2011 - SS/AH Super Stock

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WALK SOFTLY AND CARRY A BIG STICK!

welcome back Charlie! (I think)

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Thats a cool slogan. When we started on my dads car, I wanted to paint it flat black and call it the UGLY STICK, than put on the back "you just got beat with an ugly stick". My dad was not in love with that idea, so he decided on the tan camo.
We just pulled the motor out of his car, and mine is on the hoist now. It has been in the trailer since I got back from Valdosta. I am working on Lloyds while dad gets my motor ready to pull.

here is a link to my site with some new pics, I can upload them cause Missy has them on her computer.

http://hemimilitia.com/pg13.html

cw

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Spyphish - there are only 2 people on this board, that are old enough to remeber the name of that song --- You and Me

StewartP

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And you probably think it's about you. yea, I'm that old!!

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Any of you SS/AH guys coming to the Sportsnationals in LA? I plan on making the trip but I'm curious as to how many SS/AH cars would be there.

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I plan on going. Does not look like a money race so my guess is about 5 cars. Wendell is running well so maybe he will come up. Brooks? Jeff?

I have a $10k sponsor for Bowling Green Hot Rod Reunion but not much interest from the racers. Plus it is one week before the Mopar Action race at Maple Grove. Two in two weeks is rough. So I will probably tell them to keep their money. I heard it was HOT there last year but photos show a nice turnout.

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The old "Dairy Queen" car, owned by Ron Farmer. This car was on display last week at the Ohio Motorsports Expo. I am sure THE GLASS MAN can give the history.

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The car currently for sale by Ron Farmer is not the old dairy queen car,he sold that car a few years ago,the car currently for sale is a car that was built a few years ago by Tank Crosswhite .

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I ask Ron Farmer where this car came from and he is the one who told me this was the old Dairy Queen car. I had never even heard of a Dairy Queen car befeore he made mention of it. After looking at the car and seeing it was painted by Steve McCrery, I am inclined to believe it was a "Tank" car also BUT why did Farmer tell me this!!! This is how the car looked at that time a couple of weeks ago. I did not look at the vin.

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Nice job on the model

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I don't know? The paint looks to good. I think they use spray bomb primer on the real Warfish. [/qu


What's wrong with that, got my green primer spray bombs at Auto Zone.

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Chuck called me and said there was 5K up for belle rose, and my dad said he saw it on the computer somewhere. Is that true?

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In case any of you have been wondering why the "Frito Bandito" hasn't been posting; he was involved in a fatal crash at his job. He's okay but a father & son were killed. This has obviously made a huge impact on him. He should be back on board soon.
I for one have missed his humor.

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Glad to hear Frito is ok and sad to hear of the fatality

Russ

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Ditto

Joey

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is there any hope or what is the status of having a form of a hemi shootout at the martin ihra national race? is there anything racers can do to help this along? do we need to come up with sponsor money?

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I will contact Jason. I asked him about it earlier last year, than when I was over there testing one day, he aproached me to see if I could bring my hemi guys over there for their nitro jam race. I can probably get at least 5K in cash with one phone call. I havent persued it too much, cause I have been too busy. I think its a done deal if it doesnt conflict with any other dates.

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Reher Morrison have my backup motor "Chuckwheat" ready and so far redesigned "Thumper" (Hards old motor)should be done by Indy as well. My problem is at 1HP per pound I will not be able to pick up both motors on the same trip in my 1 ton dually.

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just a personal comment. i would like to see nhra allow hemi car's to run indy with no grade points and not qualify for super stock. owners choice. also i think weight's should be at 3170 for stick and slush box.lol. just watching the faster cars now.enjoy all the post's. have enjoyed these cars since 1967( the mopar project car at irwindale).68 hemi's rock. gary

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US Nationals

1) 18 SS/AH David Barton
2) 43 SS/AH Tim Hebert
3) 47 SS/AH Joe Teuton III
4) 138 SS/AH Wendell Howes
5) 148 SS/AH Larry Perkins Sr
6) 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake
7) 721 SS/AH Rick Houser
8) 100H SS/AH Tyler Hard
9) 1381 SS/AH Mark Howes
10) 1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels
11) 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz
12) 1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella
13) 1979 SS/AH John Baughman
14) 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott
15) 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr
16) 403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert
17) 4222 SS/AH Fred Henson

......as of 8:35am on Tuesday August 9,2011

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Hey, thanks for coming and trying to keep this class alive. We have a good purse and still less than 20?? Not good. As the Edmond Fitzgerald cook said "Fellas' been nice to know ya'".

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I've lost interest in the class. Only 2-3 cars have a real shot at winning it and it's crazy expensive to keep up with the engine builders that are always quicker than the customer cars. I think the Teutons are smarter and running a bracket engine and winning the eliminator and stop chasing the "Jr. Pro Stock" award. With the down economy, I think people ran out of money to put in the blackhole of SS/AH.

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Hey, thanks for coming and trying to keep this class alive. We have a good purse and still less than 20?? Not good.

Look over at A/SA stock. Big Daddy and 15 others will have a shootout and Detroit can sell those type cars on Monday. As the Edmond Fitzgerald cook said "Fellas' been nice to know ya'".

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The class will be just fine. Just going through a "lean" year is all. Still a big fan base, and sure it will be tough to compete against a few, but there never will be anything as cool as a HEMI Super Stocker. Yeah the Drag Paks are growing, but no way they will ever have the coolness of the Cudas and Darts.

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I would like to see the Hemi's run against the chevy's and ford's.

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Plain and simple no one made a more badass Super Stocker then Mopar.

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I'd love to agree with you but, they just re-factor your
package if you beat the Chevrolets too often. I'm really
surprised they let the HEMI be "Top Dog".

