My gen 3 project

Posted by: joshking440

My gen 3 project - 04/29/17 06:59 AM

Little update. I was at BES this week checking my header flange fitment and my block was in the boring machine.

We are getting close- Should have it back in a few weeks.

4.060 bore 3.900 stroke 10:1 GEN3 performance block,
thitek heads 2.200 Ti intake valves inconel exhaust
Winberg Crank
Callies ultra billet steel rods
Ross pistons
242/242 .615 .615 @120 cam from Comp

I have a set of billet precision 7675 ball bearing turbos that will make up for the short stroke and low compression. smile


Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/29/17 10:20 AM

That is sexy , I'll be following along
Posted by: RylisPro

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/29/17 10:41 AM

Good to see more Gen 3 aluminum blocks out there. They should all be like that from the factory.
I wonder what improvements the World Products block has over the Mopar block. Probably much more stiffer.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/30/17 08:30 AM

I know that they use a more robust material and that there is more material overall because the weight over the original.m Mopar block is pretty significant. Something like 20lbs heavier.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/30/17 08:33 AM

Mocked a block up in the car yesterday with the trans case. She looks so small lol
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/30/17 08:39 AM

Screenshot on the block
Posted by: Triple Threat

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/01/17 11:05 AM

You're gonna need some steering column mods once you put the heads on. Then it wont seem so small.

Keep the updates coming.
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/01/17 11:08 AM

Very nice!
Posted by: Adrielp

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/01/17 12:56 PM

Josh, what class are you going to run with this combo? Limited DR, Outlaw 275?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/01/17 04:01 PM

You are correct sir...I cut the other sleeve on the Column and will be looking to relocate the master cylinder even further
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/02/17 07:04 AM

Originally Posted By Adrielp
Josh, what class are you going to run with this combo? Limited DR, Outlaw 275?



Just drag week and whatever local street car shootout type deal I can weisel my way into.
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/02/17 09:32 AM

What are you planning for rear gear and trany with this combo? You gonna run a Gearvendor od?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/02/17 09:37 PM

2.10 first gear Turbo 400 and a ford 9"with a 3.55 I think. The car runs a 30" tall radial in the back.

I haven't fully decided on the gear vendors. Some people say it needs the floor modified and some say it doesn't. I haven't had to cut to floor up yet and don't really want to do that. And they are not cheap....I've kinda went over budget. Again...
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/03/17 12:07 PM

Going through this right now with a Reid case 400 in my 71 demon build. The floor will need modified for the 400 with a GV on it. they have one for a TF that will fit with "dings" in the floor pan but it has a super long tailshaft adaptor I didn't care for and I wanted a aftermarket SFI case so I didn't need to mess with shields.
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/03/17 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By joshking440
2.10 first gear Turbo 400 and a ford 9"with a 3.55 I think. The car runs a 30" tall radial in the back.

I haven't fully decided on the gear vendors. Some people say it needs the floor modified and some say it doesn't. I haven't had to cut to floor up yet and don't really want to do that. And they are not cheap....I've kinda went over budget. Again...


I'll post some pics on my build thread of my tunnel mods to fit the GV unit, plan on making sparks this weekend.

And what's another 3k for a build like your doing? LOL

Low rpms on drag week are my main reason I want one.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/03/17 10:47 PM

lol. I'm trying not to "over do it".

And I'm trying to finish the interior of my barn...
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/07/17 07:00 PM

Working on ride height of the old girl.

Posted by: Jerry

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/07/17 09:01 PM

love the color, can't wait to see it all together
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/30/17 06:25 PM

Picked up the finished engine today.

BES really is an awesome place to deal with.
Posted by: sixpackgut

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/30/17 06:49 PM

Bad ass
Posted by: killermopar

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/30/17 09:28 PM

Wow!!!!! That is so nice. Congratulations!! Can't wait to see it in action
Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/31/17 08:37 AM

Love the Intake, Class job, great looking ride so far.
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/31/17 11:25 AM

Nice engine porn! What kind of hp you shooting for with twins on it? You using Holley Dominator for spark & fuel management?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/31/17 12:24 PM

I'm guessing it will 1300-1400 pretty handily... with the hydraulic roller cam, I'm not sure what the limit will be and I'm not into speculating.

