/11 05:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 306 Mesa, AZ cagebob1 enthusiast
cagebob1 enthusiast Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 306 Mesa, AZ	I'll second the motion to replace the case. Many years ago, I had a customer's race car trans suddenly refuse to shift into high gear at the track. After 3 failed rebuilds and replaceing everything but the case, the only other option was the case. Transfered all of the internals into a different case and the problem was gone! The offending case was examined and couldn't see anything wrong with a visual inspection. Results speak for themselves.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: eds dart] #1025433 07/05/11 05:34 PM 07/05/11 05:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	Quote: Hey Lonnie Ed here, pitted next to you at Muncie this weekend. I,ll second the case leak deal. Buddy of mine is tranny guy at local shop, did a 84 4wd Blazer 3 times. it was smoked when it was towed in 3 rebuilds new valve body, wat cured it was a new case. couldn,t see anything wrong with it dont know if it went porous or was cracked but it does happen and is cheap enough to try. sounds like you got good parts in it that should survive. I second this as your best low buck way to get thru the rest of the season....then go to the glide.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: 408strokerdart] #1025434 07/05/11 06:00 PM 07/05/11 06:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 350 Sidney,Ohio C challenger1320 enthusiast
challenger1320 enthusiast C Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 350 Sidney,Ohio	Lonnie you have a PM

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: cagebob1] #1025435 07/05/11 07:06 PM 07/05/11 07:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN CRT master
CRT master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN	Quote: I'll second the motion to replace the case. Many years ago, I had a customer's race car trans suddenly refuse to shift into high gear at the track. After 3 failed rebuilds and replaceing everything but the case, the only other option was the case. Transfered all of the internals into a different case and the problem was gone! The offending case was examined and couldn't see anything wrong with a visual inspection. Results speak for themselves. Was it a 904 you where working on ? 6715299-valvebody004.jpg (20 downloads) Last edited by CRT; 07/05/11 07:06 PM.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: CRT] #1025436 07/05/11 07:19 PM 07/05/11 07:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,720 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,720 in a cattle trailer down by th...	Quote: Quote: I'll second the motion to replace the case. Many years ago, I had a customer's race car trans suddenly refuse to shift into high gear at the track. After 3 failed rebuilds and replaceing everything but the case, the only other option was the case. Transfered all of the internals into a different case and the problem was gone! The offending case was examined and couldn't see anything wrong with a visual inspection. Results speak for themselves. Was it a 904 you where working on ? John, what is the exact mismatch here, different year parts or what? "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: Guitar Jones] #1025437 07/05/11 08:15 PM 07/05/11 08:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN CRT master
CRT master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN	Yes, on 904s only, and this does not apply to Lonnies trans, you can not use a early 4 screw top non PTK valve body on some late model case. Here is a pic of that odd ball 904 case.. 6715417-valvebody007.jpg (55 downloads)

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: CRT] #1025438 07/05/11 08:19 PM 07/05/11 08:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN CRT master
CRT master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,771 Cedar Lake IN	Also if the VB is stock, reverse manual, forward manual or trans brake, made from any builder, you can have this issue if the VB is early and the case is late. Make sure when installing a 904 valve body that the casting and the case match.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: CRT] #1025439 07/05/11 08:48 PM 07/05/11 08:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,720 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,720 in a cattle trailer down by th...	OK I get it, I just looked at the only stripped spare case I have and it looks like the one pictured. Thanks for that, I never had occasion to run into that before. "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: I've had it. My car is killing me (904) drama [Re: Guitar Jones] #1025440 07/05/11 09:20 PM 07/05/11 09:20 PM
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LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,151 Melbourne , Australia	Where can I find information on the case numbers and the VB casting numbers? Alan Jones

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