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#1117319 - 11/19/11 10:23 PM UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR"
The R/T Garage Offline
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Hello Everyone! This is The R/T Garage! We have updated news on The "Rev-n-nator". There has been many hrs of research and development with The Rev-n-nator in cars for the last 12 months and just finished nine hours of Dyno testing at Induction Research in Shakopee, MN. We used a pump gas 440 built by Steve Vermeer. The results were very impressive. There were approximately 30 Dyno pulls using a stock Mopar Orange box, MSD 7AL and the Rev-n-nator.
RESULTS:
MOPAR ORANGE BOX 518.8 Torque @ 3700rpm/ 514.7 HP @ 5700rpm

MSD 7-AL 519.7 Torque @ 3700rpm/ 527.6 HP @ 5700rpm

REV-N-NATOR 565.5 Torque @ 3700rpm/ 566.7 HP @ 5700rpm

This was done all on the same day with all the same settings and timing set at 32 degrees. We are cranked up about the results!! There will be a follow up dyno session in the next 30 days. We will keep you updated with the next results and scheduled release date.
WE UNDERSTAND THESE ARE HUGE GAINS, THERE CAN BE MANY FACTORS FOR THIS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP DYNO WITH DIFFERENT MOTORS AND DYNO LOCATIONS!!

Thank you from Troy & Laura at the R/T Garage

www.thertgarage.com


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#1117320 - 11/19/11 10:29 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
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Impressive increases.
Are there plans to attempt recreation of a comparison using any various other engines? I only say this because we all like differant engines. Some even like the leaning tower of power.
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#1117321 - 11/19/11 10:29 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
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What? A 40+ gain in HP and torque by nothing more than an improved ignition? Yeah.... Uhhh... whatEVER you say!
We all like the idea of power gains, but come on, man! Who do you expect to believe these claims?

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#1117322 - 11/19/11 10:44 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: Frankenduster]
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We understand it was a huge gain and hard to believe, but these are back to back tests. Unplug one box, then plug the Rev-n-nator in. We are going to schedule another dyno session with a different motor at R&R Dyno with Chuck Lofgren and one of his 440 Six Pac Motors. So we can get some more results. We have a good name and reputation here in MN and have no reason to make up numbers. These are real results being performed by reputable dyno facilities. These are the first dyno tests and we will post the next dyno results good or bad.
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#1117323 - 11/19/11 10:50 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: TheBlueBeast]
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We do plan a small block dyno, but at this point, there has been no testing with a slant 6 yet. This box has been designed specifically for V8 applications.

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#1117324 - 11/19/11 11:19 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
wasacuda Offline
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I am not surprised at the results, The msd and the orange box are both using very old technology and from what I know about the revonater this is all state of the art components and is much more efficient. I expect a fuel mileage increase as well. I cant wait to get one.

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#1117325 - 11/19/11 11:32 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: wasacuda]
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Thank you for your support. You are correct on the new technology. We are using state of the art, very high end electronic components.

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#1117326 - 11/20/11 05:57 AM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
TB3CUDA Offline
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Registered: 09/13/03
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so are these being sold or still developed,i e-mailed you guys over a year ago about one havent heard anything about being for sale??

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#1117327 - 11/20/11 06:07 AM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: Frankenduster]
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Quote:

What? A 40+ gain in HP and torque by nothing more than an improved ignition? Yeah.... Uhhh... whatEVER you say!
We all like the idea of power gains, but come on, man! Who do you expect to believe these claims?




I am also very skeptical on how a stock coil, stock wires and stock replacement plugs can be used with this "magic box" to run so much harder. I've put digital MSD boxes in cars with a noticeable difference, better idle quality, but even a brand name/much larger digital box wouldn't come close those numbers. I'd at least need to hear what style of ignition/control they are using, more than just "digital internals".

The bolt in rev limiter is a very nice function.

What is the intended cost of these boxes?
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#1117328 - 11/20/11 11:16 AM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: TB3CUDA]
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We are finally done with the development!! We have had many things beyond our powers get in the way and lots of promises from our venders, dont need to bore you with the B.S. At this point, they are scheduled for production in Dec. If you emailed us we should have you saved in our records, my wife will contact you when they are ready to be shipped, to see if you still want one. Everyone who has contacted us with name number or email, we will honor the $149.00 price. Thanks for your patience, we do think the wait will be worth it.


