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2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock

Posted By: moparts

2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/09/09 10:05 PM

Looking forward to another year of improvements in SS/AH Racing

Past years threads in the Best Of Moparts


https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/09/09 10:29 PM

Cool I be first to post again !!!.Just luv them dang gone cars !
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 01:09 AM

.....notice anything "funny" in this picture?

Posted By: wldtm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 01:24 AM

"Jesel" sticker upside down???

Do I win anything?
Posted By: rvw

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 01:24 AM

Jesel sticker upside down????????????
Posted By: scottb

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 01:52 AM

That Barton car looks like the one sitting in my garage just mine does not have the hemi just a R5P7 motor
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 02:57 AM

Just got to make sure I get on the first page
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 02:59 AM

Quote:

.....notice anything "funny" in this picture?





The Barracuda has the wide scoop on again
Posted By: The Avg. Valiant

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 02:30 PM

There is a warning sign that says rhino crossing...really?!
Posted By: 3ddart

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 03:13 PM

Quote:

There is a warning sign that says rhino crossing...really?!


should say elephant crossing instead, lol dave
Posted By: camdog440

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 06:53 PM

The "Hemi Challenge" trophy is a piston... but not a Hemi piston.
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/10/09 11:32 PM

This is easy. It's Maple Grove and the sun is shining instead of pouring down rain.
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/11/09 12:35 PM

Quote:

The "Hemi Challenge" trophy is a piston... but not a Hemi piston.




its a hemi piston. look at the valve notch cut out of the side
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/11/09 01:30 PM

Quote:

Quote:

.....notice anything "funny" in this picture?





The Barracuda has the wide scoop on again




...I was noting the upside down Jessel sticker. I just love the little "jabs" you see in this class. Right up there with the "king cuda" target on car.

....but the "wide scoop" comment almost made my coffee go the opposite way!

Is anybody able to list the winners of the Hemi Shootouts since they started them at Indy oh so long ago?
Posted By: barabaracuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/12/09 12:45 AM

the cuda also has the sticker upside down on the quarters !
Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/13/09 01:24 AM

Quote:

The "Hemi Challenge" trophy is a piston... but not a Hemi piston.


The trophy does have a hemi piston. Look closer. All the trophys with the pistons are hemi. Of course Charlie's and Ray's may look a little different. or be a little lighter!!
Posted By: mr2performance

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/13/09 03:30 AM

Just got a call saying that engine building legend Joe Alread passed away today. Certainly one of the best engine builders of all time, and one of the greatest guys I have ever met. A true friend, RIP Joe. Mike
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/13/09 03:33 AM

sad news to say the least


Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/13/09 05:54 AM

Joe was a great man, RIP Joe
Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/13/09 06:11 AM

Here is the Mopars at the Strip details on the Hemi Shootout (Mopar is not sponsoring this event as of yet so its a Independent event)
SS/AH Hemi Super Stock Shootout
NHRA SS/AH Rules and Tech apply.
All cars must pass NHRA tech.
Qualifying will be on Friday, March 26, 2010, for qualifying ladder and the MCG/Painter Dodge Cup.
*MCG/Painter Dodge Quickest Super Stock Shoot-Out is for all ’68 Hemi Dart and ’68 Cudas. To have your name on the MCG Cup, you must out run everyone else and post an e.t. quicker than last year’s winner (Charlie Westcott Jr 8.735) If you can accomplish this while staying within NHRA SS/AH rules, your name goes on the MCG/Painter Dodge Cup. The Cup will be on display at the Cannery Hotel and Casino until next year’s event.
Run cards will have designated lanes on them for each qualifying run (R,L,R or L,R,L) to keep one lane from being better than the other.
Elimination and final rounds will be on Saturday, March 27, 2010.
* Competition will be set on a sportsman ladder based on Friday’s qualifying passes, racing heads up, no breakouts on a .500 tenths full tree.
Consultation bracket for those who have lost a round you are invited to participate in a continual grudge match race until an eventual winner is declared in the winner’s bracket (Chicago style).
Entry fee: TBA
e-mail moparsatthestrip@hotmail.com your race confirmation you will need prior to March 17th , 2010.
Purse: Based on 16 Cars Guaranteed
Winner: $6.000.00 (my mistake)
Runner Up: $1,500.00
Semi’s: $750.00
Quarters: $500.00
Entry Fee $500.00 per car, Crew members $75.00 each
Low e.t.: Cannery Cup
(16 car minimum)

Contact Information: Joe Jackson, nitrojoe@neo.rr.com, 419/994-4993; Phil Painter, moparsatthestrip@hotmail.com, 702/256-8254.
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/13/09 11:34 PM

Drag racing lost a good man. RIP Joe.
Posted By: outcast

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/15/09 08:27 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcV62lQfBOk
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/15/09 03:18 PM

RIP Joe

cool vid outcast.


and 75 buck each for crew members...that Just wrong...
Posted By: Phil Saran

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/17/09 03:20 AM

I have not seen or read much of anything on
Mike Booker from WA state this year. I had
seen his SS/AH Cuda for sale, but is he building
a new Challenger or something else??
Posted By: wldtm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/17/09 03:49 AM

Anyone know what happened to the car Bob Reed had built that Sox was supposed to drive a few years back? Was wondering what ever happened to that car?

Justin
Posted By: 383man

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/17/09 05:08 AM

Quote:

Anyone know what happened to the car Bob Reed had built that Sox was supposed to drive a few years back? Was wondering what ever happened to that car?

Justin




Yes a friend of mine here in Md owns it. Ron
Posted By: wldtm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/17/09 12:18 PM

is he currently running it or does he plan to run it?

thanks

justin
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/17/09 12:35 PM

Which car is he/did he sell? We built one a new SS/AH car for him that Barton finished. It was the car Bob WOlkwitz drove to the semi's at teh Dutch, going 8.39 @ 157.04. I hope he plans on tearing up the west coast with it!!!

Ben Holt
John Holt Race Cars
Posted By: 383man

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/17/09 11:40 PM

My friend said it was the last car (68 Cuda) that Ronnie drove. I believe its the same one in the American muscle car show where Ronnie and Bob Reed are racing each other. He is not planning to race it at all as he just wants to show it. He is afraid of someting happening to it if he races it. Ron
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/18/09 12:40 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHAi55OSPXI
Posted By: wldtm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/18/09 01:13 PM

Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHAi55OSPXI




well that is a burnout that Force or Dean Skuza would appreciate by Ronnie's car. Cool video.

justin
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/23/09 12:29 AM

I want to give some props to Lil Joe Teuton.
He was #1 in SS for the first part of the season.
He won Bradenton, and was runner up the next weekend in Gainsville.
He also made it to the semis a few times.
The 2nd part of the season just didnt go his way.
He ended up beaing #6 in the world for SS.
He ended up beaing #2 in his division,only 12 points outa #1.
That is 1 hell of an acomplishment!!!
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/23/09 12:31 AM

I also want to give some props to Bucky Hess.
That is amazing that he was able to win a national event in a HEMI!!!
Posted By: willp

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/24/09 02:37 PM

Looks like there may be some AH excitement this coming weekend at SGMP.

http://members3.boardhost.com/mariet327/msg/1258593159.html
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/24/09 03:36 PM

Quote:

Here is the Mopars at the Strip details on the Hemi Shootout (Mopar is not sponsoring this event as of yet so its a Independent event)
SS/AH Hemi Super Stock Shootout
NHRA SS/AH Rules and Tech apply.
All cars must pass NHRA tech.
Qualifying will be on Friday, March 26, 2010,



I see NHRA Cajun Sports Nationals is week before. Anyone know if Belle Rose will have a shootout as well?
Posted By: outcast

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/25/09 10:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0jStCCsw2Y&feature=related
Posted By: S/SSJOHN

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/27/09 09:24 PM

If anybodys Interested,The Bartons are on there way to SGMP, They should be there by tonite, with a quote from David that they found an additional 20+ HP at 9500!!!!!!!!! If weather's right theres talk of some 8.19 times ! Hope everyones real careful..Goodluck,,,,,,,, John
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 12:10 AM

record was set by daniels. 8.33 and not the best looking run.
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 12:37 AM

8.33?! I thought he ran an 8.27 and an 8.29
Posted By: 64HemiSavoy

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 04:38 AM

He did, during final eliminations. Record was set during qualifying. Records cannot be set in eliminations
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 03:55 PM

found out, daniels tied the record last night. broke and has the current record at 8.31. warfish ran 8.41
Posted By: willp

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 06:16 PM

Someone just posted on Marie's website that Daniels set the record at a 8.29 @ 160+ pending teardown.
Posted By: wolko

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 06:26 PM

That is right 8.29

Guess I will sell my car and race T/D

Congrats Jim et al
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 09:26 PM

Is DRC supposed to cover SGMP or do they get infrmation after the day is over? Thanx to the guys that post!
Posted By: willp

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 09:50 PM

I read where DRC was not at the SGMP national open but I can't verify this. There is a little information being posted on Class Racer.com and Marie's.
Posted By: Belvedere500ci

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/28/09 11:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tJXFf2uvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhLfgZeyYfE
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 12:00 AM

Found this on another forum. Daniels' record run from this weekend. One "in car" and one from the starting line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db_Vp495lho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQye8ZlXTzc
Posted By: willp

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 01:06 AM

Nice video's. But does this mean the end of the big wheel stands? I remember a several years back when David was running the Dart they had it set up to launch like that. Or was the track really good? thanks
Posted By: 68Fastback

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 01:16 AM

Wow they are really moving, congrats to the Bartons and Daniels. You guys have reset the bar again and are top of the hill now.
Posted By: moparbrown14

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 02:49 AM

you really gotta like the big numbers but if they start leaving like the ugly pro stockers and if they only have 5-6 cars at a hemi challenge because nobody else can compete then that will be the end
Posted By: Sixpak

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 04:04 AM

The Warfish car was going 160 at SGMP but it looked like it was bouncing on the 1-2 gear change, or at least squatting a little. Barton's car went 160 on the last pass so that tells me there's some ET left in the Warfish car if they get the chassis figured out. With the horsepower and MPH numbers these SSAH cars are resembling Pro Stockers more and more so the comment about them leaving more like ugly Pro Stockers isn't that far off. There's ET to be found in the chassis apparently if they don't really carry the wheels. The Barton car wastes no energy working the suspension unnecessarily and that seems to translate into ET.
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 04:24 AM

Quote:

The Warfish car was going 160 at SGMP but it looked like it was bouncing on the 1-2 gear change, or at least squatting a little. Barton's car went 160 on the last pass so that tells me there's some ET left in the Warfish car if they get the chassis figured out. With the horsepower and MPH numbers these SSAH cars are resembling Pro Stockers more and more so the comment about them leaving more like ugly Pro Stockers isn't that far off. There's ET to be found in the chassis apparently if they don't really carry the wheels. The Barton car wastes no energy working the suspension unnecessarily and that seems to translate into ET.




they were spinning and shaking the tires most of the way down the track. and I noticed large tires on the warfish car and small (14x322 or smaller) on the daniels car.
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 04:25 AM

record pass
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 12:07 PM

Quote:

The Warfish car was going 160 at SGMP but it looked like it was bouncing on the 1-2 gear change, or at least squatting a little. Barton's car went 160 on the last pass so that tells me there's some ET left in the Warfish car if they get the chassis figured out. With the horsepower and MPH numbers these SSAH cars are resembling Pro Stockers more and more so the comment about them leaving more like ugly Pro Stockers isn't that far off. There's ET to be found in the chassis apparently if they don't really carry the wheels. The Barton car wastes no energy working the suspension unnecessarily and that seems to translate into ET.




Charlie is a stick, Daniels ia an auto. Barton has some horsepower over Charlie...

Charlie has some work to do, and he hasn't been on the computer posting in a while, I think (hope) his dyno is working overtime.

This IS good for the class!
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 12:29 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The Warfish car was going 160 at SGMP but it looked like it was bouncing on the 1-2 gear change, or at least squatting a little. Barton's car went 160 on the last pass so that tells me there's some ET left in the Warfish car if they get the chassis figured out. With the horsepower and MPH numbers these SSAH cars are resembling Pro Stockers more and more so the comment about them leaving more like ugly Pro Stockers isn't that far off. There's ET to be found in the chassis apparently if they don't really carry the wheels. The Barton car wastes no energy working the suspension unnecessarily and that seems to translate into ET.




Charlie is a stick, Daniels ia an auto. Barton has some horsepower over Charlie...

Charlie has some work to do, and he hasn't been on the computer posting in a while, I think (hope) his dyno is working overtime.

This IS good for the class!




from what I seen he has more chassis issues than hp problems. he couldn't get down the track while daniels didn't spin at all.
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 02:27 PM

Yeah, I was just stating that Barton definitely has horsepower over Warfish.

I watched Daniels car leave at the dutch!

That chassis is definitely sorted out. Daniels made a very good move by buying that car and staying very close to the Barton's. Money well spent.

I just want to know when Wolkowitz or David in Mahans car are going to get a turn with the Mule?!!
Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 02:31 PM

Where is Pancake in all of this???
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 02:34 PM

$$$

Only a few spent for the new($) hp program!!

They took the chance, and it looks like the gamble($) paid off!!
Posted By: willp

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 03:34 PM

How much more weight are the automatics carrying over the sticks?
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/29/09 04:51 PM

Quote:

Yeah, I was just stating that Barton definitely has horsepower over Warfish.

I watched Daniels car leave at the dutch!

That chassis is definitely sorted out. Daniels made a very good move by buying that car and staying very close to the Barton's. Money well spent.

I just want to know when Wolkowitz or David in Mahans car are going to get a turn with the Mule?!!




I think the Mahan car might already have it. He was running similar mph at the Dutch
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/30/09 02:36 AM

So what's your thoughts ? Temporary set back? You going to make a undeniable shot next spring?
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/30/09 01:35 PM

Congrats to the Barton crew...

160+, into a head-wind in an automatic 68' Dart is serious horsepower.
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 11/30/09 10:07 PM

2010 should be interesting!
Westcott powered cars run ET's that are comparable to Charlie and his Dads times. I'm sure his customers like that.
Always a bunch of "Jackson Engine Tech" motors in the top half of the field.
While there may be 0.40 difference between Barton motors.
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/01/09 05:06 PM

Quote:

How much more weight are the automatics carrying over the sticks?


I believe its 40#.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/02/09 01:15 PM




Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/02/09 04:09 PM

Top Guns of SS/AH

1 8.273 1517 Jim Daniels Bristol PA 68 Dart CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
2 8.389 1990 David Barton Robesonia PA 68 Barracuda CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
3 8.399 1954 Bob Wolkwitz Darien CT 68 Barracuda CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
4 8.418 1945 Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ 68 Dart CE 3 D1 DUTCH NO
5 8.419 3651 Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI 68 Barracuda Q D2 VALDOSTA NO
6 8.487 403H Stephen Hebert West Lake LA 68 Barracuda CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
7 8.508 3036 Charlie Westcott Sr Parma MI 68 Barracuda Q D3-1 INDY
8 8.535 350 Jim Pancake Delaware OH 68 Dart Q D1 DUTCH NO
9 8.550 7005 Mark Vieira Turlock CA 68 Dart Q D7-5 SONOMA
10 8.583 138 Wendell Howes Rathesay NB 68 Barracuda Q D1 DUTCH NO
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/02/09 04:27 PM

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whats the truck for? are you hauling parts over to cws?
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/02/09 06:04 PM

ohh,, now you guys are making jokes....


charlie and i are somewhat talking now,,, i had a bad year breaking things often though i was "learning" piston skirt profiles starting in march,,, picked up 30hp from where i was but now that is down 80,,, i have many things to try over the winter,, though it makes you wonder why you want to chase this thing to win a trophy and spend this much money.

depends on how things go,, im entertaining the thought of switching to another class,,, ill build the motor,,, if it makes enough power ill switch, if not ill stay in super stock
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/03/09 09:16 PM

Quote:

2010 should be interesting!
Westcott powered cars run ET's that are comparable to Charlie and his Dads times. I'm sure his customers like that.
Always a bunch of "Jackson Engine Tech" motors in the top half of the field.
While there may be 0.40 difference between Barton motors.




MikeCompTA 57,
I think you need to check over your facts.

Nitro Joe,
thanks once again for posting this years results.
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 12:31 AM

There is 0.40 difference between Barton motors.
That is a fact!
Posted By: wldtm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 02:04 AM

I think some (daniels) bought into some R&D program, and other Barton customers decided not too. Hence the difference in ET... someone can correct me if this is not the case.

Justin
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 02:52 AM

What's new? New HP takes a while to filter down. That being said, these cars take cubic dollars and for us guys that have been around for a while are AMAZED at the ET's

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Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 02:56 AM

Quote:

2010 should be interesting!
Westcott powered cars run ET's that are comparable to Charlie and his Dads times. I'm sure his customers like that.
Always a bunch of "Jackson Engine Tech" motors in the top half of the field.
While there may be 0.40 difference between Barton motors.


Mike, you must be reading somone's mind. If he has one!!!
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 04:09 AM

david,, you know there is .40 differece in some "barton" motors,, you know,, the ones you guys built 10 years ago..... compared to today..


hey mike,, look at the qualifying at the last couple shootouts..

with how fast this stuff has been advancing guys might not beable to buck up to get the latest manifold,, cam,, crank,, pistons,, rockers,,, etc... so they run what they have,,, when you look at guys that just got new stuff and its the same as the other guy,, they were glued together at maple groove,, with the exception being daniels
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 09:44 PM

Well said Jeff.

Hey Nitro Joe,
can you list the top 20 cars please?

Yo Mike,
I'm not talking about that fact. I was talking about Westcott's customers being on the top half of the field.
And which customers run with him? From my experience he manages to pick up .10-.15 when the pressure is on him whiles his customers fall behind. That's really nice. And I'm talking about the guys that are paying $65,000 for the latest greatest piece.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 10:21 PM

how fast does
Norm Scotts AH barracuda go. i heard it was for sale?
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/04/09 10:30 PM

OK


Quote:

Yo Mike,
I'm not talking about that fact. I was talking about Westcott's customers being on the top half of the field.
And which customers run with him? From my experience he manages to pick up .10-.15 when the pressure is on him whiles his customers fall behind. That's really nice. And I'm talking about the guys that are paying $65,000 for the latest greatest piece.


Posted By: 68Fastback

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/05/09 01:38 AM

So David Barton congrats on your recent success, to me it is crazy how quick these cars are going with the limits on the motors. Without giving to much away can you tell me what we can expect with the added horsepower you guys have developed. I never thought we would see these cars knocking on 7's so soon.

Thanks
Posted By: jake4cars

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/05/09 09:13 AM

Quote:

Quote:

2010 should be interesting!
Westcott powered cars run ET's that are comparable to Charlie and his Dads times. I'm sure his customers like that.
Always a bunch of "Jackson Engine Tech" motors in the top half of the field.
While there may be 0.40 difference between Barton motors.


Mike, you must be reading somone's mind. If he has one!!!




Isn't this the same argument people made when Nickens ruled comp eliminator for so many years, I think Nickens put his own engine in other cars just to quiet the rumors. At any rate, Congratulations to Barton for their success and it's interesting to watch the march towards the 7's, never thought that would happen.
Happy Holidays Everyone!
Joey
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/05/09 10:30 PM

Quote:

So David Barton congrats on your recent success, to me it is crazy how quick these cars are going with the limits on the motors. Without giving to much away can you tell me what we can expect with the added horsepower you guys have developed. I never thought we would see these cars knocking on 7's so soon.

Thanks




There is lots left in them.

If the weather and track conditions cooperate, I don't see 8.0's being out of the question. For sure 8-teens.

And who knows... maybe someone can pull off 7's. Next year should be very exciting for everyone, both fans and racers.

I hope the competition brings something to the table to keep the class going.
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Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 12:40 AM

so where has charlie been? did he hurt his typing hand shifting the big 4 speed??????????
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 01:00 AM

I want to know where Stella is!!!!
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 01:51 AM

WHAT THE F!!!

A rivalry is good between Warfish and the Bartons, especially when they find power, but the negative bashing has got to stop.

I don't know what the Bartons found, but between Hornicks camshaft, and their heads and intake, keep it up!


And Jim Daniels who OWNS and DRIVES the Ex-Barton Dart, is the one who set the record and is the fastest Barton car, not Dartdude. Daniels IS the customer and a hell of a nice guy!
Posted By: 68Fastback

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:22 AM

Those camshafts are probably on back order by now so many are being ordered. Crazy to think but results are results.
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Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 04:04 AM

im feelin kinda left out here
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 04:13 AM

Quote:

Just stating facts Dartdude said westcott always outruns his customers. And that makes him different from barton how?

I didn't say Daniels didn't own and drive his car. (ex-barton car) Where did you come up with that It is saturday night and you may be intoxicated so it's OK






It doesn't look like Dartdude is outrunning his customers... Who's been drinking?
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:30 PM

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so where has charlie been? did he hurt his typing hand shifting the big 4 speed??????????




not on top anymore
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:33 PM

man these ss guys are nasty but I have to know, does the warfish car have barton rockers on it?
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:37 PM

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man these ss guys are nasty but I have to know, does the warfish car have barton rockers on it?


dont forget the intake
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:46 PM

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man these ss guys are nasty but I have to know, does the warfish car have barton rockers on it?


dont forget the intake




I have another question, why will they not let you take a pic of the motor? is there something top secret on the outside that another team could pick up on? I am being serious cause I don't know.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:52 PM

charlie has jesel rockers,,,, his own intake he makes on his cnc...


if you took pictures,, you might post here for all to see,,, noone wants their intake open for public viewing


i talked to charlie friday,, i told to come back,, he said he hasnt looked at this in a month,, said he doesnt want to read all the people bashing him,,,, but a year ago i guess it was ok for him to bash others on here
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:53 PM

im guessin mostly because of the intake
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 02:59 PM

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charlie has jesel rockers,,,, his own intake he makes on his cnc...


if you took pictures,, you might post here for all to see,,, noone wants their intake open for public viewing


i talked to charlie friday,, i told to come back,, he said he hasnt looked at this in a month,, said he doesnt want to read all the people bashing him,,,, but a year ago i guess it was ok for him to bash others on here




yea the intake was the only thing i could think of that they didn't want anybody to see. to bad these guys can't get along. every body knows you need thick skin to survive on the net.
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 03:19 PM

Quote:

i talked to charlie friday,, i told to come back,, he said he hasnt looked at this in a month,, said he doesnt want to read all the people bashing him,,,, but a year ago i guess it was ok for him to bash others on here




Nobody wants to be bashed, this is what happens when it does... it gets pretty quiet in here!

Charlie posted pics of his cnc intakes last year.

Now we have people starting to bash Barton.

I may look at things differently than the AH guys as the majority of my competition are Chevies and now Mustangs. Until the Hemis take back all the records from SS/AA to SS/EA we have to ALL work together. Arguing and bashing amongst ourselves is not helping the cause.

And love or hate Charlie, when he would win class and pack his stuff up to test at a track the next day instead of racing the event... Gotta love the dedication! Maybe thats why he outran his customers...
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 03:23 PM

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im feelin kinda left out here




And Bill, what are you gonna do now that Chalie and Jeff are talking again?

I've been meaning to talk to you for awhile, pm sent!
Posted By: mr_340

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 03:35 PM

Geez, this thread is as bad as the one on Marie's. Maybe it should be called 2010 - SS/AH - Bashing instead of Super Stock. Can we get a moderator in here to change the name?
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 03:50 PM

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im feelin kinda left out here




And Bill, what are you gonna do now that Chalie and Jeff are talking again?

I've been meaning to talk to you for awhile, pm sent!


ha ha ha i dont know john they took my fun away lol
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 04:32 PM

Guys have you noticed that Jim Daniels and David are not bashing and harassing the other SS/AH racers on here?

Bucky never bashed other people, nor does Jeff
Posted By: mr_340

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 05:03 PM

Yeah, some people have some class.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 07:08 PM

W7 skank,

I don't know what your problem is but you're obviously not a fan of the Barton team and that's fine.

You can believe what you want but I have never done anything to my car that Bucky didn't know about. He always had the same, if not better, parts in his car.

Anyone that personally knows me can tell you that I work on my stuff last. That's why I'm usually the last guy to show up to the track. And usually the last guy to enter the staging lanes each round.

Each car on our team gets the same treatment. If any car suffers its usually the one I'm driving.

The bottom line is I do my best to help everybody. If you can't see that than I don't know what planet you live on.

I'm sorry you feel that way.
Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/06/09 07:37 PM

Here are the best runs from each driver in SS/AH at a NHRA event.
1 8.273 1517 Jim Daniels 68 Dart CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
2 8.389 1990 David Barton 68 Barracuda CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
3 8.399 1954 Bob Wolkwitz 68 Barracuda CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
4 8.418 1945 Gary Wolkwitz 68 Dart CE 3 D1 DUTCH NO
5 8.419 3651 Charlie Westcott Jr 68 Barracuda Q D2 VALDOSTA NO
6 8.487 403H Stephen Hebert 68 Barracuda CE 2 D1 DUTCH NO
7 8.508 3036 Charlie Westcott Sr 68 Barracuda Q D3-1 INDY
8 8.535 350 Jim Pancake 68 Dart Q D1 DUTCH NO
9 8.550 7005 Mark Vieira 68 Dart Q D7-5 SONOMA
10 8.583 138 Wendell Howes 68 Barracuda Q D1 DUTCH NO
11 8.584 799J John Rains 68 Dart CE 3 US NATS
12 8.585 1968 Chuck Comella 68 Dart Q D1 DUTCH NO
13 8.620 2354 Bill Brooks 68 Barracuda Q D2 VALDOSTA NO
14 8.635 100H Tyler Hard 68 Barracuda Q D1 DUTCH NO
15 8.655 44 Joe Teuton Jr. 68 Barracuda CE 3 SOUTHERN NATS
16 8.666 3410 Randy Warford 68 Barracuda Q D3-1 INDY
17 8.673 720 Dave Raybourn 68 Barracuda Q D7-5 SONOMA
18 8.686 335 Jeff kobylski 68 Dart Q SOUTHERN NATS
19 8.692 721 Rick Houser 68 Barracuda Q WINTER NATS
20 8.701 1798 Bucky Hess 68 Barracuda RD 6 VIRGINIA NATS
21 8.703 3426 Darrell Marvel 68 Barracuda Q D3-1 INDY
22 8.708 6766 Bob Mazzolini 68 Barracuda Q WINTER NATS
23 8.711 655 Peter Wille 68 Barracuda Q D6-2 MISSION
24 8.727 1979 John Baughman 68 Dart Q N SPORTS
25 8.730 3392 Don Bales 68 Barracuda Q D3 SL OPEN
26 8.738 1381 Mark Howes 68 Dart RD 1 D1 DUTCH NO
27 8.784 452 Steve Kent 68 Barracuda Q FALL NATS
28 8.801 7629 Joe Faherty 68 Barracuda Q WINTER NATS
29 8.803 428 Kevin Helms 68 Barracuda Q US NATS
30 8.808 1960 Al Smith III 68 Barracuda RD 1 SUPER NATS
31 8.825 304 Jim Keyes 68 Barracuda RD 1 D3-2 NORWALK
32 8.876 4420 Tim Hebert 68 Barracuda Q D2-2 GAINESVILLE
33 8.955 4443 Gary Moore 68 Barracuda Q D4-1 ENNIS
34 8.959 360 Geoff Turk 68 Barracuda Q D3-3 JOLIET
35 8.972 7426 Chuck Rayburn 68 Barracuda Q LV NATS 2
36 9.069 5651 Rick Johnson 68 Barracuda Q D5-2 BRAINERD
37 9.071 5529 Russ Campbell 68 Barracuda Q D1 DUTCH NO
38 9.178 342 Harold Leiter 68 Barracuda RD 1 D3-5 COLUMBUS
39 9.204 5583 Dan Zrust 68 Barracuda Q D5-2 BRAINERD
40 9.205 426 Daniel Rogers 68 Barracuda Q D4-6 NOBLE
41 9.223 3080 Jerry Daily 68 Dart RD 1 D3-1 INDY
42 9.252 702 Skip Loeffler 68 Dart Q LV NATS 2
43 9.468 1174 Brooks Lee 68 Dart Q D2-3 ORLANDO
44 9.586 1601 Bill Kraft 68 Barracuda CE 1 D1 DUTCH NO
45 9.588 2975 Marvin Graves 68 Dart Q SOUTHERN NATS
46 9.647 2099 Robert Burch 68 Dart Q D2-3 ORLANDO
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/06/09 07:41 PM

i made it in at #18,,,, not as bad as i thought it would


why cant we all get along
Posted By: moprod

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/06/09 07:46 PM

Charley will be back on here when he runs as quick as Daniels. Nothing to brag about right now.
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/06/09 08:01 PM

Man Marie's boards like going to the yellow bullet
Posted By: 68CudaB1

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 08:11 PM

Great Job to the Barton crew........hey David, tell the Grumpy Old Man I said he can smile now once in a while

Bill Hertzog
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/06/09 09:40 PM

Quote:

i made it in at #18,,,, not as bad as i thought it would


why cant we all get along


cool beans
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/06/09 09:41 PM

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Man Marie's boards like going to the yellow bullet


hey yellow bullet rocks
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/06/09 09:42 PM

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Charley will be back on here when he runs as quick as Daniels. Nothing to brag about right now.


i kinda miss the cuckster
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 10:43 PM




i talked to charlie friday,, i told to come back,, he said he hasnt looked at this in a month,, said he doesnt want to read all the people bashing him,,,, but a year ago i guess it was ok for him to bash others on here






i dont want to call any one a lair but last night ther was 9253 views of this post and now there is 9903 so somebody is lookng at this post and i would say 1 of them is cw
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 10:47 PM

Quote:




i talked to charlie friday,, i told to come back,, he said he hasnt looked at this in a month,, said he doesnt want to read all the people bashing him,,,, but a year ago i guess it was ok for him to bash others on here






i dont want to call any one a lair but last night ther was 9253 views of this post and now there is 9903 so somebody is lookng at this post and i would say 1 of them is cw


my guess is jeff meant that cuck should drop by and say a few sylables
Posted By: Anonymous

Post deleted by moparts - 12/06/09 11:17 PM

Posted By: j oliverio

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/06/09 11:51 PM

First, let me say I have never spent 1 penny with the Bartons. But my friend has a older Barton motor and The Bartons are always willing to help him.I have been around them enough to agree with David the car he drives probably gets worked on last. The way I see it if I was the engine builder my car should be quicker because of the know how not because I don't give everyone what I have. To me being a former racer that is a copout. How many can do and know what the engine builder knows. Also how many really know anything about the chassis setup.Get a hemi car and see how fast you can make it run and then go after the fast ones wether it is a Barton or Wescott car.
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 12:20 AM


This isn't Stella is it? I know she was a big Charlie fan and it kind of sounds like her...

By the way, Charlie is posting over on classracer.com so being MIA on this site isn't because he is out in the shop... I wonder why he doesn't come around here anymore???




Quote:

SKANK I don't call myself that! dartdude is what you call yourself. I just wanted you to know what the meaning of dude was. Look it up yourself.

Anyhow You (dartdude) state that charlie always outruns his customers. According to nitrojoe you outrun all you're customers but one. And that makes you different how?
If I stated something that wasn't fact (other than the roof bulge) let me know!

Didn't mean to make you and please tell Jim a shirt would be great!!!


Posted By: Anonymous

Post deleted by moparts - 12/07/09 12:36 AM

Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 12:43 AM



Why would charlie want to come on here and talk to people who own FORDS and HARLEY'S? The two biggest pieces of junk made!!!

i second that.
Posted By: 68Fastback

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 01:51 AM

Just curious since it is mentioned how do roof bulges or the humps on the inner fenders or heck even different sized scoops make these cars faster. I always thought the humps on the inner fenders should be a safety deal but thats me.
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 02:21 AM

No, it is not Stella. I was not picking on any certain person just giving my 2 cents.
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 03:54 PM

By the way, Charlie is posting over on classracer.com so being MIA on this site isn't because he is out in the shop... I wonder why he doesn't come around here anymore???


now i know why the call him cw

c = coward= scared to show up at the dutch and show up on here. it was funny when he was on jeff to show up?

w = woman = did you ever see a little girl that you made mad and would not talk
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 08:29 PM

Imagine the uproar when a Barton car runs a "teen".


