Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 12:18 AM

I'm trying to find cheap bigger wheels- new or used, aftermarket or some OEM - to put on my '67 Coronet wagon.

I'd like to stick with 16 or 17 inch wheels to retain some sidewall for comfort.

I've considered some Mustang or Panther wheels but I'm not sure how they work clearance/offset-wise on my car. Most Ford wheels I've seen on A-bodies don't have enough negative offset to not look out of place on a bigger car like mine, IMO.

Same thing with a lot of general aftermarket wheels and even later-model OE Charger/Challenger wheels - too much offset, no rim lip, looks goofy (I've seen B-bodies with the lower-end Challenger blocky five spokes and it doesn't do it for me at all).

This is what my car looks like now on 15s with small hubcaps - I really dig how it looks, but 215/75s...

I like upsized Torq Thrust-type wheels like this... but I also don't want to run straight to Torq Thrusts since everyone and their dog goes for that style at some point.

So my goals are: cheap (around $1000 for a set tops), works with the body style, decent street tire selection. I'm asking because so far I've only been able to figure out what DOESN'T look good, and this particular forum is more open-minded than ye olde Mopar Or No Car hardliners :P

What do you think I should consider? If hub bores or brake rotors need to be trimmed some to fit that's NBD.

Posted By: PHJ426

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 01:08 AM

http://www.vintagewheelworks.com/products/wheels

The V40 or V45 would look great on your wagon. 16x7 or 16 x 8 wheel size gets you under $1000 for 4.

Plenty of pics on the website of older cars with their wheels on them check it out.

I don't know what fits in those 66 and 67 B body cars.

Posted By: 68cuda440

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 01:41 AM

I think the American Racing Salt Flat rims would look really good on that car, but they run about $330 each.

These are 17" steel wheels under $200 each. With primer, ready to paint. Paint it white, put a baby moon cap on it and go. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wvi-14-7712458/overview/
17x7 4.625 in backspacing, should fit your car fine.

225/60-17 are plentiful, fit on a 7" wheel, and are 27.6" tall (about same height as current tire). They have plenty of sidewall and would look good on the wagon. If you want a little less sidewall, the 225s are available in 55, 50, and 45 series.

Do you know the current wheel size and backspacing?

Michael
Plano, Tx

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 08:19 AM

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I think the American Racing Salt Flat rims would look really good on that car, but they run about $330 each.

These are 17" steel wheels under $200 each. With primer, ready to paint. Paint it white, put a baby moon cap on it and go. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wvi-14-7712458/overview/
17x7 4.625 in backspacing, should fit your car fine.

225/60-17 are plentiful, fit on a 7" wheel, and are 27.6" tall (about same height as current tire). They have plenty of sidewall and would look good on the wagon. If you want a little less sidewall, the 225s are available in 55, 50, and 45 series.

Do you know the current wheel size and backspacing?

Michael
Plano, Tx

I believe they're 15x6s, I only know that they're off of some kind of Dodge truck. They have 3 lobes around the hubcap ring and a smooth inner lug/hub area if that places them at all.

I'm probably going to run at least 235s or 235s/245s at a minimum. 215s are too narrow for a car that weighs two tons that'll be driven the way I want to drive it :P

I do really like those Salt Flat wheels. I've considered them off and on - I'm not sure if they'd still look good keyed white to the car or left gray either way. They do look pretty fitting on 60s cars in 16 inch size:

I also have found a few sets of 2405-style newer wheels for sale. I can't find any recent Mopar wheels on older Mopars (in general) - do any styles from any late 2000s cars look good?

Posted By: topbrent

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 09:24 AM

Coy C5 Wheels are nice and relatively inexpensive.
~ $175.00 each

http://www.coyswheel.com/coys.html

https://picasaweb.google.com/jc78c09

Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 07:36 PM

Motech Performance sells some 17 and 18" Streeter wheels for about $600 a set you can use.

Posted By: pauly v.100

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 08:25 PM

I really like the painted wheel/poverty cap look. have you considered having 16 or 17 inch rims mated to your existing centers? can't be that expensive and would look killer.

Posted By: feets

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 08:26 PM

Go to www.mhtwheels.com and check out the US Mags offerings. There are some nice wheels at decent prices.

I've dealt with MHT through work for several years. They have good stuff and fair prices.

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 09:48 PM

A friend just pointed me to Year One's upsized Rallye wheels:

https://www.yearone.com/Product/wheels/mrw178slvs

What do you guys think? I always thought standard-sized ones wouldn't look quite right on my car but bigger ones might look pretty cool.

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 09:57 PM

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I really like the painted wheel/poverty cap look. have you considered having 16 or 17 inch rims mated to your existing centers? can't be that expensive and would look killer.

