Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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Enough rebel and boycott will bring new investors and engineers back to the USA. It may be painful for a while, but look at the long term. Lots of trickery with the printing on boxes.
Same thing when you call customer service and get someone in India or the Philipines,you have to ASK TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE IN THE USA!!!They HAVE to transfer you.If we ALL do this,it helps to bring the jobs back to the USA!
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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yea, it's so hard to buy USA anymore, and when you finally do find something that's USA made...it's 2-3 times the cost. We the consumers keep saying "we need to buy American and support our own economy" but why can't the American producers say "gee, what can we do to make it less painful on the wallets of the American people?"
I mean...seriously...OK, so they use a jig to make collectors, and they tig weld them instead of mig weld them. who cares what kind of weld is on it. it's exhaust pipe, not a roll cage thats protecting your noggin! if I can buy the materials to make a collector for about $50, and weld them together in about 2 hours WITHOUT getting the "discount" for buying so much material at one time, plus the use of a jig to make it faster and easier without having to double ensure squareness... why the nearly $400 price tag?
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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yea, it's so hard to buy USA anymore, and when you finally do find something that's USA made...it's 2-3 times the cost. We the consumers keep saying "we need to buy American and support our own economy" but why can't the American producers say "gee, what can we do to make it less painful on the wallets of the American people?"
I mean...seriously...OK, so they use a jig to make collectors, and they tig weld them instead of mig weld them. who cares what kind of weld is on it. it's exhaust pipe, not a roll cage thats protecting your noggin! if I can buy the materials to make a collector for about $50, and weld them together in about 2 hours WITHOUT getting the "discount" for buying so much material at one time, plus the use of a jig to make it faster and easier without having to double ensure squareness... why the nearly $400 price tag?
didn't you just answer your own question? go build or lease a building, get the lights, water and phone hooked up, hire an employee or two or three and pay them a decent wage, supply them some uniforms, pay for the materials, buy the equipment, jigs, dies and tools required, and by the way, don't forget to pay your business taxes, especially the county and state for all that equipment you just bought. pay for your advertising to let people know you are in business. oops, better hire someone for quality control while your at it. i've left out a lot but you get the idea. Voila, you now have a merge collector. don't forget to price it cheap enough so the retailer can make a few bucks too. now how much did that collector cost to build ???
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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I would like to know how many that say buy American own a foreign car. Saying put together in America won't cut it. The profits go overseas and they pay their taxes overseas. I've never owned a foreign car and never will.
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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how do you know the dynatech ones aren't made in the USA? the cheap price?
I bought some summit small block headers 2 years ago...lowest price, made in the USA by flowtech. similar Hookers, BTW are made in mexico and are $50 more....
summit's mandrel bent exhausts are all made in MN by Heartthrob. (A body kits are ~$200)
I buy american if possible.
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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didn't you just answer your own question? go build or lease a building, get the lights, water and phone hooked up, hire an employee or two or three and pay them a decent wage, supply them some uniforms, pay for the materials, buy the equipment, jigs, dies and tools required, and by the way, don't forget to pay your business taxes, especially the county and state for all that equipment you just bought. pay for your advertising to let people know you are in business. oops, better hire someone for quality control while your at it. i've left out a lot but you get the idea. Voila, you now have a merge collector. don't forget to price it cheap enough so the retailer can make a few bucks too. now how much did that collector cost to build ???
You forgot EPA, OSHA and other intrusive government regulations.
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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I buy what is available and meets my criteria. I dont care where it comes from. In fact, I dont even look.
I've had my share of both Chinese and US made JUNK. I support anyone who makes what I need.
brilliant, remember that when the chinese flag raises over the USA.
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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didn't you just answer your own question? go build or lease a building, get the lights, water and phone hooked up, hire an employee or two or three and pay them a decent wage, supply them some uniforms, pay for the materials, buy the equipment, jigs, dies and tools required, and by the way, don't forget to pay your business taxes, especially the county and state for all that equipment you just bought. pay for your advertising to let people know you are in business. oops, better hire someone for quality control while your at it. i've left out a lot but you get the idea. Voila, you now have a merge collector. don't forget to price it cheap enough so the retailer can make a few bucks too. now how much did that collector cost to build ???
You forgot EPA, OSHA and other intrusive government regulations.
there's that and even more, that's why i said i left a lot out. unless you own and operate a small business with employee's, you would never understand the overhead that can be involved.
i'm not here to bash the foreign made parts, i just wanted to point out how the pricing can be so different. our businesses in the USA are not government subsidized like in some countries.
and by the way, if you've bought what you belive to be a "junk" product or tool you believe was made in the U.S.A. please tell us what brand it was. all too often things are boxed to make you think the product is made here (i.e. Scat cranks and rods) but are actually made overseas.
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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how do you know the dynatech ones aren't made in the USA? the cheap price?
I bought some summit small block headers 2 years ago...lowest price, made in the USA by flowtech. similar Hookers, BTW are made in mexico and are $50 more....
summit's mandrel bent exhausts are all made in MN by Heartthrob. (A body kits are ~$200)
I buy american if possible.
i doubt the Flowtechs are made in USA anymore,Holley owns both Hooker and Flowtech and i have noticed that some Hooker mufflers previously made in mexico are now made in china and some things on them have changed alitle. Hookers U and J bends have changed in apperence aswell recently
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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I would like to know how many that say buy American own a foreign car. Saying put together in America won't cut it. The profits go overseas and they pay their taxes overseas. I've never owned a foreign car and never will.
I own 5 AMERICAN cars
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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how do you know the dynatech ones aren't made in the USA? the cheap price?
I bought some summit small block headers 2 years ago...lowest price, made in the USA by flowtech. similar Hookers, BTW are made in mexico and are $50 more....
summit's mandrel bent exhausts are all made in MN by Heartthrob. (A body kits are ~$200)
I buy american if possible.
I dont know for fact anymore BUT Dynotech use to be made here
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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I would like to know how many that say buy American own a foreign car. Saying put together in America won't cut it. The profits go overseas and they pay their taxes overseas. I've never owned a foreign car and never will.
I own 5 AMERICAN cars
But were they built in Canada or Mexico?
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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didn't you just answer your own question? go build or lease a building, get the lights, water and phone hooked up, hire an employee or two or three and pay them a decent wage, supply them some uniforms, pay for the materials, buy the equipment, jigs, dies and tools required, and by the way, don't forget to pay your business taxes, especially the county and state for all that equipment you just bought. pay for your advertising to let people know you are in business. oops, better hire someone for quality control while your at it. i've left out a lot but you get the idea. Voila, you now have a merge collector. don't forget to price it cheap enough so the retailer can make a few bucks too. now how much did that collector cost to build ???
Well said! My wife owns a small business and some customers come in and throw a fit because her prices are higher than walmart.
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Re: American or Chinese, what would you do???
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I would like to know how many that say buy American own a foreign car. Saying put together in America won't cut it. The profits go overseas and they pay their taxes overseas. I've never owned a foreign car and never will.
I own 5 AMERICAN cars
But were they built in Canada or Mexico?
doesn't matter it's the lessor of 2 evils. if the company is based here. I would still buy American vs a toyota even though some of them are built here. I try to buy American as much as possible. I do own some chines parts, and when I buy them I try get the ones which are machined here.
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