I can't wait...
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 10:47 PM

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Quote:


This isn't Stella is it? I know she was a big Charlie fan and it kind of sounds like her...

By the way, Charlie is posting over on classracer.com so being MIA on this site isn't because he is out in the shop... I wonder why he doesn't come around here anymore???

Nope not Stella!

Why would charlie want to come on here and talk to people who own FORDS and HARLEY'S? The two biggest pieces of junk made!!!

Hey you had to ask




No not looking to talk to Charlie. I was just wondering if he would come on here and talk down to people like he did when he held the record that's all. Also wanted to know what happened to his biggest fan "Stella"....

"Fords and Harleys junk", thats a good one. I don't know how I could ever respond to that....

I like them all. I've never been so narrow minded to think that someones hardwork and effort are "junk" just because it was a certain brand.

Back to SS/AH talk as the title says...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 11:06 PM

does anybody know anything about NORM SCOTT'S AH BARRACUDA, one of the west virginia cars?
heard it was for sale,
thinking about it?thanks NICK
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/07/09 11:31 PM

I think that is the car Dean drove. I believe that car was sold to somebody else before Norm owned it.It was red and white I think.
Posted By: OUTLAWSSAA

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/08/09 02:00 AM

Quote:

By the way, Charlie is posting over on classracer.com so being MIA on this site isn't because he is out in the shop... I wonder why he doesn't come around here anymore???

Charlie hasn't posted on Marie's board since July,3,unless you think he's using a different name.
Posted By: gmoore

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock 2009 SS/AH Stats - 12/08/09 03:51 AM

hey joe, how do i get your book? thanks-- gary
Posted By: moparspiker

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/09/09 12:04 AM

whatzz wrong with them fast chevyz kennell
Posted By: moparspiker

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/09/09 12:10 AM

he needs a karns auto trans to go fast
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/11/09 03:55 PM

HEY BUCKEY HOWS JOE DOING???????
Posted By: Silver Bullet

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/12/09 12:51 AM

Hello All... Happy Holidays.

Jim Layton, Director of National Trails Raceway in Columbus Ohio sent me an e-mail earlier today stating the he is working on possibly including a SS/AH program Friday and Saturday of the Mopar Nationals, August 13th & 14th 2010.

The purpose of my post on MOPARTS is to gauge your interest and see if you think you are willing to support this specific event.

Specific need to be worked out (vis-a-vis establish a purse, secure some sponsorship and determine how the program would be contested), Jim Layton is well aware of this.

Does not look like there is any conflict with NHRA Divisional Races. See below

Best Regards,



Don Bales
8122167498 cell
hemicud@yahoo.com



2010 NHRA LUCAS OIL DRAG RACING SERIES SCHEDULE
NORTHEAST DIVISION
April 30-May 2 Atco Raceway* Atco, N.J.
May 28-30 Maple Grove Raceway Reading, Pa.
July 2-4 Lebanon Valley Dragway West Lebanon, N.Y.
Aug. 20-22 Cecil County Dragway Rising Sun, Md.
Sept. 10-12 Old Bridge Township Raceway Park Englishtown, N.J.
Oct. 1-3 Atco Raceway Atco, N.J.

SOUTHEAST DIVISION
Feb. 12-14 Bradenton Motorsports Park Bradenton, Fla.
Feb. 19-21 Gainesville Raceway Gainesville, Fla.
March 5-7 Orlando Speed World Dragway Orlando, Fla.
Sept. 10-12 Atlanta Dragway Commerce, Ga.
Oct. 15-17 Silver Dollar Raceway Reynolds, Ga.

NORTH CENTRAL DIVISION
April 23-25 O'Reilly Raceway Park at Indianapolis Indianapolis
May 14-16 Summit Racing Equipment Motorsports Park Norwalk, Ohio
June 11-13 Route 66 Raceway Joliet, Ill.
July 10-11 Mid-Michigan Motorplex * Stanton, Mich.
July 23-25 National Trail Raceway Columbus, Ohio
Aug. 27-29 Beech Bend Raceway Park Bowling Green, Ky.

SOUTH CENTRAL DIVISION
April 23-25 Texas Motorplex Ennis, Texas
May 14-16 Tulsa Raceway Park Tulsa, Okla.
June 11-13 Houston Raceway Park Baytown, Texas
Sept. 17-19 No Problem Raceway Belle Rose, La.
Oct. 22-24 Thunder Valley Raceway Park Noble, Okla.

WEST CENTRAL DIVISION
April 23-25 SRCA Dragstrip Great Bend, Kan.
May 28-30 Brainerd International Raceway Brainerd, Minn.
June 18-20 Bandimere Speedway Morrison, Colo.
Aug. 6-7 Cordova Raceway Park Cordova, Ill.
Aug. 27-29 Heartland Park Topeka Topeka, Kan.
Sept. 10-12 Tri-State Raceway Earlville, Iowa

NORTHWEST DIVISION
April 30-May 2 Firebird Raceway * Boise, Idaho
May 28-30 Mission Raceway Mission, B.C.
June 25-27 Woodburn Dragstrip Woodburn, Ore.
Aug. 27-29 Pacific Raceways Seattle, Wash.
Sept. 24-26 TBA

PACIFIC DIVISION
TBA Firebird International Raceway Chandler, Ariz.
TBA Southwestern International Raceway Tucson, Ariz.
June 11-13 Top Gun Raceway Fallon, Nev.
July 23-25 Infineon Raceway Sonoma, Calif.
Sept. 17-19 Auto Club Famoso Raceway Bakersfield, Calif.
Nov. 4-7 The Strip at Las Vegas Motor Speedway Las Vegas

NHRA LUCAS OIL SERIES SPORTSnationals
March 19-21 JEGS NHRA Cajun SPORTSnationals * Belle Rose, La.
May 14-16 JEGS NHRA Pacific SPORTSnationals* Fontana, Calif.
Sept. 24-26 JEGS NHRA Northern SPORTSnationals * Columbus, Ohio
Posted By: jake4cars

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/12/09 06:25 AM

sounds like a great idea!
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/09 10:17 PM

Is this thing turned on?.....

Hello.....anybody here?
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/14/09 10:30 PM

Well I am here ..but I don't count !!
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 12:15 AM

Quote:

Is this thing turned on?.....

Hello.....anybody here?




Funny you should ask.

I took the audio from the Daniels run and had one of my Scientists look into this for a few minutes. He ran the audio through a Sonar tool (Jonesie' tracking Red October) we have and did a Spectrogram plot (do not know how to attach). Need another Scientist. Ha! The red lines are the engine harmonics which are directly related to shaft rate and engine RPM. The gear shifting is clearly visible and lines up with what is heard in the video.



FINDINGS: Zooming in down below 100Hz and increasing the FFT integration size you can clearly see the 1st harmonics in exhaust noise. Top RPM was about 4800 in each of the three gears. Second gear might be slightly higher (4830RPM) and Third gear (at the finish line) a little lower (4770RPM). Many higher-order harmonics can also be seen and carry additional useful information. (These are all conservative guesses on the low side and could be higher by 20 or 30 RPM.)



CAVEAT: We are basing this analysis on indirect observation from acoustic energy in the exhaust noises (good thing they don't use mufflers). These were eyeball measurements coupled with FFT length constraints so frequency estimates maybe .5Hz precision. That creates an uncertainty of 30RPM or so. So the top RPM might be 20 or 30 Hz higher. Also there is a curious non-linearity in that harmonics are not exact multiples of each other and varies with frequency. (Note how the harmonic slopes get steeper as freq goes up. We need to investigate this further to interpret these harmonics and get a more accurate estimate of RPM.)


If we need greater precision (reducing uncertainty etc) then we'll need to extract these signals and perform more elaborate analysis.

The program does not care that the engine is a four stroke so for a slight fee I will multiply the findings by two.

PS Thanks to Al Gore for the internet and my friend Jim D. for the noise. Now let's see if the board is working.

I now have the converter and powerband mapped but do not think I should post that data. This is all in fun. The Barton's have "their stuff in one sock"..... GO SAINTS!!!
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 12:31 AM

Posted By: island hemi

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 01:03 AM

Steve u better quit drinking that coolaid that they serve at the Saint's games
Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 01:15 AM

Quote:

Is this thing turned on?.....

Hello.....anybody here?


Don't you hear it??? Dynos and CNC's hard at work!!! Your numbers have put most back to work or speachless!! No time for chat.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 01:18 AM

Quote:

Steve u better quit drinking that coolaid that they serve at the Saint's games




Not coolaid, Dat' be Pat Obrien's Hurricane. That (Dat') bar sells the most rum of any bar in the WORLD. We start there Friday and work our way to Saint/Dallas Sat night. Find NFL network and watch!

PS Don't you owe me $100 on that Miami game?
Posted By: island hemi

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 10:42 AM

I deposited the money in your offshore acct.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 02:49 PM

Keep the money and deposit me 100HP under the blue hood. Have a great holiday.
Posted By: mr_340

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/15/09 04:30 PM

Quote:

FINDINGS: Zooming in down below 100Hz and increasing the FFT integration size you can clearly see the 1st harmonics in exhaust noise. Top RPM was about 4800 in each of the three gears. Second gear might be slightly higher (4830RPM) and Third gear (at the finish line) a little lower (4770RPM). Many higher-order harmonics can also be seen and carry additional useful information. (These are all conservative guesses on the low side and could be higher by 20 or 30 RPM.)




I never thought I'd see a thread on FFT on Moparts. Since the exhaust cycle only happens every other revolution on a 4-cycle engine (they are running Hemis as 4-cycles still, aren't they?), I guess you can double those numbers to come up with engine RPM.

$100 for 100 HP. Someone's dreaming of a BIG Christmas present. Closer to $100k for 100 HP and that would still be cheap at that level.
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/17/09 04:23 AM

Per NHRA:

Super Stock No Changes
Mopar 426 Reduce weight of automatics no change
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/17/09 12:27 PM

Quote:

Is this thing turned on?.....

Hello.....anybody here?


Tumbleweeds....
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/17/09 02:37 PM

Jared, How is Harry doing? Anything going on with you guys racing next year?
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/17/09 04:16 PM

He's doing very well in retirement....finally! I didn't think he was ever going to stop working 7 days a week.

At the moment, I'd classify our racing plans as up in the air. The two WCH Cudas are no longer at our shop which leaves the Belvedere and my Mom's Volare. I know my Mom plans on doing some racing next year and we have an engine together for the Belvedere, but I don't know if it will see a track again under our ownership. Ideally, we would like to sell it.
Posted By: Dyno1

2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/18/09 10:06 PM

9.75 to 9.60, now 9.30. Lost .45 in less than a week. Back to work! Dyno
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/21/09 01:09 AM

Quote:

9.75 to 9.60, now 9.30. Lost .45 in less than a week. Back to work! Dyno





Wonder why?
Posted By: cgall

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/21/09 01:18 AM

Did Ogbern get out at all this year? I did not see his cars in any results.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/21/09 02:35 PM

Quote:

Quote:

9.75 to 9.60, now 9.30. Lost .45 in less than a week. Back to work! Dyno





Wonder why?




NHRA lowered all indexes by .30 in Stock & Super Stock.
Posted By: mbogina

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/21/09 10:47 PM

Yes, but now the trigger has also been revised, allowing the Record to be reset as low as 8.05 without triggering an index or HP adjustment by NHRA.
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/21/09 11:38 PM

Quote:

Yes, but now the trigger has also been revised, allowing the Record to be reset as low as 8.05 without triggering an index or HP adjustment by NHRA.




your hoping they don't change it before then
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/22/09 03:49 AM

david,, you need to change your name to "cudadude" now,, since daniels has your "dart"... you cant be claiming to be one of us few dart racers





Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/22/09 10:19 PM

Quote:

david,, you need to change your name to "cudadude" now,, since daniels has your "dart"... you cant be claiming to be one of us few dart racers










I'll always be a Dart Dude at heart. But I'll drive someone elses Cuda if I have to.
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/22/09 11:27 PM

Quote:

Quote:

david,, you need to change your name to "cudadude" now,, since daniels has your "dart"... you cant be claiming to be one of us few dart racers










I'll always be a Dart Dude at heart. But I'll drive someone elses Cuda if I have to.


If you have to???

I guess its a dirty job drivin' them Cudas, but somebodys gotta do it!!!

Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and the family.
Posted By: scottb

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock- New Index - 12/23/09 12:21 AM

Hey David what did Danials think about the pictures of my dart that looks like his just does not run like his .Great job on your new engine program
Posted By: coletrickle

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/25/09 12:42 PM

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2010 should be interesting!
Westcott powered cars run ET's that are comparable to Charlie and his Dads times. I'm sure his customers like that.
Always a bunch of "Jackson Engine Tech" motors in the top half of the field.
While there may be 0.40 difference between Barton motors.


Mike, you must be reading somone's mind. If he has one!!!




Isn't this the same argument people made when Nickens ruled comp eliminator for so many years, I think Nickens put his own engine in other cars just to quiet the rumors. At any rate, Congratulations to Barton for their success and it's interesting to watch the march towards the 7's, never thought that would happen.
Happy Holidays Everyone!
Joey


I was at nickens when this happened David sold the engine out of his b/a along with his spare the guy who bought it on the 1st or 2nd run went heaps under the index making it real hard from there on.If you offer enough you can buy pretty much anything if it's not a "pro class"These guys are running buissness to make cash and they are always developing new stuff to go faster.
Posted By: 493_DART

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/28/09 09:44 AM

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Is this thing turned on?.....

Hello.....anybody here?




Funny you should ask.

I took the audio from the Daniels run and had one of my Scientists look into this for a few minutes. He ran the audio through a Sonar tool (Jonesie' tracking Red October) we have and did a Spectrogram plot (do not know how to attach). Need another Scientist. Ha! The red lines are the engine harmonics which are directly related to shaft rate and engine RPM. The gear shifting is clearly visible and lines up with what is heard in the video.



FINDINGS: Zooming in down below 100Hz and increasing the FFT integration size you can clearly see the 1st harmonics in exhaust noise. Top RPM was about 4800 in each of the three gears. Second gear might be slightly higher (4830RPM) and Third gear (at the finish line) a little lower (4770RPM). Many higher-order harmonics can also be seen and carry additional useful information. (These are all conservative guesses on the low side and could be higher by 20 or 30 RPM.)



CAVEAT: We are basing this analysis on indirect observation from acoustic energy in the exhaust noises (good thing they don't use mufflers). These were eyeball measurements coupled with FFT length constraints so frequency estimates maybe .5Hz precision. That creates an uncertainty of 30RPM or so. So the top RPM might be 20 or 30 Hz higher. Also there is a curious non-linearity in that harmonics are not exact multiples of each other and varies with frequency. (Note how the harmonic slopes get steeper as freq goes up. We need to investigate this further to interpret these harmonics and get a more accurate estimate of RPM.)


If we need greater precision (reducing uncertainty etc) then we'll need to extract these signals and perform more elaborate analysis.

The program does not care that the engine is a four stroke so for a slight fee I will multiply the findings by two.

PS Thanks to Al Gore for the internet and my friend Jim D. for the noise. Now let's see if the board is working.

I now have the converter and powerband mapped but do not think I should post that data. This is all in fun. The Barton's have "their stuff in one sock"..... GO SAINTS!!!





good one....

im an audio guy.......and i even said to myself .....[Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]??
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 01:44 AM

can anyone tell me if the WEST VIRGINIA BARRACUDA is still for sale?
im a serious buyer.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 01:49 AM

if you want to buy something,,, buy warfords car
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 03:05 AM

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if you want to buy something,,, buy warfords car




why warfords over the west virginia barracuda?
Posted By: max_maniac

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 03:07 AM

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if you want to buy something,,, buy warfords car




why warfords over the west virginia barracuda?








Russ
Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 03:29 AM

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Quote:

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if you want to buy something,,, buy warfords car




why warfords over the west virginia barracuda?








Russ


You know where to find it!!
Westcott engine/pro trans,
MR2 Performance built,
Blown71X wiring???
Chassis up to specs,
Great price,
Mel's a good guy,
Randy's a good guy,
or you can buy his 2nd Drag Pack car
(not built) #20.
Photo by Frito, Indy 2009

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Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 02:16 PM

I have the "brother from another mother" 25.4 Cuda
Crawphish, leaving Holt's for paint. New build from Spyphish doner car. It can be bought. Call Ben Holt for details and me for price. Will be back in US 1st week of Jan. Happy New Year to all!!!
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 05:49 PM

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if you want to buy something,,, buy warfords car




why warfords over the west virginia barracuda?





Only $100K
GR8 price!
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 05:49 PM

if you want a real car that has a ro vin you could probably get huttons car,,, you could also buy the warfish auto car

you do just about anything and youll have 150k in it,, but if you buy warfords you are racing for 100,,, it is .20 down from the top though,, but for the remaining 50 you can spend to try to get there
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 07:58 PM

wow Warfords car really is a steal!

Doesn't matter how fast the car is, it's not like he is going to race it anyway

Casey
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 10:28 PM

Quote:

wow Warfords car really is a steal!



That cars got a lot of do-dads for only 100k....well worth the $$$ !!!
Posted By: LSP

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/30/09 11:26 PM

Just go ask Daniels what he wants for his, you're already looking at big $$$,$$$ anyway. Depends on your goals, if you want to just participate?, or have a chance at running at the top most of the time?
Posted By: KD800X

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 12/31/09 06:22 AM

Quote:

wow Warfords car really is a steal!

Doesn't matter how fast the car is, it's not like he is going to race it anyway

Casey




Casey... Don't start.
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/01/10 11:22 PM

Quote:

Quote:

wow Warfords car really is a steal!

Doesn't matter how fast the car is, it's not like he is going to race it anyway

Casey




Casey... Don't start.


Kevin,don't expect anything intelligent or informative from him.Maybe if we ignore him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he will go away
Posted By: Phil Saran

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/02/10 12:03 AM

Bob Mazzolini out in SOCAL has his SS/AH Cuda
for sale also. Plus the Toterhome and stacker
trailer are also for sale. Shop 1-951-787-8783
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/02/10 06:56 AM

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Quote:

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wow Warfords car really is a steal!

Doesn't matter how fast the car is, it's not like he is going to race it anyway

Casey




Casey... Don't start.


Kevin,don't expect anything intelligent or informative from him.Maybe if we ignore him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he will go away




dont hold your breath

And he knows Im just messin with him...hence the little pot stirrer guy... so take it easy killer... go polish lugnuts or something


Back to the AH world... Anyone have news what ole Pancake is up to???? is he going to invest in one of them fast engines? david??? any info?

Casey
Posted By: Anonymous

Post deleted by Defbob - 01/05/10 02:14 AM

Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/05/10 02:26 AM

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spam




alright, you lost me there
Posted By: HemiDart68

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/05/10 02:26 AM

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scrambled message




alright, you lost me there




Look at his last 4 posts, just filling the board up with spam. Do ur job Mod dude.
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/05/10 10:43 AM

Anyone wanna buy Warfords car ? You can store it at my house, and I'll even drive it for the right buyer.

Seriously good deal.
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/08/10 09:00 PM

hey charlie are you done pouting yet???

come on jeff doesnt have the fastest car but he still comes on here to talk
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/08/10 11:38 PM

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hey charlie are you done pouting yet???

come on jeff doesnt have the fastest car but he still comes on here to talk




Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/09/10 01:00 AM

should i or shouldnt i?
Posted By: Hemiroid

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/09/10 01:11 AM

Quote:

should i or shouldnt i?




Don't doooo eeetttt!!!!!!!
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/09/10 05:21 AM

....Spring of 2010 the Warfish comes out of hibernation dawning a new coat of flat black and blasts the record in stealth fighter fashion.
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/09/10 07:17 AM

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should i or shouldnt i?




Go For It
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/09/10 07:27 PM

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....Spring of 2010 the Warfish comes out of hibernation dawning a new coat of flat black and blasts the record in stealth fighter fashion.




What is your definition of blasting?

Flat black, sounds classy.
Posted By: moparspiker

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/10/10 01:26 AM

Rumor has it charlie will be back for the record,but doses he have the HP to do it
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/10/10 01:37 AM

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....Spring of 2010 the Warfish comes out of hibernation dawning a new coat of flat black and blasts the record in stealth fighter fashion.




What is your definition of blasting?

Flat black, sounds classy.


your kinda sounding like cuck now.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/10/10 03:14 AM

Pretty sure the bar will be lowered all around the cars that have been going .70's and .80's will be .50's cars next spring. Alot of valve train,cam and intake development in the last 6 months. I would almost bet the record will be a low teen by late next fall.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/10/10 07:42 PM




your kinda sounding like cuck now.





What? You lost me.
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/13/10 08:06 PM

Quote:




your kinda sounding like cuck now.





What? You lost me.


well the cuckster really never had much good things to say about anyone. hence not much class so i hope you dont do as he did.
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/13/10 08:35 PM

I was reading a study the other day that found that eating too much crow leads to the inability to interact with those you have crowed to the most. Modesty is the best policy unless you are a wrestler.
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/14/10 12:37 AM

Quote:

I was reading a study the other day that found that eating too much crow leads to the inability to interact with those you have crowed to the most. Modesty is the best policy unless you are a wrestler.




How true!!!
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/14/10 06:09 AM

hey charlie i see you was on maries board 1/6/2010 so i know you are looking at this board. so are you comming back???? no more
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/14/10 01:06 PM

i talked to charllie,, he said no...


he says he is up some hp,, still working,, i havent worked on mine since october... have work to do you know...

brian hard is a new barton customer

stephen hebert is having david reher from reher-morrison go through his stuff now...
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/15/10 12:46 PM

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your kinda sounding like cuck now.





What? You lost me.




For a few years the former top of the heap AH racer would post on this board and bad mouth others in his class. I told him to enjoy his success while it lasted because nothing lasts forever.You could tell by his response that he didn't think anyone would ever catch him.
Congratulations you did!
Now set the example and you will earn the respect of your fellow racers and the fans. (I'm not saying that you did anything wrong.I don't like flat black either) But some might consider the remark as a shot at Chuck and consider it boasting.

Congratulations Again!
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/15/10 03:59 PM

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Quote:




your kinda sounding like cuck now.





What? You lost me.




For a few years the former top of the heap AH racer would post on this board and bad mouth others in his class. I told him to enjoy his success while it lasted because nothing lasts forever.You could tell by his response that he didn't think anyone would ever catch him.
Congratulations you did!
Now set the example and you will earn the respect of your fellow racers and the fans. (I'm not saying that you did anything wrong.I don't like flat black either) But some might consider the remark as a shot at Chuck and consider it boasting.

Congratulations Again!


bingo we have a winner
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/15/10 07:27 PM

Anyone talk to Buckey lately? What is he doing for this year?
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/15/10 08:05 PM

So I don't like flat black on an expensive race car.
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/15/10 09:33 PM

Quote:

i talked to charllie,, he said no...


he says he is up some hp,, still working,, i havent worked on mine since october... have work to do you know...

brian hard is a new barton customer

stephen hebert is having david reher from reher-morrison go through his stuff now...




Didn't Charlie build the motors for Hard, and Hebert?
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/15/10 11:23 PM

Quote:

Anyone talk to Buckey lately? What is he doing for this year?




Building a really cool Hemi powered rat rod to cruise around in.
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/16/10 01:08 AM

30's Ford with a 392 I believe. He also got himself a B029 car............ to race!
Posted By: SSHemi364

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/16/10 02:29 AM

BO23???? You mean BO29?
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/16/10 01:41 PM

oh yes. sorry I forgot it for a second lol. I'll correct it.
Posted By: estcsthemi18

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/16/10 11:07 PM

Actually, it's the "Meanfish"
Posted By: dragonfish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/17/10 01:56 PM

FOR SALE ON RACINGJUNK.COM

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Posted By: moparspiker

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/17/10 10:06 PM

Flat black that sounds like grocery getter paint job or a lowrider
Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/19/10 01:34 AM

You know with these cars running so fast and nobody wants to think about it, but look at this old snap shot of pictures in my scrap book of Ron Mancini crashing at Indy 1976 and just think how much faster these factory race cars are going now and something like this happens, ouch!
BTW, this is what started the window net era also

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Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/19/10 02:11 AM

Wow! I quit.
Posted By: mr_340

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/19/10 02:40 AM

Quote:

You know with these cars running so fast and nobody wants to think about it, but look at this old snap shot of pictures in my scrap book of Ron Mancini crashing at Indy 1976 and just think how much faster these factory race cars are going now and something like this happens, ouch!
BTW, this is what started the window net era also




It looks like it held up better than the red Barracuda from a few years back. Probably 20 MPH difference in speed though.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/19/10 04:01 AM

rons oil filter wasnt tight,,, after that he would put a hose clamp around the filter with a wire under it, then bolted to something so the filter couldnt move once clamped
Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/20/10 03:42 PM

Didn't Ronnie and Dean Nicopolis have "an accident" in the turn off area in the 70's???
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/20/10 06:44 PM

Quote:

Didn't Ronnie and Dean Nicopolis have "an accident" in the turn off area in the 70's???




I thought Dean hit Jack Wearst car that Kenny was driving.
Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/20/10 07:05 PM

That very well could have been it. I was there with a SS/B 64 Plymouth, but didn't see the cars.
Posted By: King Cuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/22/10 08:48 PM

I have FREE hemi calendars to anyone that wants one .Just send a self addressed envelope with postage on it and I will mail right out. Buckys ltd.35 restoration st. martinsburg,w.v.25404
Posted By: King Cuda

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/22/10 09:04 PM

#7 of the decade from Mopar performance. Not to Bad
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=197830&Filter=30#indextop
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/22/10 11:23 PM

im wondering if there will be a charlie fest 2010. if so id like to puchase a shirt please.
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/22/10 11:48 PM

Quote:

#7 of the decade from Mopar performance. Not to Bad
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=197830&Filter=30#indextop




Thats cool...always good to get some ink like that!
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/23/10 01:05 AM

Quote:

I have FREE hemi calendars to anyone that wants one .Just send a self addressed envelope with postage on it and I will mail right out. Buckys ltd.35 restoration st. martinsburg,w.v.25404




What size envelope do I need to send??
Posted By: tboomer

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/23/10 07:33 AM

Details,Bucky!! I missed out on last years..envelope size and postage...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/23/10 01:05 PM

i sent out a prepaid envelope out last year and never got my calendar.
Posted By: Mr. Smurf

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/24/10 03:49 AM

Quote:

#7 of the decade from Mopar performance. Not to Bad
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=197830&Filter=30#indextop




I'd forgot that it was you and Jim in the finals.

Ed
Posted By: moparspiker

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/24/10 11:03 PM

u got the best lookin cuda least it aint flat black or camo
Posted By: Troy

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/25/10 01:55 AM

Quote:

Quote:

#7 of the decade from Mopar performance. Not to Bad
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=197830&Filter=30#indextop




I'd forgot that it was you and Jim in the finals.

Ed




I'm sorry but that list pissed me off. I'm happy the Buckey made the list but it made no mention about Darren Smith winning the Super Stock Championship in 07. That was the first Championship that a Mopar one in like ten+/- years!!

OK, back to the suject at hand...
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/25/10 03:56 AM



Posted By: Mancini Racing

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/25/10 10:51 PM

Right on Troy.

The fact that Darren Smith did with a '68 440 Dart is even cooler.

I remember looking at the Dart at the Vegas national event a few years back and was taken back on how small the Carter AVS looked on top of the Edelbrock Victor Intake!
Posted By: Michael

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/25/10 11:07 PM

Quote:

i sent out a prepaid envelope out last year and never got my calendar.


Same here
Posted By: 64HemiSavoy

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/26/10 01:46 AM

Quote:

i sent out a prepaid envelope out last year and never got my calendar.





Quote:

BO23???? You mean BO29?





You guys are a piece of work, Bucky has done more to place the SS/AH cars at the forefront and you guys want to bash because he does not have a never ending supply of free calendars I am sure he supplies what he has left first come first serve.
You should appreciate the fact that he tries to give away some to Moparts members.
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/26/10 05:17 AM

I GOT MINE FROM BUCKEY LAST YEAR THANKS ED
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/26/10 01:04 PM

Quote:

Quote:

i sent out a prepaid envelope out last year and never got my calendar.





Quote:

BO23???? You mean BO29?





You guys are a piece of work, Bucky has done more to place the SS/AH cars at the forefront and you guys want to bash because he does not have a never ending supply of free calendars I am sure he supplies what he has left first come first serve.
You should appreciate the fact that he tries to give away some to Moparts members.




Hey, I made an honest mistake typing BO23. I had forgotten which was which . Bucky told me himself that he had gotten the car.
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/26/10 01:10 PM

Buckey, first congratulations! How about saving 3 for you friends at the WV Hillbilly. You deserve thr recognition.
Posted By: gmoore

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 01/27/10 04:09 AM

always enjoy talking to bucky. so, any predictions on participation in the 2010 shootouts?? 2009 was very interesting. also any info on the cajun's ?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock SUPERBOWL - 01/29/10 03:14 PM

Breaking news. Hell is frozen! Saints in Superbowl and Mass. elected a Republican????

Don Bales and Paul Wilson each have $1 on the Colts. I have to go with the Saints....

I would take others but this is not a bookie site.

As for AH news, planning on Belle Rose and Vegas in March and Spring Nationals after that (if running).
Posted By: mr_340

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock SUPERBOWL - 01/29/10 04:50 PM

Hmmm...Maybe I should put some money on the Cubs to win the World Series? Geaux 'aints!
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock SUPERBOWL - 01/31/10 01:04 AM

Wow! Bickering about "pretty car" calendars, super bowl banter.... it will be nice when CW comes out and grabs the top spot so all will be correct with the world.
Posted By: ro23car

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock SUPERBOWL - 02/02/10 03:05 AM

Quote:

Wow! Bickering about "pretty car" calendars, super bowl banter.... it will be nice when CW comes out and grabs the top spot so all will be correct with the world.


are you smokin dope?
Posted By: crossram

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock SUPERBOWL - 02/03/10 08:39 PM

Just a note to fellow SS/AH racers. Jim Keyes had aortic valve replacement surgery today in Lansing,MI. Surgery went well and Jim is resting. Cards and well wishes can be sent to :

Jim Keyes
4800 E. Newberry Rd.
Durand , MI 48429
Posted By: StewartP

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock SUPERBOWL - 02/03/10 08:52 PM

Our prayers and hope go out to him, for a speedy and complete recovery.

StewartP
Posted By: SSAHHemiFan

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/03/10 11:47 PM

Would it be to much trouble to see some SS/AH photos?
Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/04/10 12:08 AM

Okey Dokey

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Posted By: Frito

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/04/10 12:09 AM

Nudder

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Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/04/10 12:39 AM

Jim Keyes fixing a rocker problem with a special Hemi tool. Get better Jim!

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Posted By: Mr. Smurf

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock SUPERBOWL - 02/04/10 01:28 PM

Thanks for the update!
Get well quick, Jim.

Ed
Posted By: nitrojoe

Mopars At The Strip 2010 - 02/05/10 07:43 AM

Hey SS/AH Drivers, Phil Painter is needing to get a head count on who all is coming to Vegas for the MATS event in March.
E-mail me or post on here that your coming.
Posted By: Bill Kraft

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/06/10 12:51 AM

Here's another.

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Posted By: Bill Kraft

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/06/10 12:57 AM

At TMP this summer.

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Posted By: gmoore

Re: Mopars At The Strip 2010 - 02/06/10 01:31 AM

hey joe, any word on the entry fee? thanks
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Mopars At The Strip 2010 - 02/06/10 03:11 AM

Quote:

Hey SS/AH Drivers, Phil Painter is needing to get a head count on who all is coming to Vegas for the MATS event in March.
E-mail me or post on here that your coming.




