Posted By: moparts
2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/22/11 04:11 AM
All past years posts are in the Best of Moparts
Looking forward to another year of the Hemi Cars
Looking forward to another year of the Hemi Cars
2012 - SS/AH Super Stock
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/22/11 04:30 PM
Posted By: joshking440
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/22/11 04:33 PM
How do all the racers feel about Mopar allowing the naming rights of Hemi Challenge to usd by the group out of Indiana to promote and run the series? Do you feel that will help or hurt what you guys as racers have built?
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/22/11 09:19 PM
I think it's a great idea. Mopar only wants to be in control of their one event (Indy), and not run an actual series. With the several groups that try to run an event (Us, Painter's in Vegas, Mopar Action in Maple Grove, etc.) it will allow some continuity between all the groups, and give the racers a reason to travel a little more. With the possibility of a points fund and solid purses you might see more guys to more races. But this is all in theory. Nothing happens unless sponsors step up and help this grow. All they Nash's are doing is centralizing everything so there is a common theme. (Points, rules, race structure) The Nash's want only to make the "Hemi Challenge" as big as it possibly can be, which will then in turn have better purses and more races. They also own an AH car, and may one day actually race it, so they are seeing this not only from a promoter's viewpoint, but also the racers'.
I support it 100%. It will do nothing but help the SS/AH racing scene grow larger.
I support it 100%. It will do nothing but help the SS/AH racing scene grow larger.
Posted By: Speedzone
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/23/11 12:12 AM
2012 SS/AH calendars are almost done. Log onto speedzonemagazine.com for ordering info.
Dean
Dean
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/23/11 12:41 AM
I agree with Ben. The Nash folks also keep up the website and event photos without pay I think. I hope the Div. 4 guys help host a Choot out at Cajun Sports Nats in March. So far we have $5k. Hope to get us parked together, catered Cajun supper, more prize stuff etc.
Wet day down here so I did a little research on the class using DRC archives for Indy only.
Year ET Participants Winner DJA
2001 9.07 18 Hess 9600
2002 8.94 17 Beshore 8660
2003 8.85 26 Jenkins 9150
2004 8.73 22 Jeggie 10260
2005 8.69 27 CWJ 10600
2006 8.72 26 CWJ 11465
2007 8.75 30 Houser 13360
2008 8.63 28 CWJ 11540
2009 8.49 21 CW Sr 9440
2010 8.54 20 Daniels 10447
2011 8.42 20 CWJ 11240
PS DJA is not the finish line RPM!
PM address for your calendar.
Wet day down here so I did a little research on the class using DRC archives for Indy only.
Year ET Participants Winner DJA
2001 9.07 18 Hess 9600
2002 8.94 17 Beshore 8660
2003 8.85 26 Jenkins 9150
2004 8.73 22 Jeggie 10260
2005 8.69 27 CWJ 10600
2006 8.72 26 CWJ 11465
2007 8.75 30 Houser 13360
2008 8.63 28 CWJ 11540
2009 8.49 21 CW Sr 9440
2010 8.54 20 Daniels 10447
2011 8.42 20 CWJ 11240
PS DJA is not the finish line RPM!
PM address for your calendar.
Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/24/11 07:44 AM
I found this photo from OCIR page.. Don't remember the car all that well.. 
Maybe someone on here knows about it..
Thought you might like it..
Chris..
Maybe someone on here knows about it..
Thought you might like it..
Chris..
Posted By: camdog440
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/24/11 02:39 PM
Serious as they may have been, the rest of the match race clan was just as serious and the evolution of the "funny car" was under way. "Dyno" Don Nicholson was under contract with the Lincoln - Mercury division to compete in a factory backed Comet F/C and he along with Jack Chrisman, and Eddie Scartchman, raised the bar in 1965 with the first "flip top" fiberglass bodied cars. Their performance was dominating, and other racers soon followed their lead. By 1967 the "Kingfish" had become a flip top bodied car, with a state of the art Logghe chassis. Reyes and the "fish" remained competitive, but the expense and grind of maintaining a competitive racer was beginning to concern Bill Taylor. A brief flirtation with retirement from the drag racing scene prompted Taylor to sell the "Kingfish" to local racer T.B. Smallwood. The "Kingfish" name went to Smallwood along with the hardware. Taylor was out; for at least a few months.
