Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 11/04/1604:31 AM
This little known secret Mopar event has been going off and on for a decade in it’s newest form. The SFSF has been the training ground for well developed Mopars.
This is a High Performance Driving Event (HPDE) for street/OEM cars. Some race prepared cars will attend as well. Run groups will be divided according to experience. Don’t be shy, this is not a race. It’s for the driving enthusiast. If you are a Newbie rest assured that we will work with you to build skills that will help keep you safe and get the most from your experience. All cars are welcome!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 02/24/1708:29 AM
Just registered with Alltime Racing can't wait for this event again! I don't even have confirmed days off of work so either I'm gonna be sick on April 5-6th or quitting my job one or the other haha!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/11/1707:47 AM
BBQ and beer Wednesday 2pm. Meet and unload the cars. Round table with other drivers, and BS session headed up by Chrysler Chassis and Race Engineer Bill Surber, liaison to Richard Petty Enterprises from 1968-1976...and on , and on.
Car List: 1958 Plymouth Hardtop '15 Hellcat '17 Viper '64 Nova '73 Cuda '70 Challenger ZR1 Vette '15 Challenger '69 Daytona '70 Cuda '69 AMX 911 Turbo S '73 Charger 911 S '67 Coronet '12 Challenger '15 Mustang Gt '16 Z06 Ferrari Modena
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/12/1704:44 AM
BBQ and beer Wednesday 2pm. Meet and unload the cars. Round table with other drivers, and BS session headed up by Chrysler Chassis and Race Engineer Bill Surber, liaison to Richard Petty Enterprises from 1968-1976...and on , and on.
Car List: 1958 Plymouth Hardtop '15 Hellcat '17 Viper '64 Nova '73 Cuda '70 Challenger ZR1 Vette '15 Challenger '69 Daytona '70 Cuda '69 AMX 911 Turbo S '73 Charger 911 S '67 Coronet '12 Challenger '15 Mustang Gt '16 Z06 Ferrari Modena '68 Dart GT ready to rock '95 Mustang Daytona Coupe '69 Camaro Hertz rent-a-racer '70 TA Challenger '70 Chevelle Comp Coupe Viper GT3
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/12/1711:19 PM
All signed up and ready to go. Trying to get some friends to join us. Once you do this track day you will be hooked. It's hard to wipe the grin from your face after. Nothing like drag racing or cones.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/18/1708:23 AM
BBQ and beer Wednesday 2pm. Meet and unload the cars. Round table with other drivers, and BS session headed up by Chrysler Chassis and Race Engineer Bill Surber, liaison to Richard Petty Enterprises from 1968-1976...and on , and on.
Car List: 1958 Plymouth Hardtop '15 Hellcat '17 Viper '64 Nova '73 Cuda '70 Challenger ZR1 Vette '15 Challenger '69 Daytona '70 Cuda '69 AMX 911 Turbo S '73 Charger 911 S '67 Coronet '12 Challenger '15 Mustang Gt '16 Z06 Ferrari Modena '68 Dart GT ready to rock '95 Mustang Daytona Coupe '69 Camaro Hertz rent-a-racer '70 TA Challenger '70 Chevelle Comp Coupe Viper GT3 Comp Coupe Viper Hellcat Audi TT Audi TT quattro VW GTI '68 Valiant, "Red Brick" '65 Dart '66 Dart
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/27/1702:39 AM
Colors in Orange, Green and Blue. The artwork features Space age design juxtaposed to Jet age design in the form of the 1958 Plymouth Fury and the 1969 Dodge Daytona. Very limited, Only 50 available, sizes S, M, L, XL, XXL. $30 at the track while supplies last!!!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/29/1706:43 AM
I'm in! I quit my job 3 days earlier than planned so I could go. If anybody needs something large from Summit Racing brought down PM me, I have semi empty truck. See ya Wed afternoon
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/29/1707:04 AM
Originally Posted By NV69B7RR
I'm in! I quit my job 3 days earlier than planned so I could go. If anybody needs something large from Summit Racing brought down PM me, I have semi empty truck. See ya Wed afternoon
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 03/30/1709:58 PM
I got a cot and sleeping bag for this year, camp out at the track! I'm also bringing a couple of Trans Am `Cuda front spoilers if anyone wanted to check them out!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/02/1702:17 AM
Autocrossed today. My Camaro front spoiler was destroyed by a couple cones, my inner fender lip is shredding into my tires, and I lost 2 nuts on my driver's side exhaust flange bolts. So, I have some work to do tonight and tomorrow. I'm going to remove the front GT trim, just for Willow, try cutting/massaging the inner lip some more and add some nuts to my exhaust flange with lock washers installed on both sides. I don't think I'll be able to get new tires in the brand/size I want by Tuesday so I may have to baby it or limit my runs at Willow as I already have a decent sized gashes in my tires.