That hellcat charger that Barton just built made serious power to the tires on 11lbs of boost and a 300 shot of nitrous. Something like 1450

I'm going to be in the 20-25 lbs of boost range so we will just have to see.

I'm using the AEM infinity fuel injection.
Posted by: racerhog

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/23/17 11:45 PM

Cars looking Bish'in.... smile
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/26/17 09:52 AM

Should have the bullet sat in the engine bay this week.
Posted by: hudsonhornet7x

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/26/17 10:46 AM

Big Baller with a Hilti Drill!!
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/26/17 10:56 AM

That's funny you noticed my drill

I have only Hilti battery tools. The price in kit form isn't to bad and they last for ever.
Posted by: Just-a-dart

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/26/17 06:41 PM

That is badass, looking forward to the results thread.
Posted by: WO23Coronet

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/26/17 08:01 PM

Absolute art, what's the taper on your intake runners?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/26/17 08:47 PM

I'm not sure. 4.725 is runner length
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/29/17 08:23 AM

Made a little progress last night.

Excitement really set in yesterday
Posted by: 80arrow

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/29/17 07:01 PM

Would that intake clear a stock, flat hood? Everything looks awesome.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/29/17 11:55 PM

We think it will. It's gonna be close
Posted by: Triple Threat

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/30/17 12:28 PM

You can remove that coil on the firewall now smile
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/30/17 01:43 PM

Looks great!! What did you go with on a flexplate/flywheel and converter? My Ried bell has starter pocket on both sides, driver side fits standard mopar style mini starter with minor block mods. Not a lot of guys running th400 behind a G3 yet. Curious what route you went?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/30/17 06:42 PM

I did the ATI bell and case. I'll let you know how that whole thing stacks up
Posted by: RTSE4ME

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/30/17 08:15 PM

Really nice build.
Visner intake?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/30/17 08:47 PM

Yes it is
Posted by: SC304

Re: My gen 3 project - 07/16/17 03:19 PM

So where would a guy go and get a motor plate like that?
Posted by: 80arrow

Re: My gen 3 project - 07/29/17 08:35 AM

Any more progress?
Posted by: 80arrow

Re: My gen 3 project - 07/30/17 10:01 AM

Originally Posted By SC304
So where would a guy go and get a motor plate like that?


x2
Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 07/30/17 11:59 AM

You'll have to give Josh a day or two to get to this, he's one of the guys involved with the Monster Mopar Weekend this weekend
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 07/31/17 09:55 PM

I did just get back from putting on Monster Mopar Weekend. Sorry for the delayed response

The motor plate was a square blank that I drew a radius on and cut out with a band saw and cleaned up with a dynafile. I got my blank from Mike Roth at MR2 performance (765) 483-9371

I do have a few updates but we have been working on the underside of the car and are just now starting headers.

We have a prototype set of the Header flanges from Brian Smith. What an awesome piece.

We had to get some 1 7/8 centerline radius tubes for the primaries and they will be here tomorrow. Hope to give more frequent updates now.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 07/31/17 09:57 PM

One more
Posted by: fbs63

Re: My gen 3 project - 07/31/17 11:16 PM

Nice! I need a set.
Posted by: 80arrow

Re: My gen 3 project - 08/03/17 05:28 PM

Thanks for the info. Can't wait to see your project all together.
Posted by: 408strokerdart

Re: My gen 3 project - 08/03/17 08:37 PM

Glad they fit well Josh. I placed an order with my machine shop Tuesday for 6 sets in the 1 7/8" primary size. They will be in stock in 4 to 5 weeks. If anyone wants to claim a set (no need to send $) just let me know and you will be one of the first to have them. PM me if you need pricing info. They will only be available in stainless steel unless I get enough interest to justify an order of mild steel flanges.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 08/05/17 10:48 PM

Awesome

We are getting closer to welding on them now.
Posted by: moparmitch

Re: My gen 3 project - 08/15/17 11:39 AM

Update on things please...

