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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Crank install [Re: 383man] #2295004
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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: Thumperdart] #2304861
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Rods and pistons installed without any clearance drama up Very happy with the Molnar rods beer

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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304871
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More pics

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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304874
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Sorry for the double pics. Moparts does not like my I pad....

Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304879
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The girdle install on this engine took a little twist in that I decided to drill a hole in the girdle directly center between the studs on caps 1,2,3 and 4. Why not take advantage of the threaded 3/8's hole in the center of the aluminum caps and fasten the caps to the girdle. Introducing the worlds first 3 bolt main boogie

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The Highly Contrivesial GIrdle!!!!

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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304895
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Nice!Ever wonder about the shim variance?I used a 3/8 girdle on my iron caps.


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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304896
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How tight did you torque that center main cap bolt to?
Is it enough to lift and distort the main caps work scope
Probably not a good idea to do that work twocents


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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: Cab_Burge] #2304900
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Don't you worry Cab pity all shimmed up and tighted up to 25 ft pounds with a little locktight 👍 This idea was discussed with the owner of SDC who makes the caps along with ASE, NASA, the late Dick Landy and Kieth Richards from The Rolling Stones 👍

Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304917
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Pistons

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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304920
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Lookin' good! Love all the pics and descriptions in this thread.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Piston install [Re: ccdave] #2304995
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Cab, our caps (bcrproducts) tend to be pretty tall in the middle of the cap. this allows for minor shimming and then interfacing with a girdle. if you're going to go this route we really recommend the girdle caps as more load is transferred to the girdle and away from the studs.

a lot of other after market aluminum caps are very similar to stock style caps and even if you use a longer stud on the girdle you're not gaining anything in terms of clamping.


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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Pistons and girdle install [Re: ccdave] #2305027
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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Pistons and girdle install [Re: StealthWedge67] #2305308
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Stay tuned!!!!!! Windage tray / oil pan install next!!!!!

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Next will be the windage tray/ oil pan install !!!!!!!! Stay tuned as the new Edelbrock Gen 3 Victor heads will be in very soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: 470 ci project underway!! Pistons and girdle install [Re: ccdave] #2305562
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Hey Dave love the pictures, love the build. Do yourself a favor and set both heads on the dowl-pins to make sure that they don't bottom out on the heads. They appear to be setting pretty high in the pictures. I cracked a set of very nice 906 heads many years ago by not checking this after the heads and block were surfaced at the machine shop. Well worth the 30 seconds it takes to check it with a feeler gauge.


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Re: 470 ci project underway!! Pistons and girdle install [Re: ccdave] #2305587
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Thanks for the tip!

Re: 470 ci project underway!! Pistons and girdle install [Re: ccdave] #2305644
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Yep, I always install em w/no gasket and see how they fit and the same w/metering blocks on carbs...........


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