The entire article...
http://lakelandraceway.com/profiles/profiles_larry_reyes.htm
Posted By: the truth
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/24/11 04:38 PM
To set the record straight Beshore ran a 8.86 and Bucky red lighted. He was never above an 86 and ran a 79 in am at 151.
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/24/11 08:38 PM
Quote:
How do all the racers feel about Mopar allowing the naming rights of Hemi Challenge to usd by the group out of Indiana to promote and run the series? Do you feel that will help or hurt what you guys as racers have built?
Who is taking over and from where? thanks, Dyno
Posted By: dragonfish
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/25/11 04:48 PM
RAY or DAVID BARTON, did JIM DANIELS pick up the car??? any problems or questions contact me at jlanz01@comcast.net or cell #7176493655. thanx and happy holidays. jay lanzino
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 12/27/11 09:18 AM
On post, who is doing what to which car????
NOW, after 6 ying yangs I thought I was with Bales again!!!!!!
Good thing you don't type with vocal chords.
NOW, after 6 ying yangs I thought I was with Bales again!!!!!!
Good thing you don't type with vocal chords.
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 01/06/12 04:30 AM
http://www.nhraracer.com/content/general.asp?articleid=48780&zoneid=132
Looks like it's official. 505 HP for both Auto and Stick SS/AH = 3200 across the scales.
Looks like it's official. 505 HP for both Auto and Stick SS/AH = 3200 across the scales.
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 01/08/12 07:44 AM
Not worried about the weight.
Michigan 0 ..... Louisiana 2 !!!!!!!!!!! SF here we come.
later
slh
Michigan 0 ..... Louisiana 2 !!!!!!!!!!! SF here we come.
later
slh
Posted By: Dyno1
Window nets - 01/10/12 09:22 PM
Has everyone sent in their window nets to get them certified. Going to the dyno tomorrow, going to try and get out before May this year. 53* in Minnesota today, a new record I think. Dyno
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: Window nets - 01/10/12 09:36 PM
Dyno we went to have ours done and found that if is a mesh type its every two years other wise no recert. Jake
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: Window nets - 01/10/12 10:00 PM
My net was a 3 year old custom Stroud, so I sent it to them to have it copied to fit properly. Good people, will be sent out tomorrow. Dyno
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Window nets - 01/13/12 10:48 PM
Calendars in the mail. SuperCars are out at ADRL!!!!
Antique blue dinosaur may be put in storage?????
Antique blue dinosaur may be put in storage?????
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Window nets - 01/14/12 04:12 AM
So, what upgrades are all you AH'ers doing this winter ?
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: Window nets - 01/18/12 12:20 AM
Spyphish - THANK YOU! 
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: Window nets - 01/18/12 12:38 AM
Any update on Bucky's new LineHEMI?
Posted By: Spyphish
Cajun HEMI Chootout - 01/18/12 01:01 AM
HEMI Choot Out in Belle Rose March 16-17. Just pencil it in as details will follow. Few calendars left. Stephen
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Window nets - 01/18/12 02:01 PM
its coming soon!
Posted By: Spyphish
Cajun Chootout - 01/19/12 10:25 AM
Bucky, finish it up and come to Belle Rose Sports Nats in March. Us D4 HEMI "Good Guys" are putting together a "Chootout". Have our payouts done ($10k purse), working on contingency prizes and press release now.
Also having trouble getting CWJ a Louisiana passport but I am pulling strings to get him in. (If he wants to come?) Won't answer my email.