I should be there after Belle Rose.

Hey Genuine Rocker! Saints win, you shave your head at Indy (if they have a big trash can, Ha!). Colts win, I shave mine????? In Miami now, just let me know. Bales as well???
Posted By: clydesdale

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/06/10 05:42 AM

A note to clarify what caused Ron's accident, the oil filter on his car was tight, the fitting in the Milodon pump that the filter threads onto, backed out.
Posted By: 67HEMI

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/06/10 02:56 PM

Any idea on how many AH cars will be at Belle Rose? We are driving down to spectate.
Posted By: Frito

Re: Mopars At The Strip 2010 - 02/07/10 04:40 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Hey SS/AH Drivers, Phil Painter is needing to get a head count on who all is coming to Vegas for the MATS event in March.
E-mail me or post on here that your coming.




I should be there after Belle Rose.

Hey Genuine Rocker! Saints win, you shave your head at Indy (if they have a big trash can, Ha!). Colts win, I shave mine????? In Miami now, just let me know. Bales as well???


Now Rocker, that I would pay to see. Bales??, could you really tell and you would cover up with that favorite yellow hat!!!!!
Posted By: genuinerocker

Re: Mopars At The Strip 2010 - 02/07/10 09:02 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Hey SS/AH Drivers, Phil Painter is needing to get a head count on who all is coming to Vegas for the MATS event in March.
E-mail me or post on here that your coming.




I should be there after Belle Rose.

Hey Genuine Rocker! Saints win, you shave your head at Indy (if they have a big trash can, Ha!). Colts win, I shave mine????? In Miami now, just let me know. Bales as well???



I can't speak for Bales, but I will take you up on that! And take it just a step further... We will do it on the starting line at Indy, you will have to wear a COLTS Jersey as we shave you.... and if I lose I will do so in a Saints Jersey and also donate my hair to "Locks of Love" a non-profit organization that provides hair (wigs) for children who have developed long term medical hair loss.....
Posted By: SSAHHemiFan

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/08/10 12:50 AM

Thank you Bill Kraft! I made another link for photos.. Post some more for us

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post5779900
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: Mopars At The Strip 2010 - 02/08/10 02:47 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Hey SS/AH Drivers, Phil Painter is needing to get a head count on who all is coming to Vegas for the MATS event in March.
E-mail me or post on here that your coming.




I should be there after Belle Rose.

Hey Genuine Rocker! Saints win, you shave your head at Indy (if they have a big trash can, Ha!). Colts win, I shave mine????? In Miami now, just let me know. Bales as well???



I can't speak for Bales, but I will take you up on that! And take it just a step further... We will do it on the starting line at Indy, you will have to wear a COLTS Jersey as we shave you.... and if I lose I will do so in a Saints Jersey and also donate my hair to "Locks of Love" a non-profit organization that provides hair (wigs) for children who have developed long term medical hair loss.....




Sorry to see you lose your locks, Paul! Our Colts blew it this time. I will be there to see it for sure! I sent my hair to Locks of Love a few years ago, so good for you!
Posted By: jake4cars

Re: Mopars At The Strip 2010 - 02/09/10 11:28 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Hey SS/AH Drivers, Phil Painter is needing to get a head count on who all is coming to Vegas for the MATS event in March.
E-mail me or post on here that your coming.




I should be there after Belle Rose.

Hey Genuine Rocker! Saints win, you shave your head at Indy (if they have a big trash can, Ha!). Colts win, I shave mine????? In Miami now, just let me know. Bales as well???



I can't speak for Bales, but I will take you up on that! And take it just a step further... We will do it on the starting line at Indy, you will have to wear a COLTS Jersey as we shave you.... and if I lose I will do so in a Saints Jersey and also donate my hair to "Locks of Love" a non-profit organization that provides hair (wigs) for children who have developed long term medical hair loss.....




I am donating $100 to locks of love in the name of this thread.

Joey
Posted By: 70RunR

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/10/10 03:26 AM

Beautiful car. Big 2010 season planned?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/11/10 12:01 AM

Bucky, i got my Calendar, thanks for your professionalism!
your cuda looks great.
Posted By: Bill Kraft

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/11/10 01:02 AM

We'll see. Found out I've got rusty cylinder walls, free water injection, loose epoxy in the cracked intake manifold, worn out cam drive, out of round roller lifters riding on a small camshaft, along with a couple of pistons shaking hands with some valves. I plan on getting it corrected and then run some divisionals, shootouts, and if the point count is high enough..Indy. I'm sure you'll take care of it.
Posted By: crossram

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/13/10 01:46 AM

This is a message from Jim Keyes.

I would like to thanks all fellow racers and friends that sent cards and well wishes to me since my surgery. They meant a lot to me. Thanks again ..

Jim
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/14/10 05:31 PM

clutchless transmissions are legal in super stock and i believe stock now...

you can now run a clutchless 4spd trans at a 40lb weight break from an automatic in a 68 hemi car

auto 3210lbs
clutchless 4spd 3170
Posted By: Defbob

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/14/10 05:55 PM

Jeff, gonna switch to a stick now?
Posted By: cgall

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/14/10 06:08 PM

I take it that means the trans can be shifted without using the clutch, not that planetary transmissions are legal.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/14/10 07:23 PM

im not switching to a stick,, i have too many other things to work out


a 100% clutchless trans is legal,,, im not up on trans stuff to say what type,, basically you can run a trans from a pro stock car if its a 4 spd
Posted By: gmoore

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/15/10 04:33 AM

little gain, we don't use the clutch anyway.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/15/10 10:31 PM

If there is no major gain then why do people use them?

I guess its not a gain for the guys that were using them already. It sounds like NHRA just doesn't want to take the time to check.

What's next? No fuel check?
Posted By: gmoore

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/16/10 02:06 AM

i put a 4 speed in mine to run ss/a, not ss/aa. nhra messed up my sandbox. lol. however the shootouts are super.you folks have proven that the pro trans is quicker.are any of your bunch going to the cajan's?
Posted By: David Barton

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/16/10 10:28 PM

The plan is to have a few cars at the Cajun's. Nothing is written in stone yet.

How did anyone prove the pro trans is quicker? If anyone would know it would be Westcott. And considering he built his new car into a 4-speed I'm assuming that's the way to go. Especially being 40 lbs lighter and clutchless.

Only time will tell. I'm excited to see how they run. It will be very interesting.
Posted By: gmoore

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/17/10 03:49 AM

the stick cars are a pleasure to drive. you actually get to do something(fun). charlie was a puzzle, since sr's car is a stick. one of each would seem to make more sense for testing. i agree with you, it will be interesting. really hope to see you at bell rose.
Posted By: genuinerocker

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/18/10 12:27 AM

I talked with Phil Painter today about his show at Vegas. $7500 to win with a 500 dollar entry fee and a 16 car field. I am kind of curious as to who is heading to Vegas after Belle Rose?
What kind of car count will No Problem get as well as the car count in Vegas? From what Phil told me, it sounds like a lot of the West Coast racers will be in Vegas , and there seems to be interest from several on the East Coast as well...How about it Dart dude? Any plans for the Barton Camp in Vegas?
Last I heard from Hebert he was in for both. I know it is an extremely expensive trip out to Vegas but I hope to see a huge field out west........
Posted By: badwej

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/19/10 09:20 AM

New car from Toronto Ontario coming out this year

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Posted By: HEMIDOG 70

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/19/10 09:45 PM

Got my calendar too many thanks to Bucky.
Posted By: moparspiker

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/20/10 07:55 PM

THANKS FOR THE SUPERSTOCK CALENDAR BUCKY
Posted By: badwej

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/21/10 12:01 AM

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New car from Toronto Ontario coming out this year




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Posted By: badwej

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/21/10 12:02 AM

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New car from Toronto Ontario coming out this year







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Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/21/10 10:32 PM

Quote:

I talked with Phil Painter today about his show at Vegas. $7500 to win with a 500 dollar entry fee and a 16 car field. I am kind of curious as to who is heading to Vegas after Belle Rose?
What kind of car count will No Problem get as well as the car count in Vegas? From what Phil told me, it sounds like a lot of the West Coast racers will be in Vegas , and there seems to be interest from several on the East Coast as well...How about it Dart dude? Any plans for the Barton Camp in Vegas?
Last I heard from Hebert he was in for both. I know it is an extremely expensive trip out to Vegas but I hope to see a huge field out west........




Looks like no sponsor money for Belle Rose. I heard each racer could put $500 (after NHRA entry) and we could do a 70/30 payout. Any takers? I will be there if motor finished.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - 02/25/10 04:08 AM

Guess that is a NO!. So, added several recalled Toyoto gas pedals(sudden acceleration to 100 mph) to the Phish. Results next month!
Posted By: Quiksilver II

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/26/10 02:47 AM

I don't care I just want to see an "A" car run a .39. Is the Pennsylvania meet not connected to the NHRA MEET?

Rick.
Posted By: wldtm

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/26/10 08:03 PM

Thanks Bucky for the calendars...

Dan & Justin Morgan
Posted By: DusterDog

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 02/27/10 12:50 AM

Hey Bucky,

Thanks for the calendars & the T-shirt!!!!

Dog
Posted By: Dyno1

Congratulations toTim Hebert - 03/08/10 12:31 AM


BATON ROUGE, La. - Results of final, round 5 eliminations in Super Stock at the 2010 Nitro Jam Series, IHRA Mardi Gras Nitro Jam:

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
4420 Tim Hebert 4166 Larry Stewart
E5 ****WINNER**** 0.020 8.889 141.48 0.034 9.799 132.21
SS/AA Dial: 8.86 (+/-): 0.029 SS/GA Dial: 9.77 (+/-): 0.029
Prior rounds:
E4 (J TEUTON ) 0.021 8.863 -1.087 0.029 9.985 0.985
E3 0.043 13.521 4.721 (L CUMMINGS ) 0.043 9.806 0.046
E2 (M BRASWELL ) 0.038 8.869 0.019 (M FAUL ) 0.028 9.765 -0.005
E1 (A GUILARD ) 0.054 8.855 0.005 (S BONNECARRE) -0.003 9.789 0.089
Qualified: #7 8.868 -1.082 #8 9.780 -1.070
Posted By: 67HEMI

Re: Congratulations toTim Hebert - 03/09/10 01:50 PM

Congrats on the win Tim!
Posted By: joe teuton

Re: Congratulations toTim Hebert - 03/09/10 04:46 PM

i guess we still have a few guys in this class WHO can win some rounds.
Posted By: cgall

Re: Congratulations toTim Hebert - 03/09/10 05:14 PM

Great job guys! Love to see Hemi cars whomping on Modified Eliminator Chevys.
Posted By: sshemifan

Re: Congratulations toTim Hebert - 03/10/10 06:58 AM

Quote:

i guess we still have a few guys in this class WHO can win some rounds.




Congrats to Tim---Welcome to Lil Joe!!!

Joe, I have a question--looking at the engine pictures of your cars in the "Welcome to Lil Joe Teuton" thread, they seem to have an "old school" cross ram setup on them. Last time I saw the cars, they had more of an inline tunnel ram setup. What's the story with that???

Regards, John
Posted By: gmoore

Re: Congratulations toTim Hebert - 03/12/10 03:21 AM

way to go, tim. wish i could have been there to see it! gary
Posted By: nitrojoe

Great News coming tomorrow for the 2010 MATS Hemi SO - 03/12/10 03:45 AM

We are going to be making an announcement with end 24 hrs from now about the MATS 2010 Hemi Shootout, its GREAT NEWS also!!

Get those bags packed as tomorrow Phil & myself will get the I’’s dotted and T’s crossed and I’ll be able to let things out of the bag tomorrow afternoon.

So pack the bags and loads them cars up.

Hey Gary Moore, get that car ready now !

Nitro Joe
Posted By: joe teuton

Re: Congratulations toTim Hebert - 03/12/10 03:59 PM

JOHN,THOSE MOTORS ARE OUR BRACKET RACING SET UP.AND MAKE ONLY 790-800 HP SHIFTING THEM ABOUT 7600RPM WITH A 5.29 GEAR IN REAR END.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Great News coming tomorrow for the 2010 MATS Hemi SO - 03/13/10 01:02 AM

Quote:

We are going to be making an announcement with end 24 hrs from now about the MATS 2010 Hemi Shootout, its GREAT NEWS also!!

Get those bags packed as tomorrow Phil & myself will get the I’’s dotted and T’s crossed and I’ll be able to let things out of the bag tomorrow afternoon.

So pack the bags and loads them cars up.

Hey Gary Moore, get that car ready now !

Nitro Joe




Vegas is cool but I hope we get a decent turnout down here in La. next weekend. I see four La. cars listed on NHRA site. Lets get some cars from that Indy area down here. Superbowl has come and gone, time to Hemi race.
Posted By: nitrojoe

Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/13/10 01:13 AM

ok,I have sent e-mails to everybodys e-mail that i know of that races SS/AH.
If you didnt recieve an e-mail, e-mail me at nitrojoe@neo.rr.com and I'll send the whole details to you.
Here is a few changes made, entry fee has been taken care of
Free Catered meal on Friday night for the drivers and their crew members
$1000 for Low Qualifier
New Sponsors of the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout
Michael Ogburn Racing (West Coast Hemi's), California Financial Services,
US Bank
Piper/Jaffray
over $7000 in payout.
Be THERE !!!!!

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Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: Great News coming tomorrow for the 2010 MATS Hemi SO - 03/13/10 01:13 AM

I think we're gonna see a bumper crop of SS/AA to SS/da B body Hemi cars this year!! Overdue. I vote them in Hemi Challenges. Time to get rid of my bracket motor!

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Posted By: gmoore

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/13/10 01:56 AM

hey joe, pistons finally came today. are working like dogs to get things right. will try our best to make it. gary
Posted By: camdog440

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/13/10 10:30 PM

No Problem is also advertising a Hemi Shootout next weekend at the Cajun Sports Nationals in Belle Rose Louisiana.


Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/17/10 04:36 AM

Is going to be in Vegas????
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/18/10 12:27 AM

CW or anyone in contact with CW,

what does the Warpath schedule look like? No Problem this weekend? Vegas? Any HP gains?

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about. Give it to me.......who is going to Belle Rose? Who is going to Vegas?

We're 2 hours down the road now with Daniels car and about 18 hours to go until Lousiana. We couldn't make it out with Wolkwitz's new piece just yet but so far it looks good for Vegas. Only time will tell.

Only 19 hours till big Jim goes phishing......
Big Jim is strickly on a fish diet this year to maintain his fat figure. He prefers Barracuda's, but he really likes warfish. Yum yum eat 'em up.

Give me that Filet O Fish.....give me that fish....do do do. Two for 3 bucks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIq92yp_a0c
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/18/10 01:35 AM

Quote:

CW or anyone in contact with CW,

what does the Warpath schedule look like? No Problem this weekend? Vegas? Any HP gains?

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about. Give it to me.......who is going to Belle Rose? Who is going to Vegas?

We're 2 hours down the road now with Daniels car and about 18 hours to go until Lousiana. We couldn't make it out with Wolkwitz's new piece just yet but so far it looks good for Vegas. Only time will tell.




My intel, which is good since in the business,says camo ***********>. Plenty of local camo in the stands. You and Jim also have no Louisiana passports according to my sources, so when you get to the La. Welcome Center on 59 say Codename SPYPHISH and your in. I am running but have a home improvement gig going. If I can get a qual in Sat AM I could test and shootout before heading west. Jim and you going to Vegas, stay at my house?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/18/10 03:22 AM

Quote:

CW or anyone in contact with CW,

what does the Warpath schedule look like? No Problem this weekend? Vegas? Any HP gains?

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about. Give it to me.......who is going to Belle Rose? Who is going to Vegas?

We're 2 hours down the road now with Daniels car and about 18 hours to go until Lousiana. We couldn't make it out with Wolkwitz's new piece just yet but so far it looks good for Vegas. Only time will tell.

Only 19 hours till big Jim goes phishing......
Big Jim is strickly on a fish diet this year to maintain his fat figure. He prefers Barracuda's, but he really likes warfish. Yum yum eat 'em up.

Give me that Filet O Fish.....give me that fish....do do do. Two for 3 bucks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIq92yp_a0c




Now that's funny BuBa! Keep driving while I am sleeping and play the "Name Game" song with Dart. That should get you ready for a Phishing trip in La . I be gettin' up early now to pour some 'crete.

PS Ask Jim if I need to loan him a street car as he was a GREAT host at Dutch???
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/18/10 08:31 PM

Quote:

CW or anyone in contact with CW,

what does the Warpath schedule look like? No Problem this weekend? Vegas? Any HP gains?

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about. Give it to me.......who is going to Belle Rose? Who is going to Vegas?

We're 2 hours down the road now with Daniels car and about 18 hours to go until Lousiana. We couldn't make it out with Wolkwitz's new piece just yet but so far it looks good for Vegas. Only time will tell.

Only 19 hours till big Jim goes phishing......
Big Jim is strickly on a fish diet this year to maintain his fat figure. He prefers Barracuda's, but he really likes warfish. Yum yum eat 'em up.

Give me that Filet O Fish.....give me that fish....do do do. Two for 3 bucks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIq92yp_a0c


Fillet-o-fish.....

You been drinkin'???
Posted By: Spyphish

Belle Rose - 03/19/10 01:42 AM

Spy photos show six cars parked tonight.

Mr. Joe Tueton III
Mr. Tim Herbert (just kidding) Hebert
Mr. Steve Kent
Mr. Wendell Howes
Mr. Bill Brooks
and last but not least
Mr. Jack, I mean, Jim Daniels.

I hope to make after lunch as I see a Sat AM qual. Jim save me a parking spot. Stephen
Posted By: Frito

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/19/10 01:44 AM

I just got this info on Daniels at Bell Rose. Two runs, 8.30 & 8.33.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/19/10 01:46 AM

Wow, thanks. Save me some fuel!!
Posted By: Frito

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/19/10 01:50 AM

C25 @ $5.00 a gallon?? David must have had some help from the "Jet Crew". I won't be at Vegas but I stll have the "Crown" for later on this year!!

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Posted By: mcmanus2301

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/19/10 04:01 AM

Hey, Spyphish. Your fan club is waiting for you at the gate! You are only two and half hours away with a fresh engine!!! What's the hold up?
Posted By: ro23car

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/19/10 07:27 PM

Quote:

CW or anyone in contact with CW,

what does the Warpath schedule look like? No Problem this weekend? Vegas? Any HP gains?

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about. Give it to me.......who is going to Belle Rose? Who is going to Vegas?

We're 2 hours down the road now with Daniels car and about 18 hours to go until Lousiana. We couldn't make it out with Wolkwitz's new piece just yet but so far it looks good for Vegas. Only time will tell.

Only 19 hours till big Jim goes phishing......
Big Jim is strickly on a fish diet this year to maintain his fat figure. He prefers Barracuda's, but he really likes warfish. Yum yum eat 'em up.

Give me that Filet O Fish.....give me that fish....do do do. Two for 3 bucks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIq92yp_a0c


you need to lay off the caffine
Posted By: Frito

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/19/10 11:22 PM

The caffine must work. Daniels just went 8.29!!!
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 12:11 AM

We heard from the Barton camp the car was spinning down track and they were hoping for better traction tomorrow....WOW.
Posted By: camdog440

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 12:18 AM

Will the ss/ah cars run on Sunday also... or is tomorrow their last day to run?

Posted By: David Barton

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 12:22 AM

Daniels slip from today

R/T -.005
60' 1.223 back tires, convert to 1.12
330' 3.353
660' 5.242
MPH 129.63
1000' 6.892
1320' 8.298
MPH 159.61

66 degrees, 45% humidity, 30.08 barometer, 557' DA

Check out the video footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFlLsb5nDcA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-dhnenz42c
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 12:28 AM

Quote:

Will the ss/ah cars run on Sunday also... or is tomorrow their last day to run?






We only plan to run the shootout on Saturday because we all have to get back to work by Monday. It took us 21.5 hours to get here from our shop. Plus if everything goes as planned the rig has to leave on Tuesday for Vegas.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 12:47 AM

That in car video is amazing!!!!!
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 01:19 AM

Quote:

That in car video is amazing!!!!!




Gave me goosebumps. Of course, I'm admittedly having withdrawals.

Sounds like a modified motor. Gotta hand it to the Barton crew.
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 01:40 AM

Yep I had to put that on full screen and crank the speakers up....watch it two times !! YEEha
Posted By: 67HEMI

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 02:54 AM

Man that is awesome . Hope to see them in person tomorrow. Goodluck to all the Mopars at Belle Rose
Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/20/10 03:57 PM

Hey this is Nitro Joe Jackson, race director for the MATS event, hope you all have a safe trip to the race this weekend, I'll always be around if you need something and i know some of you know i try like heck to help everyone out.
Here is a list of the drivers coming for the SS/AH Hemi Shootout
Jim Daniels (went 8.29 this past weekend at Belle Rose)
Dave Raybourn
Chuck Rayborn
John Raines
Skip Loeffler
West Coast Hemi’s (3 cars)
Gary Moore
Fred Henson
Steve Hebert
Gary Wolkowiz
Charlie Westcott Jr
Mike Booker
Jon Percy
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Belle Rose - 03/22/10 01:22 PM

Quote:

Spy photos show six cars parked tonight.

Mr. Joe Tueton III
Mr. Tim Herbert (just kidding) Hebert
Mr. Steve Kent
Mr. Wendell Howes
Mr. Bill Brooks
and last but not least
Mr. Jack, I mean, Jim Daniels.


I have not seen any results from class run off on saturday. Did I miss something?
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Belle Rose - 03/22/10 03:10 PM

They cancelled the SS/AH runoffs for Saturday due to the weather. Jim Daniels was the low SS/AH qualifier, so they gave him the trophy, Gary.
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: Belle Rose - 03/23/10 01:19 PM

great to see the West Coast Hemi cars are out a again. Who is doing their motors now that Harry has retired.
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: Belle Rose - 03/23/10 01:50 PM

I was wondering the same thing since Julie said a few months ago that they are no longer involved.

Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: Belle Rose - 03/23/10 03:26 PM

Well I've not spoken to Michael Ogburn in a year so don't profess to know much of what is going on with the WCH's. To my knowledge, two of the cars have Dad's motors in them. They are, obviously, not "new" technology and the newest of them was built in 2004. Jerry Jenkins' car will have a motor built by Eric Jones in it. Jerry's car is also sporting new paint, similar to the other two cars. We've not had the cars since September so I don't know anything that has transpired to the cars/motors since then.
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: Belle Rose - 03/24/10 11:55 AM

Julie, how is Harry doing?
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: Belle Rose - 03/24/10 02:16 PM

Quote:

Julie, how is Harry doing?




He's doing good. He's been cleaning out the shop, selling old hemi parts, "downsizing". He bowls a lot so he's turned his competitive juices in that direction. He reads a lot now, which he never did, it was always cars! I'm sure he's driving my Mom crazy because he's home a lot more than he ever has been! He's going to be 79, has slowed down but we'll have him for many more years. Thanks, so much, for asking!
Posted By: B Dartman

Re: Belle Rose - 03/25/10 10:54 AM

Any Super Stock racers near Wichita Kansas?

Here's a flyer for an event coming up at Wichita's Kansas International Raceway (1/4 mile)

While it's not a huge event, it sure would be great to see some Hemi power show up.

Select tab for Event Flyers and see April 17th for details:

Kansas International Dragway
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: Belle Rose - 03/25/10 09:36 PM

Anyone have any times from Vegas yet?
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Belle Rose - 03/25/10 11:53 PM

The TNT didn't start until around 4. CWJ went up but I don't think anything substantial happened. Booker and Daniels will go up soon. So far that is all that I know
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: Belle Rose - 03/25/10 11:54 PM

Thanks Ben!

I heard CW Jr. blew the tires off "bad." I'm sure he'll get it figured out.
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 12:18 AM

Daniels - 8.63 @ 156
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 12:42 AM

Booker 8.83 152
Rains 8.9? Looked like a shut off run
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 12:48 AM

CW Jr. 8.58 @ 157
Posted By: 340Cuda

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 01:24 AM

Quote:

Any Super Stock racers near Wichita Kansas?

Here's a flyer for an event coming up at Wichita's Kansas International Raceway (1/4 mile)

While it's not a huge event, it sure would be great to see some Hemi power show up.

Select tab for Event Flyers and see April 17th for details:

Kansas International Dragway




Here is a link to the poster in a PDF file.

http://www.kidragway.com/fliers/2010%20Stock%20Super%20Stock%20Combo.pdf
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 02:03 AM

Quote:

CW Jr. 8.58 @ 157




Atta boy wescott...

Is pancake there?

Casey
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 02:57 AM

No casey, jim's stuff isn't together

Btw. CWJ 8.54 @ 157.71
Posted By: fascat

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 10:58 AM

BEN THIS IS FASCAT FROM SOUTH LA. THE SPY FISHS
TERRITORY. HOW DOES THE CW 8.54 PASS FACTOR TO
DANIELS 8.29 RUN AT BELLE ROSE LAST WEEKEND? WISH I WAS IN VEGAS WITH YOUALL BUT???. TALK LATER
fascat--SOUTH LA. STYLE
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Belle Rose - 03/26/10 05:51 PM

Order (based off my notes). Daniels didn't make the first session

CWJ. 8.51 @ 156.40
Hebert. 8.71
Booker. 8.77
Jon Percy. 8.83
West Coast Hemi(didn't get the name). 8.88
Raindance. 8.89
C. Rayburn. 8.91
J. Jenkins. 9.06
Henson. 9.16
S. Loeffler. 9.26
G. Moore. 9.34
Ogburn. 9.93
D. Raybourn. 10.98
Vierra. 11.99

Should run again 1 and 4 vegas time

Beautiful weather, beautiful track. We miss you Pancake!!!!!:)
Posted By: fascat

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/26/10 08:41 PM

WHAT HAPPENED TO HEBERT ON 2 ND. QUAL. ATTEMPT
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/26/10 09:20 PM

There are two cars with #7301 in the window. The one with more red on it is actually Tony Mandella. The other is Jerry Jenkins.

Tony ran the 8.88.

FYI.
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/26/10 09:22 PM

We tried the shotgun effect on Hebert's (changed 17 things) and it spun to a 8.90.

Nothing too substantial, most everyone slowed down a few that made good runs this morning.

CWJ went .54
D. Raybourn picked up 9.06
Vierra picked up 9.03
Henson went 8.87
Rains picked up 8.78

My fault earlier, the third WCH car is driven by Tony Mandella.

Current ladder is

CWJ .51
A-Bear .71
booker .77
rains .78
percy .83
henson .87
mandella.88
rayburn .91
viera 9.03
d.raybourn 9.06
jenkins 9.06
loeffler 9.26
moore 9.30
ogburn 9.93

I need to get back to work
Posted By: fascat

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/26/10 10:06 PM

THANKS A TON FOR UPDATES BEN. I AM WATCHING ON LIVE FEED ON INTERNET BUT AUDIO IS SHAKY AT BEST.
LATER-- fascat-
Posted By: 3ddart

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 02:54 AM

i agree, thanks for letting those of us not fortunate to be there know what's happing! thank you ben! dave
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 02:06 PM

My daughter Sandra watched a live feed on 1320go.com/las vegas. Todays schedule is a test hit at 8:15, Rd1 @ 11:30; 2 @ 1; 3 @ 2:30; Final @ 4. Beautiful out here.
Posted By: StewartP

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 03:22 PM

is the "1320go.com" video or just the numbers ?
Posted By: B Dartman

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 04:15 PM

Here ya go Stewart...

Live Video Feed Link
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 04:21 PM

They got a "freebie" run this morning. Daniels & CW ran side-by-side.

CW 8.486 155.49
Daniels 8.545 154.71
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 04:46 PM

that run was cool.....pretty good headwind, too

ladder is:

CWJ vs bye
Percy vs Loeffler
Booker vs D Raybourn
Henson vs Ogburn
Hebert vs C Rayburn
Vierra vs Moore
Rains vs Jenkins
Mandella vs Daniels

Should be running first round around 1130 Vegas time
Posted By: fascat

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 05:42 PM

THANKS FOR POSTING RESULTS & PAIRINGS BEN. WISH I WAS THERE. TELL STEVEN TO BE COOL FOR 1 ST . RD. DON,T GET ANXIOUS.
LATER- fascat--
Posted By: dragonfish

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 07:29 PM

watched the 1st round of the HEMI SHOOTOUT on live cast-- question who is the announcer and y is he announcing? he said CWjr had the record and when u get back east the BARTON cars are fast, Mr. DANIELS is there, a BARTON car i do believe....
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 07:47 PM

HE may have meant CWJ has the MATS record. Daniels definitely has the NHRA record, but CWJ has the fastest run in Vegas...... i didn't here him, though

2nd round pairings and 1st round et's

CWJ clicked it early
Percy 8.89

D Raybourn 8.80
Henson 9.62

Hebert 8.74
Vierra 8.81

Rains 8.73
Daniels 8.52

2nd round around 1:30
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 10:19 PM

So what happen to Daniels ??? Looks like CW going to win this deal..
Posted By: island hemi

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 11:39 PM

The Wescotts win in Vegas Congrats
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 11:40 PM

Fast to....8.26 at sea level????
Posted By: crc

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 11:45 PM

Quote:

The Wescotts win in Vegas Congrats




Posted By: J_BODY

Re: LAS VEGAS - 03/27/10 11:52 PM

Way to GO !! All is right with the world again!
Posted By: W7_Scamp

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/28/10 01:41 AM

Quote:

CW or anyone in contact with CW,

what does the Warpath schedule look like? No Problem this weekend? Vegas? Any HP gains?

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about. Give it to me.......who is going to Belle Rose? Who is going to Vegas?

We're 2 hours down the road now with Daniels car and about 18 hours to go until Lousiana. We couldn't make it out with Wolkwitz's new piece just yet but so far it looks good for Vegas. Only time will tell.

Only 19 hours till big Jim goes phishing......
Big Jim is strickly on a fish diet this year to maintain his fat figure. He prefers Barracuda's, but he really likes warfish. Yum yum eat 'em up.

Give me that Filet O Fish.....give me that fish....do do do. Two for 3 bucks!

Warpath schedule looked pretty good! huh?
Big Jim better go on a diet of another kind looks like he needed to lose a little weight to keep up.

Looks like he'll be needin some JACK DANIELS to drink the blues away I don't know if they're 2 for 3 bucks or not.

Congrats CW

Yours truly W7 skank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIq92yp_a0c


Posted By: meanfish

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/28/10 11:45 PM

Just got home from the Strip and I would like to extend my thanks to all involved with a great event. Thanks to Phil Painter and Nitro Joe for their work and hospitality, Mr Ogburn for arrainging the sponsorship of the Hemi shootout, and to all of the guys who traveled from all areas of the country. My personal belief is that Mopar missed the boat for not including this event in their featured series. Congrats to Charlie on your win, you are definately fast young man.
Posted By: gmoore

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/29/10 02:42 AM

also just got home from vegas. great time with everyone. thanks to phil and nitro joe. wish everyone could have watched the race sat morn between charlie and jim. was a blast. jim won, charlie had low et. 2010 looks like a very fast year for hemi's. good luck to all.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/29/10 05:05 PM

Quote:

also just got home from vegas. great time with everyone. thanks to phil and nitro joe. wish everyone could have watched the race sat morn between charlie and jim. was a blast. jim won, charlie had low et. 2010 looks like a very fast year for hemi's. good luck to all.




