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Re: Shocks [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #2555553
09/27/18 02:36 PM
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The factory decided to change the length on the front segment of the rear leaf springs in 1964 from 20 inches to 22 inches, all the Super Stock springs I know of are 20 inches long on the front segment scope
The reason I'm mentioning this is if you have the shorter front half and did not use the special front hangers it will move the rear spring eye forward and make the rear shackle not be angled to the rear like stock was work scope
I think that the bouncing and poor 60 Ft. times are caused by the shackle being pull forward under hard acceleration which ends up pulling the back of the car down unloading the tires work shruggy
If this is the case you can change the front spring hangar or make a new rear one to get the angle better scope
Let us know what you find and decide to do thumbs


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Re: Shocks [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #2555558
09/27/18 02:46 PM
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64 dodge 3960lbs - 572 HEMI 30"x 9" Hoosier radials 20-22 lbs of air - caltracs with the split mono leaf spring - Rancho 9 way adjustable shocks 3 clicks from tight consistent 1.44 60' foots - 90/10's up front.

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Re: Shocks [Re: madscientist] #2555663
09/27/18 07:55 PM
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I can't think of a single reason to use SS springs and/or a pinion snubber. Ever. [/quote]
While thier window of application has shrunk over the decades, to say "not ever" doesn't make sense to me. They still work WITHIN LIMITS, and combined with good enough shocks, the only change in performance would be the ET gains from a lighter wallet.


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Re: Shocks [Re: gregsdart] #2555667
09/27/18 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By gregsdart


I can't think of a single reason to use SS springs and/or a pinion snubber. Ever.

While thier window of application has shrunk over the decades, to say "not ever" doesn't make sense to me. They still work WITHIN LIMITS, and combined with good enough shocks, the only change in performance would be the ET gains from a lighter wallet. [/quote]


Well said. I've many times "used what I had". Sure if you are buying parts not on hand then the choice might be different.
Doug

Re: Shocks [Re: dvw] #2555679
09/27/18 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By dvw
We've achieved low 1.5x 60 foot at 123mph with Rancho adjustables. They need to be set tight. Try about 15psi. I would think at 120mph you should be able to go low,1.60 high 1.50s. Make sure the shackle doesn't limit travel. You may need to be moved forward or made longer. Better yet switch to sliders. Make sure the shock is long enough so it doesn't limit travel. If it does add an extention to the mount. Shock angle at this stage of the game isn't really a factor. Go to you tube; "64 Dodge shock tuning"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZDXBXRC9Q
Doug


I went a 1.33 w/Rancho 90-10's ft and old 5-ways in the rear on #4........... beer


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Re: Shocks [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #2555700
09/27/18 09:22 PM
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Joplin, Missouri
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Thanks for everyone's help. This helps to get me headed in the right direction. DoubleD awesome ride!

Re: Shocks [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #2555810
09/28/18 01:52 AM
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I wore out a set of rancho 5 ways then went to viking da shocks all the around with the more aggressive valving in the rear.Still and forever tuning.... wrench with spit mono CTs.They have been consistent as I turn the power up.Adjustable boost is a wonderfull thing! smoke

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Re: Shocks [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #2556054
09/28/18 05:26 PM
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We had similar issues and went through Comp engineering shocks, Calvert's 5 ways - then 9 ways - AFCO Big gun D/A's and finally Menscer re-valved the AFCO's. Buying a good quality / rebuildable shock now, means you won't have to replace it when you step up (I really should listen to my own advice sometimes)




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9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
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Re: Shocks [Re: Tig] #2556078
09/28/18 08:01 PM
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The OP has a street car.

Re: Shocks [Re: AndyF] #2556186
09/29/18 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By AndyF
The OP has a street car.

Ahh....OK my bad, but that's how I started up


'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
Re: Shocks [Re: Tig] #2556230
09/29/18 12:03 PM
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Cool pic. And no kids your ricer won't do that! That's what I tell my son about his Saabaru.


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Re: Shocks [Re: AndyF] #2556271
09/29/18 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By AndyF
The OP has a street car.


Don't they all start as street cars! - I built mine for the street!

Re: Shocks [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2556625
09/30/18 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
If your front shocks are too short it will
have a tendency to unload the rear.. you would
like about 5" of travel on the fronts
wave

x 2; the amount of front suspension rise from the static ride height played a bigger part than I expected in getting my car to launch without unloading the rear tires after the hit.

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