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Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune

Posted By: WO23Coronet

Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/22/18 05:29 AM

https://www.allpar.com/news/2018/03/stock-tuned-demon-makes-874rwhp-40037
Posted By: sycboi

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/23/18 07:47 AM

Sheesh, that engine is an absolute monster. Amazing technologies working together...
Posted By: GoodysGotaCuda

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/23/18 12:50 PM

Here I am putting around at 370whp like it's a good time. The bar is very high!
Posted By: 6PKRTSE

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/23/18 04:14 PM

Awesome what these cars can do these days. Impressive as it is. The stupid A$$ fender flares ruin it for me. I would rather put that drive train in my 2012 R/T. I like the 08-14's better than then 15's & up.
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/23/18 05:32 PM

laugh2 Always a negative nancy no matter what... if it wasn't the flares, it'd be something else.

I'm sure they are built to handle even more power, just detuned so they last.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/23/18 05:42 PM

I like the flares. Amazing that there is that much power left as low hanging fruit! Jeez---someone is going to get 1000 rwhp without NO2 out of one of these soon.

Amazing! The Ford boys are all butthurt over the Demon, even the Chevy boys are laughing at them and giving Mopar thumbs up!
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/23/18 06:08 PM

That’s what suprised me as well, usually you need a pulley change for that kind of hp. Seems like this was all timing and fuel changes
Posted By: 67autocross

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/25/18 01:01 AM

That has to be touching on 1000 horse power at the crank ....when is the crate engine out?
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/25/18 02:12 PM

The thing I think a lot of people miss, is the Hellcat engine is not breaking at these power levels(some supercharger bearing issues)
The Demon so far seems to be able to handle 1000hp@ the crank and their not breaking pieces.
I love my old G2 hemi, but lets face it folks in stock form they wouldn't hold it together like these G3s are.
Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/26/18 12:49 AM

If they offer a Demon crate engine, I would have to think seriously about selling off the old toys and dripping one in the Scatpack.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/26/18 02:02 AM

I’d guess they do come out with one within the next year or so
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/26/18 04:39 AM

How different are the engines? Cam, different blower?
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/26/18 05:39 AM

Demon uses a 2.7L blower at 14.5 psi, Hellcat 2.4L @ 11.7 psi. Cams, I’m not sure. I think everything else is pretty much the same
Edit:apparently the cam is different. .561/.551. 224/240@.050, 109/137 lobe centers for the Demon.
Here’s an Allpar article with the differences:
https://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger/demon-deep-dive.html
Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/26/18 06:34 AM

Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
I’d guess they do come out with one within the next year or so

I'll have my eyes open for the release.
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/26/18 07:37 AM

According to that link, 62% has been changed from the hellcat to demon engine... way more than I figured.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/26/18 07:59 AM

Looks like better rods, better built crank etc.
Posted By: L4staero

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/27/18 07:46 AM

Originally Posted By Silver70
According to that link, 62% has been changed from the hellcat to demon engine... way more than I figured.

I think the 62% figure relates to 62% of the parts value are different not that 62% of the components are different
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/27/18 10:28 AM

Block, heads,front cover, crappy timing gear is the same ,
Rods, Pistons, Supercharger, cam are different
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/27/18 05:17 PM

"This was achieved by introducing a new version 6.2-liter supercharged Hemi, with 62% of the content changed from the original Hellcat Hemi — including a new block, crankshaft, connecting rods, pistons, and supercharger assembly."

This is from the article... Looks like a redesigned shortblock, not just rods/pistons, cam etc. To me this means block, crank and so on.
Posted By: L4staero

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/29/18 06:53 AM

I believe the only real difference with the block is its honed with a torque plate.

The other real power producing changes are camshaft, larger supercharger and intake.
Posted By: ric3xrt

Re: Wow, Demon gains 100+ hp with just a tune - 03/29/18 11:31 AM

I've had 2 Demon 6.2s come thru here for some coating work, casting # on the block was the same as my Hellcat blocks
It's my understanding( my source could be wrong) that the Demon engine during assembly , not only is Honed with a plate, but the rings are Gapped with a plate also.
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