Home in La. safe and sound. Ditto shout out to Painters, Nitro Joe and the Ogburn crew. Need that bean recipe. Thanks to all the racers for a good turnout. Congratulations on CWJ the win and a productive winter of work, he be fast""". Stephen
Posted By: fascat

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/29/10 06:32 PM

GREAT TO HEAR YOU MADE IT BACK TO LA. YOU CAN ALSO
BE PROUD OF YOUR CAR. JUST GOT TO BUCKLE UP & WATCH YOUR BULBS. GREAT CLASS OF CARS BUT WITH A FEW MISSING. LATER fascat
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/31/10 03:34 AM

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about? come on dart dude is your mouth still full of fish? tell us what happened
Posted By: REHBERGERRACING

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/31/10 08:49 PM

Quote:

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about? come on dart dude is your mouth still full of fish? tell us what happened



Posted By: pinkduster

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 03/31/10 09:15 PM

Quote:

Quote:

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about? come on dart dude is your mouth still full of fish? tell us what happened








Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 04/03/10 02:32 PM

....and the crowd goes silent!
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 04/03/10 03:59 PM

OK, here's the UNCLASSIFIED scoop! (only 4" tall Dartdude)

What's his name built me a whatcha'ma'call it.

Having a militia in Michigan right now could result in FBI investigation.

Last but not least, Island Hemi running "Little Blue Car" at Bowling Green in June. He will know when he reads this.

Have lots of other "scoop" but CLASSIFIED.....
Posted By: mr_340

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 04/03/10 07:12 PM

Quote:

Have lots of other "scoop" but CLASSIFIED.....




I had a TS/SCI clearance 30 years ago in the USAF. I definitely have the need to know, so send me an encrypted PM.

Ex PI

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Posted By: VernMotor

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/03/10 07:53 PM

I like to know what happen to Daniels out there ? did he break or not stage the car or What ???
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/03/10 09:11 PM

Quote:

I like to know what happen to Daniels out there ? did he break or not stage the car or What ???




I heard something about a broken piston.

David?
Posted By: 70RunR

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 04/03/10 10:42 PM

Like tumbleweeds in a deserted old town........
Posted By: Bob's71R/T

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/10 02:01 AM

isnt Autolite made by Ford?
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/10 03:28 PM

Quote:

isnt Autolite made by For
d
?



No it is a div. of honeywell. Motorcraft is ford.
Posted By: mr_340

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/07/10 11:18 PM

Quote:

isnt Autolite made by Ford?




Used to be owned by Ford in the 1960s. Now they sell Motorcraft as noted by Jake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcraft
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: 2010 - SS/AH - Super Stock - 04/08/10 02:56 AM

whers everyone at??????

when is the next race??
Posted By: moparspiker

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 04/10/10 12:47 PM

Quote:

What's the word on the street? I know you guys out there have something to gossip about? come on dart dude is your mouth still full of fish? tell us what happened


Posted By: B Dartman

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 04/11/10 01:58 AM

Well...while I'd be hard pressed to try and convince anyone to do the long haul to get here, there's a Stock Super/Stock Combo event in Wichita KS next weekend that may interest those who consider themselves nearby....follow the linky...

Kansas International Dragway

Wichita KS Ten Day Forcast Link
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: Great News for the 2010 MATS Hemi SS Shootout! - 04/11/10 11:31 PM

Is it a ho-hum that Wolkwitz ran 8.41 at Atco?
Posted By: mokid

Hemi SS Scoop - 04/13/10 09:36 PM

HI Guys Im currently running a R3 W8 motor in my 68 Barracuda until recently I had the SS Hood but after putting a CFE S/Metal intake on scoop sat right on top of carbs and vent tubes, I put a tall scoop on and I hate it, My question is how do you stuff that Hemi in with out clearance problems and do you know where I can get a taller SS scoop. Thanks C.Coco
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Hemi SS Scoop - 04/13/10 10:09 PM

You need to check with Dave Barton at Ray Barton's shop. I think the Mayhem Cuda had what you need last year at Indy. Good luck. SLH
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57

Re: Hemi SS Scoop - 04/13/10 10:30 PM

That's Hilarious!

Quote:

You need to check with Dave Barton at Ray Barton's shop. I think the Mayhem Cuda had what you need last year at Indy. Good luck. SLH


Posted By: island hemi

Re: Hemi SS Scoop - 04/13/10 10:33 PM

We lower the motor down till it clears. It works
Posted By: Frito

Re: Hemi SS Scoop - 04/14/10 02:12 AM

Posted By: jake4cars

Re: Hemi SS Scoop - 04/15/10 09:33 AM

Frito, please clean out your PM box
Posted By: Frito

Re: Hemi SS Scoop - 04/15/10 10:13 AM

Done
Posted By: jake4cars

Re: Hemi SS Scoop - 04/20/10 09:25 AM

FRITO, You are the man!!!!, Thank You!, hope to see you Saturday,

Joey
Posted By: David Barton

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/25/10 09:36 PM

Quote:

I like to know what happen to Daniels out there ? did he break or not stage the car or What ???




Now that I'm done chewing that fish here is the story.

Unfortunately Daniels dropped a valve during 2nd round. Damage really wasn't all that bad. While going through the motor we figured we might as well update it too. He'll miss Atco this weekend but will be out shortly after...we have lots of testing ahead of us. It will be well worth the wait.

Wolkwitz's car ran really well at the Atco Open Race except the fact that it kept spinning off the line. He ran 129.99 MPH in the 1/8 and 160+ in the 1/4 with a hefty headwind. I compared timeslips with Daniels and it was quicker than his record runs. Hopefully I'll have it sorted out this weekend at Atco.

We had Brian & Tyler Hard's car out yesterday for the first time. What a great bunch of people to race with....1st class. Its great to have them aboard.

For now we're using Wolkwitz's old piece to sort out the "Hard Attack" car. Unfortunately we spun on every run just like Wolkwitz's. But we managed to run an 8.48 @ 158 MPH with a 1.23 60'. Altogether it was a very productive outing considering it was the first time out with the car.

Congrats to CW on winning Vegas. I hope to see him at Atco this weekend to go for the record.
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/25/10 10:20 PM

Thank you for taking the time to explain..I was rooting for you guys
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/26/10 12:17 AM

That's exciting news! Me, I outran a Firebird and got a GP. Tell Bryan H. I was using Thumper.

See ya' at Indy.

You need cigars shipped to Atco, let me know.
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/26/10 12:22 AM

Stephen, looks like you're turning into a pretty good bracket racer.....:)

Sounds good, Dave. Those guys are absolutely top notch.
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/26/10 01:29 PM

How many AH cars showed up for the rainout in Indy this weekend? I haven't been able to find qualifying results for Super Stock.
Posted By: mr_340

Division 4 Races - 04/26/10 03:31 PM

I got to meet Spyphish at the Division 4 races this weekend. It was good talking to you and thanks for your hospitality. Good luck at Indy and maybe I'll see you back at Ennis in September?
Posted By: Mopar Grandpa

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/26/10 07:25 PM

Quote:

How many AH cars showed up for the rainout in Indy this weekend? I haven't been able to find qualifying results for Super Stock.


They didn't call SS to the lanes for any runs on Saturday and I understand there were some very upset racers and rightfully so. Some traveled a long way to just sit in their trailers while they called, and ran, some snowmobiles down the track.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL

Re: LAS VEGAS - 04/30/10 10:18 PM

Geoff Turk and Don Bales was it. SS was the only class that didn't get to make a run cause of the rain. They was in the lanes and up to the burnout box when the rains hit again. Race is rescheduled for May 21 & 22.
Posted By: longram60

Division 6 Qualifying - 05/01/10 04:56 PM

From Boise, Idaho:

23 6413 SS/AH Jon Percy, Pocatello ID, '64 Savoy 8.847 9.61 -0.763


Are '64 Plymouth's allowed in this class?
Posted By: mr_340

Re: Division 6 Qualifying - 05/01/10 05:20 PM

"Class SS/AH restricted to 1968 Plymouth Barracuda and 1968
Dodge Dart with Hemi engine (automatic and/or manual). These
vehicles restricted to this class only."

Jim Hale ran a 1964 Plymouth in SS/AA a couple of races ago and I believe Tony Depillo ran one too. Probably a typo, kind of like CWs engine is usually listed as a 426 Jeep or Caddy.
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: Division 6 Qualifying - 05/01/10 07:43 PM

Quote:

From Boise, Idaho:

23 6413 SS/AH Jon Percy, Pocatello ID, '64 Savoy 8.847 9.61 -0.763


Are '64 Plymouth's allowed in this class?





They have a Cuda now.
Posted By: RedRT

Re: ATCO - 05/01/10 08:38 PM

ATCO 5/1
Gary Wolkwitz 8.505
Bob Wolkwitz 8.707
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: ATCO - 05/02/10 12:03 AM

Picture of Cal and Jon Percy's SS/AH Barracuda. This is from the 2010 MATS. Last I heard, the plan was for Cal to start driving the '64 now that Jon is in the '68.

PMR Chassis. Holton Hemi.

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Posted By: dragonfish

HEMI MILITIA WIN SS/AH SHOOTOUT - 05/02/10 10:30 PM

ALL HEMI MILITIA FINAL at the SS/AH SHOOTOUT at the OUTLAW NATIONALS, wheatfield raceway, duncannon, pa.

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Posted By: 67HEMI

Re: ATCO - 05/08/10 01:10 PM

Quote:

Picture of Cal and Jon Percy's SS/AH Barracuda. This is from the 2010 MATS. Last I heard, the plan was for Cal to start driving the '64 now that Jon is in the '68.

PMR Chassis. Holton Hemi.




That is a beautiful car!
Posted By: Edge

SS/AH Ride Height - 05/08/10 05:14 PM

Can anyone give a rough idea what kind of ride height the SS/AH cars are running these days. I am in the process of switching over to a 4 link setup and I sure like the way these hemi cars look, hook and leave ! I was just looking for a rough reference from the ground to bottom of rocker at the front and rear as a staring point for checking ride ht.

thanks
Posted By: Chris_Holton

Re: ATCO - 05/09/10 10:31 PM

The engine in percy's car was built two years ago, it is allready dated to todays standards. The next time it makes it back to the shop we will upgrade it as best we can....
Posted By: cudasteve68

Re: HEMI MILITIA WIN SS/AH SHOOTOUT - 05/11/10 03:48 PM

Is that 1/8 or 1/4 track?
I use to race in the winter at Attica Model Car Dragway. We had a SS/AH shootout every month. I was the Record holder in my "SR WarFish" car the track closed. We ran a "bag" or sealed 20 to keep costs down. Record was .574@43.25 (1/8)When we ran the "regular" SS/AH 20 motors track record was .529 (cars were 125 grams)
We had a blast.
I still have (2) ss/ah cuda's, The SR war fish car and one painted like my race car. Plus a about 10-15 unopened model kits if anyone is looking???
Posted By: dragonfish

Re: HEMI MILITIA WIN SS/AH SHOOTOUT - 05/11/10 11:38 PM

It's an outlaw length 31ft, on my track in my basement which is a true 1/8th mile {27 1/2 ft} the warfish car has gone .519, the fishtank .523
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: HEMI MILITIA WIN SS/AH SHOOTOUT - 05/12/10 03:13 AM

Quote:

ALL HEMI MILITIA FINAL at the SS/AH SHOOTOUT at the OUTLAW NATIONALS, wheatfield raceway, duncannon, pa.




Norwalk this weekend? Except Sr. wins??

Back to the future!
Posted By: Spyphish

2010 schedule - 05/12/10 08:15 PM

May 12, 2010




Mopar® HEMI® Challenge Race Series Will Invade Three Tracks in 2010
2010 Mopar® HEMI® Challenge Race Series begins at the
Holley NHRA National Hot Rod Reunion in June



Auburn Hills, Mich. — Mopar®, Chrysler Group LLC’s service, parts and customer-care brand, announced a three-event schedule for the 2010 Mopar HEMI® Challenge Race Series. The popular racing series will make its first-ever appearance at the 2010 Holley NHRA National Hot Rod Reunion (NHRR) at Beech Bend Park in Bowling Green, Ky., June 18–20.

Following the NHRR event, the Mopar HEMI Challenge Race Series will head to the Mac Tools U.S. Nationals in Indianapolis, Ind., Sept. 1–6, and then wrap up at the JEGS Northern SPORTSnationals at National Trail Raceway outside of Columbus, Ohio, Sept. 24–26.

The winners of the Hot Rod Reunion and SPORTSnationals events will haul in $5,000 paydays. The U.S. Nationals victor will take home a $10,000 winner’s purse. Each event is a stand-alone HEMI Challenge event.

An impressive company of Super Stock/A-HEMI (SS/AH) pilots are scheduled to make the trek to Bowling Green. U.S. Nationals winner Charlie Westcott Sr. and 2008 HEMI Challenge series champion Charlie Westcott Jr. will bring their four-speed Plymouth Barracudas. Gary Wolkwitz, Bob Buntin, Jeff Kobylski, Chuck Comella and Don Bales have confirmed their attendance. Bales will bring his award-winning Plymouth Barracuda, the HEMI that took the 2009 U.S. Nationals Best Appearing Car trophy.

Other top drivers who will compete in the series include two-time 2009 HEMI Challenge winner Jim Daniels, Jim Pancake, Bucky Hess, Joe Teuton Jr. and Darrell Marvel. Pancake, Teuton and Marvel are Chrysler dealers.

“The Mopar HEMI Challenge is for the weekend drag racers who are the core of the series,” said Pietro Gorlier, President & CEO, Mopar Service, Parts & Customer Care, Chrysler Group LLC. “These dedicated racers who compete in the Mopar HEMI Challenge buy Mopar parts from Chrysler, Jeep®, Dodge or Ram dealerships and pour money, time and sweat into their Mopar HEMI-powered race cars. They are great examples of the passion for the Mopar brand that exists in the drag-racing community.”


Holley NHRA National Hot Rod Reunion event details
For more information on the National Hot Rod Reunions, visit http://www.museum.nhra.com/. For event coverage of the HEMI Challenge, visit http://www.moparspeed.com.
Posted By: meanfish

Re: 2010 schedule - 05/12/10 11:45 PM

Have any of you guys ever heard of a company in Kokomo Indiana by the name of Hobbs Engineering? I would like any info on them. Many thanks.
Posted By: YbNoRmAL

Re: 2010 schedule - 05/13/10 02:57 AM

Don't know the answer Dave. There use to be Hobb's Speed Shop run by T/F racer Phil Hobbs back in the 70s & 80s, he curently lives in INDY. And there is a guy that works at Chrysler named Greg Hobbs that is a Tool and Die maker, he use to do some work on the side....I don't know if that is him or not. I will do some rsearch and see what I can come up with.
Posted By: meanfish

Re: 2010 schedule - 05/13/10 01:38 PM

Thanks, I have a Hilborn injection system that was sold to them back in 1969 and I was curious as to what yhe history was on back in the day.
Posted By: moprod

HEMI Shootout - 05/14/10 06:26 AM

Roll call for all SS/AH cars going to Bowling Green , NHRA Hot Rod Reunion.
Posted By: pack attack

Re: 2010 schedule - 05/17/10 02:57 PM

warford is a maybe car still for sale
Posted By: cgall

Jerry Lower - 05/17/10 04:13 PM

If you go to the thread with the CCEvents pics #6 is a nice shot of Jerry Lower's outstanding Hemi S/S Barracuda. Jerry put some older Barton and Indy stuff together and has it flying, I saw him go 9.12 at C-Bus.

Hey Frito, why don't you buy Mel's car and I'll drive it for you.
Posted By: Frito

Re: Jerry Lower - 05/17/10 08:26 PM

Mel Warford told me the Super Cuda would have to come off the side. I think I could have won over Randy, But!!! David Hakim drove my Challenger last year with a monster burn out and I was surprised how calm I was, even watched from the bleachers. So, who knows.

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Posted By: David Hakim

Re: Jerry Lower - 05/17/10 11:30 PM

Frito, call us when you're ready to step up the Challenger. Our good friend Dave Weber at Modern Muscle along with Mancini Racing can put more steam in that LC.

Here's my Daytona after our head and cam swap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7XHL0lXDcM
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Maple Grove points meet - 05/23/10 01:18 PM

Any Hemi Challenge cars going besides the RBRE cars?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: HEMI Shootout - 05/23/10 02:15 PM

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Roll call for all SS/AH cars going to Bowling Green , NHRA Hot Rod Reunion.




I have a schedule conflict and will miss this one. Motor out for new design anyway.
Posted By: Greg

Fender covers? - 05/25/10 03:11 PM

I have seen a lot of SS/AH cars that have custom fender and front covers while working on them in the pits. I am assuming they are going to an upholstery shop or seamstress to have them made. What material have others used and is there anyone out there that specializes in making the covers?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Fender covers? - 05/25/10 08:13 PM

Check with Ben at Holt Race Cars. His upolstery guy made mine which snaps to buttons on inner fender. Soft on underside and rugged on the outer which just wipes clean. Really nice and handy. Good luck.

PS One of the cheaper components on the car. Ha!
Posted By: Greg

Re: Fender covers? - 05/26/10 01:17 AM

Spyphish,

Do you have any shots of the cover on or off the car?

Thanks
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Fender covers? - 06/06/10 02:35 AM

Is the SS/AH fad over? This thread appears dead. Just a couple of years ago there were tons of new cars being built, shootouts all over and lots of smack talk from various engine builders. NHRA is having a shootout on a big stage at the NHRR and no one seems to care. Perkins debuted his new car lastweek and no one has mentioned it. Cars are for sale that were just built a few years ago. Has the ultra quick times by a few ruined the class or is something else like the economy? I'm just curious what everyone thinks.
Posted By: LSP

Re: Fender covers? - 06/06/10 01:47 PM

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Has the ultra quick times by a few ruined the class? I'm just curious what everyone thinks.




I think that may have something to do with it.
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Re: Fender covers? - 06/06/10 02:40 PM

Jody, Great question. Everything was great when the cars were running 8.70-9.00 e.t.'s. Just about anyone could qualify and be competitive. Try a new convertor or gear here and there and adjust valves once in a while. Now with CW and RBRE turning 10,000 you might get 10 runs before a rebuild or dropped valve, broken rod etc. and you have Pro Stock style maintenance and costs. Will the car construction market correct itself like the housing market? How can you justify a used SS/AH car less motor and trans, costing more than a used Pro Stock roller? It costs between 75k and 125k+ to put a cage, 4-link and modified k, in one of these cars now. Finish it off with a 75k+ motor, and Bucky paint(tuki's the man) and you are at 250k+, and then go shopping for a toter and stacker! All the players are financially independent to start with but now instead of being in their 40's, most are 50-60 and between round thrashes are left up to guys like CW jr. and maybe Dave Barton. Eveyrone else loads the car up and heads over to Darrel Marvels for the Filets.(thanks Darrel) Without CW jr., Bucky, Jeff at Modern, and Dave Barton on this site it was a long, cold lonely winter and slow spring. No one talked about the new Perkins/Jenkins debut, or the record holding RBRE car hurting the new motor at Maple Grove last week. I'm hoping that CW jr., RBRE, Joe Clark (Bucky), and Jeff at Modern are thrashing and have no time to post here and that there will be 20 cars at the next shootout. I know that unless there is more traffic here on this site about who is and who isn't going to the shootouts I won't be booking any rooms.

please come home
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: Fender covers? - 06/06/10 04:53 PM

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Jody, Great question. Everything was great when the cars were running 8.70-9.00 e.t.'s. Just about anyone could qualify and be competitive. Try a new convertor or gear here and there and adjust valves once in a while. Now with CW and RBRE turning 10,000 you might get 10 runs before a rebuild or dropped valve, broken rod etc. and you have Pro Stock style maintenance and costs. Will the car construction market correct itself like the housing market? How can you justify a used SS/AH car less motor and trans, costing more than a used Pro Stock roller? It costs between 75k and 125k+ to put a cage, 4-link and modified k, in one of these cars now. Finish it off with a 75k+ motor, and Bucky paint(tuki's the man) and you are at 250k+, and then go shopping for a toter and stacker! All the players are financially independent to start with but now instead of being in their 40's, most are 50-60 and between round thrashes are left up to guys like CW jr. and maybe Dave Barton. Eveyrone else loads the car up and heads over to Darrel Marvels for the Filets.(thanks Darrel) Without CW jr., Bucky, Jeff at Modern, and Dave Barton on this site it was a long, cold lonely winter and slow spring. No one talked about the new Perkins/Jenkins debut, or the record holding RBRE car hurting the new motor at Maple Grove last week. I'm hoping that CW jr., RBRE, Joe Clark (Bucky), and Jeff at Modern are thrashing and have no time to post here and that there will be 20 cars at the next shootout. I know that unless there is more traffic here on this site about who is and who isn't going to the shootouts I won't be booking any rooms.

please come home




All good points that have merit to a certain degree but a lot of people lost interest in following the SS/AH races after experiencing the attitudes of the racers and engine builders involved as well as it just becomming a battle of the "bucks".There just didn't seem to be anyone that stood out and became the "hero" to cheer for.Don't get me wrong,I admire the effort that some put out and the innovative developments That CJ and Barton camp were doing.I had met CJ and he was as close to becomming the guy that I admired in the class and know Don Bales as a great person personally and wished him all the success.Many of the others are equally great people,but the attitude displayed by some who thought that they were "in a class above all others" or were demeaning in their responses to fans and racers certainly play a part as to why the"flock of followers and interest in the Hemi races" has deminished.I feel(only my opinion)that if these SS/AH racers and builders would follow in the footsteps of all the great "Hemi Heros" that we all remember(quite well) from years past they would have the following and support of many fans and racers.We all want heros to look up to,where have they all gone?As for me I will always remember the great ones and hold those memories close and try to emmulate all their traits that made them outstanding individuals in those days.I still remember sitting around a camp fire with Dyno Don,Hubert Platt,Malcom Durham and some others listening to their stragity on how they were going to whoop azz on Sox and a few other Mopar racers.Not knowing where my loyality was they talked freely and I carried that info promptly to the Mopar camp.The next day was highlited by the biggest,longest staging show down in history each racer trying to burn the other guy down and multipal burn outs through the rosin,each playing the same game.The staging show was better than the actual race.This may have lead to todays"courtisity staging rules.Back then you nodded your head when the flagmen pointed in your direction.So if you see me sitting in my rocker with a smile on my face,I'am just remembering that day at that little backwoods dragstrip and the "racing heros putting on the show" for the fans.
Posted By: mr_340

Hemi Shootouts - 06/06/10 05:34 PM

I think BG has hit it spot on. I used to make the trek down to Belle Rose but tired of seeing one guy win all the races. Now I just wait for the Teutons and Spyfish to come up to Ennis and chat with some Cajuns here. No mudbug cookouts though. Joe Jr. is winning races with 9.0s and an old bracket motor instead of pouring money into PS engines with Hemi valve covers. I noticed Raybourn got rid of the SS car and now is running a Stocker. Sign of the times and economics.
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/06/10 06:27 PM

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I think BG has hit it spot on. I used to make the trek down to Belle Rose but tired of seeing one guy win all the races. Now I just wait for the Teutons and Spyfish to come up to Ennis and chat with some Cajuns here. No mudbug cookouts though. Joe Jr. is winning races with 9.0s and an old bracket motor instead of pouring money into PS engines with Hemi valve covers. I noticed Raybourn got rid of the SS car and now is running a Stocker. Sign of the times and economics.




I don't mean any disrespect to anyone,but when you can get a personal relationship or build respect for a person or team you can champion their efforts and support them.I hate NASCAR but was so influnced by Somkey Yunick when I was younger that When I found out they were honoring him at the "last race of the century"(millinium) I made arrangements to fly to Alanta and get full axcess passes to just get to see him,shake his hand and tell him how much I respected him.The pictures of me shaking his hand is like a treasure to me and hangs on the shop wall.I'am so honored by having spent the time with Smokey and how receptive he was to me,that I will always cherish that moment with him.He died not longer after that.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/06/10 06:49 PM

I have travled all over this country to see these HEMI cars.
From my perspective things have changed rather quickly.

Around 10 years ago i started really getting interested in the SS/AH class.
My father, brother and I would drive all night long to Indy to see the race.
We would watch the shootout and then drive back home.
It was the best thing ever! I waited all year for that 1 day.
Although i hated driving for 2 days, it was worth it just for those couple of hours.
I would talk to all of the drivers, and my favorite was Bucky!
About 4 years ago i met Lil Joe Teuton. This changed everything!
In my mind this is what Bob George is talking about.
Him and I talked for hours, and he ended up winning class at that race.
He let me be in the winner circle with him when they took pics.
Since then i have flown all over the country to be there when he races.
He and I are like flamily now, i have stayed in his house for a week at a time.
He has made the races fun for me again!
And at any race he shows up at, i feel he can win it.

Now it seems like this class only wants to be like * look at me, look at me *
They only show up to race where a shootout is.
I dont like that.
Joe is trying to win a national championship in an SS/AH car.

For the first time in many years, i dont think my family and I are going to Indy for the shootout.
It is not what it used to be.

Thanks Lil Joe and everyone else who made this class wonderful!

I hope 1 day it gets back to where its fun again.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/07/10 01:02 AM

I have had a blast the first year and all the racers have been super nice. Still fun.. I know Rains, myself and Comella will not make it. Jim Pancake is running, the Camos will be there. I see where Wolk and Hard were probably rained out in Il. I bet they go to BG. Lets hope they get a good turnout. I would go if I could. SLH
Posted By: Frito

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/07/10 05:02 AM

BG,
Your post is once again right on. But you did leave out a couple of the most friendly and accesable guys in this class, Stephen Hebert and Mel Warford. They both seem to be "happy to be there".
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/07/10 10:28 AM

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BG,
Your post is once again right on. But you did leave out a couple of the most friendly and accesable guys in this class, Stephen Hebert and Mel Warford. They both seem to be "happy to be there".




Frito,I wasn't demeaning,disrespecting or leaving anyone out,I mentioned only a few of the "new hemi racers that I was familiar with".To mention all the great good ones would take too much space.Landy,Sox,Jake,Faubal,Flynn,Stiles,Strickler,Montgumery, and on and on,great racers and great people and friendly and approachable.
Posted By: Frito

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/07/10 11:03 AM

Without question, all of the BG racers I have met live up to those standards.
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/07/10 06:46 PM

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Without question, all of the BG racers I have met live up to those standards.




Thanks Frito,from all the BGR racers.Respect is earned,not demanded and for those who show respect will recieve it also.After all the character of a person is measured by how he is precieved and respected and that will last in peoples minds long after the person is gone from this world.
Posted By: Bill Kraft

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/08/10 12:17 AM

Being one of the new SS/AH guys this past year my approach to this class was to run a half second under the index. I might have the $ but I didn't have the time at this point in my career to race as often as it takes to be near the top. It was never my plan to be the man. I was just going to be happy to run a bit behind the best.

Figured if I was going to make this kind of investment I'd start out with the best body from CA, then had FJ Smith build the chassis/cage. Have a $10K paint job, an old crossram MacCallum/Pancake/to Barton's for freshening/Bales/Crosswhite $20K motor that I had to add an oil pump and new set of carbs from CW, who I respect as a no BS, just get it done type of guy. Wired, upholstered, plumbed the car myself. Bought an old ProTrans, added some basic electronics, No RacePak stuff and went racing.

My 1st Hemi Shootout was the CC event at Norwalk. Pulled my F350 and smaller tag trailer into the pits next to Gary W. and David B. Both nice guys who came over and introduced themselves. Serious about their stuff. Spoke to Jim about his old motor...he said it was a good piece but old tech. Both Jim and the Holts were great. Imagine my surprise when I beat Gary and Pancake beat David. Picture this, here I am 9pm Saturday night racing in the Hemi finals at Norwalk, against the former national record holding car and driver. The stuff dreams are made of. Great payday even for a runner-up.

2nd Hemi Shootout was at the Dutch. More cars this time. Pitted next to my friends the Howes Family, and on the other side the Hards, both Brian and Tyler stopped over to take a look at the car and introduce themselves. Their rig provided lots of shade for me, when the sun did shine. I did a fine job securing the final qualifing spot and raced on elimination day. The old motor wasn't the fastest but it held together. Everyone that stopped by had only the best things to say, nothing negative unless it had to do with rain. On Saturday I was told to report to tech, when I got there they wanted me to bring the car down so they could take pictures handing me the "Best Engineered Car" award. Another proud moment for me.

Yes it is worth it. Being at the right place at the right time has alot to do with it. I have had a chance to meet and talk with some great racers the Howes, Marvel, Comella, Barton, Pancake, Wolkwitzes, Hebert, Bales, Joe Jr., Jeff, and CW.
We'll be out soon with radials, a new piston/cam/intake combo and hope to run a half under the new index. No illusions here. I'm sure there a few more new cars on the way, not all of can start with the latest Barton or CW steam, but give us a chance. That's my 2 cents, been there, done it, and will continue to do it.
Posted By: badwej

Re: Hemi Shootouts - 06/08/10 04:54 AM

Mr.Kraft are you coming to Grand Bend in july for the hemi shootout
Posted By: 65hardtop

Re: Fender covers? - 06/08/10 03:04 PM

Hmmm I bet you could take a class on welding at a comunity college buy a welder some pipe and have your roller befor you could get one you ordered. How much would that be? You don't need to paint anymore since you can buy wraps. If they arnt cnc heads or intake they're pretty cheap compaired to the new stuff and it's not that far off.. It dont take 300,000 to build these cars!!! It takes that much to have one built for you. Take some time to learn how to weld yourself!! It will save you a house!!! These cars would be less the 30,000 if you did it yourself.
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Fender covers? - 06/08/10 04:30 PM

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Hmmm I bet you could take a class on welding at a comunity college buy a welder some pipe and have your roller befor you could get one you ordered. How much would that be? You don't need to paint anymore since you can buy wraps. If they arnt cnc heads or intake they're pretty cheap compaired to the new stuff and it's not that far off.. It dont take 300,000 to build these cars!!! It takes that much to have one built for you. Take some time to learn how to weld yourself!! It will save you a house!!! These cars would be less the 30,000 if you did it yourself.



Even doing one by yourself you could not even buy the parts for that money. And if you could your performance level would be so far off you might as well stayed home. I have somewhat added that up at one time and your not even close. Sorry.
Posted By: Dyno1

Goals - 06/09/10 02:06 AM

I raced in all three of the .90 classes, built a stocker that I has success in, but I always wanted a Hemi and to run in superstock. I bought a 68 Barracuda out of Ca. and had it shipped to Minnesota. I did alot of the grunt work myself but had many people offer good advice and direction. Dave Stevens Race Cars did the chassis work and Brian at Paintworks did the paint, (Best appearing at last year Joliet Natl's) John Holt helped with some steering stuff, Mike at MPR did the rearend, offset master cylinder, (really cool), all the Mark Williams brakes and axles. Barton helped with rockers, radiator and intake after the one I had was stolen. Charlie for his help and oil pump. Joel's On Joy for the ProTrans. Bruce and Kenny at Total Engine Service for a very reliable Hemi, Tom Bachman at Goodyear and many others. My goal was to win rounds and run in the 9.20 range, which at the time was .50 under the index. Since the index change and the extra .15 we got last fall, the index is now 9.30. So with bad air, like in Topeka this year, it has become more of a challenge. I went to Indy last year and was the slowest Hemi there, but it was one of the most enjoyable races I have been to. All the other Hemi racers were great and the event will be something I will always remember. Not everyone has the $$$ it takes to win a shootout, but I can appreciate the effort and desire it takes. It is easy to sit on the computer or sidelines and criticize racers for what they consider a poor performance, all I can say is try it and see how you can do. "Dyno" Dan Zrust, Gold Coast Hemi.
Posted By: pack attack

Re: Goals - 06/09/10 11:26 AM

i agree with Dyno most people just want to get to the show. But when the bug hits you there no stopping from there. I do want to add , look at all the cars that have won awards in this class. So if we can't go fast, we can look good and be proud of our car. Thanks to all of the new cars out there. supercuda
Posted By: 65hardtop

Re: Fender covers? - 06/09/10 12:53 PM

The paint, body work, interior, cage, suspension,rearend, will all be done in house. The intake and headers will all be done inhouse. So will the heads and the trans.We can put our own motors together. It isn't going to be more then 30,000. It will run 8.75 to 8.90 most peoples version of doing it themselfs isn't our way... The fastest cars break the most. Anyone can still win..
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Hmmm I bet you could take a class on welding at a comunity college buy a welder some pipe and have your roller befor you could get one you ordered. How much would that be? You don't need to paint anymore since you can buy wraps. If they arnt cnc heads or intake they're pretty cheap compaired to the new stuff and it's not that far off.. It dont take 300,000 to build these cars!!! It takes that much to have one built for you. Take some time to learn how to weld yourself!! It will save you a house!!! These cars would be less the 30,000 if you did it yourself.



