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Will a Helliphant phit into an A body?

Posted By: Airwoofer

Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/19/18 11:40 PM

This is very interesting. 93 pump gas, 1000 HP, 950 Tq

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopar-mo...-show-mtsema18/

I have a nice KOS A body this would look good in which would take the power, even with a 727.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/20/18 12:09 AM

Same size as a Demon.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/20/18 12:49 AM

Yes it will fit....They got a Hellcrate in one..If you send me one, I will prove it. Got the perfect car for one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlQJJDqXhq0
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/20/18 05:12 PM

Demon fits just fine in a duster.

Posted By: Dragula

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/21/18 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/21/18 03:35 AM

Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?


Down low on the driver's side. You can see the slot.
Posted By: MattW

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/22/18 01:29 AM

Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?


Down low on the driver's side. You can see the slot.


Don't know if this has been asked before but what happened to your R5 P7 engine?
Posted By: MattW

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/22/18 01:30 AM

2 months to complete.
Forgot to secure the passenger side weather seal.
Matt
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/22/18 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By MattW
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



How are you mounting the alternator?


Down low on the driver's side. You can see the slot.


Don't know if this has been asked before but what happened to your R5 P7 engine?


Sold it in spring. My dad is getting into cars finally. He bought a 72 demon. So I figured I'd turn my car back into a street car and enjoy life. Go cruising with the old man. Track life was fun, but I was usually going by myself. It gets old.
Posted By: Airwoofer

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/23/18 11:31 PM

So you are putting that motor into a street car? Which tranny will you use? My car has run at 1250 crank HP with the 3 sp727 (that was OK at refresh by PTC) would probably be a good choice ( not an 8 speed), or a glide. I live close to a good track and KOS is a valid class on a few races.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/24/18 03:26 AM

I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/24/18 03:27 AM

Yes, it will be a true street car again. Going with a Reid Super glide, hopefully that will give a good SLR at the track and still be fairly decent on the street just cruising.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/24/18 03:36 AM

Originally Posted By Dragula
I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?


The engine plate is a combination of Bob Ettes work and mine. He had all the homework done on the timing cover and water pump stuff. I machined the all the SC stuff into it. Going to digitize the whole thing and it will be part of the kit.
Posted By: RapidusMaximus

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/24/18 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?


The engine plate is a combination of Bob Ettes work and mine. He had all the homework done on the timing cover and water pump stuff. I machined the all the SC stuff into it. Going to digitize the whole thing and it will be part of the kit.

Kit?...did I miss something in this thread?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/24/18 03:54 PM

Originally Posted By RapidusMaximus
Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Dragula
I am assuming you made the engine plate yourself?


The engine plate is a combination of Bob Ettes work and mine. He had all the homework done on the timing cover and water pump stuff. I machined the all the SC stuff into it. Going to digitize the whole thing and it will be part of the kit.

Kit?...did I miss something in this thread?


I've completed a kit for the restomod guys, so they can adapt one of the many hellcat SCs laying around to a 5.7, 6.1, or 6.4. Working on variations as well, to not have to use the motorplate. Have not advertised yet, as I'm still working on price and production.

It will also work with Demon and Hellephant SC, should you obtain one of those.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 12/24/18 06:33 PM

Sign me up for one....Been wanting a Hell crate in one of my cars for a while.
Posted By: Airwoofer

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/02/19 08:26 PM

This table has the part number. How much will these engines and the install kit cost?

What is involved to mate a Gen 3 to a 727? Second choice would be a glide.

[img]https://www.hellcat.org/attachments/hellephant-specs-jpg.484861/[/img]

motor: PN 77072492 install kit PN 77072500

What shop wants to be the phirst to put one of these in a street / strip KOS 71 Demon?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/02/19 11:46 PM

The only thing you need is a special flex plate to go from Gen 3 to 727. You can get them pretty much from any of the speed shops now.

If you're putting this in a Demon you'll also need these so you don't have to chop up your firewall.




Posted By: Airwoofer

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/03/19 10:15 PM

What is that for? I no nothing about gen 3.

Yeah, if this looks like a good idea, it will go into my 71 Demon that is already pretty racy but is driven to the track and around.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/03/19 11:38 PM

Originally Posted By Airwoofer
What is that for? I no nothing about gen 3.

Yeah, if this looks like a good idea, it will go into my 71 Demon that is already pretty racy but is driven to the track and around.


When installing a hellcat, demon, or hellephant in a A or B body the water manifold on the rear of the SC will hit the firewall. Many guys have chopped their firewall's up. I saw a need for these so I designed these to take the place of the factory water manifold. They are 1.5" shorter than the factory manifold, which gains you the room you need and not chop up the firewall.
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/04/19 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Originally Posted By Airwoofer
What is that for? I no nothing about gen 3.

Yeah, if this looks like a good idea, it will go into my 71 Demon that is already pretty racy but is driven to the track and around.


When installing a hellcat, demon, or hellephant in a A or B body the water manifold on the rear of the SC will hit the firewall. Many guys have chopped their firewall's up. I saw a need for these so I designed these to take the place of the factory water manifold. They are 1.5" shorter than the factory manifold, which gains you the room you need and not chop up the firewall.



Love it , the easier the swap becomes the more people will do it.
Posted By: Airwoofer

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/04/19 09:25 PM

Originally Posted By R5P7Duster
Demon fits just fine in a duster.



Did you have to remove the inner fenders and snout bars to get it to fit?
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/04/19 10:03 PM

Inner fenders were gone long before this. The engine bay bars I cut out for the motorplate. I'll have to bend some different bars up, not a big deal. Everything prior to this was designed around an R5 engine. Dimensionally very different.
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Will a Helliphant phit into an A body? - 01/04/19 10:17 PM

You would not need to remove the inner fenders for this install.
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