This is why I did this event. Had to shake down the car before Willow. At least it drove nice on the freeway.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/02/1704:35 AM
Yeah those gashes look deep but at least its cutting into the tread of the tire where its thicker and not the sidewall. Having cut up tires at the track is still sketchy though!
I would be working that lip and fold it up as much as possible. Things are a lot different at the track, much higher speeds and more cornering forces. Last place you want to have a tire blowout
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/02/1706:49 AM
Was the Autocross track really bumpy? Maybe body roll and bumps cause the tires to contact the body? In Reno's Hot August Nights "drift car" course last year, there was a dip in the course to provide drainage for the parking lot. You'd see the cars sliding sideways through the curve and the dip would sometimes upset the car to the point of gaining traction or spinning out. The better drivers were able to fight through it and keep their line. I understand that many Autocross events are held in empty parking lots so you take what you can get. How did you do otherwise?
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/02/1707:08 AM
Originally Posted By RylisPro
Yeah those gashes look deep but at least its cutting into the tread of the tire where its thicker and not the sidewall. Having cut up tires at the track is still sketchy though!
I would be working that lip and fold it up as much as possible. Things are a lot different at the track, much higher speeds and more cornering forces. Last place you want to have a tire blowout
Plan right now is to try to fold the lip over a little more or cut some of it, possibly remove the front GT trim for the track day, and get locking washers and new nuts for my exhaust bolts. Since I have the front wheels off, I'll probably just go through all the bolts making sure everything is tight. The back end I'm comfortable with because I did it 2-3 years ago.
Originally Posted By Frankenduster
Was the Autocross track really bumpy? Maybe body roll and bumps cause the tires to contact the body? In Reno's Hot August Nights "drift car" course last year, there was a dip in the course to provide drainage for the parking lot. You'd see the cars sliding sideways through the curve and the dip would sometimes upset the car to the point of gaining traction or spinning out. The better drivers were able to fight through it and keep their line. I understand that many Autocross events are held in empty parking lots so you take what you can get. How did you do otherwise?
No, but it was a lot of transitions one right after another. Not really any straights. Just left, right, left, right... So, the car is swaying side to side quite a bit.
As far as my performance, my autocross technique is still very rusty and I'm still unfamiliar with the Dart in a racing environment. So, I scored last in my group and was definitely on the lowest end of cars for the day. I often had trouble controlling the car through the various transitions. The back end will break loose with the smallest input. Sometimes without an input. It's definitely begging for some Bridgestone RE-71R and a 275 series tire but those wear out super quick. The average time was about 37-38 seconds, I believe. My fastest was about 43 seconds and that was with a misfiring engine.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/02/1707:20 AM
Originally Posted By autoxcuda
You don't get nearly the amount of body roll as you do in a tight autocross. And you will not turn the wheels as tight either.
I don't think you generate as much heat in the tires either when autoX-ing? From the looks of it I am taking a guess that tire is on the rear driver side. The tire dosen't have the beads of melted rubber that one usually sees at a track (I haven't auto-Xed in years so I forget?). No rubber melting/ deformation at all in that tire, but will definitely see when ran hard at the track.
