Re: Engine Balance
[Re: elmor353]
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10/19/18 02:26 AM
10/19/18 02:26 AM
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RapidRobert
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I'm assuming (for now) that they both used the basic LY rod. With your cast crank & dampener & torque converter for it, all that is left is the pistons. Do some searching & see if you can find out the weights for 67 pistons & the later ones. 67 440 pistons had a lower deck height (iirc) cuz of the CC heads but I would search & if needed for this HF has a gram scale for $9.99 & it is just as accurate as my deceased buddys' high dollar scale. once we know the nominal weight difference then we can see if it is "close enough" or if too heavy the rod can be lightened tho weighing rods is more difficult cuz you gotta get it horizontle & there is a bit to that.
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Re: Engine Balance
[Re: Stanton]
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10/19/18 12:42 PM
10/19/18 12:42 PM
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For your purpose, slap it together and forget about it. That's what I would do. For a truck engine I wouldn't worry about it. I have pulled apart some old engines with a 1/4" thick layer of carbon stuck to the pistons. That must affect the balance too yet they don't shake apart to pieces. Don't forget the cast cranks take a different damper as well.
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Re: Engine Balance
[Re: elmor353]
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10/19/18 02:31 PM
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Cab_Burge
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Two things, why did the rod fail? The other is have you thought about repairing the hurt rod journal? If not, why not As far as using a externally balanced cast crank with a internally balance converter and crankshaft balancer why would you do that ? Years and years ago I put a 1971 440 six pack rod motor short block together for a friend, his wifes car, who had a 1968 Charger that he wanted to replace the stock motor with the later motor, he reuse his heads and so on including the 1968 balancer. That motor shook around 2300 RPM bad enough to be noticeable, it never failed though Are you feeling lucky NOT ME
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Re: Engine Balance
[Re: elmor353]
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10/19/18 03:56 PM
10/19/18 03:56 PM
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I rebuilt the motor in my Dart 30 years ago.Bored it .030 and replaced the pistons with Mopar Performance ones at the time,I didn't have it balanced.That motor has a vibration that starts 2200rpm and is there all the way up.Don't skip on that,you will regret it later and it will be very costly to re-do
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1969 Dodge Dart GTS 440 M-Code
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Re: Engine Balance
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10/19/18 09:48 PM
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Weigh one rod and piston of both types and go from there I use a 25 lbs. postal scale for heavy parts like that and a Haus triple beam 2500 gram scale for lighter parts that may weigh under 2500 grams. I saw a comment on here on a different post about Harbor Freight selling a small digital gram scale for $9.95 I'm not sure how heavy it will weigh but it would be better than nothing
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Re: Engine Balance
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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10/20/18 02:47 AM
10/20/18 02:47 AM
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RapidRobert
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11 lbs (5000 grams) $9.95 HF EDIT It was just as accurate as my buddys' very high dollar one. I'm sure it wouldn't have the longevity but I was (very) impressed.
Last edited by RapidRobert; 10/20/18 02:53 AM.
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