Even doing one by yourself you could not even buy the parts for that money. And if you could your performance level would be so far off you might as well stayed home. I have somewhat added that up at one time and your not even close. Sorry.


Posted By: Spyphish

Saftey first! - 06/09/10 01:57 PM

Welcome and very impressive ET vs budget. My project came about due to saftey reasons. I was be-bopin around down here bracket racing Jim Pancake's old Death Wish Cuda with a 1000 HP Indy 572, 8.80's 155 MPH on leaf springs. Car had not been updated in 20 years. It got back to Jane that it got a little loose one night so it got parked. "If you have to race, get the latest in saftey." Briar Rabbit!!!! As I see saftey features on the other cars, I upgrade. Holt will not do any car without a fire system. Master cutoff inside driver compartment (saw on Supercuda), pinned freeze plugs (Brooks and Bob Read). All that and ironically Impact belts are now coming out.

Good luck and be safe.
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: Fender covers? - 06/09/10 05:11 PM

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The paint, body work, interior, cage, suspension,rearend, will all be done in house. The intake and headers will all be done inhouse. So will the heads and the trans.We can put our own motors together. It isn't going to be more then 30,000. It will run 8.75 to 8.90 most peoples version of doing it themselfs isn't our way... The fastest cars break the most. Anyone can still win..
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Gosh, I don't have a horse in this race but I hope you will share with us your progress. When are you starting on this?
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Fender covers? - 06/09/10 10:13 PM

30,000.00??????????
i dont think you can just buy the parts needed to build a car.
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 05:20 AM

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The paint, body work, interior, cage, suspension,rearend, will all be done in house. The intake and headers will all be done inhouse. So will the heads and the trans.We can put our own motors together. It isn't going to be more then 30,000. It will run 8.75 to 8.90 most peoples version of doing it themselfs isn't our way... The fastest cars break the most. Anyone can still win..
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Hmmm I bet you could take a class on welding at a comunity college buy a welder some pipe and have your roller befor you could get one you ordered. How much would that be? You don't need to paint anymore since you can buy wraps. If they arnt cnc heads or intake they're pretty cheap compaired to the new stuff and it's not that far off.. It dont take 300,000 to build these cars!!! It takes that much to have one built for you. Take some time to learn how to weld yourself!! It will save you a house!!! These cars would be less the 30,000 if you did it yourself.



Even doing one by yourself you could not even buy the parts for that money. And if you could your performance level would be so far off you might as well stayed home. I have somewhat added that up at one time and your not even close. Sorry.







Good luck.
Posted By: 65hardtop

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 11:39 AM

Haha You guys have no faith!! I'm not saying I'm going to build the super cuda or the silver bulit. Just a race car. It will have used parts on it.
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 12:24 PM

Sounds to me like a recipe for about a 11.0 sec hand grenade.
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 12:26 PM

Dang I told myself not to get hung up on that and respond ,but I could not help myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: pack attack

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 02:20 PM

I hear supercuda is still for sale cheaper everyday rolling or complete
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 03:02 PM

if so inclined im sure CW could build a car with new parts for less than 70k if he did all the work himself.........all the rest is labor and knowledge
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 03:20 PM

CW could do it for less than 50 I will bet on that. I have less than 70 in my car including cost of car, parts and labor! Chuck
Posted By: pack attack

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 03:29 PM

I'll take that bet itwould be over 60 for sure with good car and parts lamb,computer,ect, rolling chassis
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 03:40 PM

Now if we can only get Charlie to go along with the deal. He has a car i think he paid 300 for it and there is not one thing that he will farm out. Chuck
Posted By: pack attack

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 03:42 PM

before I put my foot in my mouth anymore, are we talking turnkey or rolling,running 8.70-8.90 was what I thought from the first post
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 03:58 PM

my number was turn key new parts and as fast as what he's got
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 04:10 PM

First off it ain't ever going to happen with Charlie. But with that being said it can be done if he wanted to. Down the track at least 8.50 with new parts. I could figure it but that is a lot of work.
Posted By: Sue

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 04:18 PM

chuck youve had your car for 40 years it was cheap by todays prices.And Charlie couldnt build a car for 50k jennings bill is more than that
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Fender covers? - 06/10/10 04:34 PM

We are talking about a what if car with Charlie doing all the work. No Jennings in the picture. Just parts no labor at all. Chuck
Posted By: Dyno1

Cost $$$ - 06/10/10 05:17 PM

It would be about impossible to build for under $75K, even using used parts, I know. Dyno - Gold Coast hemi
Posted By: Defbob

Re: Cost $$$ - 06/11/10 01:06 AM

Man, I'm going to have almost that much in my Hemi Challenger street car when its done. Maybe I should have built a race car instead
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Cost $$$ - 06/11/10 03:09 AM

the only thing on cws car that is cheap is the paint and body work.
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Cost $$$ - 06/11/10 01:51 PM

nothing wrong with cw's paint
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Cost $$$ - 06/11/10 03:48 PM

If you really look at it considering what they started with and the time it took do (6 weeks) and the cost. His body man did a hell of a job
Posted By: badwej

Re: Cost $$$ - 06/11/10 05:54 PM

CW don't need shine he has hp's
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Re: Fender covers? - 06/11/10 08:33 PM

Sue is right. Can't be done if you want to go a minimum of high eights. Island Hemi bought so long ago it was with Confederate money. Just kidding Chuck, your LO23 is BAD! CW could do the work himself but no eights with a budget of even $50k. Lets ask John Holt, Ken Keir, and Mike Roth what they could build a high eight second SS/AH legal car for. They can eat the labor. No attempts at Best Appearing trophy.

How much for pipe, plumbing, wiring, drivetrain, wheels and tires, brakes, basic interior, decent Barracuda/Dart body, glass fenders and hood, and minimun bodywork to get it in primer? It needs to get through tech, not park by Bucky or Bales.
You can find an old round port RBRE with a crossram used for about $25k that will go eights and you are already halfway through your budget.
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Fender covers? - 06/11/10 09:35 PM

Bernie: Thanks for the compliment. I can see i can't win this argument. I think this biggest problem is most guys have to hire every thing out. Most Chassis are 65 to 125 depending on how much u want them to do. Paint is 10-20 depending. Interior another 5. A good engine 65 and up now I have a new Cuda sitting in my basement now 25.5 cage, carbon fiber front, lamb brakes the hole smash It is still primer but other than that i could run it. Less than 50 in it less motor Chuck Chuck
Posted By: Spyphish

Houston in the heat - 06/12/10 06:38 AM

Checking in on you guys from WAY up North. Lil Joe in 60's in Houston heat at D4 points race, in June. No way 50k does that. Chuck, I am ALL IN with the above bet using all my BP stock.>>>>Ha!

I do wish we could let folks know who is going to Bowling Green. Again, Rains, Comella and myself are out. Pancake running so he may get it with a bye. Camo's??? Bullet??? Mr. Hess??? Southland??? MCH??? etc etc Signed: Just a cheerleader on this one.
Posted By: 8secDart

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/13/10 10:51 PM

Guys it can be done for around $60.If you do all the work your self.That is for a car that will run 8.80 to 90s.If your farming the work out then the skys the limit.It's a big jump for 80s to 50s.The cage and motor are what hit you.My old junk ran 9.0s but it was really just a old KOS car.It was 3,500lbs.Had a small tire 10.5 on it too.Lenny

Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 12:52 AM

You are correct. A CAR can be built for that kind of money,but that is not a legal ss/ah car. Big difference.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Southland HEMI's win again!!! - 06/14/10 02:22 AM

Lil Joe just called me and told me that Tim Hebert won the race at Texas!!!!
Lil Joe went out 2nd round, but Tim came through!!

That is 2 weeks in a row that the team has won races.
Lil Joe won 2 last week, and now Tim won this week!

Here is the increments.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed

4483 John Clegg ------------------------------ 46 Tim Hebert
E5 0.060 8.485 161.38 ===================****WINNER**** 0.040 9.221 143.78
SS/AM Dial: 8.43 (+/-): 0.055 -------------------SS/AH Dial: 9.21 (+/-): 0.011
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 02:44 AM

Exactly why would it cost more to build a class legal car? I'll stand by what I said, a guy like cw could build a legal car as fas as what he's got for less than 70 if he did all the work himself,of course if he did that I'm sure he wouldn't have the time to devote to what he does best
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 03:59 AM

Quote:

Exactly why would it cost more to build a class legal car? I'll stand by what I said, a guy like cw could build a legal car as fas as what he's got for less than 70 if he did all the work himself,of course if he did that I'm sure he wouldn't have the time to devote to what he does best




Yea, probably. But the orignal debate gentlemen was if it can be done for 30K...
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 12:52 PM

A SS/AH car from scratch, that can run in the 8s, for 30K???


IMPOSSIBLE!!! I don't care if you do it yourself out of a one car home garage.
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 01:56 PM

Anyone ever see the movIe the worlds fastest Indian? Lol
Posted By: HemiDart68

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 02:44 PM

Quote:

Exactly why would it cost more to build a class legal car? I'll stand by what I said, a guy like cw could build a legal car as fas as what he's got for less than 70 if he did all the work himself,of course if he did that I'm sure he wouldn't have the time to devote to what he does best




There are very very few people that could do "everything" themselves and have any type of halfway decent car in the end. You can always tell a car when someone claims to everything in house. Usually half the car is marginal, and other aspects of it are just poor quality.
Posted By: B G Racing

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 03:37 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Exactly why would it cost more to build a class legal car? I'll stand by what I said, a guy like cw could build a legal car as fas as what he's got for less than 70 if he did all the work himself,of course if he did that I'm sure he wouldn't have the time to devote to what he does best




There are very very few people that could do "everything" themselves and have any type of halfway decent car in the end. You can always tell a car when someone claims to everything in house. Usually half the car is marginal, and other aspects of it are just poor quality.




But that few can if they had the desire and the where with all to do it.The only question I have is who wants to dedicate all their time and money to a "class car" other than for personal selfsatisfaction.To build a class car or SS/AH car by yourself and on a budget would be similar to a masochist whom derives pleasure from injury.I would stay clear of such a project unless I had the funds to seek out the best of each in their field to build each componant that would compliment the total assembly and find the best driver to obtain a successfull goal.My opinion of class racing is a dog chasing it's tail.If it catches it,so what? And if it's a short tail it may even get a bad taste in it's mouth. I have watched over the years many noted classes racers and find the only reward out side of their circle is the notation in the back of National Dragster or Drag News:Class winner so and so,one of one,one of 2,how much more obscure can your hard work and vested value be deminished.
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/14/10 03:42 PM

but what those halfway decent poor quality marginal cars usually lack the most is the steam under the hood wouldnt ya say?
Posted By: 354valiant

NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/14/10 07:34 PM

NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY HEMI Shootout is there anyone going? I saw on the HEMIShootout.net that there was going to a Mopar HEMI Shootout @ the June 18-20 Event.
Posted By: Silver Bullet

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/15/10 12:38 AM

Hello Everyone...I hope this messages finds each of you doing well...and staying dry from all the rain.

Anyway, the purpose of this post is to let those SS/AH teams heading to Bowling Green know that VP will not be at the NHRA Hot Rod Reunion.

With that in mind, I am heading to VP's facility west of INDY tomorrow (Tuesday)to get myself some C-25. If any SS/AH's teams need me to pick up a few gallons of C-25 for you let me know and I will bring the C-25 to Bowling Green with me on Thursday.

Best Regards,

Don Bales
812.216.7498
hemicud@yahoo.com
Posted By: 8secDart

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/15/10 03:16 AM

Quote:

You are correct. A CAR can be built for that kind of money,but that is not a legal ss/ah car. Big difference.





The only thing not legal on the car is the intake and carbs.Chit I had 5 different legal intakes at one time.I built it to be legal car when they were running 8.70s,Year later they are in the 50s.I said to hell with it and put the 4500s on it.
Posted By: fascat

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/15/10 11:52 AM

DON,T NEED FUEL BUT WILL BE NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN . SAW YOU AT LAS VEGAS RACE 2 YRS AGO.I WAS WITH A GUY NAMED PANCAKE. I AM FROM SOUTH LA. & PLANNING ON GOING TO BOWLING GREEN . HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE
Posted By: dragonfish

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/16/10 11:03 AM

anyone have any front/rear pics of JOE TEUTONS orange car??It's slotcar buildin time again ! thanx
Posted By: mr_340

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/16/10 02:42 PM

I'm not sure if I have one of the back. I'll look in my photo collection and see. Here's a side shot from last year.

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Posted By: mr_340

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/16/10 02:46 PM

Kind of old, but here is a back shot.

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Posted By: Bill Kraft

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/17/10 12:52 AM

Don,

We're not able to make this race. Motor not back from engine builder yet. Should be done soon. Nice heads-up on the fuel issue. Tech doesn't like it if you mix Sunoco with VP. Quick story, we normally only run VP, but had attended a IHRA track which they only had Sunoco. I had had drained and flushed Sunoco in the cell, before adding fresh VP. Found out later that the small amount absorbed by the foam was enough to contaminate the new VP. At the Dutch, during one of the morning qualifiers, I couldn't pass fuel check. They suggested getting the foam out of cell and flush at least 3-4 gallons thru entire system. Did that and fuel checked OK on next run. The good news is we'll have the fastest golf cart for next several races.

Hope to make a few divisionals before Indy. See you then.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/17/10 08:19 AM

Thanks Don. will miss this one. Just finished mushing Ancorage Chrysler Dodge dog team getting ready for Iditarod?? race in March. Thinking my Labs can pull the Cuda (less motor)?? Good luck, my intel indicates over a dozen cars at BG. Have fun!!
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/17/10 01:18 PM

Missouri Mule is it's way. Nice to see it move under it's own power again. We will be on the road with Pancake soon.....

Gonna miss you, Stephen!!!
Posted By: Defbob

Re: C-25 at NHRA Hot Rod Reunion Bowling Green, KY...? - 06/17/10 11:50 PM

Quote:

Don,

We're not able to make this race. Motor not back from engine builder yet. Should be done soon. Nice heads-up on the fuel issue. Tech doesn't like it if you mix Sunoco with VP. Quick story, we normally only run VP, but had attended a IHRA track which they only had Sunoco. I had had drained and flushed Sunoco in the cell, before adding fresh VP. Found out later that the small amount absorbed by the foam was enough to contaminate the new VP. At the Dutch, during one of the morning qualifiers, I couldn't pass fuel check. They suggested getting the foam out of cell and flush at least 3-4 gallons thru entire system. Did that and fuel checked OK on next run. The good news is we'll have the fastest golf cart for next several races.

Hope to make a few divisionals before Indy. See you then.




Do they test for octane or that it is gasoline? I wonder why the brand difference would change test results
Posted By: Spyphish

WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/18/10 02:03 AM

Quote:

Missouri Mule is it's way. Nice to see it move under it's own power again. We will be on the road with Pancake soon.....

Gonna miss you, Stephen!!!




Ben, keep us posted on who is there and how they run. Also, tell Jim he can use all my (his) stuff in my (his) trailer. Ha! Wish I was there. SLH
Posted By: LSP

Re: Houston in the heat - 06/18/10 03:05 AM




But that few can if they had the desire and the where with all to do it.The only question I have is who wants to dedicate all their time and money to a "class car" other than for personal self satisfaction.To build a class car or SS/AH car by yourself and on a budget would be similar to a masochist whom derives pleasure from injury.I would stay clear of such a project unless I had the funds to seek out the best of each in their field to build each componant that would compliment the total assembly and find the best driver to obtain a successfull goal.My opinion of class racing is a dog chasing it's tail.If it catches it,so what? And if it's a short tail it may even get a bad taste in it's mouth. I have watched over the years many noted classes racers and find the only reward out side of their circle is the notation in the back of National Dragster or Drag News:Class winner so and so,one of one,one of 2,how much more obscure can your hard work and vested value be deminished.




How big is the motor in your 65, and what does it run?
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/18/10 03:19 PM

Well......it is HOT. Should be running Q1 in the next hour

Pancake
G. Wolkwitz
D. Barton (driving Hard's Cuda)
CW Sr.
CW Jr.
Bales (silver bullet)
R. Campbell
Hustlin' Hemi (his name escapes me.....)
Larry Perkins

Should be interesting with the heat.....but the track looks really good

I will do my best to keep updates coming
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/18/10 04:49 PM


Quote:

Well......it is HOT. Should be running Q1 in the next hour

Pancake
G. Wolkwitz
D. Barton (driving Hard's Cuda)
CW Sr.
CW Jr.
Bales (silver bullet)
R. Campbell
Hustlin' Hemi (his name escapes me.....)
Larry Perkins

Should be interesting with the heat.....but the track looks really good

I will do my best to keep updates coming



HUSTLIN HEMI Bob Button, Dipilo power.
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/18/10 07:51 PM

Thanks Gary!!

After Q1.....this isnt exact....but close enough

CWJ 8.61
Perkins .71
Barton (Hard) .71
Wolkwitz .75
Bales 9.0?
Campbell 9.81
Buntin ?
CWS 12.? spun
Pancake 14.? spun

Waiting for the fuel cars to finish.....
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/18/10 10:15 PM

Quote:

Thanks Gary!!

After Q1.....this isnt exact....but close enough

CWJ 8.61
Perkins .71
Barton (Hard) .71
Wolkwitz .75
Bales 9.0?
Campbell 9.81
Buntin ?
CWS 12.? spun
Pancake 14.? spun

Waiting for the fuel cars to finish.....




What kind of mph are they running?
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/19/10 02:10 AM

The second qualifier was interesting. it somehow was hotter than the first round, how it could get hotter we have no idea!!
Everybody spun except for Bales, with a 9.05 or so.

I think we were the only improvement with a stunning 9.78.

I think the ladder would be
CWJ
Perkins
David
Wolkwitz
Bales
Pancake
Campbell
CWS (I think he went a 9.90...)
Buntin

DOn't quote me on this, we are supposed to have a final qualifier in the am, then start elims around 1:30.

I'm not exactly sure about the sppeds, Julie, but I think CWJ went 155 and change, Perkins was 154, David was 153, and Wolkwitz was 154

Campbell is the unfortunate casualty, but they will get it fixed, and look out for that now 4 speed car once they get the bullet fixed! 4 years out from racing a 4 speed car and he had a .050 light first round!!!!:)

Good night all, and stay cool!
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/19/10 05:21 PM

Cw 8.51 157
gw 8.55
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/19/10 06:28 PM

We just called back......this morning the track was really good!

CWJ 8.51
Wolkwitz 8.55
Barton 8.64
CWS 8.67
Perkins 8.71
Pancake 8.72
Bales 9.04
Campbell
Buntin
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/19/10 10:22 PM

1st Round

Barton over Bales
Wolkwitz over Pancake
Perkins over Buntin
CWS over Campbell (broke)
CWJ Bye

2nd round

Barton 8.65 over Perkins shut off
CWJ was supposed to run CWS but something happened to CWS. CWJ ran a 8.59 on the bye
Wolkwitz had the comp bye and ran a 8.64

Barton has a bye into the final, and Wolkwitz and CWJ run each other in the other semi. We had to roll out......so I hope someone can keep us posted!!!!!

IT WAS HOT
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/19/10 10:47 PM

3rd round
Wescott(8.56@156.81)over Wolkwitz(8.69@152) and Barton had a bye into the final against CW.

Results are on hemishootout.net
Thanks.
Posted By: Hemiroid

Re: WHO DAT be Dar' - 06/20/10 02:47 AM



Westcott 8.512 at 157.63 mph to Barton's 8.633 at 153.51.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Congratulations Charlie, Jr. - 06/21/10 02:57 PM

Nice job in the heat Charlie. May need to use the chute if we get a shot at that "Dutch air". Thanks to the eight others that braved the heat and raced. Wish I could have been there.

PS Way to go David making the finals in Tyler's car. Looked like it ran consistent.
Posted By: barabaracuda

Re: Congratulations Charlie, Jr. - 06/21/10 06:48 PM

any pictures ??
Posted By: Joe Grippo

Re: Congratulations Charlie, Jr. - 06/22/10 12:27 PM

Quote:

any pictures ??




BANGshift

Posted By: mr_340

Re: Congratulations Charlie, Jr. - 06/22/10 03:20 PM

There are some videos on Classracer.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=26578
Posted By: wildcargo

Re: Congratulations Charlie, Jr. - 06/23/10 10:54 AM

Quote:

May need to use the chute if we get a shot at that "Dutch air".




Are thay haveing a Hemi shootout at the Dutch this year
Posted By: barabaracuda

Re: Congratulations Charlie, Jr. - 06/24/10 12:23 AM

cool pics and videos ! thanks .
Posted By: moprod

Bowling Green - 06/24/10 09:48 PM

Good friend had his new car out for first time at Bowling Green. had some issues with high speed wobble on top end.

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Posted By: ASA1711

Re: Bowling Green - 07/03/10 03:33 PM

Larry Perkins; 8.523 @ Lebanon Valley. He's a player with power by the Grump.
Posted By: ASA1711

Re: Bowling Green - 07/04/10 09:06 PM

And............apparently can drive the beast too as went five rounds.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Paul Wilson - 07/06/10 06:52 PM

Man, just got shocking news that Paul Wilson has passed away. Genuinerocker was his post. He was an instant good friend when we met and will be missed by all. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

Maybe we could do a little benefit at Indy.
Stephen
Posted By: warfish

Re: Paul Wilson - 07/06/10 07:09 PM

just logged in to report the same thing. He was up here last friday with his girlfriend to do an article. They were in Mi for a Scorpions concert. We had a good time talking. Glad I got to see him again. He has been fighting cancer for 4 or 5 years, and he was visibly weak from the chemo.
He was a generally upbeat guy, and he even mentioned that he could do nothing but think positively.

cw

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Paul Wilson - 07/07/10 02:17 AM

Paul called me Saturday as he was returning home from the concert. Never one to complain when I ask how he was he replied, "Just fine DUDE". I will cherish the good times. He lived life to the fullest, I hope I can. RIP.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Paul Wilson - 07/14/10 10:03 PM

I need the year he was born and I need ideas designing a decal for the A cars for this years remaining shootouts. How about his long hair silhouette with his life years, GR (Moparts sig) or PW. 2010 Hemi Shootout? 4x4" or 6x6" etc.

PS I was to cut that long hair at Indy. We talked about 10 times during the Superbowl and of course since. Looks like I get to cut Bales hair????? Stephen
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Paul Wilson - 07/15/10 12:43 AM

1961 got it
Posted By: 3604speed

Re: Paul Wilson - 07/20/10 01:02 AM

Wow! I still can't get over having Paul not with us. I will treasure having him shoot my car and being at events together. Paul has a good soul. His good heart and his artistry will be his legacy. I will miss him. We are minus one more good person on this earth.

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Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Paul Wilson - 07/26/10 05:31 PM

I need a face photo of Paul for a decal we are making. Thanks

Got it. Thanks Frito
Posted By: Dyno1

Indy - 07/31/10 01:52 AM

20 cars entered so far. Will be a great show!
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Indy - 07/31/10 04:26 AM

You coming?
Posted By: mr_340

SS Hemi Rods - 07/31/10 04:22 PM

I was looking at the Carrillo website last night and noticed they have SS Hemi rods with the Honda rod journal size and it said they are LEGAL. Then I looked at the NHRA website for the legal rods and they listed several Carrillo rods with the BE to be specified. Itty-bitty rod journal for big heavy Hemi rods (still 833g) and heavy pistons. Whose making the cranks that survive the 9500 RPM with tiny rod journals? Sorry if I've been sleeping through the rule changes.
Posted By: Dyno1

Re: Indy - 08/02/10 01:03 AM

I will be there, slow as usual, but having fun. Dyno
Posted By: warfish

in car video - 08/03/10 03:58 AM

We took my dads car to martin saturday, this is in car video of me driving. Been wanting to do this for a while, just now getting around to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXHEr2NNM70

heres my dad running after me, had to lift when the rear end broke loose in 4th gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ykO9vLTY0
Posted By: crc

Re: in car video - 08/03/10 07:21 AM

Hey Charlie-
Glad your back. Thanks for posting the videos... cool!
Posted By: 340Cuda

Re: in car video - 08/04/10 02:10 AM

Quote:

Hey Charlie-
Glad your back. Thanks for posting the videos... cool!




Posted By: Dyno1

Indy - 08/04/10 07:33 PM

29 cars entered. 5 round race. Dyno
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: in car video - 08/10/10 12:37 AM

Quote:

We took my dads car to martin saturday, this is in car video of me driving. Been wanting to do this for a while, just now getting around to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXHEr2NNM70

heres my dad running after me, had to lift when the rear end broke loose in 4th gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ykO9vLTY0




CWJ, we ran the audio through the same "Jonesie looking for Red October" program like we did Daniels. Yours was a little harder as the camera is over the passenger side header. Still got it but the camera centered is better.

Here are our findings:

We examined the audio of the YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXHEr2NNM70 which depicts the "warfish" 4-speed hemi shifting through gears 1 to 4, starting around 1 minute into the video and lasting approximately 10 seconds. (See attached frequency domain plot)

Here are the estimates of the RPM's

Gear LowRpm HighRpm
=============================
1 6100 9335
2 6720 9600
3 6935 9530
4 6600 9750

WOW!

Notes:
1. Assumption: V-8, 4-cycle engine
2. Estimated error: +/- 75 RPM
3. 1st harmonic was highly damped, only vestigially visible
4. 5th harmonic had best SNR and was used for the analysis
5. FFT settings: 4096Hz sampling rate, Gaussian filter to reduce ripple

In general this audio sample was a little harder to analyze, but I was finally able to coax the signals out for measurement.

PS Saftey 1st, gloves and neck brace next time. This is all in fun and see you at Indy. Stephen

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Posted By: StewartP

Re: in car video - 08/10/10 02:04 AM

Spyfish: are you sure that CW wants that information out there? :-)
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: in car video - 08/10/10 02:30 AM

Probably not BUT never ever put anything on the web you do not want public. The Phishermen will get it!
Posted By: StewartP

Re: in car video - 08/10/10 03:22 AM

Posted By: moprod

Re: in car video - 08/11/10 01:00 AM

Charlie, I did not realize that stick cars went thru the gears on a burnout. What is the gauge on the pillar?
Great videos , thanks.
Posted By: SSHemi364

Re: in car video - 08/11/10 01:45 AM

It a brake pressure gauge...
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: in car video - 08/17/10 01:54 PM

I sure missed the SS/AH cars at the Martin Chrysler Classic
this year. I know you guys will be at the US Nationals but,
any other HEMI Shootouts on the schedule?
Posted By: SSHemi364

Re: - 08/17/10 03:16 PM

Another hemi shootout in Sept 24-26, JEGS Northern SPORTSnationals at National Trail Raceway, Columbus, OH
Posted By: Spyphish

Re:HEADLINES, Read all about it!!!!! CHARLIE DANIELS - 08/21/10 01:51 PM

My intel has a breaking (pun) story. The "Charlie Daniels" Band is going to appear at the US Nats with the six fastest AH cars in the Nation. Band members include Charlie Wescott Jr. (lead singer), Charlie Wescott Sr. (drummer), Jim Daniels (competing lead singer?), Tyler Hard (bass), Gary Wolkolwitz (rythm), and David Barton (fiddle). Their roadie, John Rains, could be fast as well if he has Charlie's latest song under the hood.

Me, I am all alone with no band at all. I just wish my friend Paul Wilson was here as he would LOVE this post. And yes Island Hemi, in NOLA for preseason game on "coolaid"...
Posted By: sshemifan

Re:HEADLINES, Read all about it!!!!! CHARLIE DANIELS - 08/22/10 11:33 AM

I can see it now--the new hit song "The Devil Went Down To Indy", it'll be Grammy worthy!!!

Regards, John
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re:HEADLINES, Read all about it!!!!! CHARLIE DANIELS - 08/23/10 02:54 AM

Looks like Wolkowitz lost an engine at the grove over the weekend. Hope he gets another bullet before Indy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dH1BkOHgWY
Posted By: warfish

Indy prep - 08/23/10 12:28 PM

I am going to rent Martin this week, either weds, or friday. If anyone is interested let me know.
We will have 3 cars there.
WF2, FT, and HELL-HEMI.
cw
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re:HEADLINES, Read all about it!!!!! CHARLIE DANIELS - 08/23/10 04:57 PM

Quote:

Looks like Wolkowitz lost an engine at the grove over the weekend. Hope he gets another bullet before Indy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dH1BkOHgWY




Well that sucks, especially right before Indy. I love the announcer stating the obvious "this doesn't look good".
Posted By: Spyphish

Stickers - 08/24/10 07:48 PM

I made up 30 for the cars. Hope you join me. Since I did not get to cut his hair, we can put on a great race for him. Stephen

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Posted By: MikeCompTA 57

Silver Bullet - 08/24/10 08:13 PM

Silver Bullet on the cover of this months Drag Racing Action magazine! Way to go Don!

Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Silver Bullet - 08/25/10 01:19 AM

Frito sent this to me to see if I could get it posted....for ALL to see,,,I will try...!
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Silver Bullet *DELETED* - 08/25/10 01:21 AM

Post deleted by CHAPPER
Posted By: MikeCompTA 57

Paul Wilson - 08/25/10 01:35 AM

Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Silver Bullet - 08/25/10 01:36 AM

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: Frito

Re: Silver Bullet - 08/25/10 01:38 AM

thanks guys!! Fred/Mike, I will get up with you guys for some lessons!!
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Silver Bullet - 08/25/10 01:38 AM

hooray FOR me,,,,late ON THE TREE AGAIN!!! tOOK ME AWHILE, BUT GOT IT DONE AND BEAT AGAIN...All for a good cause though,,!! Hope all have fun.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Silver Bullet - 08/25/10 02:15 AM

Quote:

hooray FOR me,,,,late ON THE TREE AGAIN!!! tOOK ME AWHILE, BUT GOT IT DONE AND BEAT AGAIN...All for a good cause though,,!! Hope all have fun.




THANK YOU Frito and Chapper. Great job and I know Paul would like my design. Stop by in pits for some stuffed pork chops and a little Crown (if Frito still has it). Spyphish is running tonight so locking and loading this week. Next project a poem:

"Twas the week before Indy and all through the shop and house, every creature was stirring, even the spouse...

The headers were hung on the heads with care, in hopes that horsepower would be there...

The valves were all nestled snug in their beds, and we all have visions of them STAYING in the head."

More to follow and need help!!! This may need a copyright.
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Silver Bullet *DELETED* - 08/25/10 02:33 AM

I had to delete this post after talking to Frito on the phone......seems he had inadvertantly attached some nude photos of him and some of the SS/AH cars...........LOL J/K
Posted By: Frito

Re: Silver Bullet *DELETED* - 08/26/10 01:27 AM

I've not been very good on the Christmas stuff since at the age of two my dad said there would not be anymore gifts, Santa was killed in a tragic chimney accident. So I came up with this today,

With Bales in bling and Charlie in camo,
29 line up with their Hemis as ammo.

Super Cuda's still around & lookin dandy,
But Mels in the lanes looking for Randy.

Spyfish is lurking, wants power in excess,
He just returned from a trip to Texas.

The blue car from Cali, still is MEAN.
Raybourns' Dart will create a very big scene.

Dr. Dan & Wolkwitz, both in Darts,
Smoke & oil abound, look out for flyin parts.