Hopefully the heat generated and expansion of air dosen't affect that tire any. I'm sure Samy will be fine, I just would not run any tires with cuts especially with the speeds on the straight at Big Willow.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/02/1706:14 PM
Originally Posted By RylisPro
Originally Posted By autoxcuda
You don't get nearly the amount of body roll as you do in a tight autocross. And you will not turn the wheels as tight either.
I don't think you generate as much heat in the tires either when autoX-ing? From the looks of it I am taking a guess that tire is on the rear driver side. The tire dosen't have the beads of melted rubber that one usually sees at a track (I haven't auto-Xed in years so I forget?). No rubber melting/ deformation at all in that tire, but will definitely see when ran hard at the track.
Hopefully the heat generated and expasion of air dosen't affect that tire any. I'm sure Samy will be fine, I just would not run any tires with cuts especially with the speeds on the straight at Big Willow.
Both of the tires that are damaged are on the front. The rears are 100% ok. The one pictured is front passenger. Front driver is similar but not as bad IMO. I didn't race enough to generate any real heat in them. If I did the whole day and there weren't 10 run groups, maybe.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/03/1704:33 AM
Originally Posted By dart4forte
Toms nickname is Cone Killa
Been known for that, a time or 20.
There is at least a couple marks on the SS/T truck, and the AMX from the cones. And I left at least a few marks on the cones. One cone was pretty messed up too when it got caught between the tire and the frame and inner fender on the AMX.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/04/1707:48 AM
A car that feels slightly loose (Traction-wise) at the rear will be MUCH more likely to spin as it goes faster. An oversteer condition is exponential. Oversteer helps a car make tighter turns in the autocross and a spin out at such low speeds rarely causes lasting damage. If the tail end gets loose in a turn on a road course where other cars are nearby, bent sheet metal and apologies are likely!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/04/1704:02 PM
That's the bottom line or Alltime will put a big rookie X on the back of your car, just like at the races.
But, but why? you ask? It's as much about driving as it is about the car. I'll let professional race car driver and National Solo champion Randy Pobst explain Why Understeer is Your Friend
On the car side: If you think Frankenduster is speaking from a unique point of view, Steve will tell you from personal experience on that very track. I can tell you from personal experience on roadways (I was younger once). Mike Ritz can tell you from personal experience racing a '66. The list goes on... With the a-bodies, start with no rear bar for high speed. Then as decide if adding a little bar (soft) is wanted.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/04/1704:30 PM
More on driving Tipping, flipping and even occassionally driving over cones with the wheels will happen. You've got to come as close as possible to some of the key cones to make the distance shorter and the turns smooth.
Center punching cones is bad. There's a few causes and indicates potential problems on a high speed, higher risk track.
1. Looking at the cones. The car will go where you look. You must look ahead to where you want the car to go. 2. Course is unclear. The most important thing to do at any event is learn the course. Knowing where to go makes it much easier to look ahead. 3. Overdriving the front wheels. Timing the right amount of speed, braking and power is the goal. Too much speed in any turn, and autocrosses are all turns, and the car goes straight because the front tires are overloaded. A slalom is the one place where it is more likely that too much speed will not centerpunch a cone. In a slalom, too much speed more often results in fishtail and around you go.
Looking where you want the car to go is really really important to learn to do. It helps driving and just as important it will help when crashing. After all, you don't want to crash into the tree , but the hopefully safer grassy area next to the trees. Pobst "On Being a Good Crasher"
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/04/1704:57 PM
Yup. At the autocross practice one day the car got loose in the slalom and was fishtailing bad. Got the car straightened out and on around the course. One guy on the sidelines told me I was headed towards a light pole, and did I see it. I said "Yes, but I figured if I watched the pole I'd hit it, so I ignored it." That worked and I missed it.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/04/1705:37 PM
Gotchya. We can remove the bar on track day. Keeping my eyes looking ahead at the next turn is probably the most challenging part for me. At the next autocross, I'll probably try painter's taping the bottom of my winshield to force me to look ahead.
I spun my Scion out at Willow last year. I had stickier tires up front. Same concept with the sway bars.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/05/1705:33 AM
BBQ and beer Wednesday 2pm. Meet and unload the cars. Round table with other drivers, and BS session headed up by Chrysler Chassis and Race Engineer Bill Surber, liaison to Richard Petty Enterprises from 1968-1976...and on , and on.
