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Where to find cop car alt brackets #2602014
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I am in dire need to alternator brackets for my 65 Fury 2 door cop car as the car is almost done. It is a 60 amp Leece Neville cop car alternator and I think the parts are the same at least 63 - 65 (but Plymouth only in 65). I have good pics of the correct setup and most of the original part numbers.

I have tried some of the junkyards over the years and have thus far struck out. I have googled to no end and no real luck. I have the alternator and the idler pulleys as well as the wp and main pulleys.

Any suggestions who I should be contacting to see if they have any?

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Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: markz528] #2602022
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I have a set from a 69 383 cop car. Don't know if they are the same as 65.


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Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: moparmarks] #2602037
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Originally Posted By moparmarks
I have a set from a 69 383 cop car. Don't know if they are the same as 65.
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Unfortunately 65 is the last year for this style. Even Dodges and Chryslers got an updated Leece Neville alternator in 65.


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67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: markz528] #2602052
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Have you tried the usual early B body experts? Some of those guys might have some parts sitting on the shelf. Personally I've never seen that stuff and I've been digging early B body stuff out of wrecking yards for 30+ years. Wildcat might have a set or some of the other large wrecking yards. If push comes to shove it probably wouldn't be too hard to fabricate some brackets that look halfway close. The factory didn't spend a ton of money on alternator brackets back in the 60's. They are usually just heavy sheet metal that is bend or formed into shape.

Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: markz528] #2602078
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Andy - I forget the fellow’s name, but he’s from Georgia and an early b body only guy. He could not help.

I did find the alt idler bracket on google but it’s a spam. But it helps me as I now have a good picture to dimension that bracket from. I have detailed pics of the setup but it was installed so I don’t have all the dimensions and not all views. I have a buddy in Colorado that graciously has allowed me access to his car on a couple occasions so that I could document it. His was an original unmolested Highway patrol car when he got it. Almost a duplicate car to mine.

I am attempting a final all out search before I fire up the cnc. Still learning the cnc but pretty sure I can muddle through it. But it won’t be an easy task. Need to make the alt strap which will be 1/4 and the alt idler bracket, duplicate the significant cast bracket and another tricky support bracket. All the brackets I think will end up being 3/16 inch other than the alt strap.

I have the alternator and both pivot brackets for the alternator which helps a lot.

I also found that my water pump pulley is bent. Either I straighten it t or replace it. I found a nos one on google and will be calling on Monday. Got my fingers crossed, but the description does not match their description.


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67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
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Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: markz528] #2602080
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Have not tried wildcat. Will contact them.

Are there other early b body experts other than Jim Kramer? He didn’t have anything either.


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67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: markz528] #2602085
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Try Ted Stephens (Stephens Performance) or Tom Hergert (Rocket Restorations)

Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: markz528] #2602227
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Joe Suchy is the early B body expert that I see mentioned a lot. I've never talked to him and he doesn't appear to have a website, but he posts over on the For B Body only forum.

If you end up making some parts I wouldn't use a CNC milling machine. Just draw up the parts and have them cut on a laser. I make custom alternator brackets all the time from laser cut 0.188 thick steel. Fairly cheap and fast process. Here is a new low mount 90 amp alternator kit that I just built for my Duster.

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Originally Posted By AndyF
Joe Suchy is the early B body expert that I see mentioned a lot. I've never talked to him and he doesn't appear to have a website, but he posts over on the For B Body only forum.

If you end up making some parts I wouldn't use a CNC milling machine. Just draw up the parts and have them cut on a laser. I make custom alternator brackets all the time from laser cut 0.188 thick steel. Fairly cheap and fast process. Here is a new low mount 90 amp alternator kit that I just built for my Duster.


Joe Suchy is the one I was thinking of - I talked to him at the Indy swap meet. He could not help. I will call Stephens and Tom - thanks for those suggestions.

I was actually thinking of getting some of the brackets laser or water cut but not all are great candidates for cutting. The alt idler bracket in particular is a great candidate and I may do that, but I have to machine the main bracket anyway, and once I have it cadded its not that much more work to write the code and then I don't have to wait. Plus it forces me to get better at generating code. The support bracket has various angles so it will need to be made in several steps so that one is not a good candidate. Plus if I need to make changes I don't have to wait.

Is water cutting as good as laser cutting for this work?


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67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
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Re: Where to find cop car alt brackets [Re: markz528] #2602445
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Water jet works fine for cutting steel. It is just a little slower and the parts tend to rust if you don't get them cleaned off right away.

Ma Mopar did all those brackets from stamped and formed sheet metal. Cutting the material is easy but the forming can be difficult. Especially the 3D forming that they did. They must have had some good vendors back then who could build little stamping dies.

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Well I started on the first bracket this weekend. I ended up machining it - I was kind of designing some of it on the run so I did not have a good drawing to send out for water/laser cutting. Getting the actual design was more difficult than I thought it would be. Picture angles were really throwing me off. But now the other pieces will be referenced to this part. 3 more brackets to make.

Not perfect but I will take it.

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67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
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