Raines is coming, with help from Westcott,
Heli-Hemis new motor will mean a lot.

Cake has a choice of Cuda or Dart,
Holt says run the newest & play it smart.

Shine by Tookie, noise from Clark,
Kingfish runs fine with a holeshot start.

Campbell & DePillo working together just fine,
Mopar paint on the Mule makes it shine.

Wolkwitz & Barton, coming to play,
Power put out by Big Daddy Ray,

Lil Joe running safe, wants no valves bent,
Uncle Jeff watching over and bringing Steve Kent.

Mark & Wendell coming from across the border,
Want to put away the field in very short order.

Houser & Booker sliding in from the West,
Viera right behind, want to run with the best.

With his motor zinging and tach in the red,
Jeffs motor is his, Modern Clyinder Head.

Two colors of paint change in the breeze,
Check out the hues of Lewis & Keyes.

Colors on this car are far from vanilla,
Island Hemi brought up by the Chuck Comella.

The Cudas coming down from the Gold Coast,
This is the race Danny Zrust wants the most.

Perkins new car should stay off the bump,
After all his power is from the Grump.

Stan Perry with a new Gary Jennings car,
Will show up to raise the bar.

It may be HARD to keep the pace,
But Woos' old car is in the race.

The purple cars gone, shot like an arrow,
No entry for the MARVELous one, known as Darrel.

LLoyd Wofford has a car that's real bad @#%
If he gets out first, could be hard to pass.

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Posted By: Spyphish

Twas the week before Indy - 08/26/10 03:34 AM

Pretty good Frito. Trying to match the timeless poem my thoughts on next verse could be:

And Holt with his shock wrench and I in my hardhat; Had just settled our brains for a quick ¼ mile snap

When out on the return road there rose such a clatter; Then I asked Comella “What’s the matter?”
Away we flew to the track like a flash, only to see his hood in a smash.

Next verse is moon breast thing. You can do it!

Can't wait till we call out the racers! Dasher, Blitzen etc.......
Posted By: MFR440

Re: Silver Bullet *DELETED* - 08/26/10 05:56 AM

Great poem, until the last verse...

Quote:


The purple cars gone, shot like an arrow,
No entry for the MARVELous one, known as Darrel.




Hemi Challenge won't be the same without our buddy Darrel.

I still can't wait! Only 8 DAYS!!!!
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Silver Bullet *DELETED* - 08/26/10 06:56 AM

hey buckey are you going to indy
is your car ready? Ed
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Silver Bullet *DELETED* - 08/28/10 10:24 PM

Quote:

hey buckey are you going to indy
is your car ready? Ed




He is on the entry list. I see Charlie has a 426 Cad motor in the Warfish.

Good Luck to all entered. Someone take ALOT of pics.

Jeff
Posted By: Spyphish

Stud Duck! - 08/29/10 01:35 AM

In Louisiana when you got it all together, your Stud Duck, like the Saints last night and last year. Since CWJ is busy on those Cad motors, lets have some picks. My sensors have been watching cars all day and all I can say is get ready for some fast Hemis at Indy.

Top 10 in order (no offense fellow racers)

CWJ
That Dentist Dude
Sr
Super Dave
Wolk (if fixed)
Rainman with Cad
Kid Rock, I mean Hard
Perkins (no nickname as I have not met him)
Cake (got his shock fixed)
#10 ???????????????

In Athens, Al. Walmart parking lot (learned from Charlie), into Indy Sunday night or Monday AM.
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Stud Duck! - 08/29/10 03:03 AM

I hope Perkins can compete with CW, with Jenkins power. That car is very nice. Lets face it, Charlie is going to be tough to beat again. They make the power, and know how it get the cars down the track.
Posted By: sshemifan

Re: Stud Duck! - 08/29/10 05:12 PM

Quote: The purple cars gone, shot like an arrow,
No entry for the MARVELous one, known as Darrel.

So, what happened to the purple car???

Regards, John
Posted By: Frito

Re: Stud Duck! - 08/29/10 10:18 PM

Jared Jordan, someone told me you were looking for this. I hope this is what you wanted.

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Posted By: fascat

Re: Stud Duck! - 08/29/10 11:22 PM

HEY CUDA, WHERE WILL YOU FALL ON THIS LIST? RAN INTO YOUR C & W RECORDING ARTIST FROM LAKE CHARLES IN BAY ST. LOUIS ,MS. ON SAT. NITE.
SEE YOU LATER- LET US FOLKS KNOW OF RESULTS AS QWIK AS YOU CAN GET THEM UP. TELL HOLT TO KEEP US INFORMED.
fascat
Posted By: moparbrown14

Re: Stud Duck! - 08/30/10 05:29 PM

just watched the weather here in indy and a cold front with storms are forcasted for thursday and high of 82 less humid for friday. should be good air friday morning for first round. how fast will they go and who will set the pace.

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Posted By: FASTFISH420

Perkins - 08/31/10 04:33 PM

Is there any photos of Perkins car??I always followed him in his nsca days...with his Nova..
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Perkins - 08/31/10 10:00 PM

Hey Chris!!

You know, we still have a spot for you.....:)

Check out hemishootout.net and the gallery for Bowling Green 2010. That's about the only ones I know of.


Update #1 Indy 2010. It's hot. We're still in Columbus at work. Island Hemi is locked and loaded and headed west. We will be rolling into gate 8 ~ 7:30 am tomorrow. That's all I know:)
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: Perkins - 08/31/10 10:01 PM

What time Friday morning should we expect to see the SS cars on the track? Can't wait!
Posted By: Mopar Grandpa

Re: Perkins - 08/31/10 11:05 PM

According to the schedule I have the Sportsman Eliminations (Including the Mopar Hemi Shootout) begins at 7:30 AM on Friday. However, as you know NHRA can change the schedule and probably will especially if it rains on Thursday. I would check the website daily for any changes...providing they keep the site current. They need a GOOD Communications Director like the one that the Indy Mopar Club has!!!! Everything is a definate maybe.
www.oreillyracewaypark.com for updates.
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: Perkins - 09/01/10 12:40 AM

One of the Super classes is out first on Friday, followed by SS and then the Mopar race. So, they will probably be running about 9:30ish.
Posted By: RATPATROL

Re: Perkins - 09/01/10 12:44 AM

http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/EventSchedules/II1run_schedule.pdf
Posted By: Mopar Grandpa

Re: Silver Bullet *DELETED* - 09/01/10 03:02 AM

Quote:

I've not been very good on the Christmas stuff since at the age of two my dad said there would not be anymore gifts, Santa was killed in a tragic chimney accident. So I came up with this today,

With Bales in bling and Charlie in camo,
29 line up with their Hemis as ammo.

Super Cuda's still around & lookin dandy,
But Mels in the lanes looking for Randy.

Spyfish is lurking, wants power in excess,
He just returned from a trip to Texas.

The blue car from Cali, still is MEAN.
Raybourns' Dart will create a very big scene.

Dr. Dan & Wolkwitz, both in Darts,
Smoke & oil abound, look out for flyin parts.

Raines is coming, with help from Westcott,
Heli-Hemis new motor will mean a lot.

Cake has a choice of Cuda or Dart,
Holt says run the newest & play it smart.

Shine by Tookie, noise from Clark,
Kingfish runs fine with a holeshot start.

Campbell & DePillo working together just fine,
Mopar paint on the Mule makes it shine.

Wolkwitz & Barton, coming to play,
Power put out by Big Daddy Ray,

Lil Joe running safe, wants no valves bent,
Uncle Jeff watching over and bringing Steve Kent.

Mark & Wendell coming from across the border,
Want to put away the field in very short order.

Houser & Booker sliding in from the West,
Viera right behind, want to run with the best.

With his motor zinging and tach in the red,
Jeffs motor is his, Modern Clyinder Head.

Two colors of paint change in the breeze,
Check out the hues of Lewis & Keyes.

Colors on this car are far from vanilla,
Island Hemi brought up by the Chuck Comella.

The Cudas coming down from the Gold Coast,
This is the race Danny Zrust wants the most.

Perkins new car should stay off the bump,
After all his power is from the Grump.

Stan Perry with a new Gary Jennings car,
Will show up to raise the bar.

It may be HARD to keep the pace,
But Woos' old car is in the race.

The purple cars gone, shot like an arrow,
No entry for the MARVELous one, known as Darrel.

LLoyd Wofford has a car that's real bad @#%
If he gets out first, could be hard to pass.


Frito,
you are a poet
but don't know it.

But your feet show it,
they're Longfellows.
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Indy - 09/01/10 04:32 PM

Wescott 8.41. Thats crazy fast!!!
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Indy - 09/01/10 05:10 PM

Quote:

Wescott 8.41. Thats crazy fast!!!



Man where did you find that ? I have been looking.
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: Indy - 09/01/10 06:03 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Wescott 8.41. Thats crazy fast!!!



Man where did you find that ? I have been looking.




Go to the NHRA site and watch the live timing, it's great. You can also look up the qualifying order on there, too.
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Indy - 09/01/10 06:39 PM

iphone app works too for live timing
Posted By: DaveDudek

Re:HEADLINES, Read all about it!!!!! CHARLIE DANIELS - 09/01/10 10:30 PM

I'm on my Blackberry at work, can somebody post the ET's.. thanks!!
Posted By: fascat

Re:HEADLINES, Read all about it!!!!! CHARLIE DANIELS - 09/02/10 01:08 AM

C W JR.8.413
G. WOLKOWITZ-8.57.
CW SR.-8.590
W. HOWES-8.611
L. PERKINS-8.635
PANCAKE-8.637
RAINES-8.643
VIERRA-8.666
S. HEBERT-8.673
T. HARD-8.708
D. BALES-8.773
R. HOUSER-8.787
R. WARFORD-8.809
S. KENT-8.952
M. HOWES-9.077
R. CAMPBELL9.155
D . ZRUST- 9.192
J. KOBYBLISKI-9.295
M BOOKER-9.421
H. LEITER-9.865
L. WOFFORD- N/T------- AFTER 1 QUALIFIER RD.
Posted By: Spyphish

From Memory - 09/02/10 01:10 AM

Sitting with Jim Pancake and I think these are SOME of the numbers.

jR .49
Wolk 57
Sr 59
Howes 61
Perkins 63
Cake 63
Rainman 64
Viera .666
Hebert .67
Hard .70
Bales 77
Houser 78
Warford 80
Kent 95

More here but just can not remember!!
Hope this helps.

Big Jim D. just getting here and Comella finishing up punch list so big day tomorrow.
Posted By: NDragster

Re: From Memory - 09/02/10 02:42 AM


Starting tomorrow, we'll have live up-to-the-minute coverage of the Mac Tools U.S. Nationals on the new Interactive Indy blog. (link below)

This will also include coverage of Friday's Hemi Challenge.

http://www.nhra.com/story/2010/9/1/nhra....rting-features/
Posted By: warfish

Re: From Memory - 09/02/10 03:11 AM

Quote:

Sitting with Jim Pancake and I think these are SOME of the numbers.

jR .49
Wolk 57
Sr 59
Howes 61
Perkins 63
Cake 63
Rainman 64
Viera .666
Hebert .67
Hard .70
Bales 77
Houser 78
Warford 80
Kent 95

More here but just can not remember!!
Hope this helps.

Big Jim D. just getting here and Comella finishing up punch list so big day tomorrow.




have another beer steve, 41 not 49.
cw
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: From Memory - 09/02/10 04:05 AM

OOPS! Bad eyes and Crown from Frito. Congrats on the 41 which is very impressive. It is like when Tiger Woods wins the Masters by 17 strokes. You are in another world and the rest of us will have a close race. Let's have coffee in the AM. Stephen
Posted By: Mr. Smurf

Re: From Memory - 09/02/10 04:23 AM

Dang...ya'll pizzed the the fishman off good. He's coming back with a vengance.

Ed
Posted By: lorenr

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/02/10 06:56 PM

Unfortunately I live in a little different world and am unable to go to the US Nationals or for that matter any of the Hemi Challenge races (well maybe Vegas). None of you will probably ever know how amazing you seem to me and I just want to thank all of you racers and crews for what you are doing. I check your progress almost every day.

Very impressive

Thanks for all your HARD work.

Loren
Posted By: sshemifan

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/02/10 11:04 PM

I'll ask again, what happened to Marvel's purple car? And a new question, where's Bucky, thought I saw his car on the entry list?

Regards, John
Posted By: NDragster

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 12:24 AM

Bucky apparently broke an engine recently and did not make it to Indy.

Also, late word out of the pits is that both Westcott entries are broke and will not compete in the Hemi Challenge tomorrow. I am trying to confirm all this now but that is the current rumor.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 02:05 AM

Yes the Westcotts left. My intel (in the business) is both cars apart in Parma and one will return for the Shootout. As it is without them, Wolk "stud duck" and a bunch of us in the 60's. Should be fun!
Posted By: 65pacecar

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 02:37 AM

Is Dean Mink there this year, Out of Reading, Ohio?
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 02:57 PM

I didn't see the mink car. Just starting SS and challenge should be in at about 10:30ish. Weather is 73 and sunny and cloud covered.
No camo cars that I've seen. I'll post some results as I sit here and a bunch ofpics tonight. Nice seeing so many hemi cars and tons of people around them. They really need to be moved where the ps motorcycles are at IMO.
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 03:57 PM

They had a parade of the SS/AH cars during Super Stock and Bartons car caught on fire! From what I could see they got the hood up and put it out before the extinguishers came out. Not a good way to start!
Posted By: willp

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 04:07 PM

From the Drag Race Central site posting this morning. Doesn't look like either of the Wescott cars or Jeff K are in. Bummer.



CLERMONT, Ind. - Eliminations ladder in MOPAR Hemi Super Stock Challenge at the NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series, 56th annual Mac Tools U.S. Nationals presented by Lucas Oil:

Psn--Car-#-Driver--------Class--Ov/Un Ov/Un--Class--------Driver-Car-#-Psn

1 1945 G Wolkwitz SS/AH -0.754 -0.691 SS/AH L Perkins Sr 148 2
11 7005 M Vieira SS/AH -0.634 -0.585 SS/AH C Comella 1968 12

6 100H T Hard SS/AH -0.671 -0.663 SS/AH J Daniels 1517 7
16 721 R Houser SS/AH -0.532 -0.491 SS/AH R Warford 3410 17

0 Bye -0.690 SS/AH J Pancake 350 4
0 Bye -0.582 SS/AH D Bales 3392 14

0 Bye -0.657 SS/AH J Rains 799J 9
0 Bye -0.144 SS/AH H Leiter Jr. 342 19

3 138 W Howes SS/AH -0.690 Bye 0
13 1381 M Howes SS/AH -0.584 Bye 0

8 6027 M Booker SS/AH -0.659 Bye 0
18 452 S Kent SS/AH -0.397 Bye 0

5 1990 D Barton SS/AH -0.675 Bye 0
15 4300 L Wofford SS/AH -0.571 Bye 0

10 403H S Hebert SS/AH -0.647 Bye 0
20 5583 D Zrust SS/AH -0.108 Bye 0
Posted By: willp

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 04:09 PM

CLERMONT, Ind. - Final order after one round of qualifying in MOPAR Hemi Super Stock Challenge at the NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series, 56th annual Mac Tools U.S. Nationals presented by Lucas Oil:

Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz, Annandale NJ, '68 Dart 8.546 9.30 -0.754
2 148 SS/AH Larry Perkins Sr, Collegeville PA, '68 Bar 8.609 9.30 -0.691
3 138 SS/AH Wendell Howes, Rathesby NB, '68 Barracuda 8.610 9.30 -0.690
4 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.610 9.30 -0.690
5 1990 SS/AH David Barton, Robesonia PA, '68 Barracuda 8.625 9.30 -0.675
6 100H SS/AH Tyler Hard, Harrisburg PA, '68 Barracuda 8.629 9.30 -0.671
7 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.637 9.30 -0.663
8 6027 SS/AH Mike Booker, Davenport WA, '68 Barracuda 8.641 9.30 -0.659
9 799J SS/AH John Rains, Santa Paula CA, '68 Dart 8.643 9.30 -0.657
10 403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert, Westlake LA, '68 Barracuda 8.653 9.30 -0.647
11 7005 SS/AH Mark Vieira, Turlock CA, '68 Dart 8.666 9.30 -0.634
12 1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella, Sanibel FL, '68 Dart 8.715 9.30 -0.585
13 1381 SS/AH Mark Howes, Rothesay NB, '68 Dart 8.716 9.30 -0.584
14 3392 SS/AH Don Bales, Connersville IN, '68 Barracuda 8.718 9.30 -0.582
15 4300 SS/AH Lloyd Wofford, Jonesboro AR, '68 Cuda 8.729 9.30 -0.571
16 721 SS/AH Rick Houser, Pasadena CA, '68 Barracuda 8.768 9.30 -0.532
17 3410 SS/AH Randall Warford, Nashville IN, '68 Barracu 8.809 9.30 -0.491
18 452 SS/AH Steve Kent, Lottie LA, '69 Cuda 8.903 9.30 -0.397
19 342 SS/AH Harold Leiter Jr., Troy OH, '68 Barracuda 9.156 9.30 -0.144
20 5583 SS/AH Dan Zrust, Maple Grove MN, '68 Barracuda 9.192 9.30 -0.108
Posted By: moparbrown14

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 04:16 PM

its hard to believe after last years indy race where they took rains motor out and put in charlies car before the finals that they dont carry a spare bullet or 2. i know their spare might not be up to parr with their good ones but at least some kinda spare. not just pack up and go home?

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Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 04:47 PM

Pancake 8.62 W vs Silver B 8.88
Daniels 8.59 W vs SuperCuda 8.74
Kent 8.79 W vs Booker red
Hebert W 8.59 vs gold coast hemi
Perkins W 8.55 @ 154 vs Comella
Bella 8.60 @ 153 W vs Rains
Wolk [Email]8.50@156[/Email] W vs Viera [Email]8.64@156[/Email]
Howes dart [Email]8.70@150[/Email] vs Howes cuda broke
Hard W [Email]8.59@156[/Email] vs refrain 8.80
Barton W [Email]8.52@157[/Email] vs Wofford [Email]8.69@153[/Email]
Daniels left a flow screw loose but got it fixed. Met Frito, heck of a nice guy. Thank you
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 05:54 PM

My apologies Raines won in round one. My better half is taking the notes. Victories are right and so should the #s.
Probably a while before next rd.
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 05:59 PM

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=213588#indextop

Link with reaction times. Round 1
Posted By: JulieJordan

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 06:47 PM

Quote:

its hard to believe after last years indy race where they took rains motor out and put in charlies car before the finals that they dont carry a spare bullet or 2. i know their spare might not be up to parr with their good ones but at least some kinda spare. not just pack up and go home?



Spare bullets don't grow on trees!
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 07:52 PM

Round two winners:
Howes 8.59 Kent went red
Barton 8.56 Hebert went red
Pancake 8.63 Raines red
Daniels 8.57 over Perkins 8.53 what a race
Hard 8.60 over Wolk's 8.50 another great race.
I didn't realize but Perkins car is a stick as well as the Missouri mule. Next round in a while.
Posted By: Steve1118

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 08:03 PM

Here's a great link to motorsports journal...current...it has a current interview with CW explaining his failure yesterday, and also a piece on the Jenkins' prepped car.

http://www.motorsportsjournal.com/archives/2010/09/charlie_westcott_jr_is_to.php
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 09:14 PM

Round three
Barton 8.49@156 over Howes 8.56@154
Daniels 8.56@155 over Pancake 8.54@154
Hard 8.503@156.92 bye run
Hard vs Barton next round and Daniels with the bye. Very lose racing and I believe most are cutting lights in the double 0's.
More clouds and temp should be down more. The finals should be around 6-7 tonight usually right before first round of pro stock.
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/03/10 10:14 PM

Round four
Barton 10.15 lifted over Hard 8.48 (red)
Daniels cruised on through with a bye.
Daniels vs Barton in the final.
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/04/10 12:57 AM

Daniels on the holeshot win over Barton!!!
8.56@155 to Bartons 8.55@155.
They ran the hemi final between funny car and top fuel rounds. Tons of people to see very cool.
Congrats to Daniels!!!!!
Posted By: NDragster

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/04/10 01:40 AM

As a side note, when Daniels blew the intake off this morning, he used dental impression material to seal it. He was lucky to make it back in time for the first round. Great day for the Hemi cars. Read all about it soon on NHRA.com.
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/04/10 02:01 AM

What a close race. a .559 to a .560! .008 MOV. WOW. Great close race.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/04/10 02:31 AM

WOW! Congrats to Jim D... The real joy of it all is his young son (Toterhome schooled) there all the way with him. They have a fire issue in the parade lap and come back and win the whole sucker! That will be talked about in the family forever. Of course good job Super Dave. Barton stock up! It was a great day!!!! Stephen
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/04/10 03:09 AM

Stephan, great showing by the spyphish. Great looking Cuda.

Jeff
Posted By: 68shifter

Re: From Memory - 09/04/10 04:12 AM

Heres some pics from INDY. Some from elimination rounds and more so from out in the pits. I never did find the southland flyer cars and of course Hess' cuda wasnt there so no pic of it either.
Again awesome day of racing. Now we get to see how many stay for SS runoffs. Thanks again for a great show.






















Posted By: moparbrown14

Re: From Memory - 09/04/10 04:23 AM

thanks for the pics boy i sure do miss it. first us nationals ive missed in about 30 years. dont have the funds been out of job for over a year. thanks for the pics keep them coming

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Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/04/10 09:27 PM

Not sure I'd call em bullets
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 12:06 AM

Quote:

Not sure I'd call em bullets




Not sure what you mean? Would it be better to call them grenades?
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 12:57 AM

Posted By: Steve1118

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 03:35 AM

I might be missing something, but is that rear spoiler on Mike Booker's Cuda legal? I remember a small spoiler being an option, but nothing like that.
Posted By: maxie

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 03:37 AM

I think what you are seeing or are not seeing is that the trunklid is barely open with a battery charger at the base of it.
Posted By: j oliverio

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 01:21 PM

Had a great time at INDY. We brought Mr. Motech John Tedder with us and man did he enjoy his self and what a experience he is truely a nice person. He was astonished after winning ss/aa in the seventies to see these cars today. All the cars were fantastic. Way to go Bartons and all the SS?AH racers it was great!
Posted By: moparbrown14

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 03:43 PM

why did most of the hemi cars withdraw before the eliminator

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Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 04:53 PM

Quote:

why did most of the hemi cars withdraw before the eliminator




Seems to be the norm. I have noted references to different cars using "bracket engines" for divisional races. Perhaps they don't want to risk hurting their "kill" engines after the shootouts. I've also noted on a few occasions mentioning his dislike of the "bracket racing" that makes up the eliminator. Maybe some others share his feelings on this one.
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/05/10 04:54 PM

Quote:

why did most of the hemi cars withdraw before the eliminator




That is all most Hemi cars are there for. Very little interest in running a AH car in the "bracket" eliminator...
Posted By: gmoore

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/06/10 02:25 AM

congrat's to jim on his win. great final race. when you run heads up, brackets just don't do the job.give john teddar my best. met him at winternat's in late 60's when he won ss/aa class. enjoyed all the pictures that was posted.best to all. gary
Posted By: OUTLAWSSAA

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/06/10 06:15 AM

Quote:

why did most of the hemi cars withdraw before the eliminator




Due to index adjustments and additional weight that has been added to the AH cars the last couple of years,alot of them wouldn't qualify for the 128 car eliminator anyway.
Posted By: fascat

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/06/10 02:56 PM

NOT TOO SHABBY. 11 CARS IN SS/AH MADE THE 128 FIELD. THEY DON,T NEED TO RUN SS ELIM. THEY HAVE TO SAVE THOSE BULLETS FOR COLUMBUS & THE DUTCH LATER ON THIS YEAR.
Posted By: MFR440

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/07/10 02:30 PM

Quote:

I'll ask again, what happened to Marvel's purple car? And a new question, where's Bucky, thought I saw his car on the entry list?

Regards, John




Darrell is focusing on his business for the time being. I would bet that he will be back with a vengeance in the near future!

Shootout was AWESOME, but not the same without Bucky, Darrell, and the Warfishes. Congrats to Jim Daniels and all the competitors!!

Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/07/10 04:21 PM

Almost back in La. That was fun. The Barton crew really worked to help ALL their customers and even me. Ray looked at some Racepac stuff with me and gave info to pass on to Reher. They would shake and measure my car and then go adjust Booker. We all went a little faster each time. True sportsmanship. See 'yall in Columbus.

PS How 'bout it Dyno??? I got a filet says my Saints beat your Viks this Thursday!!! No points!!
Look for us ringside Sect 116 under Delta Airline sign.

WHO DAT?
Posted By: Dyno1

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/07/10 08:42 PM

I will say it was a great time at Indy. It is always fun and inspiring to race with the fastest hemi cars around. I ran well for what I have and improved from last year, but I am still a mile off from everyone else.

I will take up the bet on the Viking/Saints on Thursday, but I already owe you for two great meals at Indy. Dyno (Gold Coast Hemi)

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Posted By: ASA1711

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/08/10 12:37 AM

What ever happened to Hensley's purple Barracuda from Tennesee?
Posted By: mr2performance

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/08/10 02:05 AM

He still has it. He's been busy working for Allen and Roy Johnson on the pro stock team.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/10/10 06:06 AM

Quote:

I will say it was a great time at Indy. It is always fun and inspiring to race with the fastest hemi cars around. I ran well for what I have and improved from last year, but I am still a mile off from everyone else.

I will take up the bet on the Viking/Saints on Thursday, but I already owe you for two great meals at Indy. Dyno (Gold Coast Hemi)




Just so I am on post, car at Holt's for some tricks.

PS

Dyno, it was ugly but filet medium will be fine!!!
Posted By: nss guy

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/11/10 01:54 AM

was there any talk of a boycott of the hemi challenge???
Posted By: Dyno1

Vikings - 09/12/10 08:29 PM

I tried to listen to the game on my way to Tri State for the LODRS race. Not many stations carry Viking games in Iowa. Not a very good game for the northern squad. Maybe if you come to Topeka I can pay off early, or I will see you at Indy next year. Thanks again, Dan
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/12/10 08:39 PM

Quote:

was there any talk of a boycott of the hemi challenge???





When, where did you hear that, Jim?
Posted By: badwej

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/12/10 10:50 PM

Quote:

Quote:

was there any talk of a boycott of the hemi challenge???





When, where did you hear that, Jim?



Why?
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/15/10 01:21 AM

Any truth to the rumor that NHRA is considering fabricated tube k-members and titanium valves for SS/AH? Is that what this boycott stuff is about?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/15/10 03:39 AM

Of course I would be last to know, but have not heard a peep about a "driveout" except NFL next year. I plan on going to any race they have for the class. Stop by for a COOL one. SLH
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/15/10 04:57 PM

just as well allow coil over shocks ant r&p steering too while youre at it
Posted By: bwdst6

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/15/10 05:02 PM

For the amount that the K-frames are cut up now to make room for the oil pan and what not they might as well let them be tubular.
Posted By: moparbrown14

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/15/10 05:31 PM

they are almost pro stock technology. Im a diehard mopar guy, low ets, big mph, i dont care if they go 10.0s if they dont wheelstand they will lose their big fan base. i know they are for bragging rights and first one there wins but people,(ford, chevy, etc.) like the big wheel stand. do away with those you lose out. look how much press and pics of the a stick finals at indy ford vs mopar but big wheel stand. nobody even talked about how fast they went.

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Posted By: moparbrown14

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/16/10 04:11 AM

cmon guys . i posted this a long time ago. am i wrong to post this. it is just my opinion. i thought someone would have something to say

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Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/16/10 03:46 PM

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=28457
Posted By: bwdst6

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/16/10 04:07 PM

Titanium valves are bad but it's been ok to use Aluminum driveshafts for some time now?
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/17/10 03:36 PM

Quote:

cmon guys . i posted this a long time ago. am i wrong to post this. it is just my opinion. i thought someone would have something to say


I'll bite....

I'd rather see em' pop a 3 inch wheelstand and run a "7", than a 3 foot wheelstand and run a 8.80. But thats just me.
Posted By: King Cuda

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/17/10 09:33 PM

For anyone that cares check out Rod and kulture mag for a feature on my 33 hemi powered rod.Bucky Hess
Posted By: LO23

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/17/10 09:58 PM

nice!
thanks for the heads up,bucky.
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Congratulations to all of you in SS/AH - 09/18/10 02:25 AM

thats nice bucky
but wheres the cuda?
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Buckys coupe - 09/18/10 03:51 AM

I saw it at your shop before Travis painted the body and the chassis looked great. If it turned out half as nice as your Cudas it is awesome. I'll be looking for the feature in the mag!

Are you going to Columbus or the Dutch?
Posted By: nitrohemi

Re: Buckys coupe - 09/18/10 01:11 PM

bucky that coupe is one of the best I have seen in a while. I saw it at carlise and hope that you bring it to the Dutch. you also should take it to the grand national roadster show. nice job. love the color and the paitn effects. I love traditional rods and you nailed it.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Get Crunck! - 09/23/10 12:13 AM

In line with about 20 other folks at Jegs NSN. Wonder who is coming?
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Re: Get Crunck! - 09/23/10 01:01 AM

Stephen,

Please keep us posted as to what's happening there. With the lack of posts from other racers you would hardly know that there is a shootout this weekend. Thanks, and good luck.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: jegs sports nats - 09/23/10 02:03 AM

i am thinking about going,, i fixed my trans,, i think... wanted to go test somewhere but couldnt find the time,, i have so much work to do at my shop i shouldnt go... but whats the point in working hard if you cant go to the race...

my brother cant go, so id have to go by myself,, but im sure there will be guys to help if needed

ill call lil joe tomorrow, if he is going then ill go for sure,, if not,, ill think about it

jeff
Posted By: mr_340

Re: jegs sports nats - 09/23/10 02:13 AM

The Dallas national event is this weekend. I wonder if the Southland boys will come here or drive up to Ohio?

[SS isn't running at Dallas - Silly me. Jeff Teuton is running the Stocker here. Never mind!]
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: jegs sports nats - 09/23/10 11:16 AM

Quote:

i am thinking about going,, i fixed my trans,, i think... wanted to go test somewhere but couldnt find the time,, i have so much work to do at my shop i shouldnt go... but whats the point in working hard if you cant go to the race...

my brother cant go, so id have to go by myself,, but im sure there will be guys to help if needed

ill call lil joe tomorrow, if he is going then ill go for sure,, if not,, ill think about it

jeff




Jeff, what about that stuff I need to take back? You need to come, Jane will feed us. John and Ben are with me so you will have plenty of help. Plus with no Rainman, I am looking for a $100 race during quals. Stephen
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: jegs sports nats - 09/23/10 01:20 PM

i was hopeing to go but i did not get my pushrods back from trend until yesterday. Maybe the dutch or Indy fall classic. It has been three years since I ran it so I would like to get out. Jake
Posted By: Spyphish

Test day - 09/24/10 04:49 AM

Quote:

Stephen,

Please keep us posted as to what's happening there. With the lack of posts from other racers you would hardly know that there is a shootout this weekend. Thanks, and good luck.




Couple of us ran today of the 4 here this AM. Tyler Hard went an easy 63 after two spins to my experimenting 72 after a spin. Perkins and M. Mule did not test. I hope we have 15 or so? SLH
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Test day - 09/25/10 01:03 AM

i found this DRC.