Car List: 1958 Plymouth Hardtop, Phoenix '15 Hellcat '17 Viper '64 Nova '73 Cuda '70 Challenger ZR1 Vette '15 Challenger '69 Daytona '70 Cuda '69 AMX 911 Turbo S '73 Charger 911 S '67 Coronet, Oklahoma '12 Challenger '15 Mustang Gt '16 Z06 Ferrari Modena '68 Dart GT ready to rock '95 Mustang Daytona Coupe '69 Camaro Hertz rent-a-racer '70 TA Challenger '70 Chevelle Comp Coupe Viper GT3 Comp Coupe Viper Hellcat Audi TT Audi TT quattro '12 VW GTI '68 Valiant "Red Brick" '65 Dart, Vancouver, Wa '66 Dart '69 AMX '16 Z06
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/05/1702:27 PM
In regard to looking ahead, I am coming from a background in sportbike racing, but the concepts carry over.
On the straight, I would be looking at the corner entry, once I entered the corner I was focused on the apex, then the corner exit, then the entry for the next turn. Keeping your point of focus as far forward as possibly really helps slow everything down and helps you get set up. This is not to say I wasn't paying attention to brake markers, traffic, surface features, etc. with my periphery, but my focus was always very far ahead.
Have fun! I'm jealous...weather hasn't warmed up enough for anything here yet...I have to live through you guys
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/06/1703:16 AM
Originally Posted By autoxcuda
I'm gonna bring my 4 pad Longacre digital scales.
So I can weigh your Mopar's weight balance
Hey Steve
If you weigh a few cars and if the owners are in agreement could you post the weights. I along with others, I'm sure would be interested to see some of the weights.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/06/1704:39 AM
Originally Posted By gold66cuda
Originally Posted By autoxcuda
I'm gonna bring my 4 pad Longacre digital scales.
So I can weigh your Mopar's weight balance
Hey Steve
If you weigh a few cars and if the owners are in agreement could you post the weights. I along with others, I'm sure would be interested to see some of the weights.
Mine is 3190 with LOTS of mods.
Absolutely.
I was planning on taking pics of scale readings and car to quickly and digitally database results.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/06/1706:40 AM
Originally Posted By autoxcuda
Originally Posted By gold66cuda
Originally Posted By autoxcuda
I'm gonna bring my 4 pad Longacre digital scales.
So I can weigh your Mopar's weight balance
Hey Steve
If you weigh a few cars and if the owners are in agreement could you post the weights. I along with others, I'm sure would be interested to see some of the weights.
Mine is 3190 with LOTS of mods.
Absolutely.
I was planning on taking pics of scale readings and car to quickly and digitally database results.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/06/1704:42 PM
I have some friends moving to that part of California this summer so I'm going to make it down for Spring Fling in the next few years......this year I'm going to go to Drag Week....not very corner like of me ...sorry.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/06/1708:19 PM
Originally Posted By amxautox
Is that the Red Brick?
Yep. I sold it last fall. It's finally back where it belongs. Not sitting in my garage. Hopefully, we'll get to see some good video of it on the track!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1703:54 AM
Originally Posted By Frankenduster
Is that YOU Evan ?? Not going to make it to any of the events?
Yup that's me, no would have loved to again and made some loose plans to but just to much on going on up here to break way for a week. Try again next year.
Hope it went well for the guys, looked like a big field of great cars!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1705:24 AM
Originally Posted By gold66cuda
Originally Posted By Frankenduster
Is that YOU Evan ?? Not going to make it to any of the events?
Yup that's me, no would have loved to again and made some loose plans to but just to much on going on up here to break way for a week. Try again next year.
Hope it went well for the guys, looked like a big field of great cars!
Need some more pics Steve!!
Just got back and settled before I got to get stuff ready for tomorrow's setup day.
