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#2448606 - 02/08/18 02:32 PM WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed
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Local guy has this kinda rare 1970 Challenger RT for sale. Says it's matching numbers and has a nice build sheet. Decent driver quality paint that's showing its age, but no rust. Ideas on its value? Not many U-Code, 4-speed, Dana cars changing hands.
Lots of RED!


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#2448610 - 02/08/18 02:37 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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A few more pictures...


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#2448612 - 02/08/18 02:41 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Originally Posted By RSI700VIPER
Local guy has this kinda rare 1970 Challenger RT for sale. Says it's matching numbers and has a nice build sheet. Decent driver quality paint that's showing its age, but no rust. Ideas on its value? Not many U-Code, 4-speed, Dana cars changing hands.
Lots of RED!


Don't know it's value, but the placement of the T/A rear spoiler is off by a mile. Back edge of spoiler should line up with back edge of the decklid.

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#2448614 - 02/08/18 02:45 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Need more pics. Engine and undercarriage especially. Looks like engine bay was repainted, that leads me to believe the car wasn't cared for real well as some point???

Also, the interior pic-- pad on parking brake is gone, knob on window crank is gone, these are incredibly easy to correct details that the owner didn't feel the need to address...what more-difficult issues are there???

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#2448619 - 02/08/18 02:55 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Now I see the second set of pics. 318 Stroker is right on the spoiler--placement is WAY off. That would really bother me if I owned the car.

Overall not bad for a lightly modded engine bay. If I was selling it, my bottom price would be right around $50k

What's he asking? $60? More?

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#2448631 - 02/08/18 03:18 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Nice, but the correct white bumble bee stripe would look a lot better then the incorrectly mounted T/A spoiler.
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#2448638 - 02/08/18 03:36 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Great car...a red explosion! I concur, remove spoiler and put white bb stripe on it.....do not paint or 'restore' it.....i see that car bringing big bucks..$40-50k
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#2448652 - 02/08/18 04:23 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: jeff968]
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Originally Posted By jeff968
Nice, but the correct white bumble bee stripe would look a lot better then the incorrectly mounted T/A spoiler.
iagree
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#2448657 - 02/08/18 04:30 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Guy is Asking $39k. Putting the stripe on should cover the holes drilled into the deck lid.
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#2448662 - 02/08/18 04:45 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Originally Posted By RSI700VIPER
Guy is Asking $39k. Putting the stripe on should cover the holes drilled into the deck lid.


Seeems like a unique car in it options & color combo.

That would be a good buy @ 35K which isn't far from his asking.

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#2448668 - 02/08/18 05:06 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Everything in the trunk has been painted. So the car has been painted at least once. Not enough detail in the under hood shot, but I am guessing everything is covered there too. I would check the body over carefully. With that little care in the paint, who knows what else was shoddily painted.
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#2448708 - 02/08/18 06:03 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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If it is a nice sheetmetal car I think it would be a very satisfying car to work out all the fugly touches and turn it into a really sharp car. Price doesn't seem out of line.

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#2448716 - 02/08/18 06:21 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Don't know what the underside looks like, and trunk, but if it's not a perfume pig/bondo bucket, I'd say $35k is decent.

Why must EVERYONE put those valve covers on? Ditto the air cleaner.
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#2448719 - 02/08/18 06:22 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Sometimes endpoints help with pricing and setting comps.

Less that a 440-6 auto in above avg color combo

More than 383 4 speed in above avg color combo
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#2448722 - 02/08/18 06:27 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: 69_SIX_PACK]
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drool I like it (-spoiler + V9W) & price seems reasonable

it will never be a 440 six pack car (& those prices aren't that strong) & unlike 'cudas the 440 4bbl Challenger R/Ts outnumber 440 3x2bbls

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#2448724 - 02/08/18 06:27 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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What's the doohickey above the side marker on the drivers side fender?

Looks decent. As stated above, if not a bondo bucket and metal replacement was done well 35K seems like a deal. Lot of red though!

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#2448727 - 02/08/18 06:30 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: Choppintime]
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#2448733 - 02/08/18 06:44 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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Even at 39K it’s a good deal. What are your plans for it? Fully stock or hop it up abit?

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#2448768 - 02/08/18 07:51 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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If the numbers check out, and mostly original sheet metal with minimal bondo, I would buy the car, then remove the spoiler, braze the holes and install the white bee stripe. Fix the other easy stuff, slap on a set of 15x7 rallyes, THEN drop THE HAMMER until the tires melt! Boo-YHAA!!!
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#2448898 - 02/08/18 10:53 PM Re: WIW 1970 Red on Red on Red Challenger RT 440 U-Code 4-Speed [Re: RSI700VIPER]
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I'm with everyone else I think. A neat car that isn't too far fuglied up yet. $35k seems fair and allows you to spend $5k fixing stuff. It's a $40k-$45k car in nicer shape I think.
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