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#1117329 - 11/20/11 01:04 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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We also were surprised by the numbers. We did expect to be better then the stock boxs and knew it would come close to MSD. To explain why its doing so well; it has an extremely high speed microprocesser that delivers the spark with precise timing. Our coil driver reads the current draw from what type of coil you have. Yes, a MSD has high voltage because of its capacitive discharge, however, that will kill a stock coil and plug wires. Also, a Capacitive dicharge is like a air tank- you unload it, it needs time to recharge. We have dissected many after market boxes, and NONE of them compare to the electronics we are using. So yes, the numbers are crazy, but all I can tell you is, we did back to back testing and if you look at the numbers between the boxes, we just unplugged one box, then plugged in the next box, reset the timing each time to 32 degress full mech advance, and these are the numbers we netted. We are going to dyno again with a different motor and dyno to get another set of numbers. The pilot cars we have put them in, people have reported that the cars felt more powerful. Also,we are going to have a chassis dyno coming up soon. So, the best way to explain this, is our box does have all the latest and greatest technology in it and is very fast, also dead nuts on! We did not make this Box to compete with MSD or any other high performance ignition, just wanted to build a good reliable piece that was easy for the average guy to install in his kool old mopar street car. This box is going to be made in the USA, will come in black or orange and anybody that calls ahead or sends an email with there name, we will honor the $149.00 price. My wife and I have invested everything we have into this product and have a reputable name and intend on keeping it that way. We will not hide or lie about this, we will post our next set of numbers good or bad.
Also, we will be dynoing with Chuck Lofgren of Lofgren Auto Speacilties, look him up! If there are any flaws he will find them! He is point blank one of the best Mopar engine builders in the country.
If you have any questions please call or email.
Thanks Troy & Laura
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#1117330 - 11/20/11 03:43 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
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You might want to post some dyno graphs or whatever documentation you have to support your claims. Maybe you can get an independent volunteer on here to test your product and get some real world data at the track to validate your results? I think most of us are skeptical of such a big gain from a new ignition box. It would be worth the money if it is true. I'd buy one for my Barracuda. I'd prefer the black box to make it look like a parts store version to hide the "speed secret". I wonder if somehow the timing is getting advanced a bit to make most of those gains? I'd want to see Minimum Timing(Advance), Best Torque (MTBT) numbers for all the boxes. 32 BTDC doesn't sound like much on a 440 with stock type heads.
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#1117331 - 11/20/11 04:50 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: mr_340]
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Even if it made no extra power for the price the rev limiter feature would be worth it to me on a 4 speed car.

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#1117332 - 11/20/11 05:16 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: mr_340]
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Quote:

You might want to post some dyno graphs or whatever documentation you have to support your claims. Maybe you can get an independent volunteer on here to test your product and get some real world data at the track to validate your results? I think most of us are skeptical of such a big gain from a new ignition box. It would be worth the money if it is true. I'd buy one for my Barracuda. I'd prefer the black box to make it look like a parts store version to hide the "speed secret". I wonder if somehow the timing is getting advanced a bit to make most of those gains? I'd want to see Minimum Timing(Advance), Best Torque (MTBT) numbers for all the boxes. 32 BTDC doesn't sound like much on a 440 with stock type heads.




I'd agree, I would replace my 6al for those numbers. Maybe a satisfaction guarantee?
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#1117333 - 11/20/11 05:59 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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Yes, we will work on getting these recent dyno sheets posted. Then After we complete our next round of chassis dyno and next round of engine dyno's at that point we will have all results posted on our web site at www.thertgarage.com
Thanks Troy


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#1117334 - 11/20/11 06:20 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
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#1117335 - 11/20/11 06:23 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
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#1117336 - 11/20/11 06:28 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
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Why is the A/F ratio WAY off for the orange box and MSD? They are in the mid 13 to 14 range while the rev n nator is 12.5, that might be some of the huge gain.

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#1117337 - 11/20/11 07:01 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: WO23Coronet]
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Well here is another pull with the REV-N-NATOR with the air/fuel ratio in the upper 13s. We never touched the carb during dyno testing. It is a Holley 750 dbl pumper with 72s in the primarys and 82s in the secondarys. This was a used motor that was built over 15 years ago, it had only 1500 miles on it. We wanted a real world test on a used motor and only made timing adjustments between the different ignitions, each time we set the timing at 32 degrees full mech advance. The timing adjustments are neccesary because each box would be a couple degress off from one another.
Thanks Troy


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#1117338 - 11/20/11 07:09 PM Re: UPDATED DYNO RESULTS ON THE " REV-N-NATOR" [Re: The R/T Garage]
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What about the real world of engines???

idle to 3500 rpm.

Show us that data if you want to toot your horn


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