BUT for you Evan and scaled a TON of cars out there today. I lost count. Maybe even 20 ! Have pics of readings. Need to get car info written down to make numbers meaningful.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1705:51 AM
Here are some pics from me
360 miles for me to get home and I manage to make it 90% of the way. It started pouring rain the last hour of my drive and eventually the car started to hydroplane in traffic super scary! I said screw it and pulled over 36 miles away from home at a gas station to get a tow haha! Waiting for the tow truck now haha
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1707:11 AM
Originally Posted By RylisPro
Here are some pics from me
360 miles for me to get home and I manage to make it 90% of the way. It started pouring rain the last hour of my drive and eventually the car started to hydroplane in traffic super scary! I said screw it and pulled over 36 miles away from home at a gas station to get a tow haha! Waiting for the tow truck now haha
Better safe than sorry!
Ariel, that is strictly incredible. That's guts, that's determination.
No interior, no windshield wipers, race seat with not much padding, race stiff suspension...
Those Hot Rod "Drag Week" cars are p@ssy's compared to what Ariel just did. But ONLY in comparison.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1707:20 AM
Hey guys I made it back home. I didn't take the tow truck, the rain let up a little and I just went for it. Was able to make it back in one piece no problems and at least the rain washed all the bugs off the car for me haha! One of the dumbest things I have ever done in my life but sure makes for a good story haha!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1707:20 PM
Glad to see you made it Ariel! I had to deal with rain snow, washed out lines on the road, definitely some white knuckled driving while towing a trailer! This was before things got bad and the weather was fighting to get over the Sierras.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1709:48 PM
Originally Posted By NV69B7RR
Glad to see you made it Ariel! I had to deal with rain snow, washed out lines on the road, definitely some white knuckled driving while towing a trailer! This was before things got bad and the weather was fighting to get over the Sierras.
Was this on the way there or did you go home last night?
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/07/1710:22 PM
I left yesterday about 1/2hr after Ariel did. Once he told me it was raining in Concord I knew it would be over the hill soon enough, and I had 8000ft passes to deal with. I hope theres video of the straight away run too! I left the 2:94's in it. 3:23's would have been about perfect for that track.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/08/1702:24 AM
Sorry, I've been lagging. It's been a really long couple of days and I am beat. Took the Dart through Angeles Crest Highway Wednesday night after a full day of work and school. Pretty fun but took it easy as I was driving an unknown, winding road at night. Plus I had tools in the back. Stayed at a motel that by far had the most uncomfortable sleeping arrangements ever. To think people actually steal pillows from this place.
Got to Willow Springs... Had the driver's meeting, novice school, and went out to race. I only did two run sessions as I didn't want to kill the car and I was machining tires. I spun off course twice at turn 3 during my first session. The second was almost a 3 car pile up but luckily my car rolled off course. That may have been filmed. We'll see if Tim posts it up in a couple of weeks or if it makes it in one of the magazines.
Overall the Dart did great. I did the lunch time drags which was fun. Almost lost to a Ram 3500 because I decided to do an 1/8 mile burnout to make things more interesting. The WOT on the Dart is awesome and she really moves down the straight. Once I hit about 4500 RPM the engine just takes things to a whole new level and kicks you in the butt into overdrive. Basically in 4th gear the car goes from 85... 90... 95... 120!!! I did drag race a Hellcat, he got me slightly off the line and I had to slowly ease into 1st and 2nd so I wouldn't spin the tires. He beat me by a car length or two.
One lap of Willow Springs in a Hellcat. Hellcat reels in a Lotus Elise and Samy in his 1968 Dart (and all three reel in a 911 along the way), but not before Samy impressively hits about 130mph on the main straight.