Also having trouble getting CWJ a Louisiana passport but I am pulling strings to get him in. (If he wants to come?) Won't answer my email.
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Cajun Chootout - 01/19/12 06:23 PM
Maybe you can get a passport under the name, Charlie Boudreaux? That might make it go through easier?
Offer him some fried nutria and mudbugs. I bet he shows up then! Nutria: The other, other, other white meat! It's what's for dinner!
http://nutria.com/site14.php
Offer him some fried nutria and mudbugs. I bet he shows up then! Nutria: The other, other, other white meat! It's what's for dinner!
http://nutria.com/site14.php
Posted By: fascat
Re: Cajun Chootout - 01/20/12 12:17 AM
Sphyfish watch the way you use the word( ----- out) as there are beginning to have lawsuits over its use by Mr. landry
later
fascat
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/20/12 03:03 AM
Thanks, Fascat. Kinda like the hoopla over WHO DAT in 2009.
Thanks to CQ Racing, Kent Services & Trucking, Engines Inc. and Henson Family Dealerships we have a race. Thank you fella's for supporting the class.
Thanks to CQ Racing, Kent Services & Trucking, Engines Inc. and Henson Family Dealerships we have a race. Thank you fella's for supporting the class.
Posted By: Hemi_Jack
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/21/12 01:03 AM
Spyphish, Thanks for the Calendar. December looks great!
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/21/12 02:19 PM
Your welcome! Last in calendar because of "no flame, plain Jane" paint???
Any Hemi teams going from Gators to Belle Rose? How about a Wed. charter fishing trip?PM or email me. Stephen
Any Hemi teams going from Gators to Belle Rose? How about a Wed. charter fishing trip?
PM or email me. Stephen
Posted By: DusterDog
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/22/12 12:56 AM
Quote:
Spyphish, Thanks for the Calendar. December looks great!
Thanks man!!!
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/23/12 02:06 PM
Pat J. posted on class racer
No Problem Raceway is glad to announce that the funding is secured for another SS/AH “Choot-Out” at the 2012 JEGS Cajun SportsNationals. The Hemi powered Plymouth Barracuda's and Dodge Darts will compete for $10,000 in cash and additional contingency prizes. Sponsors for the event are:
Division 4 HEMI "Good Guys"
3001
Steve Kent Services & Trucking
Engines Inc.
Henson Family Motors
Payout is $5000 winner, $2500 r/u, $600 Semi's, $325 quarter finals. Qualifying begins on Friday, and the “Choot-Out” eliminations start at 2:00 p.m. on Saturday. Participants are asked to please pre-register in order to help us to prepare for pit parking.
No Problem Raceway is glad to announce that the funding is secured for another SS/AH “Choot-Out” at the 2012 JEGS Cajun SportsNationals. The Hemi powered Plymouth Barracuda's and Dodge Darts will compete for $10,000 in cash and additional contingency prizes. Sponsors for the event are:
Division 4 HEMI "Good Guys"
3001
Steve Kent Services & Trucking
Engines Inc.
Henson Family Motors
Payout is $5000 winner, $2500 r/u, $600 Semi's, $325 quarter finals. Qualifying begins on Friday, and the “Choot-Out” eliminations start at 2:00 p.m. on Saturday. Participants are asked to please pre-register in order to help us to prepare for pit parking.
Posted By: Adrielp
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/25/12 06:30 AM
Quote:
Pat J. posted on class racer
No Problem Raceway is glad to announce that the funding is secured for another SS/AH “Choot-Out” at the 2012 JEGS Cajun SportsNationals. The Hemi powered Plymouth Barracuda's and Dodge Darts will compete for $10,000 in cash and additional contingency prizes. Sponsors for the event are:
Division 4 HEMI "Good Guys"
3001
Steve Kent Services & Trucking
Engines Inc.
