6.4 hemi, what would i be getting myself into?

I can possibly get my hands on a 6.4 hemi out of a 2013 charger srt8 super bee that has been hit. i would love this engine for my 1967 valiant but do not want to get stuck with something i can't use. i would run it (street/strip) in stock configuration as is being everything checks out, but my ultimate plan is a little boost (turbo). no matter how much i read i still have a little fear id be stuck and unable to get it running with tons of money. anyone have things to look out for ? is the vvt an issue? will it be an issue when i add bewst ? (have semi knowledge on lockout and limiting kits). computer (which i would also get out of donor car). oh also, the engine did run and drive when it was parked. car just wrecked. any help, guidance would be greatly appreciated.
thanks

also anybody with experience, i would be able to get this into a valiant with the stock k frame. i have read it will be a tight fit but will work with the correct oil pan.

Although it is easier to swap an earlier hemi I like your choice. The VVT can be locked, so that is not too big of a deal.

I would use the Holley HP fuel injection as it is self learning. Also, the 6.4 pistons are pretty fragile so it would probably be a good idea to swap them out for forged ones if you are planning a turbo setup.

Check with HotWireAuto, they have harnesses and computers for swaps. They reflash factory computers

You would end up with an 09 Challenger ECU since those are re-flashable, and a Hotwire harness. You will need TTI headers to keep stock K. Figure about $3K for those 2 things alone but if you want to keep it stock, thats how I would go. Just go with a 6.4/manual trans tune and run a 727/904 or about any manual trans out there.

My is put the whole thing in. Engine and trans. Get it running enjoy it and then down the road turbo the thing.
Get it going on the stock ECM and youll be surprised at the power.
Hell just going to full lenght headers will net you around 30 to 50 hp?
Matt

I have a 6.4 in my 69 truck...i went with hotwire auto...some things can be an issue. VVT is your friend!

you can pm me if you want to ask some questions, i will give you my phone number

so I can use the ecu out of the donor car and trans as is. at what point do you have to send the harness out ? if i were to run a 904 ?

thanks. will def be in contact with you !

Mega squirt

Modern muscle performance has what you need to do this.
I would stick with factory trans but they may be able to help you with the 904.
Matt

If you have the whole car why would you use a 904?
Just checkin'

R.

thats what i will do. will my trans tunnel need to be modified?

I believe so.
Matt

From what I've seen and read, stick with the 904 for the time being. When using new trans there's a very big can of worms you have to get around at this time. Go back into the other posts to read about the Nagg trans issues.

Shouldn't have an issue if he is running the stock ecm?
Or am I missing something?

That's exactly the point. The ECM uses transmission inputs as well as engine and environmental inputs.

Plus, it's an overdrive transmission and people here have said they're plenty stout.

R.

so it would work ? lol

The NAG's need a stand alone computer when you take away wheel sensors and speed sensors. PCS is the company IIRC. Yeah it can be done, but the donor cars wiring and computers are basically worthless unless you also use its dash,column,rear axle,abs etc.

http://www.hotwireauto.com/?page=sales-nag1

Hot Wire Auto has a NAG1 set up where you don't need the dash or any of that stuff. You need some of the modules and such, it's in the link. The NAG1 is a sweet transmission, tough as nails

well probably not getting the 6.4 i thought i was. still in the market for a 6.1 or 5.7. wanna pull it out of a wrecked car from the salvage auction, as i feel this will be the best route. still going in an a body (67 valiant) with factory steering. what do you guys suggest as far as 5.7 or 6.1. want a turbo down the road. street/strip.

megasquirt can do VVT and it is amazing.

They offer a base cal and a plug 'n' play harness for 6.4Ls, too. I have 2 running but not 100% tuned yet (spring here, will hit a dyno soon). a-e-a.com .

F&B offers a bolt-on throttle body that flows more air and is cable operated, I designed it.

No major problems into A-body, shorten the steering col jacket a bit, milodon pan, TTi headers and mounts, remote filter.

Rick

AEA also does harness and cal for 09-up VVT 5.7L, F&B has that TB, too.

Rick

That site is a front page only and hasn't been updated since 2004.

That doesn't encourage me to spend money with them.

I'm not sure what the A-E-A.com is, but the MS3 box is pretty up-to-date.

http://megasquirt.info/products/pro-controllers/ms3-gold-hemi/

http://www.efisource.com/shop/ms3-gen3-hemi-plug-play-gold-box/

I got a 5.7 Hemi core motor to fit in a 1965 Dodge Dart by using Jeep SRT exhaust manifolds, and coilover shocks to allow for the exhaust. I built a rack and pinion setup out of a stock K frame to take care o steering. The manifolds just make it in the early A, so there ought to be a little extra room in a 67 or newer. That is a truck oil pan , and I plan to shorten it and add back the volume with side buckets.

What is the part # for this throttle body?
I checked the site but could not find it.

if you were running torsion bars would the jeep manifolds clear?

Rick, also does this allow you to use the NAG1 trans since you are not using the electronic gas pedal? Or do you need to use that for the trans?