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Ported Apache or Thitek heads

Posted By: biff426

Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/10/19 04:57 PM

I have a set of Apache heads that need ported was going to send them to BES. By the time you do their CNC program (and I see varying results) you will have almost what a set of Thiteks cost. I have $1000 in the stock Apache heads. What are the thoughts this is a NA 426 6.1.based deal race only will never see the street.
Posted By: fbs63

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/10/19 05:55 PM

I went through this also. The Thitek's are a better head for a race motor because of the material they are cast from, bronze guides and ductile iron seats.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/10/19 07:04 PM

Send them to Six-pack gut on here. He is super reasonable. He gets my vote at 373cfm at .600
Posted By: biff426

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/11/19 02:47 AM

I contacted six pack gut I like his work......he is a few months out I would really like to race in April.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/11/19 03:42 AM

Buy mine, sell yours...
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/11/19 02:06 PM

Frankenstein has some Thiteks on Ebay right now for 3k done ready to run just add valve gear.
Posted By: fbs63

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/11/19 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By ric3xrt
Frankenstein has some Thiteks on Ebay right now for 3k done ready to run just add valve gear.



The ones in the pic are machined for Jesel's rocker system. Unless it's just a representative pic.
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/11/19 02:47 PM

they just used a stock photo they have on their web page.
Posted By: biff426

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/11/19 04:05 PM

That's a deal anyone have any experience with Frankenstein ? I sent them an email with a few questions looks like I might have a set of apaches for sale.
Posted By: biff426

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/12/19 12:53 AM

Anyone know the minimum bore size for a 2.18 intake valve?
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/12/19 11:55 AM

not sure but I'm stuffing 2.20 in 4.06 bore 6.1 block right now.
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/12/19 12:13 PM

for sh!ts and giggles here's a 2.22 valve in a eagle head, should give you anIdea of what kind of room you have.

Attached picture Eagle Head 2.22a.jpg
Attached picture Eagle Head 2.22b.jpg
Posted By: biff426

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/13/19 02:49 AM

I did some mock up with the apache heads and a stock bore 6.1 I have here and it looks like it will be fine. I bought the heads next question I have is the comfort level using a solid stem 2.18 with beehive springs. I am planning to spin this thing 7300-7600. I am a little concerned. I was thinking of buying the hollow stem 2.18 manley sells and replace the solid stem valves. What's everyone's thoughts?
Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/13/19 09:43 AM

Originally Posted By biff426
I did some mock up with the apache heads and a stock bore 6.1 I have here and it looks like it will be fine. I bought the heads next question I have is the comfort level using a solid stem 2.18 with beehive springs. I am planning to spin this thing 7300-7600. I am a little concerned. I was thinking of buying the hollow stem 2.18 manley sells and replace the solid stem valves. What's everyone's thoughts?


Sounds like $400 endeavor whether you change valves or springs. Except you may be able to sell the springs off your heads. I think it would be hard to sell the valves.

One point would be, not sure you can fit dual springs on Frankenstein's setup.
Posted By: MattW

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/13/19 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By biff426
Anyone know the minimum bore size for a 2.18 intake valve?


Stock Apache on stock 5.7 bore no gasket.

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Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/14/19 01:27 AM

Originally Posted By MattW
Originally Posted By biff426
Anyone know the minimum bore size for a 2.18 intake valve?


Stock Apache on stock 5.7 bore no gasket.


How much radial clearance did the Apaches and stock 5.7 bore have?
Posted By: MattW

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/14/19 02:25 PM

Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Originally Posted By MattW
Originally Posted By biff426
Anyone know the minimum bore size for a 2.18 intake valve?


Stock Apache on stock 5.7 bore no gasket.


How much radial clearance did the Apaches and stock 5.7 bore have?


No idea.
IMO there is enough for it to open but add heat to it then shruggy
Good news is that it opens away from the wall.
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/14/19 03:50 PM

3.917 bore it's about .060 for the 2.14, exhaust is about .010

I'll make it a point to get some photos up in the next week
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/14/19 03:52 PM

look into dual spring LS springs
If you go hollow pm I'll buy the 2.18s you have also hit me up with a price on those apaches.
Posted By: Brian Hafliger

Re: Ported Apache or Thitek heads - 02/15/19 04:57 AM

I could have them turned around in 2 weeks...just a thought.
Brian
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