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The 68 HEMI's have always been top dog, even when they were "B" cars in '68. Even if NHRA refactored the GM's and Fords with carbs, to compete with the HEMI's, what would come close?

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Plan was to be at Indy this year, but got detoured. Had Roush build motor and it broke BAD on the 3rd pass at Cayuga. Trashed everything except intake, carbs, and valve covers. Other SS/AH racers have been supportive offering spare, but the budget I have only allows one motor purchase a year.

Should've listened to CWJ and Ray.

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US Nationals

1) 18 SS/AH David Barton
2) 43 SS/AH Tim Hebert
3) 47 SS/AH Joe Teuton III
4) 138 SS/AH Wendell Howes
5) 148 SS/AH Larry Perkins Sr
6) 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski
7) 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake
8) 452 SS/AH Steven Kent
9) 721 SS/AH Rick Houser
10) 100H SS/AH Tyler Hard
11) 1381 SS/AH Mark Howes
12) 1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels
13) 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz
14) 1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella
15) 1979 SS/AH John Baughman
16) 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott
17) 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr
18) 403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert
19) 4222 SS/AH Fred Henson
20) 4300 SS/AH Lloyd Wofford Jr
21) 5529 SS/AH Russ Campbell
22) 5583 SS/AH Dan Zrust

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Frito, How about this years poem. Time is running out! Last years version was right on!

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I don't even have a copy of the one from last year but I may come up with a few verses this week.

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Im crossing my fingers that they made enough power!!

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The wildest thing out of West Virginia, since Jesco White!

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That feller can dance.

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I talked to Line at BIR this weekend and he said the Bucky Hemi had started. He was going to run it this week, but I have not heard how things turned out. Anyone else hear anything? Dyno

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I congratulate THEM as well. Must be Briggs & Straton engines. One mows and weedeats one side of the ladder while the other does the other side. Hard working and fast team. Great final and all fans were on their feet. It was fun, thanks to all that came.

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X2. Also thanks to ( cuda ) Bluefish car on the great hospitality given to me at indy. Also great meeting you ( Taco) & talking. Fred Henson & Gary & Chris Bolton, John & Ben Holt- MY Buddy Big Jim Pancake & crew. Thanks for all the memories that i will keep forever in my heart.Also nice meeting & getting to talk to the Howes from new brunswick ,close to novia scotia where all my descendants are from. Again thanks to all & anybody ( Bales) else that i might have forgetten
fascat

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I was thinking some of the engine guys on here would have answered your good question by now. Cat got their fingers or writers block! So from the Village Idiot of Hemi:

The long rocker arm is on the exhaust side its not near the issue it would be if it was on the intake side. The exhaust rocker is aided in closing by the out going exhaust gasses. In a way, it has some help so the mass of the rocker on the exhaust side is not really an issue at all on the Hemi engines. It posses no problem what so ever to increasing the RPM range of the engine. Some Bob Glidden Pro Stock Ford Hemi engines turned well over 9500rpm with a similar length and far heavier weight rocker arm. We also have springs now days that handle much more than what we throw at them. The number one problem to increasing engine speed with a Super Stock Hemi is area. More precisely, valve area and port area. These engines are limited to a stock valve size and you can only fit so much air past a certain size valve.

That should bring them out!!!!!!

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Its all a big compromise. The lighter the rocker, the less valve spring needed to keep the valvetrain stable at high rpm. In the same respect, the straighter the pushrod, the less lift required to open the valve an equal amount (tangents). The rocker weight could be overcome with more spring pressure, but there is no real cure for bad geometry.

I would say for 11k rpm,keep the pushrods as straight as you can and thats unfortunately the rocker length you end up with. If you can alter the fulcrum point, keep a mild ratio. It sounds like you need a DOHC Hemi!

And where is Charlie?

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Deja Vu!!!!!!!

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Easy MONEY

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maybe you should take up fishing, you have a couple good boat anchors.

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That's the CW we know and love.

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Wasnt spyphish a warfish customer???

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Actually I do fish almost every day. Have a single digit golf handicap as well. My anchors will probably outrun your customers. And who knows, when I get the last IED you sold me removed this winter, may outrun you! Then we will rename her from Sledphish to Flying Pig.....

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Hey there Sledphish, anything pertaining to a sled should be sent to Sled City Fiberglass, up here in Columbus, Ohio, free of charge for use on the John Holt equipted 62 Plymouth station wagon called " WAR PIG ". Good luck next year with your Fish. Just kidding about the free stuff.

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maybe you should take up fishing, you have a couple good boat anchors.

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....he's back!

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Wolkwitz over Jeff. Congrats to all!!! Rumor has it several people were spotted doing the banana dance last night.

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Bet wasn't...

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! I got to spend some time with Larry Perkins also and have to say he is one classy guy. Spent some time with Bucky and his wife also and cant wait till hes back out. It was a great time and I'm hoping Jeff can get the win tomorrow. He doggone sure deserves it.

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X2 on all of that!

Shame that I was there and have to go over to www.hemishootout.net to see the highlights!

Nice to see a good car count, wish the weather would've been a little more favorable, but no real damage despite a pretty tricky track. Doug Walker has a great photo sequence of Wendell Howes getting a little loose. I had a pretty good view first hand of that one and excellent driving job and great photos!
http://hemishootout.net/index.php?option=com_morfeoshow&task=view&gallery=27

Doug also had the sequence of Davids mishap. Turned my stomach looking at them. And no he didn't post them. Doug is a class act! Could've been alot worse. Didn't see the car and didn't want to. Very tricky track. ALOT of cars all over the track. Comp, t/s and t/d ran 1/8 mile...

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I'm hoping Jeff can get the win tomorrow. He doggone sure deserves it.

what he had the slowest car there???