Note that this is not a race, but a gentlemanly Track Day where passing is restricted to three specific areas of the course.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/10/1704:38 AM
Thanks for posting the video! That lotus spun right in front of coming off of turn 4-5. That whole passing in certain areas sure went out the window quick. By far the best battle I saw was the short stretch off 2 going into 3. The Daytona and the Mustang were going at it right behind me in turn 2, so I let em go by on the right side coming out of 2...they drag raced into the corner, with Mustang and lots of smoke coming out of it go off turn 3 into the dirt and narrowing missing the Daytona. He blew his engine when he lost it apparently trying to out run the Daytona. That was the first few laps in the first session. I wish I had video of that!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/10/1705:14 AM
Originally Posted By NV69B7RR
Thanks for posting the video! That lotus spun right in front of coming off of turn 4-5. That whole passing in certain areas sure went out the window quick. By far the best battle I saw was the short stretch off 2 going into 3. Daytona and the Mustang were going at it right behind me in turn 2, so I let em go by on the right coming out of 2...the drag race into the corner, with Mustang and lots of smoke coming out of go off 3 into the dirt and narrowing missing the Daytona. He blew his engine when he lost it apparently trying to out run the Daytona. That was the first few laps in the first session. I wish I had video of that!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/10/1704:52 PM
Don't know about track photographers, but I have more dashcam and in-car gopro footage than any sane person would want to sit through.
I will try in the next week to edit down or otherwise compress some of the more interesting parts (but I guess others will have to be the judge on that point).
They will all be on the HeckCat channel on youtube, but I will post links in this thread, too.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/10/1709:03 PM
Originally Posted By NV69B7RR
Thanks for posting the video! That lotus spun right in front of coming off of turn 4-5. That whole passing in certain areas sure went out the window quick. By far the best battle I saw was the short stretch off 2 going into 3. Daytona and the Mustang were going at it right behind me in turn 2, so I let em go by on the right coming out of 2...the drag race into the corner, with Mustang and lots of smoke coming out of go off 3 into the dirt and narrowing missing the Daytona. He blew his engine when he lost it apparently trying to out run the Daytona. That was the first few laps in the first session. I wish I had video of that!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/10/1709:13 PM
Video from a Porsche GT3 that has our Mopar in a it:
Samy is at the 4:40 mark or so..
At 7:25 the Daytona blows the doors off the Porsche !! And the guy posts a comment that is a 72 Superbird that was an ex-Cup car. And that is was driven ex Nascar pro.
. . . It's a clone car Sean Machado built in his garage. He is not a pro. Sean was in Diapers in 1972.
Published on Apr 10, 2017 2017 Spring Fling Speed Festival at Willow Springs (track day).
27 minutes of track time, compressed into three and a half minutes of viewing time. Spend less of your life getting an idea of what can be seen in the full version, or to make suggestions on what section(s) you might like to see edited down (leave a comment).
Statistics: 13 laps 11 passes 2 passers
Narrative: Ran two laps and came up behind a huge clump that would have taken half the session to get straightened out, so pulled off and re-entered the track for better spacing. Was content to run much of the session hanging behind a green Challenger that was slower but driven more proficiently. Being the first run of the day, there was no need to pass him, and then perhaps hang HIM up in the corners.
Passed UNDER YELLOW by a testosterone-laden millennial in his Ford Fiesta, and later by Sean in his Daytona.
Published on Apr 10, 2017 2017 Spring Fling Speed Festival at Willow Springs (track day).
25 minutes of track time, compressed into three minutes of viewing time. Spend less of your life getting an idea of what can be seen in the full version, or to make suggestions on what section(s) you might like to see edited down (leave a comment).
Statistics: 13 laps 13 passes 2 passers
Narrative: Was doing the best I could to keep up with a nimble Porsche Cayman GTS who had a SLIGHT cornering advantage against my lumbering 4600 lbs of car + driver. In addition to letting the Cayman by, a seriously prepped Mustang driven by a serious driver also went by.
* Note that I am owning up to this in a preemptive attempt to take the wind out of the sails of certain members who might take the opportunity to poke a bit of fun at the guy in the blue car.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/12/1708:05 PM
Originally Posted By NV69B7RR
I'm in! I quit my job 3 days earlier than planned so I could go. If anybody needs something large from Summit Racing brought down PM me, I have semi empty truck. See ya Wed afternoon
Nice picture of the Red Brick. Last time Tim had that car at Spring Fling was a few years back. I think he was running the 360 with Eddy heads at the time. The new 427 should push it around the track a little harder than the old 360!