1 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barrac 8.545 9.30 -0.755
2 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.586 9.30 -0.714
3 1990 SS/AH David Barton, Robesonia PA, '68 Barracuda 8.587 9.30 -0.713
4 100H SS/AH Tyler Hard, Harrisburg PA, '68 Barracuda 8.607 9.30 -0.693
5 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.649 9.30 -0.651
6 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz, Annandale NJ, '68 Dart 8.657 9.30 -0.643
7 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.697 9.30 -0.603
8 403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert, Westlake LA, '68 Barracuda 8.704 9.30 -0.596
9 148 SS/AH Larry Perkins Sr., Collegeville PA, '68 Ba 8.743 9.30 -0.557
10 5529 SS/AH Russ Campbell, Springfield MO, '68 Barracu 9.040 9.30 -0.260
11 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski, Macomb Twp MI, '68 Dart 9.313 9.30 0.013
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Test day - 09/25/10 01:04 AM

Did any other HEMI cars show up, or is that it?
Posted By: Ben Holt

Re: Test day - 09/25/10 01:21 AM

There are 12 total. Comella is here, too, just didn't make a clean run yet....but all is well in his camp! Jeff k. left after first qualifier this morning, and Campbell hurt his in the 2nd. There will be ten running tomorrow.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Test day - 09/25/10 01:32 AM

Thanks!
Posted By: Jared_Jordan

Re: Test day - 09/25/10 09:18 PM

How is the track surface? I didn't see CW's incrementals from Rd. 1, but I assume he spun.

Dave Barton was 1.36 to 60' in Rd. 2, I assume that was tire spin as well.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Hebert Wins??? - 09/25/10 11:05 PM

September FOOLS!!!!! I got beat by Daniels in 1st. My buddy Pancake will win with a bye. Jim D. hurt something. What a great day of racing and fellowship. Stephen
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: Hebert Wins??? - 09/25/10 11:26 PM

not that it means anything... i pulled out my trans today and took it apart, though didnt really need to,, you could see it once i got it out,, i cracked the stator support somehow,, its pushed over hard to one side which will cause it to suck air and slip then burn up.....

:-(

jeff
Posted By: VernMotor

Re: Hebert Wins??? - 09/26/10 12:10 AM

Way to go Jim !! I like seeing him win...camo cars went to sleep on us LOL
Posted By: Hemiroid

Re: Hebert Wins??? - 09/26/10 03:33 AM

Quote:

not that it means anything... i pulled out my trans today and took it apart, though didnt really need to,, you could see it once i got it out,, i cracked the stator support somehow,, its pushed over hard to one side which will cause it to suck air and slip then burn up.....

:-(

jeff




That sucks Jeff, but at least it wasn't a crazy expensive failure. Hope to see ya back out soon.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: Hebert Wins??? - 09/26/10 05:11 AM

no wasnt expensinve in itself,, but to goto indy and the to columbus with this little thing slowing the car down tremendously,, who knows how much,, sucks... o'well i have my other trans in it now,,, just need fluid and im running


anyonw know why pancake was thrown out?

daniels won.....
Posted By: brianvnt90

Columbus Videos - 09/26/10 06:43 PM

I posted videos of all the rounds from Columbus on youtube. They are hi-def, but viewing the in my "channel" makes them choppy for some reason.....view them in a regular youtube page and they view a lot smoother. My youtube is same as my ID here. Or just search 2010 ss/ah columbus and they will all show up. Enjoy!
Posted By: Dyno1

Re: Columbus Videos - 09/27/10 01:03 AM

Thanks for posting the videos. Dan
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Columbus Videos - 09/27/10 08:09 PM

anyonw know why pancake was thrown out?

well is anyone going to fess up? why was pancake trown out? was he cought cheating??
Posted By: Hemi_Jack

Re: Columbus Videos - 09/27/10 08:40 PM

Quote:

Piston dome not rite to much .002




Found this on Class Racer.
Posted By: SC304

Re: Hebert Wins??? - 09/28/10 02:24 AM

Jeff,

I heard the carbs were illegal????
Posted By: fascat

Re: Hebert Wins??? - 09/28/10 08:21 PM

Quote:

Jeff,

I heard the carbs were illegal????




I WOULD MAKE VERY SURE THATS A POSITIVE STATEMENT BEFORE I SAID IT. ????????>??
Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: Columbus Videos - 09/28/10 09:05 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Piston dome not rite to much .002




Found this on Class Racer.






piston dome too high by .002
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: Columbus Videos - 09/29/10 12:35 AM

they do not measure piston dome height in super stock,, only dome volume
Posted By: nitrojoe

Columbus Hemi Shootout - 09/30/10 02:59 PM

At Columbus I was called up to the tower a half hour before the shootout to ask (by Jay)to help out, it wasn't the smoothest deal lining up in front of bleachers, but all the drivers did great. I thank you all for that, but do you think the people from Mopar would even thank me for the help? nope, not at all, and i didn't get one from the Indy mess i tried to help out in. I'm just venting out loud, sorry.
Posted By: jake4cars

Re: Columbus Hemi Shootout - 10/01/10 10:07 AM

unfortunately no good deed goes unpunished in today's world.With your vast knowledge Joe, I am sure you did a terrific job, the real hardcore fans appreciated it,
Joey
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Columbus Hemi Shootout - 10/01/10 12:52 PM

Man I thank you. Your too kind as we both know I lined up in the wrong place. Remember my first pass, you arranged for me to get a bye?

See ya' at the Dutch. Hold the same rig spots for Cake and me. Thanks
Posted By: poppaj

Re: Columbus Hemi Shootout - 10/07/10 10:23 PM

I was up at Jim's Dealership to have the diesel worked on and found out that he was in the hospital directly after Columbus event. He is home now and doing better. His daughter told me that it was swelling in his leg. Sure hope he has a speedy recovery. poppaj

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Posted By: Somerdale Flash

Re: Columbus Hemi Shootout - 10/09/10 09:42 PM

Larry Perkins was at Atco bracket racing in Super Pro today. Went a couple of rounds.
Went 8.57 8.58 8.62 in a 10 to 20 MPH Head Wind.
157mph.

Got a call from John Baughman SS/AH today.
Will be at Atco tomorrow testing.
Posted By: Somerdale Flash

Re: Columbus Hemi Shootout - 10/10/10 11:32 PM

Today at Atco.
Larry Perkins ran 8.45 158
Second run dropped a valve. Motor will be at Jenkins shop 8am tomorrow. Will be at the dutch.

John Baughman went 8.62 153 shifting early on new Westcott motor.
Air was not all that good today for being in Oct. at Atco.
Posted By: mr2performance

Re: Columbus Hemi Shootout - 10/11/10 12:55 AM

Bales went 8.59 at 152 and change at Indy
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Class runoff at Vegas National event - 10/11/10 05:24 PM

What day do they run ss class at the upcoming Vegas National Event? Thanks
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Class runoff at Vegas National event - 10/11/10 08:29 PM

NHRA site shows Friday. U thinking about going?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Class runoff at Vegas National event - 10/11/10 08:44 PM

Yep, if I "ain't blowed up" trying to run with the Dutch Big Dogs. I have to be in French Quarter (& Dome) for Saints/Steelers Halloween night so will fly back to NOLA. Better than Mardi Gras!!!!!!!! Have you ever seen painted on clothes?

Friday class that weekend would work. Then after game etc ride back the next weekend in R&M rig to Vegas Division race. Race, get a GP, get my stuff and come home. Join me, have two extra game tickets and if we could get Rainman, Booker etc to go, heck a mini-shootout as 5 AH cars signed up right now.
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Class runoff at Vegas National event - 10/12/10 01:37 PM

How many cars u figure for the Dutch?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Dutch - 10/12/10 04:00 PM

My intel isn't what it use to be so?

4 Barton on steroids
2 camos
2 Chevy's
2 or 3 regular Barton's
2 or 3 militia (you)
a few others, hopefully the cook!

Let's say 15????
Posted By: JC Childress

Re: Dutch - 10/12/10 09:39 PM

Spyphish : my wife and I will be at the Dutch and we hope to come by and meet you. I will give ya a heads up though, were Cowboys fans....hope that doesnt count us out !
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: Dutch - 10/13/10 01:53 AM

Quote:

My intel isn't what it use to be so?

4 Barton on steroids
2 camos
2 Chevy's
2 or 3 regular Barton's
2 or 3 militia (you)
a few others, hopefully the cook!

Let's say 15????




Is there anyway we can get a cheat sheet for this test?
Posted By: Frito

Re: Dutch - 10/13/10 06:58 AM

Quote:

Quote:

My intel isn't what it use to be so?

4 Barton on steroids
2 camos
2 Chevy's
2 or 3 regular Barton's
2 or 3 militia (you)
a few others, hopefully the cook!

Let's say 15????




Is there anyway we can get a cheat sheet for this test?


Barton/Mahan, Wolkwitz, Daniels, Hard, Wescott sr, Westcott jr, Hebert,(R&M) Perkins,(Grump) Pancake, Comella, Bachman, Howes, and the cook says the greese is hot just right for fryin, some hens got away, some died tryin.
Posted By: jake4cars

Re: Dutch - 10/13/10 11:36 AM

HUGE to Frito and Spyphish!!, received the decals yesterday gentleman, you guys are the best.

Joey
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Need a sponsor - 10/14/10 10:46 PM

Looks like a little shootout action in Vegas in two weeks, just need a sponsor.

Rainman and Booker, still room in SS!!!!

Trick or Treat.....
Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: Need a sponsor - 10/18/10 12:00 AM

Steve,Ray,David, someone with Maple Grove connections ,Phil & Jill Painter will be there at the Dutch on Friday, if anybody has access to a couple one day tickets, let me know, I'll see what i can do also.
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Need a sponsor - 10/19/10 01:44 PM

The Dutch is this weekend. Sure seems quiet here anymore. Who all is going to be there?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Snakebit - 10/19/10 07:25 PM

Trying to go but new rig has water pump failure at 14k miles???? Stuck in Birmingham. May not make it or if so for Friday quals.
Posted By: Frito

Re: Snakebit - 10/20/10 12:50 AM

Keep coming, I'll save some spaghetti.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Snakebit - 10/20/10 01:01 AM

Ok we beezzz "Gettin' Crunk" down here. Warranty wait heck, twin Bens and I got her done. Should roll in The Grove Thursday night. Nitro hold me a parking spot. The La. Duck is coming.
Posted By: dragonfish

Re: Snakebit - 10/22/10 01:22 AM

FROM MAPLE GROVE LIVETIMING RESULTS: WESCOTT SR.-8.45;T. HARD-8.48; WOLKWITZ-8.40;BOOKER-8.59; BALES-8.64;JEFF K.-8.91; WESCOTT JR-8.34, 161MPH
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Snakebit - 10/22/10 01:40 AM

Quote:

FROM MAPLE GROVE LIVETIMING RESULTS: WESCOTT SR.-8.45;T. HARD-8.48; WOLKWITZ-8.40;BOOKER-8.59; BALES-8.64;JEFF K.-8.91; WESCOTT JR-8.34, 161MPH




8.34 @ 161!?
Posted By: willp

Re: Snakebit - 10/22/10 07:27 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnwRVAv_KuQ

Hope this link works. Hemi's at the end with Charlie Wescotts run.
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: Snakebit - 10/22/10 08:30 PM

Class racer reports Barton 8.31 160 DA around 0
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Snakebit - 10/23/10 01:12 AM

13 here. Check Hemishootout.net. All in the 8s. We(Spyphish) had a LOT of drama, guess the car is not use to the cold! Holt's got it down the track....
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 04:42 AM

cw had the fastest pass but spun the tires in the semis and lost to danials.david barton was a no show in the semis to race Wolkwitz.Daniels beat Wolkwitz in the final
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 01:23 PM

Quote:

cw had the fastest pass but spun the tires in the semis and lost to danials.david barton was a no show in the semis to race Wolkwitz.Daniels beat Wolkwitz in the final




CW had an 8.29 on one pass. The stick cars spun the tires on every run that I watched. But some times they spin to much and they blow the run. I'm still not sold on stick shift being better for this class. I think it is just a crutch for cars that are down on horsepower. The automatic cars were very consistant and many ran 8.32 et passes back to back. If you have the power like Bartons crew I would stick with automatic until someone figures out a better clutch package.
Posted By: Defbob

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 01:29 PM

I had a blast. I finally got to meet both Jeff and Steve in person. I enjoyed talking to both of you. Sorry if I talked your ear off Jeff Steve, amazing runs . You are the most friendly, upbeat, laid back SS/AH racer I have ever met. (except for when your switch wasn't working )
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 02:43 PM

Maple grove starting line was junk, especially the right lane...

Charlies making some power, just needs a good track, especially the way his car is set up. Not an easy combo to run for sure. Spun on every pass even the .29@162 and change. Went 162.74mph and stayed together, Not too shabby. Also nice to see Dan Jesel in the stands watching the Hemi action.

No sign of Perkins but didn't matter as the track was sh!t for a stick car anyway.
Posted By: dragonfish

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 03:57 PM

AMEN TO THAT !!! was there friday &saturday, auto cars had no problems launching,stick cars hit harder and there wasn't enough starting line for them.
Posted By: WayneM

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 04:47 PM

Finally,FINALLY made it to the Dutch. Always tried to go, but could never pull it together. Patience paid off as I was treated to some awesome action, and got to play with my new Nikon D5000. Here are a couple shots...

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Posted By: wildcargo

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 06:15 PM

Had a great time at the Dutch. I went to see the old Hemis run and run thay did . I would like to thank everyone that made it possible . I saw that Warfish was changing slicks before that last run. I wonder if he regrets that decision Would have bin nice to have more cars. I am sure with the weather being so good , even the wife had a good time, some regret not making the trip.
Thanks again
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: Snakebit - 10/24/10 07:56 PM

I was there also, good show by the Hemis. Daniels was on! 8.32,8.32 and 8.34 in the Final. I agree there could have been more cars but it was a good show anyhow. You have to give a lot of credit to the Hemi racers, track and sponsors for putting up the purse as the Shoot-out wasn`t sponsored by Mopar. How about the SS/ Modified Daytona from Maine running in the 7s Wow!!!
Posted By: kingdust

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 01:17 AM

you think wescotts are down on power! 8.29@162.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 01:38 AM

Quote:

Maple grove starting line was junk, especially the right lane...

Charlies making some power, just needs a good track, especially the way his car is set up. Not an easy combo to run for sure. Spun on every pass even the [Email].29@162[/Email] and change. Went 162.74mph and stayed together, Not too shabby. Also nice to see Dan Jesel in the stands watching the Hemi action.

No sign of Perkins but didn't matter as the track was sh!t for a stick car anyway.




That's pretty harsh saying that Maple Grove's track was junk. Was it junk when Scott Gove was running 7's with his stick car? I think Charlie just missed the tune up. It happens to all of us. You also make it sound like everyone else had perfect runs.

Its too bad there was a few cars missing. Pancake should have been there but NHRA suspended him for 6 months for the piston deal, which was actually legal in the first place, Perkins from what I understand hurt his engine last week and couldn't fix it in time, and Bill Brooks' rig was stuck in the Carolina's.
Posted By: ro23car

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 02:22 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Maple grove starting line was junk, especially the right lane...

Charlies making some power, just needs a good track, especially the way his car is set up. Not an easy combo to run for sure. Spun on every pass even the [Email].29@162[/Email] and change. Went 162.74mph and stayed together, Not too shabby. Also nice to see Dan Jesel in the stands watching the Hemi action.

No sign of Perkins but didn't matter as the track was sh!t for a stick car anyway.




That's pretty harsh saying that Maple Grove's track was junk. Was it junk when Scott Gove was running 7's with his stick car? I think Charlie just missed the tune up. It happens to all of us. You also make it sound like everyone else had perfect runs.

Its too bad there was a few cars missing. Pancake should have been there but NHRA suspended him for 6 months for the piston deal, which was actually legal in the first place, Perkins from what I understand hurt his engine last week and couldn't fix it in time, and Bill Brooks' rig was stuck in the Carolina's.


if it was legal why wasnt the decision reversed?
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 02:55 AM

David, Tell that to Elio Manino! Luckily no one got hurt. Yes the track was fast, but the STICK comp cars had a real hard time in that right lane ALL day. Daniels went right down the lane in the final and the three pair of comp cars that ran immediately after him shut off right off the line. Elio was the first one to get off the line after Daniels and 1000' immediately into the wall...

The Jennings chassis leaves more like a comp/pro car than a traditional SS'er.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 11:24 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Maple grove starting line was junk, especially the right lane...

Charlies making some power, just needs a good track, especially the way his car is set up. Not an easy combo to run for sure. Spun on every pass even the [Email].29@162[/Email] and change. Went 162.74mph and stayed together, Not too shabby. Also nice to see Dan Jesel in the stands watching the Hemi action.

No sign of Perkins but didn't matter as the track was sh!t for a stick car anyway.




That's pretty harsh saying that Maple Grove's track was junk. Was it junk when Scott Gove was running 7's with his stick car? I think Charlie just missed the tune up. It happens to all of us. You also make it sound like everyone else had perfect runs.

Its too bad there was a few cars missing. Pancake should have been there but NHRA suspended him for 6 months for the piston deal, which was actually legal in the first place, Perkins from what I understand hurt his engine last week and couldn't fix it in time, and Bill Brooks' rig was stuck in the Carolina's.


if it was legal why wasnt the decision reversed?




When have you ever seen an official in any sport admit they were wrong? Last season there was a bad call in baseball. The replay video clearly showed that the umpire made a bad call but the league would not reverse the decision.
I wouldn't expect something as small as a .002 infraction thats not on video to be reversed.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 11:34 AM

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David, Tell that to Elio Manino! Luckily no one got hurt. Yes the track was fast, but the STICK comp cars had a real hard time in that right lane ALL day. Daniels went right down the lane in the final and the three pair of comp cars that ran immediately after him shut off right off the line. Elio was the first one to get off the line after Daniels and 1000' immediately into the wall...

The Jennings chassis leaves more like a comp/pro car than a traditional SS'er.




You have to set up a chassis that will go down most any track.
The track workers can't help it if some racers setups don't work.
I live a few miles from Maple Grove. I get there a lot. I have never seen the lanes on a race day in a condition that I would consider junk. I've been to Englishtown less than ten times I've never seen it good. Not even close to Maple Grove quality racing surface.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 11:42 AM

Quote:

you think wescotts are down on power! [Email]8.29@162.[/Email]




Factor in the weight difference and the fact that there is no stall converter slippage wasting horsepower and he is down on power. If he wasn't his mph would be higher.
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: Snakebit - 10/25/10 12:06 PM

Quote:


The track workers can't help it if some racers setups don't work.
I live a few miles from Maple Grove. I get there a lot. I have never seen the lanes on a race day in a condition that I would consider junk. I've been to Englishtown less than ten times I've never seen it good. Not even close to Maple Grove quality racing surface.




You should have been to the last Atco points meet 3 weeks ago. State Police shut the event down when Super Street cars were having problems getting down in one piece.

Hats off to the Barton crew as there setup was obviously superior on Saturday. Would have been nice to see what Mahans car could do and don't know what happened to Gary in the final, but would've been nice to see him win one.

Hopefully these tracks are straightened out next year and Bucky will have his sh!t back in the mix
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 01:47 AM

Who is Bucky? There was a lot of cars that were missing. Please comment if you know where they are, what their plans are, if any.

Bucky - Not with Clark anymore? Line Performance?
Friel - Needs sponsor, car is 90% ready.
Hutton -
Turk -
Marvel -
Smith - In jail?
Hopkins - Ford Racing
Henson - Ford Racing
Pancake - suspended for 6 months
Ogburn -
Jenkins -
Rains -
Faherty -
Smyth -
Beshore -
Kent - Pro Stock Racing?
Teuton -
Wofford -
Warford -
Percy -
Wille - Coming out in 2011.
Who else is missing?
Posted By: StewartP

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 03:03 AM

You left out, my favorite --- Bill Brooks and his charming crewperson - Yahoo Alberta :-)

StewartP

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Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 03:08 AM

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Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 03:46 AM



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Posted By: King Cuda

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 01:02 PM

Who is Bucky? thanks David
Posted By: Frito

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 01:16 PM

Dan Zrust
Bill Kraft
Willie Shepard - Just needs headers
Lewis & Keyes
Bill Collett
Harold Lieter
Jerry Dailey
Dave Raybourn
Chuck Rayburn
Joe Faherty
Skip Loeffler
Matt Welker
Russ Campbell
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 01:17 PM

I was at the Dutch on Friday. The track was far from junk. Quite a few stockers were close to the rear bumper on 9" tires and this included stick cars. Granted later in the day the track temp got cold. I heard around 60 deg. and a few cars got loose down track during record back up runs but they were still hooking on the starting line.

Is anyone planning on heading south again this year to reset the record like last year?
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 01:20 PM

Hey Bucky can you give us an update on your SS/AH program? I missed seeing you guys at the Dutch.
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Whos Bucky??? - 10/26/10 01:40 PM

First in the eights when some were in diapers.

Please add my farming buddy Gary Moore!!!
Posted By: Frito

Re: Whos Bucky??? - 10/26/10 03:08 PM

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First in the eights when some were in diapers.

Please add my farming buddy Gary Moore!!!


ok

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Posted By: King Cuda

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 03:31 PM

I'll be back. New engine program started.Rays customers and Charlie jr are so in another league.Just tired of lookin stupid.
Posted By: Chris_Holton

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 03:48 PM

It's not "looking stupid" if you dont feel like spending half your retirement on a E.T. slip. I been around this stuff since I could walk and watched a lot of guys loose everything they have so they could say they are the fastest. Yea, it's fun but when does it become "stupid"...
Posted By: Frito

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 03:50 PM

Almost forgot,
Wayne Ramos has purchased one of Chuck Rayburns older cars and plans to race on the left coast next year. (maybe Indy)
Posted By: JC Childress

Re: Whos Bucky??? - 10/26/10 04:03 PM

My wife and I went to the Dutch on Friday and we had a blast. Other than being cold, it was great. I finally got to meet some folks that I have seen on here that I hadnt met.

Frito and Bales were super nice guys and Bales' car is a piece of art. I just kinda wish my wife hadnt seen it, now she thinks thats how nice my car should be, and I could never touch that. LOL
Jeff K. was very nice and helpful too. Hes a tall son-of-a-gun ! Hes younger than I thought too.
Spyphish was really fun to chat with and has a bad hot rod as well ! We both like some sub-par football teams too.........LOL.

The Dutch was fun and I'm glad I went. Thanks to everyone for being so nice. I wanted to meet Charlie but he and his dad were busy working and I didnt wanna bother them. I wish Perkins could have been there, but he'll be out again real soon.
I hope Bucky is out again soon too.
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 08:13 PM

Quote:

Dan Zrust
Bill Kraft
Willie Shepard - Just needs headers
Lewis & Keyes
Bill Collett
Harold Lieter
Jerry Dailey
Dave Raybourn
Chuck Rayburn
Joe Faherty
Skip Loeffler
Matt Welker
Russ Campbell




What's the word on "Wild Bill" Collet??
Posted By: Speedzone

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 09:06 PM

I know I don't post a lot here, but statements like the starting line is junk really bug me.
I know there are many starting line issues at various times at every track, but on a surface that is not ideal temperature (like during the dutch)it is difficult to make a consistent surface. Burnout tire temperature and other factors Like being in the exact perfect spot)are way more critical. The numbers many were running prove that the track must have been okay, good infact. It is as much of a variable by the crew chief, and guy lining up the drvier as it is the surface. Different compounds (traction) work different in different temperatures as well.
Way to easy to put it on the track surface in my opinion. Put some of the blaim of the crew and tire pressure and heat in the tire and placement as well guys.


Dean
Posted By: nitrohemi

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 09:20 PM

looks like bucky had more fun at the jaloporama in maryland with his bad hot rod. if you don't know what that is then check out jalopyjournal.com. Wish I would have went to both but went to the dutch. was a good time. it seemd I remeber not too lon ago getting excited when the cars where just going into the 8's. how much more can they go? as far as westcotts. I think when theyy get that trans figured out they will be way ahead of the competition. was watching them in the pits and that trans is still a learing curve

I also neede to comment on john baughmans car. it was great seeing him out there again. with an old race car and westcott power I think that says something for the power westcott makes. I thought the baughmans have another car too?
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 10:35 PM

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as far as westcotts. I think when theyy get that trans figured out they will be way ahead of the competition. was watching them in the pits and that trans is still a learing curve

I also neede to comment on john baughmans car. it was great seeing him out there again. with an old race car and westcott power I think that says something for the power westcott makes. I thought the baughmans have another car too?




How long were the Westcotts trying to figure out the stick car? At least 2-3 years?
Hopefully for them they will have a break through.
Baughmans car is at least 2 tenths off the competitive cars. At the et these cars are running that is a lot of hp to find.
Posted By: nitrohemi

Re: Snakebit - 10/26/10 11:50 PM

my point was baughmans car is an old race car. its been around along time. it dosen't have all the new chassis goodies thes others fdo with a few year old cars. once he gets that car figures out it will be fast. he only just tested at atco prior to the dutch.

also if westcots car is spinning when he leaves the line and he gets that figures out wherther be chassis or tranny his 60' will be killer. alot of races won from there. that 8.29 he did was clealy spinning or a weak launch
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 01:45 AM

bartons old dart has been around a long time too and it works?
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 02:41 AM

I left them (Brooks) out for a reason. I thought it was clear in the posts above that they were on their way but got stuck half way. I was listing people that haven't been out much or not at all.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 02:47 AM

Quote:

Who is Bucky? thanks David




You're welcome . Well, now that you have made an appearance, what are your current plans? Your fans would like to know.

2011?
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 03:11 AM

Quote:

Is anyone planning on heading south again this year to reset the record like last year?




I know Daniels would like to go. Haven't heard a definate answer from the other guys yet.

I assume Charlie will be there so we pretty much have to bring something to defend the record.
Posted By: Speedzone

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 03:54 AM

what was Charlie's 60 foot that would tell you if it spun
Posted By: GOLDUST

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 04:01 AM

Al Smyth is working on an engine program for the cuda,and the d.p.c.,and did not want to waste money on the entry fees to run 8:70's.When you,Jim and Charlie got down in the 20's,it sent a shock wave to everyone that did not have the money to spend to run the #.I love the fact that you guys are running that fast,but it kinda killed the class this year,in this economy.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 05:19 AM

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what was Charlie's 60 foot that would tell you if it spun



I seen his runs. He spun every pass. His dad also spun just as bad. He might be able to get an occasional quick pass with the lighter stick car but it is not consistant enough to win races. Reminds me of a top fuel car running on the edge. Might go fast might blow the tires off or might just blow up!
Posted By: nitrojoe

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 01:55 PM

My take on the Dutch........
It was a great event i felt as i witnessed a great deal by one engine program when you have 5 cars all running respectable numbers. This is saying a lot for the Barton Engine program.
Charlie was making serous power running 162, but getting it to hook every time and the round he lost i was standing on the line, he first spun and 100 feet out or so it when into tire shake big time.
Anyhow it was a neat race, and how many time has it been in the past when all 4 semi finalist goes 8.3's going into that round and its still a anybody could win event.
I also want to thank Ray & David inviting me to come and take a tour of Ray Barton Racing Engines on Monday, i was truly impressed with all the operation going on there. I have never seen so many hemi blocks and toys to play with in one building.

PS watch for the big drop off leaving there drive, i ripped all the wiring out of my trailer dragging leaving the lot, lol.
Posted By: SSDAcuda

Re: Snakebit - 10/27/10 09:26 PM

Quote:

Who is Bucky? thanks David




Bucky, get back to work! Until Travis has Viper Red in the gun, you have no time for the computer, LOL!

And how bout some progress pics??
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Re: Snakebit - 10/28/10 12:17 AM

Who is this Bucky cat whose name keeps popping up?

Has he ever run a Hemi Challenge?

Has he ever won a Hemi Challenge?

Has he ever been in the final or won a Challenge at Indy?

Ever held a SS/AA or SS/AH Nat'l record?

Can someone who follows these stats tell me how many Challenges or SS Eliminators he has won if any?

Is there any truth to the "First in the Eights" story and with whose power?

I am going to have a shirt made that says "Who is Bucky" and wear it to his shop to keep the fire lit. A little time off never hurt anybody. All you need is funds and the lot is always full in Martinsburg At Bucky's LTD.
Posted By: LAR_414

Re: Snakebit - 10/28/10 03:28 AM

I'm outclassed on this thread, but as far as a stick car goes. I believe that he has wheel spin BUILT into his launch technique. Ever see a prostock car launch? Wheel spin is done on purpose to keep the car in it's power band and not let it all go out of the clutch by running a slipper clutch. Kinda like what I do on my slow 11 second street car, when I run at the strip.
Posted By: proshiftcharger

Re: Snakebit - 10/28/10 04:21 AM

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my point was baughmans car is an old race car. its been around along time. it dosen't have all the new chassis goodies thes others fdo with a few year old cars. once he gets that car figures out it will be fast. he only just tested at atco prior to the dutch.

also if westcots car is spinning when he leaves the line and he gets that figures out wherther be chassis or tranny his 60' will be killer. alot of races won from there. that 8.29 he did was clealy spinning or a weak launch




On both accounts. Also John Baughman took a hiatus due to Lyme Disease he's been battling. Look for Baughman to continue to improve and get himself and that car where it needs to be.
Posted By: crossram

Re: Snakebit - 10/28/10 04:31 AM

Are you serious??? I think McCallum was first in the eights way back if memory serves me correctly.
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: Snakebit - 10/28/10 05:12 PM

Quote:

Are you serious??? I think McCallum was first in the eights way back if memory serves me correctly.




Yea, some may say that. But this mysterious Bucky guy was the first in the 8's AND passed an NHRA teardown. Big difference...
Posted By: ro23car

Re: Snakebit - 10/29/10 02:08 AM

Quote:

Who is Bucky? There was a lot of cars that were missing. Please comment if you know where they are, what their plans are, if any.

Bucky - Not with Clark anymore? Line Performance?
Friel - Needs sponsor, car is 90% ready.
Hutton -
Turk -
Marvel -
Smith - In jail?
Hopkins - Ford Racing
Henson - Ford Racing
Pancake - suspended for 6 months
Ogburn -
Jenkins -
Rains -
Faherty -
Smyth -
Beshore -
Kent - Pro Stock Racing?
Teuton -
Wofford -
Warford -
Percy -
Wille - Coming out in 2011.
Who else is missing?


that sounds like david wescott.
Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Snakebit - 10/29/10 03:24 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Who is Bucky? There was a lot of cars that were missing. Please comment if you know where they are, what their plans are, if any.

Bucky - Not with Clark anymore? Line Performance?
Friel - Needs sponsor, car is 90% ready.
Hutton -
Turk -
Marvel -
Smith - In jail?
Hopkins - Ford Racing
Henson - Ford Racing
Pancake - suspended for 6 months
Ogburn -
Jenkins -
Rains -
Faherty -
Smyth -
Beshore -
Kent - Pro Stock Racing?
Teuton -
Wofford -
Warford -
Percy -
Wille - Coming out in 2011.
Who else is missing?


that sounds like david wescott.



MATT HENSLEY - Pro Stock /Racing with Alan Johnson
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Snakebit - 10/29/10 12:31 PM

I sure would like to see Friel out again.
Posted By: nitrojoe

HANDOUT PICTURES - 10/29/10 04:21 PM

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I've talked to Bill Howell of Howell Printing and he has agreed to give a special deal to who ever would like hand out pictures made by his printing company. Bill is one of my main players in my stats as he does all my printing for me. Bill races in Stock and daughter Grace races in SS & Stock, so they are no strangers to drag racing.
Call Bill and ask for the "Nitrojoe" deal.
Here is his number: 803-649-2545.
Dont melt to much when the Georgia Peach voice answers the phone.
Posted By: estcsthemi18

Re: Snakebit - 10/30/10 12:44 AM

Gee David...We're humbled that you remember us! Now that you're almost GOD-LIKE we will try to remember to let you know what's going on....NOT!
Posted By: cgall

SS/AH - 10/30/10 01:50 AM

Good to see Ogburn and Jenkins are out again in Vegas.
Posted By: proshiftcharger

Re: SS/AH - 10/30/10 06:08 AM

some good video footage from
HEMI Shootout/Dutch Classic.


http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/video-hemi-shootout-from-the-dutch-classic-at-maple-grove/

just copy and paste if my link doesnt work.
Posted By: moparlulu

Re: SS/AH - 10/30/10 06:24 AM

Quote:

Good to see Ogburn and Jenkins are out again in Vegas.