I may have missed this, but is this a Mopar block or another manufacturer?

Thanks!
Posted by: 6PKRTSE

Re: My gen 3 project - 08/18/17 02:11 PM

Awesome build. Did Billy Gilsbach up here in Michigan stretch the rear wheels opening on this car along with some other updates at one time? If so, I remember seeing it in his old shop many years ago.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 08/18/17 11:42 PM

You are thinking of Tonys duster that used to run KOS. That's a different car although one of my favorites.

That car is still in Detroit owned by Tony Masconi It's painted and has a demon tail panel in it now. I think it's blue or purple.

No updates lately. My fabricator has been really busy with his day job as he runs the fab shop at DSR
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 08/18/17 11:42 PM

The block is the Gen3 performance block from hhp
Posted by: daryld

Re: My gen 3 project - 10/08/17 03:40 PM

Which dipstick set up is that?
Posted by: 70dusterjohn

Re: My gen 3 project - 12/27/17 02:39 PM

Any updates josh.. ???
Posted by: pittsburghracer

Re: My gen 3 project - 12/27/17 10:09 PM

On Facebook today he posted pictures of headers he is fabbing up.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/03/18 09:07 AM

We haven't made much progress until the last few weeks. I had decided to finish the inside of my barn and we moved the car from my friends house back to my place.

Headers are done turbos are mounted in place
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/03/18 09:09 AM

Few more
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/03/18 09:15 AM

I can’t seem to get the pictures I upload to work
Posted by: onig

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/03/18 11:04 AM

How did you determine engine position,did you place it where it best suits for component location or use the standard mounting location on the crossmember or transmission mount?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/03/18 06:50 PM

it’s same mopar offset as my big block was.

The car started as a big block 727 then I swapped that out for a t400. When I went gen 3 I stuck the t400 back in the car and mounted the engine the motorplate ended up with in .090 of where it used to be. So I added a mid plate and pushed it forward
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/05/18 11:11 AM

try again
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/05/18 11:25 AM

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Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/05/18 11:27 AM

..
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/05/18 11:36 AM

well that was painful - but we got them up
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/05/18 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By daryld
Which dipstick set up is that?


milodon
Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/05/18 12:08 PM

just Amazing , can't wait till it's done.
Posted by: kpzbee

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/05/18 08:47 PM

Spectacular! up
Posted by: Just-a-dart

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/06/18 10:23 AM

Thanks for takimg the time to post up the pics. Combo looks sweet!
Posted by: onig

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/08/18 10:52 AM

Great pics.
Do you have any of how the turbo is supported?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 01/08/18 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By onig
Great pics.
Do you have any of how the turbo is supported?


Right now they are just hanging on the exhaust. I’m waiting on some
trick billet turbo mounts from Maven Performance Should be here today or tomorrow then I’ll get you some pictures once they are locked in.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/01/18 08:06 AM

Making headway.

Driveshaft loop/trans crossmember is in. Driveshaft is in. Remade the motorplate and working on getting the exhaust off the turbos handled.

The car goes Wednesday to have intercoolers plumbed and cold side plumbing finished up.

Then engine bay paint and reassembly. It’s starting to feel like there’s an end in sight.

Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/01/18 10:09 AM

Like the engine plate...I get goose bumps every time I see this project.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/01/18 11:38 AM

Few More
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/01/18 11:53 AM

Originally Posted By ric3xrt
Like the engine plate...I get goose bumps every time I see this project.


Thanks man. Its been an interesting journey so far... hope it performs as well as it looks... only time will tell
Posted by: WO23Coronet

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/01/18 12:33 PM

Wow, are there any cast parts on that engine lol? Looks great, unreal workmanship with all that billet
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/02/18 09:51 AM

Looking good Josh!
Posted by: Twostick

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/02/18 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By Quickrunner
Going through this right now with a Reid case 400 in my 71 demon build. The floor will need modified for the 400 with a GV on it. they have one for a TF that will fit with "dings" in the floor pan but it has a super long tailshaft adaptor I didn't care for and I wanted a aftermarket SFI case so I didn't need to mess with shields.