Published on Apr 12, 2017 2017 Spring Fling Speed Festival at Willow Springs (track day).
10 minutes of track time. Note that there is another version of this video, compressed into just over one minute of viewing time. Make suggestions on what section(s) you might like to see edited down (leave a comment).
Statistics: 5 laps 2 passes 1 passers
Narrative: Uneventful, short session. As with sessions 1 & 2, I had the center infotainment screen set to engine specs (horsepower, torque, boost, etc.) Watch sessions 4 and 5 to see the G-force screen, instead.
Published on Apr 12, 2017 2017 Spring Fling Speed Festival at Willow Springs (track day).
26 minutes of track time. Center infotainment screen is set to show G-forces. Note that there are two other versions of this session. One is this same gopro angle, compressed into four minutes of viewing time. The other is a slightly compressed 10 minute version as seen through the eyes of a dashcam with timestamps ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbWUxIhLvI ) that provides on-screen captions, trying to explain (excuse?) how a sensible person can run out of gas on a race track.
Statistics: laps: 12 (okay... call it 11.5) passes: 2 passers: 2 out of gas at the side of the track: only once
Published on Apr 12, 2017 2017 Spring Fling Speed Festival at Willow Springs (track day).
26+ minutes of track time. Note that there is another [compressed] version of this video at 8x speed, so it can be viewed in much less time (3:20) . Make suggestions on what section(s) you might like to see edited down (leave a comment).
Statistics: 14 laps 6 passes 1 passer 1 James Bond smoke screen
Narrative: Final session of the day, with light participation. The center infotainment screen is set to see the G-forces. Initially, I am content to see how well I can stay with the Cayman GTS, which is much better in the corners. I succeed in staying with him for a number of laps, despite his attempt to "leave me in the dust" (literally). Later, I follow Tim's car (I later find out he was not at the wheel) to watch his lines through the corners. After a few laps, I pass, and effectively have the track to myself.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/13/1705:47 PM
Originally Posted By Frankenduster
Who was responsible for the smoke screen ?
It was more of a James Bond dust screen.
Early in the session (3:45), the Cayman GTS just kissed the dirt on the left edge of the track going wide exiting turn 9 into the front straight. He recovered, but not before leaving a large dust cloud for me to drive through. Given the choice between a dust cloud or a spun/flipped Porsche in front of me, I will choose the former, thank you.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/13/1708:44 PM
I had trouble on turn 9 in 2015. I kept turning in too early and too fast, then ran wide to the edge and wasn't able to get on the power until I was through the turn. I hit 115 in the straight. An instructor drove a few laps and hit 122 simply from better driving and a later corner entry.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/13/1709:05 PM
It was my first time on a road course. Pretty humbling experience, actually. I thought that I was a decent driver until the instructor drove the car and went faster through the course by a fair margin.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/13/1709:08 PM
First time, well that is a VERY big and ligitement excuse. hahaha. With #9's decreasing radius corner, yes stay wide as it'll surprise you how fast the corner exit will turn in on you, and you'll find yourself outside in the dirt.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/14/1712:38 AM
This is the aftermath of my passenger front tire after braking hard from 135 mph to avoid rear ending a 68 Barracuda! Flat-spotted to hell and all the rubber went up in smoke!
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/14/1704:03 AM
Originally Posted By Frankenduster
I had trouble on turn 9 in 2015. I kept turning in too early and too fast, then ran wide to the edge and wasn't able to get on the power until I was through the turn. I hit 115 in the straight. An instructor drove a few laps and hit 122 simply from better driving and a later corner entry.
I'm pretty sure I hit 110 mph in my Scion last year.
Re: Spring Fling Speed Festival XI, Thursday, April 6th, 2017 - 04/15/1706:00 AM
The Teal one was really nice and very tastefully modified, control freak suspension, etc. It ran pretty good, a father and son had it out. The Black one broke on the instructor warm up laps, not sure what happened, I wished it ran more. Both were AMC powered too.
* Note that I am owning up to this in a preemptive attempt to take the wind out of the sails of certain members who might take the opportunity to poke a bit of fun at the guy in the blue car.