And even Percy had his down there.
Posted By: Whompin_Wedge

Re: SS/AH - 10/30/10 07:30 PM

Ok what I don't understand is how Pancake could get suspended for having the "same" motor as Daniels and Barton? Why didnt they get suspended? Are they even the same motor? Someone keeping the best pieces to themselves I see...

I think its time Pancake goes to a different engine builder....

Casey
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: SS/AH - 10/31/10 11:32 AM

Quote:

Ok what I don't understand is how Pancake could get suspended for having the "same" motor as Daniels and Barton? Why didnt they get suspended? Are they even the same motor? Someone keeping the best pieces to themselves I see...

I think its time Pancake goes to a different engine builder....

Casey




Pancakes motor wasn't illegal. It was only one part in the motor that was found to be .002 in violation of the rules.
I don't know if there are any hard feelings between him and RBRE but if he wants to keep running competitive he will have to stay there.
Also what do you mean keeping the good stuff for themself. They don't even have a race car. David drives customers cars.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: SS/AH - 10/31/10 04:52 PM

just so you know,,, nhra doesnt suspend guys for having legal parts

i heard dome was 2 cc too big,,, thats 2,, not .002,, i also heard from two people that the domes were coated and thats why he was thrown out

i was told the motor was hot when they checked it for dome volume,, which if it was,, i totally believe you can get a wrong number,, as you pour fluid into the block heat exchanges into that fluid from the piston, cylinder wall, causing that fluid to expand therefore making you pour less in,, which will make the dome number bigger

nhra has also told guys it is legal to coat ports, chambers, pistons, etc.. then they say its not legal,, depends who you talk to usually
Posted By: Whompin_Wedge

Re: SS/AH - 10/31/10 07:01 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Ok what I don't understand is how Pancake could get suspended for having the "same" motor as Daniels and Barton? Why didnt they get suspended? Are they even the same motor? Someone keeping the best pieces to themselves I see...

I think its time Pancake goes to a different engine builder....

Casey




Pancakes motor wasn't illegal. It was only one part in the motor that was found to be .002 in violation of the rules.
I don't know if there are any hard feelings between him and RBRE but if he wants to keep running competitive he will have to stay there.
Also what do you mean keeping the good stuff for themself. They don't even have a race car. David drives customers cars.




why would he have to stay there? there are plenty of engine builders that are making power... RBRE is the reason he hasnt raced much in the past year... took them months even to get a motor out to him... now he is suspended for having that motor. Just doesnt make sense to me why he would stay there.

And david might drive a customers car, but it is still his name on the window. and look at daniels car... what does it say on the side? kinda weird that they are always on top of the field when there are other barton cars out there... maybe thats just me. People blamed Charlie for keeping his best stuff, well look at Barton.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: SS/AH - 11/01/10 12:11 AM

Quote:

Ok what I don't understand is how Pancake could get suspended for having the "same" motor as Daniels and Barton? Why didnt they get suspended? Are they even the same motor? Someone keeping the best pieces to themselves I see...

I think its time Pancake goes to a different engine builder....

Casey




Pancake doesn't have the same motor, its much older, less exspensive, and runs exceptionally well considering. He also knows himself that its not the latest technology. Why it didn't pass that night is beyond me because it checks fine, just like every engine we build.

Its a very long story, but NHRA screwed something up that night and they are holding information from us. I personally think their math was wrong somewhere, but they won't let us see the tech card with the info on it. They do the math on the back side and write the final answer on the front. I'd really like to see the back side of that card but they will not let us.

NHRA checked everything (carbs, heads, bore, stroke, etc.) out ok until they measured the piston dome. They kept coming up with different numbers, anywhere from 1 to 3 cc's too big. How your measurements can vary that much is beyond me. After 5 times of measuring they told us they were going to get back to us sometime that night to let us know what was happening. I figured they were going to sit down somewhere and review their measurements in private. They never flat out told us on the spot that he was being tossed. About 2 hours later we find on drag race central that they revised the final round and gave Daniels the win.

Trust me, if I would've known their final decision was to bounce Pancake, I would've looked into it much further. There is no way his pistons are too big. At the time I didn't want to insult their intelligence by questioning them in their own trailer about how to do their job, but now I wish I would have questioned it right then and there because we got screwed. I really feel bad for Jim because he won that race fair and square. He did a great job driving and the Holt's did an excellent job getting him from point A to point B.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: SS/AH - 11/01/10 12:28 AM

Quote:

just so you know,,, nhra doesnt suspend guys for having legal parts

i heard dome was 2 cc too big,,, thats 2,, not .002,, i also heard from two people that the domes were coated and thats why he was thrown out

i was told the motor was hot when they checked it for dome volume,, which if it was,, i totally believe you can get a wrong number,, as you pour fluid into the block heat exchanges into that fluid from the piston, cylinder wall, causing that fluid to expand therefore making you pour less in,, which will make the dome number bigger

nhra has also told guys it is legal to coat ports, chambers, pistons, etc.. then they say its not legal,, depends who you talk to usually




Jeff, I know what you are saying but the block was cold, you can ask Spyphish. He was freezing. Plus the dome was checked last, it was many hours after the race. And even then, how much can temperature possibly change the reading?

And the piston coating deal, where does this stuff come from? His domes aren't even coated.

What's even more stupid is the head gasket and the chamber were both far from being on the edge. If we were trying to cheat with compression why would we leave so much on the table?

Its a big lesson learned.
Posted By: BOSSHEMI

Re: SS/AH - 11/01/10 02:55 AM

Well said David.
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: SS/AH - 11/01/10 06:05 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Good to see Ogburn and Jenkins are out again in Vegas.


And even Percy had his down there.




With Raybourne, Faherty and Leoffler (sp?) there were 6 SS/AH cars in Vegas. Not a bad turn out...

...considering there were a few West Coast cars MIA. Mazz was there, but with a 383 in SS/AS. But no Viera, no Rains, and of course no DeFrank Hemi car. I think Raybourne lasted longest on Sunday getting taken out by one the Emmons's in round three...who also beat Jenkins in the opening round.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 11/04/10 02:46 PM

Quote:

Are you serious??? I think McCallum was first in the eights way back if memory serves me correctly.




On 11/25/94 McCallum was the first to run into the 8's. He ran 8.999 but never went to the barn for inspection. After Bucky ran 8.96 McCallum packed up his stuff and went home. If he wanted to claim to be the first he should have went through teardown to make it legitimate.

I have some cool videos from those (Bucky & Friel) days. I need to figure out how to convert them into a computer file.....in my spare time.
Posted By: DusterDog

Re: Snakebit - 11/04/10 04:06 PM

In your "Spare Time" David??? Good luck with that!!! Seriously though, when do you guys get any time off?? The way you fellows are working out there, it's a miracle you have any time to eat, sleep, shave, etc...

If you ever have the time to get to those videos, I'd like to have a copy. I was/am a big fan of Friel & that Dart of his.
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Snakebit - 11/04/10 10:51 PM

Quote:

I was/am a big fan of Friel & that Dart of his.




I remember a story in Mopar High Performance by a guy who
rode shotgun with Friel. (Defeo?) I always liked the car when
it was blue and white. Seems like he held the record then at
9.44 or something. Long before the internet.

Anybody have pictures of Friel's Dart?
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 11/04/10 11:09 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I was/am a big fan of Friel & that Dart of his.




I remember a story in Mopar High Performance by a guy who
rode shotgun with Friel. (Defeo?) I always liked the car when
it was blue and white. Seems like he held the record then at
9.44 or something. Long before the internet.

Anybody have pictures of Friel's Dart?




I have some decent pictures of Friel. I'll try to scan them by the weekend. Friel's car wasn't blue and white for long. That's the way it was when he got it from MacCallum. Circus Paint did a great job repainting it. It still looks good even 20 years later....or maybe more. Sure, it has a few battle scars but they all do.
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Snakebit - 11/04/10 11:37 PM

i think Friel had the record at 9.19
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Snakebit - 11/05/10 12:44 AM

I just read the article in a old mag last weak. When I go back to work tomorrow I will put up the stats.Jake
Posted By: JAKE68

Re: Snakebit - 11/05/10 01:49 PM

The car was painted the brandywine in 1988. John went out in 89 to break the record that MacCullum had set to 9.35@144.06 and went 9.33 2 weeks before Indy. He lost to MacCullum at Indy.This was the first time that he broke the record and it was Barton powered.
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Snakebit - 11/05/10 05:47 PM

would be cool to see a history of who set the record and what it was..anyone have any idea of where you could find that info?
Posted By: NDragster

Re: Snakebit - 11/05/10 07:02 PM

Quote:

would be cool to see a history of who set the record and what it was..anyone have any idea of where you could find that info?




I have that info available in the NHRA archives. It will take a bit of research and will be time consuming, but perhaps I can make it a winter project. It would be very interesting to see how many drivers have held the record.
Posted By: mr_340

Re: SS/AA and SS/AH Records - 11/05/10 07:10 PM

Quote:

Quote:

would be cool to see a history of who set the record and what it was..anyone have any idea of where you could find that info?




I have that info available in the NHRA archives. It will take a bit of research and will be time consuming, but perhaps I can make it a winter project. It would be very interesting to see how many drivers have held the record.




That would make a great article for ND. I can remember when DeFrank & Cohen had the bad boy in the mid-1980s. Ran something like a 9.38-.39 for the record back then. I saw that car once at Ennis (circa 1987?) along with the Banning & Slaughter Cuda.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 11/05/10 09:55 PM

Quote:

would be cool to see a history of who set the record and what it was..anyone have any idea of where you could find that info?




I agree, I tried to search for that info myself but came up with nothing.

Here is a list of the records we have set. I'm sure others on here can fill in some blanks. I'm not sure about Holton, Westcott's & Baughman. I think Baughman had it at 8.88.

Look, it only took 20 years to pick up 1 second. And lots of rule changes.

9.35/144.06 - 3/10/89 - Don MacCallum
9.33/***.** - 8/12/89 - John Friel
9.28/***.** - 4/7/90 - John Friel
9.24/143.10 - 3/14/92 - Dean Mink
9.19/144.62 - 10/17/92 - John Friel
9.17/***.** - 10/23/93 - Arnold Bucky Hess
9.05/146.77 - 11/12/94 - Arnold Bucky Hess
8.96/146.86 - 11/25/94 - Arnold Bucky Hess
8.88/148.49 - 3/14/98 - Arnold Bucky Hess
8.82/150.15 - 4/14/00 - Arnold Bucky Hess
8.64/***.** - 11/30/02 - David Barton
8.55/???.?? - ??/??/?? - Jim Pancake
8.33/157.96 - 10/25/09 - Melvin Jim Daniels
8.29/160.08 - 11/29/09 - Melvin Jim Daniels
Posted By: ro23car

Re: Snakebit - 11/05/10 10:05 PM

Quote:

The car was painted the brandywine in 1988. John went out in 89 to break the record that MacCullum had set to [Email]9.35@144.06[/Email] and went 9.33 2 weeks before Indy. He lost to MacCullum at Indy.This was the first time that he broke the record and it was Barton powered.


jake do you really have the time to be on the computer? shouldnt you be spending your time trying to figure out how to catch me.
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Snakebit - 11/06/10 04:03 AM

one step further, when was the last pre porter head, pre inline crossram ,pre tunnel ram records ----and what would be the record today with those same limits?
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Snakebit - 11/07/10 09:07 PM

Quote:

one step further, when was the last pre porter head, pre inline crossram ,pre tunnel ram records ----and what would be the record today with those same limits?




We ran real crossrams up until 8.50's. When Bucky was running 8.90's we still had cast crossrams, no sheetmetal.

I'm not sure when head porting was allowed but some people were really stretching the rules, that's why they eventually allowed head porting. Some people really picked up and some ran the same. Not too hard to figure out who was cheating. I wasn't old enough but I'm sure most of you witnessed this, I'm not telling you anything.

My point is, how can you pinpoint "pre-porting"? I would like to see the records too. I may be wrong but I thought it was pretty stale for awhile. Wasn't it stuck at 9.38 for a long time?

I remember going to Indy with hardly any SS/AA cars in the pits at all. Mopar was telling my Dad that Hemi's were gone forever, run a B1 instead. That's why Mopar gave John Friel a Lebaron to run in SS/AM. I'm glad my Dad stuck with the Hemi program.
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan

Re: LAS VEGAS - 11/07/10 11:49 PM

I know Bob Reed was in the mix there for a while.. not sure if he was in with ported or un ported heads.

I have that article with friel.It was with the blue and white paint scheme...and defeo riding shotgun.

I enjoy the et's and the class resurgence BUT I really miss the wheelstands, crossrams, and the mopar spirit of "the old days"

I will dig thru my pics and video's.
Posted By: Handygun

Re: LAS VEGAS - 11/08/10 04:24 AM

Have witnessed every Hemi challenge at Indy since the first, went to Bowling Green for the HRR and they had a mini challenge there and the cars were all on the bumper, now this might seem terribly naive but was that to follow the theme of the event? or the track? Every run was another phenominal wheelstand and my chevydriven buddies I go with every year were awestruck. Maverick and Riggle would have blushed.What gives? As far as your Dad goes David, I agree
Posted By: SSAAHemiFan

Re: LAS VEGAS - 11/08/10 05:39 AM

the old way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb2s45DGrWc&feature=related


the new way..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQye8ZlXTzc
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Snakebit - 11/08/10 04:02 PM

I think defrank held the record for a while at 9.37

Can someone explain why tunnel rams are permitted when the rule book reads : multiple carburetion applications must retain original relationshipof carbs ;e.g. Inline must remain inline. , crossram must remain crossram ? Seems pretty black andwhite to me
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: Snakebit - 11/08/10 05:02 PM

all they care about is the carb placement

they cant go back now... everyone has tunnelrams now
Posted By: mr_340

Carb Placement - 11/08/10 05:59 PM

This was posted on the NHRA site many years ago. I think it's still current.

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Posted By: David Barton

Re: LAS VEGAS - 11/08/10 11:51 PM

Quote:

the old way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb2s45DGrWc&feature=related


the new way..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQye8ZlXTzc





That's not a really good comparison. The 2nd video shows Valdosta when we were going for the record last year. We were battling carb issues that day. I also picked the wrong gears. Running for the record that day was basically a one shot deal. I wasn't about to jeopardize our chances by pulling a monster wheelstand. In those conditions it doesn't take much to screw up your launch so I tried to stay conservative. I wish the car would have pulled a bigger wheelstand that day because the record would be quicker.

The end result, Jim's 60 foot time was off by .03-.04 and there is no way to make that up once its gone. But we still clipped the record so I guess I can't complain.

How about this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFlLsb5nDcA&feature=related
Posted By: Frito

Re: LAS VEGAS - 11/09/10 12:49 AM

What was the 60 foot that day???
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Snakebit - 11/09/10 01:49 AM

I know that Jeff, just that the rule was written in black and white , and look where that went.. Makes no sense to me


And why can't ya go back?
Posted By: Spyphish

2011 Schedule - 11/09/10 02:36 PM

Belle Rose March 18 - 19

MATS April 8 - 10, one week after National event. GET TO WORK!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2011 Schedule - 11/09/10 07:48 PM

The Barton 68 Dart in the last post used to sit behind ny neighbors house with no front suspension--I bought it for $300 and sold it to the new owner for $1500--It had pieces of firewood under the upper control arms to hold it up so we could load it on the trailer. It went to Ken Kiers and came home after about $70k worth as a SS roller--that Youtube just thrills the former owner and the guys around here that helped me load it that day--not many turn out like that!
I like to think about these old cars this way--How many people have made $$ off of it--like the steel vendors to Mopar in 68--Mopar dealer, used car dealers, individual sales, chassis shops, on and on and on--don't forget all the property tax that has been paid by that ONE car--and how much gas that ONE car has burned --it is amazing what 1 car does for America in the long run---
Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: 2011 Schedule - 11/09/10 11:36 PM

Anyone know anything about Matt Welker's Barracuda?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juHdfvFm0YE&feature=related
Posted By: welkerm

Re: 2011 Schedule - 11/10/10 01:59 AM

Yeah, I just got my motor back. It's sitting in the car now. We will be out next year.

-Matt Welker

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Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: 2011 Schedule - 11/10/10 02:19 PM

Got any more pictures of the car Matt? Car looks great.

Jeff
Posted By: David Barton

Re: LAS VEGAS - 11/10/10 05:40 PM

Quote:

What was the 60 foot that day???




The 60 foot was 1.153 when he ran 8.29. I thought it was worse than that. It still should've been 1.11-1.12.
Posted By: mr_340

Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/10/10 06:18 PM

I enjoyed the article in Mopar Action on the Hemi build. $15k for a pair of heads? I guess I'd better stay on the porch. Maybe Santa will take pity on me and bring me a present?
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/10/10 06:42 PM

Quote:

I enjoyed the article in Mopar Action on the Hemi build. $15k for a pair of heads?




Yeah but you get a free t-shirt with every set you buy.
Posted By: HEMI472

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/10/10 06:46 PM

did anyone find pictures of John Friel
dart
or his Lebaron
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/10/10 07:12 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I enjoyed the article in Mopar Action on the Hemi build. $15k for a pair of heads?




Yeah but you get a free t-shirt with every set you buy.


If I send ya 15k for the t-shirt, can I get the heads for free???
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/10/10 11:47 PM

Quote:

$15k for a pair of heads?




I figured whoever did the heads, would undoubtably do the intake too?

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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:06 AM



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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:12 AM

I've got a bunch of Friel, Commella and others that I took at the Mopar Nats in I think 1989. I posted them in the old SS/AH thread but I'll post them again if you all don't mind...

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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:14 AM

More

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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:15 AM

Again

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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:18 AM

and again

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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:21 AM



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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:22 AM



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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:23 AM



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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:24 AM



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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:25 AM



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Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:26 AM



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Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:35 AM

Quote:

I've got a bunch of Friel, Commella and others that I took at the Mopar Nats in I think 1989.




I can't believe it. I was there too.

I haven't been there in years.

Smiths didn't live too far from me then.
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 12:39 AM

Last one for now...

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Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 01:11 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I've got a bunch of Friel, Commella and others that I took at the Mopar Nats in I think 1989.




I can't believe it. I was there too.

I haven't been there in years.

Smiths didn't live too far from me then.




I think they have "moved" now..!..??
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 01:16 AM

I thought they had a big house then.
Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 01:17 AM

Quote:

More



Opposite view....

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Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 01:21 AM

Quote:

I thought they had a big house then.



NO...I think they have it NOW!!!
Posted By: Frito

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 01:27 AM

LMAO!!!!!
Posted By: Adrielp

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 01:52 AM

I have curious question. How much HP was gained from changing from the cross ram intake?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 02:12 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

I enjoyed the article in Mopar Action on the Hemi build. $15k for a pair of heads?




Yeah but you get a free t-shirt with every set you buy.


If I send ya 15k for the t-shirt, can I get the heads for free???




I called RBRE last week to buy a set for us to "look over", was told NO! Did not even get to the T shirt part? If so, would letters be right side up??

Feelings hurt so auditioning for "Swamp People"...
Posted By: ss/ah3480

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 02:24 AM

Call charlie I'm sure he'll sell ya a set
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 02:35 AM

Nope! In Hemi Purgatory!
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/11/10 10:51 PM

Here is a nice shot of MacCallum from the good old days. Late 80's or very early 90's.

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Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup *DELETED* - 11/11/10 11:32 PM

Post deleted by dartdude
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/12/10 12:51 AM

Oldie but goodie

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Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/12/10 01:45 AM

david,, what was the relationship between don and your dad in the early years? 80's or whenever.. i heard your dad did the motors,, and it was don's car? then they had a falling out,, maybe don threw a hammer at your dad.. he has been known to do that... ive thrown a hammer in my brothers general direction before,,, we still talk though.... :-)
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/12/10 06:24 PM

Quote:

david,, what was the relationship between don and your dad in the early years? 80's or whenever.. i heard your dad did the motors,, and it was don's car? then they had a falling out,, maybe don threw a hammer at your dad.. he has been known to do that... ive thrown a hammer in my brothers general direction before,,, we still talk though.... :-)




My Dad built & owned the engine in Don's car. Don decided to sell the car to Eddie Smith without ever mentioning it to my Dad. Don never gave my Dad a dime towards the engine. And I'm sure Smith really just wanted the engine.
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/12/10 06:30 PM

John Friel's car from 1988.

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Posted By: THE GLASS MAN

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/14/10 04:47 AM

Quote:




The Marcum car is in my garage right now. Looks a little different now.
Posted By: badwej

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/14/10 09:28 AM

Here is the last Macallum car now.

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Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/20/10 04:57 PM

Who is going to Georgia next week? It looks like it could be really fast.

We're bringing Wolkwitz & Daniels. Bill Brooks is going too.

Westcott?
Baughman?
Kobylski?
Bales?
Howes?
Hebert?
Perkins?
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/20/10 09:26 PM

I will be in Dallas, deal me out. Charlie hooks, he breaks the record. $100 bet?????
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/20/10 10:32 PM

Quote:

I will be in Dallas, deal me out. Charlie hooks, he breaks the record. $100 bet?????




I'm 100% sure he can break the record, but will he run quicker than us?

I'll make a bet after the dyno session. Give me a few days.
Posted By: Slap Shot

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/21/10 09:56 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I will be in Dallas, deal me out. Charlie hooks, he breaks the record. $100 bet?????




I'm 100% sure he can break the record, but will he run quicker than us?

I'll make a bet after the dyno session. Give me a few days.




Dave don't forget to invite us over for the dyno session
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/21/10 03:41 PM

Dyno???? You must mean one of those rear wheel thing-a-ma-jig's. Certainly those motors are NOT out of the cars as they were installed midnight before the Dutch!!!!

What is your warranty policy?
Posted By: mokid

SS Factory Fenders - 11/24/10 08:32 PM

Sorry to butt in on you SS guys but I have a Set of Factory Original 68 Barracuda SS Fiber Glass Fenders in perfect bolt on shape if anyone is interested. You can contact me for price at cocox7@aol.com
Posted By: hemiaddict

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/26/10 02:22 PM

Who is in Georgia this morning?
Posted By: gmoore

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/27/10 01:05 AM

what's happened in georgia today??? record runs?
Posted By: moderncylinder

georgia - 11/27/10 01:55 AM

email i just received from charlie.....


feel free to report on moparts
I went 39 @ 160
daniels went 48 @ 157.95
wolk went 59 @ 154

air was 2100 when I ran, It got to 1600 later in the session, I had to abort 2nd run. I think I had 4 left.
Posted By: Frito

Re: georgia - 11/27/10 02:07 AM

A 1.21 60 foot. Rear tires???????????????
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: georgia - 11/27/10 02:43 AM

he didnt say that,,, but you guys know the stick cars are like .05 slow to the 60,, and .08 slow to the 330,,, or so.... due to lack of tq,, they dont have a convertor to multiply tq,, and not enough gear ratio for weight, and engine tq to move the car, would need a 5spd to match an auto cause of radilas and all,, then they start making it up from there...
Posted By: gmoore

Re: georgia - 11/27/10 03:44 AM

thanks jeff. hows your rig coming along?
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: georgia - 11/27/10 05:18 PM

well going to indy i had a guy weld a tq convertor back together for me and he put no clearance in it so it broke the stator support shaft,, or cracked it,, so there went indy,, then went to columbus after putting new clutches in that trans cause we thought i either ran it low on flluid or the convertor heated the fluid up and cause it to burn up,, nope..... slipped like crazy at columbus too.. put in my spare trans and went to milan to try to make a test run,, after sitting around for 4 hours i had left the fan/water pump on accidently and when i got up there to make my one run for the night,, car wouldnt turn over... came home,, and was supspect that the batteries were going down but thought if i charged them every run id be ok till the end of year,,, made one bad run spinning and shutting it off kinda early at maple grove then the batteries shorted out for first round..... came home bought two new batteries and had thoughts of going to georgia,, my brother went to get a haircut,, parked his truck in the parking lot closer to the road,, a guy jumped the curb and crashed into the car parked next to him but pushed into my brothers truck and bent the axle, tore up the bed, bent the tailgate,,,, couldnt drive it,, so now no tow vehicle... i stayed home and had some turkey...


working on a new head program,,, and building a new motor for me,, keyes, teuton, new manifold for bales.... plus i have about 70-80 sets of heads in here to do
Posted By: LSP

Re: Valdosta - 11/27/10 06:02 PM

Westcott went 8.25 @ 160 1.148 60'
Posted By: fascat

Re: Valdosta - 11/27/10 07:13 PM


thanks for results. keep us informed if possible.
thanks
fascat
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: Valdosta - 11/27/10 07:36 PM

Class Racer..backed it up for new record
Posted By: Spyphish

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 04:41 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I will be in Dallas, deal me out. Charlie hooks, he breaks the record. $100 bet?????




I'm 100% sure he can break the record, but will he run quicker than us?

I'll make a bet after the dyno session. Give me a few days.




Back from Dallas, won that deal. Out of the Ga. loop so now we got a bet??
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 05:21 PM

Charlie goes 8.221 162.72 this morning
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 08:00 PM



What are the current 4-spd and automatic weights on the SS/AH cars?
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 08:35 PM

clutchless 4spd 3170

auto 3210
Posted By: David Barton

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 08:55 PM

Here is Charlie's 8.22 run. Great run, congratulations to the Westcott's. Good thing I didn't bet Hebert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeHJOYkx0_8

We couldn't manage to keep Daniel's car hooked up for one single run. Here is an in-car shot.........you can hear the tires break loose before the 1/8th. While spinning in high gear he managed to run an 8.28 and an 8.29, but couldn't compete with Westcott's .22. Looks like we have some chassis issues to work out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H95UXmKJ8eg
Posted By: StewartP

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 09:35 PM

Island Hemi - if you do not bring some pictures back to our part of Florida, big trouble Bubba :-)

Tell Charlie, WOW - the Flying Fish Strikes Again

StewartP
Posted By: Barnstorm

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 10:19 PM

You guys should have done a pro stock burnout like CW...sub 1.15 60ft would have got him a low 8teen...either way both you guys pretty impressive..Billy
Posted By: island hemi

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 10:38 PM

Stewart the best picture u could ask for Barton posted from utube
Posted By: StewartP

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 10:48 PM

Chuck, when are you passing by Tampa on the way home. I will treat you to supper if not too late.

Stewart
Posted By: Whompin_Wedge

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/28/10 11:12 PM

Wescott is the man!!!

He does his homework and develops the best hemis around. Simply amazing

Great job to the whole Wescott crew!

Casey
Posted By: Albert Lee

Re: Vendor for Dart Lexan Rear Window - 11/28/10 11:21 PM

Sorry if this is a little off topic but is there a vendor for a lexan rear window for a Dodge Dart?

Thanks in advance. Al
Posted By: Dyno1

You Tube Videos - 11/28/10 11:37 PM

Thanks to David for posting the videos and congrats to Charlie for the new SS/AH record. Dyno
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: You Tube Videos - 11/29/10 12:06 AM

Congrats to Charlie for getting the record back. Good luck to the Barton crew in getting it back in the future.
Posted By: Spyphish

22 WOW! - 11/30/10 12:38 AM

As Forrest Gump said, "That's all I have to say about that!" or SwampPhish "WOW! Dat's all I gotta' say 'bout dat!"

My Duck license plate keeps getting more appropriate. Just remember, you gotta' have somebody to race.

Great job Charlie. Trying to get my hunert' back but no takers.
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/30/10 03:24 AM

Quote:

Charlie goes 8.221 162.72 this morning




So, that's like 1040-1050 HP out of about 441" max and S/S restrictions.

HP/in­³ would be like 820 HP out of my 346 with factory heads.

That's Incredible!
Posted By: mr_340

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 11/30/10 04:21 AM

I sort of wonder why CW doesn't just go Pro Stock racing? I think they already build Comp engines, so why not step up. I don't know what else is to be proved in SS for them.
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: Barton SS/AH Hemi Buildup - 11/30/10 02:24 PM

i dont think he makes that much power,, it depends on dyno's but a "real" dyno he would probably be around 1000,, which is still absolutely smokin
Posted By: bwdst6

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 11/30/10 02:37 PM

Quote:

I sort of wonder why CW doesn't just go Pro Stock racing? I think they already build Comp engines, so why not step up. I don't know what else is to be proved in SS for them.


I actually asked Ray Barton that exact same question last Friday. In that why hasn’t he ever gone to the pro categories. His exact words were… “There’s no money in it.”
Posted By: JC Childress

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 11/30/10 04:08 PM

Ray built a pro stock engine...well, a pro stock Truck engine to be exact. It was in 1998 for Tom Parham's daughter,Sondra Sikes.
Posted By: bwdst6

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 11/30/10 06:23 PM

Definitely Not much money to be made in pro stock truck anymore!
Posted By: BryanRad

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 11/30/10 08:02 PM

Thanks almost exclusively to Bernstein.
Posted By: barabaracuda

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/01/10 12:00 AM

?????
Posted By: Spyphish

Fat Tuesday, I mean Fast Tuesday? - 12/01/10 05:28 PM

Brunch at Holt's yesterday. We had PhishStick.
Posted By: BartonHemi

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 12:53 AM

I owned one of Sondra's Pro Stock truck motors from 02 to 05. Ran L/AA comp trim, 357ci, with a PG and 2850 wet. 8.82@ 155 best. Sounded like a bumble bee at speed. The guys at PRP would take OFF their headphones to hear the sweet sound it made. Never won a race with it though. HJ

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Posted By: fishy340

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 03:48 AM

Daniels= meathead
Posted By: David Barton

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 02:42 PM

Quote:

Daniels= meathead




Care to explain?
Posted By: moderncylinder

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 03:54 PM

i thought about this post i seen on my way to work this morning for some reason,,,,, jim daniels always says hi to me,, to my brother,, is nice in his personality,, he is one of the "good guys" in the class. why would you say something like that? you know all these guys have feelings, families, etc.. why insult them for nothing but to stir things up or to knock someone down. we all work hard and spend money in this class,, some work harder than others or spend more than others,, but racing your hemi car isnt a measure of your personal worth, integrity, or people skills...
Posted By: Frito

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 04:33 PM

I agree. Check out my post on Jim Daniels good guy, of just one instance. Another was at this years Dutch Classic where I watched him setting at the head of the lanes, straped in and already with his helment and gloves on moments before the final, having a conversation with a young boy about his car. Most guys would have shooed the guy away but Jim actually waved him closer and shook his hand when he saw him admiring his car.
Posted By: island hemi

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 05:54 PM

I was standing there Frito. If my memory is correct the kid was in a wheel chair. That was 1 class act on Jim's part. He is 1 of the best guys out here. Chuck
Posted By: sixpackbee

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 06:58 PM

Quote:

Daniels= meathead



That was uncalled for.
Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 07:44 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Daniels= meathead



That was uncalled for.




X2

I've spoken to Jim at the Dutch before. Always very nice and answered my questions. I also like the fact how he has his son involved with the race car. I've seen his son right there with him helping with the car.
Posted By: dragon

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 08:03 PM

I have met JIM DANIELS acouple of years ago just talking about the the shoot out and now if he sees me he aways saya something to me even though he does not know my name and he has aways been a stand up guy to me and the love he has for his son. you have to talking about another person that most of dont know
Posted By: Slap Shot

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/02/10 08:25 PM

Quote:

Daniels= meathead




why would you post that.

picture from 2010 at the Dutch

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Posted By: SS/AH148

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/05/10 10:16 PM

Great pic
Posted By: Frito

Re: SS/AH Hemi - 12/06/10 03:14 AM

Quote:

I was standing there Frito. If my memory is correct the kid was in a wheel chair. That was 1 class act on Jim's part. He is 1 of the best guys out here. Chuck


Yep, that was the same kid I saw Chucky C.
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