They have a short 727 version of the GV that uses the short truck/MH trans output shaft. Shortens the overall length about 10" IIRC.

Kevin
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/03/18 12:19 AM

Got the radiator and Fan to fit. Barely.
Posted by: jdralph

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/03/18 11:08 AM

very nice
Posted by: onig

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/04/18 07:50 AM

Can't remember if you mentioned this, but are you planning on inter-cooling?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/04/18 10:17 PM

Funny you mention it. The car was supposed to go tomorrow to have Intercoolers built that fit on top of the fenderwells but I had a last minute change of heart and felt like it would ruin the looks under the hood so I’m going to not. I have plenty of pump and injector for e85 so I’m going to max that out first. If that’s not enough power... I’ll add them.
Posted by: 80arrow

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/12/18 07:08 PM

Boy this looks awesome. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/20/18 05:56 PM

Closer

Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/20/18 06:30 PM

Closer

Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/20/18 09:15 PM

Welded

Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/20/18 09:17 PM

.

Posted by: blown572dart

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/20/18 10:18 PM

Sure looks pretty
Posted by: 6bblFLASH

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/21/18 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By blown572dart
Sure looks pretty


Yes it does,nicely done.
Posted by: 80arrow

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/21/18 08:39 AM

That looks awesome. How do you like the Vibrant clamps?

Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/21/18 03:21 PM

They are nice. No complaints at all.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/24/18 10:34 PM

Little closer



Posted by: aus370

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/25/18 02:02 AM

VERY NICE . Is that exhaust aluminum ?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/25/18 07:42 AM

Yes. It’s 11 gauge aluminum. I have the first 90° off the turbo and another small 30°ish bend in stainless then I used a v band to switch to aluminum. I’ve seen a lot of very high hp cars do this and no one has anything negative to say as long as the thing material is used.

Race parts solutions sells it.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/25/18 07:43 PM

Few updates.





Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/26/18 06:08 AM

That car just screams, "I'm going to take your lunch money"
Posted by: Quickrunner

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/26/18 07:50 AM

Looking good Josh!
Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/26/18 11:51 AM

For the record my lab assistant here at work has made that last engine shot of your car , the screen saver in the lab.....he's a bit of a duster freak
Posted by: Triple Threat

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/26/18 12:41 PM

Change those front tires, you'll thank me later.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/26/18 06:32 PM

I got a new set of radials in the corner.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/26/18 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By ric3xrt
For the record my lab assistant here at work has made that last engine shot of your car , the screen saver in the lab.....he's a bit of a duster freak


That’s awesome. Tell him thanks
Posted by: Bad340fish

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/27/18 08:06 AM

Is Drag Week still on the table? I thought i saw somewhere that you had planned on it.

Car Looks awesome!
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/28/18 04:08 AM

Still the plan so far.
Posted by: Bad340fish

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/28/18 09:24 AM

Awesome, can't wait to check it out in person.
Posted by: Bigcube

Re: My gen 3 project - 04/28/18 04:57 PM

WOW! I love it. Nice work beer
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/11/18 05:23 AM

Backwards = Forwards I guess



Posted by: ric3xrt

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/12/18 07:57 AM

OMG were the Chevy guys that intimidated that they had to steal your G3?


Painting it the same color or going block?
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/12/18 03:52 PM

Same color.
Posted by: justinp61

Re: My gen 3 project - 05/12/18 05:17 PM

Straighten up the flange on the radiator support while your in there Josh. Looks great, I like the green.
Posted by: joshking440

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/25/18 12:47 PM

We have fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnJofSAwjpo

https://youtu.be/TgqlnpBaui0
Posted by: onig

Re: My gen 3 project - 06/25/18 04:52 PM

Nice work Josh, keep at it.