I'd like to be able to keep my current caps if I stay with steelies. The upsized cop rims out there look cool on the blockier 80s cars but I don't like the bigger caps on older Mopars. I really would like to like those upsized Wheel Vintiques smoothies, but I think their look is better suited to kind of greaser/street rod style cars.

If I could find four-slot 17 inch steelies that took my caps that'd be perfect. I could always paint the outer edge of the rim black if they looked too big.

Posted By: boydsdodge

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/05/14 11:17 PM

Why are you wanting bigger rims?
I went 17s on one of my wagons and after driving it a summer I wasn't so sure anymore. I live in an urban area with lots of street car tracks, pot holes, bike riders, etc...
felt them all hard.
On my next wagon I stayed with 15" rims looks better feels better
and the car handles great with the help of a bunch of firm feel parts and the 15x7 and 15x8 wheels
245/60,15 front and 275/60,15 rear.

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Posted By: pauly v.100

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/06/14 02:54 AM

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I really like the painted wheel/poverty cap look. have you considered having 16 or 17 inch rims mated to your existing centers? can't be that expensive and would look killer.

I'd like to be able to keep my current caps if I stay with steelies. The upsized cop rims out there look cool on the blockier 80s cars but I don't like the bigger caps on older Mopars. I really would like to like those upsized Wheel Vintiques smoothies, but I think their look is better suited to kind of greaser/street rod style cars.

If I could find four-slot 17 inch steelies that took my caps that'd be perfect. I could always paint the outer edge of the rim black if they looked too big.

You can keep the caps.
http://www.rallyamerica.com/Original_Centered_Wheels.html

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/06/14 10:27 AM

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Why are you wanting bigger rims?
I went 17s on one of my wagons and after driving it a summer I wasn't so sure anymore. I live in an urban area with lots of street car tracks, pot holes, bike riders, etc...
felt them all hard.
On my next wagon I stayed with 15" rims looks better feels better
and the car handles great with the help of a bunch of firm feel parts and the 15x7 and 15x8 wheels
245/60,15 front and 275/60,15 rear. [/quote

Tire choices - I'm not autocrossing the thing but I want it to handle. 15 inch tires tall enough for a car this big don't come in very good choices for that. PLus the giant sidewalls don't help much.

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/06/14 10:27 AM

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I really like the painted wheel/poverty cap look. have you considered having 16 or 17 inch rims mated to your existing centers? can't be that expensive and would look killer.

I'd like to be able to keep my current caps if I stay with steelies. The upsized cop rims out there look cool on the blockier 80s cars but I don't like the bigger caps on older Mopars. I really would like to like those upsized Wheel Vintiques smoothies, but I think their look is better suited to kind of greaser/street rod style cars.

If I could find four-slot 17 inch steelies that took my caps that'd be perfect. I could always paint the outer edge of the rim black if they looked too big.

You can keep the caps.
http://www.rallyamerica.com/Original_Centered_Wheels.html [/quote

But I want bigger diameter wheels, not just bigger 15s.

Posted By: boydsdodge

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/06/14 04:00 PM

I am using Maxxis Marauder tires.
They have a stiffer side wall and lower tread wear rating then regular M/S tires
also have good sizes.

Posted By: Pool Fixer

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/07/14 01:11 AM

Another vote for Coys. They are cast one pieces so no custom offsets but the stock sizes are right for muscle cars. I have about $1000.00 into these incuding the tires. 18x9.5 rear, 17x8 front

Id stay away from any cheap wheel thats chromed. Go polished aluminum. Even if the shine isnt that great you can fix it. Cant fix peelng chrome.

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Posted By: roadhazard

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/07/14 04:23 AM

I am also a fan of the Salt Flats

However I just saw these the other day. Have not checked to see all what is offered
http://www.jegs.com/p/Hurst/Hurst-Dazzler-Wheels/2970945/10002/-1

Posted By: jon01

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/07/14 07:34 PM

I have a set of 17" Stockton steelies on my wagon, 17x8 with 245/45/17 in front, and 17x10 with 315/35/17 in back.
They will take the same hubcap your wagon currently has on it.
I've been thinking about making a change, if you're interested let me know.
Mine handles fantastic with bigger t-bars and sway bars f/r. 25mph ramps at 45-50, it just hunkers down and goes.

Posted By: Pool Fixer

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/08/14 12:28 AM

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I have a set of 17" Stockton steelies on my wagon, 17x8 with 245/45/17 in front, and 17x10 with 315/35/17 in back.
They will take the same hubcap your wagon currently has on it.
I've been thinking about making a change, if you're interested let me know.
Mine handles fantastic with bigger t-bars and sway bars f/r. 25mph ramps at 45-50, it just hunkers down and goes.

I dig steelies... do you have a pic of the 17's?

