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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: justinp61] #2525076
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Come on Dodge, how fast would this be if they made this at 3300 lbs and not 4300 lbs


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: dvw] #2525247
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rick rondys drag pack challenger weighs 3300 pounds with power windows

Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: justinp61] #2525262
07/22/18 11:27 AM
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I guess nobody realizes that they can't make the challenger much lighter, the Demon is a good example of that. If they added more aluminum and added some carbon fiber people would then [censored] about the price. There is loads of safety crap that is heavy and is not optional for a road going car, it has to have it to be sold as street legal. The Challenger is a big car, it is going to be heavy.

That being said I think it is a pretty cool option. How cool is that someone is making a car designed to be raced on the weekends at the drag strip? If I was in the market for a daily driver this would be on my radar for sure.

Oh and for the 660 guys maybe they will offer one with only the first 4 gears and smaller brakes, that costs the same as the full package.


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: justinp61] #2525267
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How long does that very expensive euphoria last? Until someone else shows up with another one. Then it's the great wallet comparison.
Just like when everyone bought a new '64 GTO.


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: polyspheric] #2525274
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With that trans, it's a perfect 660' car. At least you'd have to pay attention for around 6.5 seconds.

Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: bonefish] #2526842
07/25/18 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By bonefish
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Not a "hater", just an observer... with an opinion:

1. It's not fast enough for the price, if it's really supposed to be a dual-purpose car off the showroom. For close to $50K, it should be a solid 10-sec 'stripper" model, N/A or not.

2. It's not fast enough for the silly "Only comes with one seat" kwap, either.

Makes me wonder what info the Marketing Department is using to map the product to the target audience.

Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: justinp61] #2527057
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I am not sure how stripped out it is, its a little lighter, and it likely has navigation, and AC and all that stuff that can be installed at zero weight penalty because the screen is already there. I thought they came with both seats and the back seat was optional, but the videos I saw were all one seaters.

Will anything else run 11.70s off the showroom floor for less than $50K? And I am sure Chrysler is the only one willing to warranty a car that they WANT you to drag race.


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: justinp61] #2527097
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My understanding after reading the link was that the passengers and rear seat is optional at a $1 cost.

Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: Bad340fish] #2527110
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
I am not sure how stripped out it is, its a little lighter, and it likely has navigation, and AC and all that stuff that can be installed at zero weight penalty because the screen is already there. I thought they came with both seats and the back seat was optional, but the videos I saw were all one seaters.

Will anything else run 11.70s off the showroom floor for less than $50K? And I am sure Chrysler is the only one willing to warranty a car that they WANT you to drag race.



You can add AC with zero weight? Can you use helium for freon to negate the weight of the compressor, condensor, hoses, receiver drier, longer belt, evaporator...?

I think most people will order with those things including the seats so may not be cost effective to not add parts but they are leaving seats out so once you do that in my opinion it is a race car and all accessories are slowing you down.

Anyone know how many demons were ordered without the "extra" seats? Was it all the guys who cant quite get it to run as fast as advertised or the ones running the numbers?


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: Bad340fish] #2527125
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Will anything else run 11.70s off the showroom floor for less than $50K? And I am sure Chrysler is the only one willing to warranty a car that they WANT you to drag race.


Hot Rod ran 11.80's with a stock 2018 Mustang GT/10 speed auto. Close but not quite.


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: Blusmbl] #2527151
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Originally Posted By HotRodDave
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
I am not sure how stripped out it is, its a little lighter, and it likely has navigation, and AC and all that stuff that can be installed at zero weight penalty because the screen is already there. I thought they came with both seats and the back seat was optional, but the videos I saw were all one seaters.

Will anything else run 11.70s off the showroom floor for less than $50K? And I am sure Chrysler is the only one willing to warranty a car that they WANT you to drag race.



You can add AC with zero weight? Can you use helium for freon to negate the weight of the compressor, condensor, hoses, receiver drier, longer belt, evaporator...?

I think most people will order with those things including the seats so may not be cost effective to not add parts but they are leaving seats out so once you do that in my opinion it is a race car and all accessories are slowing you down.

Anyone know how many demons were ordered without the "extra" seats? Was it all the guys who cant quite get it to run as fast as advertised or the ones running the numbers?


The AC isn't adding any weight at all, because every single car comes with it. They won't take it off because it adds production cost to do so. So go buy one, take the AC off yourself and watch it go 11.65 instead of 11.70.

Originally Posted By Blusmbl
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Will anything else run 11.70s off the showroom floor for less than $50K? And I am sure Chrysler is the only one willing to warranty a car that they WANT you to drag race.


Hot Rod ran 11.80's with a stock 2018 Mustang GT/10 speed auto. Close but not quite.



Those cares are pretty damned impressive!


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: Bad340fish] #2527324
07/26/18 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Originally Posted By HotRodDave
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
I am not sure how stripped out it is, its a little lighter, and it likely has navigation, and AC and all that stuff that can be installed at zero weight penalty because the screen is already there. I thought they came with both seats and the back seat was optional, but the videos I saw were all one seaters.

Will anything else run 11.70s off the showroom floor for less than $50K? And I am sure Chrysler is the only one willing to warranty a car that they WANT you to drag race.



You can add AC with zero weight? Can you use helium for freon to negate the weight of the compressor, condensor, hoses, receiver drier, longer belt, evaporator...?

I think most people will order with those things including the seats so may not be cost effective to not add parts but they are leaving seats out so once you do that in my opinion it is a race car and all accessories are slowing you down.

Anyone know how many demons were ordered without the "extra" seats? Was it all the guys who cant quite get it to run as fast as advertised or the ones running the numbers?


The AC isn't adding any weight at all, because every single car comes with it. They won't take it off because it adds production cost to do so. So go buy one, take the AC off yourself and watch it go 11.65 instead of 11.70.

Originally Posted By Blusmbl
Originally Posted By Bad340fish
Will anything else run 11.70s off the showroom floor for less than $50K? And I am sure Chrysler is the only one willing to warranty a car that they WANT you to drag race.


Hot Rod ran 11.80's with a stock 2018 Mustang GT/10 speed auto. Close but not quite.



Those cares are pretty damned impressive!


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: justinp61] #2527331
07/26/18 12:45 PM
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Be interesting to see what the “real world” results are from true off-the-showroom-floor examples in the hands of the buying public.


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Re: Anyone else see this? [Re: justinp61] #2527450
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Mine went 7.90 at 93 in the 1/8 just like it came. Couple thousand miles on it. At a well prepped track, on a great day it's certainly capable of 11's. Mine has the 3.15 gears rather than the 3.55. 1400' density altitude.

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