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Re: Comp xe295hl in a 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2531573
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So, back the xe cam for a minute. I did google Comp xe cam issues and cant say I saw anything remarkable. Lets face it, you can google anything and find someone displeased about something and wanting to tell the world about it. I definitely see both sides here. One being that for a street engine not planning or needing to spin their engine above 6k, and also for someone who prefers low maintenance, a hydraulic grind can be a good choice. (Again, my xe284 grind seems to be doing exactly what its supposed to do). I also agree that a solid lifter cam can make more power and rpm much better and higher. And maintenance isnt a huge deal, other than the break in IMO.

Lots of great info exchanged here. Its awesome that we can ask a question and get thoughtful responses from (literally) engine gurus, and intelligent guys who have real world experience using these parts. I'm just a hobbyist, so class is in session for me. I guess my next question is, why hasnt someone come up with a better hydraulic lifter yet, or is that not a realistic possibility?


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Re: Comp xe295hl in a 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2531604
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There are probably some good lifters for Mopar big blocks out there. If you are really curious I'd suggest calling Gaterman Products and/or Morel and asking some questions. Brian at IMM has a lot of experience with hyd rollers in Mopar engines so he is another guy to call and talk to. He has a recipe for making it work.

Re: Comp xe295hl in a 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2531605
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my xe284 grind seems to be doing exactly what its supposed to do


You don’t really need anyone to explain to you the pros and cons of running an XE cam in your motor......... you already have one.

If you’re satisfied with the performance with it....... that’s all that matters.


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Re: Comp xe295hl in a 505 [Re: fast68plymouth] #2531718
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
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my xe284 grind seems to be doing exactly what its supposed to do


You don’t really need anyone to explain to you the pros and cons of running an XE cam in your motor......... you already have one.

If you’re satisfied with the performance with it....... that’s all that matters.


Yeah, but by doing what it's supposed to, still means it has typical hydraulic cam limitations. Not trying to be ungrateful for good advice and info, I just don't see the problem with the xe grind. Not in my experience at least.

My original question was inquiring about another cam that might make more power, so I can't say Im completely satisfied. I may end up keeping what I have for now, but I do enjoy planning the next move. Even if it takes a while to execute smile.


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Re: Comp xe295hl in a 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2531807
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Part of the “making more power with a bigger cam” scenario, is being able to take advantage of the extra duration by allowing the motor to peak at a higher rpm.

With a fast rate hyd cam, it may or may not play out that way.


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Re: Comp xe295hl in a 505 [Re: fast68plymouth] #2531818
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Part of the “making more power with a bigger cam” scenario, is being able to take advantage of the extra duration by allowing the motor to peak at a higher rpm.

With a fast rate hyd cam, it may or may not play out that way.


With that, there is logic in fast rate hydraulics for big cubic inch, lower rpm street applications, verses my 383 scenario.

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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Part of the “making more power with a bigger cam” scenario, is being able to take advantage of the extra duration by allowing the motor to peak at a higher rpm.

With a fast rate hyd cam, it may or may not play out that way.


With that, there is logic in fast rate hydraulics for big cubic inch, lower rpm street applications, verses my 383 scenario.


Just curious, what cam are you running in the sleeper Charger?


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I’m pretty sure it’s not a fast rate hydraulic 😉


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Re: Comp xe295hl in a 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2535738
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Tony, it's a solid roller. It has older school, smaller, milder lobes so I can get away with a 200/500 spring. I think the guy that sold it to me called it a "lollipop" cam. I think the numbers are similar to the Scott Brown solid you had in your exhaust manifold car.

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