Posted By: jrlegacy23

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/09/14 03:52 AM

I have JD Wheels, I had them price matched through jegs for $130 a piece for the 17x7s on the front, the 18x8s where $150 each.

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Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/10/14 09:18 PM

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I have a set of 17" Stockton steelies on my wagon, 17x8 with 245/45/17 in front, and 17x10 with 315/35/17 in back.
They will take the same hubcap your wagon currently has on it.
I've been thinking about making a change, if you're interested let me know.
Mine handles fantastic with bigger t-bars and sway bars f/r. 25mph ramps at 45-50, it just hunkers down and goes.

That sounds interesting to me. PM'd you!

Posted By: Sneke_Eyez

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/16/14 05:52 PM

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I have a set of 17" Stockton steelies on my wagon, 17x8 with 245/45/17 in front, and 17x10 with 315/35/17 in back.
They will take the same hubcap your wagon currently has on it.
I've been thinking about making a change, if you're interested let me know.
Mine handles fantastic with bigger t-bars and sway bars f/r. 25mph ramps at 45-50, it just hunkers down and goes.

Count me in on wanting pictures of these on your wagon!

I'm watching this thread closely - the 14s on my 69 Satellite Wagon will be getting changed off sooner than later!

Posted By: TC@HP2

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/16/14 07:37 PM

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I have a set of 17" Stockton steelies on my wagon, 17x8 with 245/45/17 in front, and 17x10 with 315/35/17 in back.

Good grief. I shudder to think what those must weigh. 50#+ each or so.

Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/17/14 06:02 PM

Someone needs to make 16" or 17" steelie look in aluminum to accept the caps. Make it with the thicker "step" as in the 450 wheels. I think they would look great.

Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/17/14 09:12 PM

I think a nostalgic SS look would blend well like some these fro Team III. Cheap they are not, but they are'nt over priced either. Some wheels from Vintage Wheel Works would be cool to.
http://www.team3wheels.com/
http://www.vintagewheelworks.com/

Posted By: BigBlockMopar

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/17/14 09:58 PM

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Someone needs to make 16" or 17" steelie look in aluminum to accept the caps. ...

Someone needs to make 15" to 17" wheels with the steelie look in aluminum. Period.

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/18/14 12:51 AM

I'm buying Jon's 17" wheels off of his wagon when he gets his replacements figured out.
Not the lightest I'm sure, but they get me set up for good & relatively cheap tires. Plus I have zero qualms about how they'll look on my car� everything else in my price range I felt kind of iffy about at best.

Posted By: VL21

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/18/14 04:27 AM

The '66-67 rear wheel well is very restrictive, on a '66 Belvedere 4dr winter beater I had once a factory 15x8 Ramcharger/pickup wouldn't work on the rear, and just as a guess, the wagon openings aren't much different.

The '68-70 well is much bigger.

I am guessing from the look you have the late '80s M body, 15x7 wheels on there now. Dippy cop car wheels are identical but with slots.

Don't know, just sayin' ...

Posted By: dangina

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/18/14 09:09 PM

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Someone needs to make 16" or 17" steelie look in aluminum to accept the caps. ...

Someone needs to make 15" to 17" wheels with the steelie look in aluminum. Period.

to add to this I wish they made the aluminum version of D window steel wheels

Posted By: Secret Chimp

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/19/14 01:04 AM

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The '66-67 rear wheel well is very restrictive, on a '66 Belvedere 4dr winter beater I had once a factory 15x8 Ramcharger/pickup wouldn't work on the rear, and just as a guess, the wagon openings aren't much different.

The '68-70 well is much bigger.

I am guessing from the look you have the late '80s M body, 15x7 wheels on there now. Dippy cop car wheels are identical but with slots.

Don't know, just sayin' ...

Well I'm adding around 3-3.5 inches in rim width and I'm going to use a 275 width tire vs the 215s I have now. I did some really rough measurements and I have around 2 inches between the sidewall and the outer fenderwell and 2.5-3 toward the inner well & spring.

The only solid comparison I could find was Hotchkis' 67 Coronet coupe they put all of their TVS stuff on back in 2009. They used 8 inch wide wheels with 255s in the rear for that one.

I don't know what the BS of these things is (yet), but if the width change is more or less equal inside to outside I'd think I'll be fine.

Posted By: Pale_Roader

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/19/14 09:51 AM

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Someone needs to make 16" or 17" steelie look in aluminum to accept the caps. ...

Someone needs to make 15" to 17" wheels with the steelie look in aluminum. Period.

And NOT screw it up.

I've seen it done right once. Out ov probably a dozen different attempts. I must have seen it in a magazine because if it'd been online i'd have every pic available, but i dont. They were 18's and they looked about as good as possible, thinking a nice 8 outta 10. They actually looked good enough that it looked weird to see such a big steelie . Made the car look smaller. So one way or another, it will never look 100% right with excellent handling, but you shoot for the best you can do.

I have a cunning plan... on how to do it the best way, should i ever trip over a hockey bag full ov hundred dollar bills... until then, its aftermarket.

Posted By: dangina

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/19/14 03:25 PM

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Someone needs to make 16" or 17" steelie look in aluminum to accept the caps. ...

Someone needs to make 15" to 17" wheels with the steelie look in aluminum. Period.

And NOT screw it up.

I've seen it done right once. Out ov probably a dozen different attempts. I must have seen it in a magazine because if it'd been online i'd have every pic available, but i dont. They were 18's and they looked about as good as possible, thinking a nice 8 outta 10. They actually looked good enough that it looked weird to see such a big steelie . Made the car look smaller. So one way or another, it will never look 100% right with excellent handling, but you shoot for the best you can do.

I have a cunning plan... on how to do it the best way, should i ever trip over a hockey bag full ov hundred dollar bills... until then, its aftermarket.

I here ya, but if I trip over that same bag I'd probably do a custom set of hurricane/vector wheels, the price quote I got was 15 grand for a set of 18's

Posted By: jrlegacy23

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/19/14 04:07 PM

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I here ya, but if I trip over that same bag I'd probably do a custom set of hurricane/vector wheels, the price quote I got was 15 grand for a set of 18's

Maybe you could set up a group buy and get them for $14,800.... just a thought.

Posted By: PHJ426

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/19/14 07:27 PM

Have them made offshore. Probably will pay more in shipping the container back from China than to have them made.

Posted By: redmist

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/20/14 05:13 AM

These are 17x10 rear, and 17x8 front Coys C-55's

not a bad price, I like the look.

Posted By: sublimehemi

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/26/14 05:09 PM

Well My opinion nothing looks ad cool ad the yo wheeels

Posted By: sublimehemi

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/26/14 05:11 PM

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Posted By: FuryBoy

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 05/29/14 09:20 AM

I like the Ansen Sprints. I think Year one sells the 17x7s for $165 per wheel.

Posted By: jon01

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 06/19/14 06:27 PM

Sold the wheels to Charlie, I hope he can get them under his car, it'll look great with them!

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Count me in on wanting pictures of these on your wagon!

I'm watching this thread closely - the 14s on my 69 Satellite Wagon will be getting changed off sooner than later!

Sorry for the late response, here is the only pic I have of it handy.

It will be getting Billet Specialties Dagger G's with M/T 295/45/17 DR's in back so a bit more sidewall.

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I have a set of 17" Stockton steelies on my wagon, 17x8 with 245/45/17 in front, and 17x10 with 315/35/17 in back.

Good grief. I shudder to think what those must weigh. 50#+ each or so.

The rears are heavy but not as heavy as you would think. The 15x10's/37's I had on my Scout were much heavier.
Too heavy? Just add HP and brakes to compensate!

Posted By: AlexP

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 06/19/14 06:34 PM

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Sold the wheels to Charlie, I hope he can get them under his car, it'll look great with them!

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Count me in on wanting pictures of these on your wagon!

I'm watching this thread closely - the 14s on my 69 Satellite Wagon will be getting changed off sooner than later!

Sorry for the late response, here is the only pic I have of it handy.

It will be getting Billet Specialties Dagger G's with M/T 295/45/17 DR's in back so a bit more sidewall.

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I have a set of 17" Stockton steelies on my wagon, 17x8 with 245/45/17 in front, and 17x10 with 315/35/17 in back.

Good grief. I shudder to think what those must weigh. 50#+ each or so.

The rears are heavy but not as heavy as you would think. The 15x10's/37's I had on my Scout were much heavier.
Too heavy? Just add HP and brakes to compensate!

I cant find them on their site, how much are they?

Posted By: jon01

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 06/19/14 07:48 PM

The steelies? They are no longer made, I got these from a guy on here probably 6-7 years ago, not sure how long he had had them before.

Posted By: Sneke_Eyez

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 06/20/14 08:56 PM

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Sold the wheels to Charlie, I hope he can get them under his car, it'll look great with them!

Sorry for the late response, here is the only pic I have of it handy.

It will be getting Billet Specialties Dagger G's with M/T 295/45/17 DR's in back so a bit more sidewall.

Those look good on there!
I'm about to try on a set of 17'' steelies I picked up for one of my DDs that originally came on a Charger on my Wagon. Dunno if they'll fit or not, but I have them, so I'm going to try!

Posted By: jon01

Re: Cheap but not ugly upsized wheel options for B-body - 06/20/14 10:24 PM

Yeah, I liked em but wanted something a bit shinier. The car has nice brakes, might as well show them off.