Henson Family Motors
Payout is $5000 winner, $2500 r/u, $600 Semi's, $325 quarter finals. Qualifying begins on Friday, and the “Choot-Out” eliminations start at 2:00 p.m. on Saturday. Participants are asked to please pre-register in order to help us to prepare for pit parking.
Me, my dad, and brother are excited to be coming down to watch you guys run. Lloyd told me he was making a serious effort this year so I'm interested to see how the engine development has progressed. See you guys there! The Paradise fam will be in the building.
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/29/12 05:17 PM
So far, I think Chootout will look something like this for participants:
Probable;
S. Hebert
Kent
Henson
Lloyd W.
Pancake
Perkins
Comella
Campbell
If we get the six from Gators;
Daniels
Wolk
Tueton
Hebert
Zrust
Howes
Maybe's are:
Jeff
Bales
Camo jr
Camo sr
Paillot
NO's are:
Hard (schedule conflict)
Hess
Sean from Ca.
and have heard nothing from West Coast cars
Could have a 16 car field!!!!
Probable;
S. Hebert
Kent
Henson
Lloyd W.
Pancake
Perkins
Comella
Campbell
If we get the six from Gators;
Daniels
Wolk
Tueton
Hebert
Zrust
Howes
Maybe's are:
Jeff
Bales
Camo jr
Camo sr
Paillot
NO's are:
Hard (schedule conflict)
Hess
Sean from Ca.
and have heard nothing from West Coast cars
Could have a 16 car field!!!!
Posted By: jake4cars
Re: Cajun Shootout - 01/30/12 12:34 PM
Thank You! for the calender Spyphish, mine came last week, very pleasant surprise.
Joey
Joey
Posted By: Spyphish
Gators - 02/03/12 03:30 PM
I am down 1 to Wendell and 2 to Daniels. May run over there to try for some rematch action. 8 cars in Gators!
8 cars in Gators!
Posted By: Dyno1
LODRS - 02/12/12 05:56 AM
Comella has 2 cars at the race? Good for them!
29 1969 SS/AH Steve Comella, Webster NY, '68 Dart 8.754 9.30 -0.546
30 2102 GT/KA David Swimm, Conway SC, '88 Cutlass 10.915 11.45 -0.535
31 2103 SS/BA Mike Meints, Panama City Beach FL, '69 Ca 9.377 9.90 -0.523
32 2035 SS/BA Dave Lindsey, Ft Pierce FL, '64 Thunderbo 9.378 9.90 -0.522
33 1968 SS/AH Chuck Comella, Sanibel FL, '68 Dart 8.780 9.30 -0.520
Posted By: caper
Re: LODRS - 02/12/12 06:21 AM
on racing junk
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: LODRS - 02/12/12 08:09 PM
Chuckie doesn't have two cars, Dan. I would assume they re entered the Dart for Steve after Chuck made a run, so that they both could get a grading point.....
I haven't talked to them yet, but I assume that. I know for a fact they do have two cars, but their second is in a holding pattern in a million pieces at our place!
I haven't talked to them yet, but I assume that. I know for a fact they do have two cars, but their second is in a holding pattern in a million pieces at our place!
Posted By: Spyphish
Bell Rose Chootout - 02/15/12 04:13 PM
Man if you are anywhere near Belle Rose on St. Patties Day, come to the Hemi Chootout: Both current an recent past record holders are scheduled to be there; Right now it is shaping up to be at least a 16 car field.
Westcott Jr
Wescott Sr.
Jim Daniels
Gary Wolkwitz
Jim Pancake
Chuck Comella
Wendell Howes
Steve Kent
Stephen Hebert
Fred Henson
Lloyd Wofford
Lil Joe Tueton
Tim Hebert
Dan Zrust
Gary Moore
Larry Perkins "Grumpy Jenkins power"
Russ Campbell
Maybes are;
Jeff Kobilski
Don Bales
Thanks to all coming. Looks like we will be feeding the Hemi crews Friday night. Will be a good show. Maybe I can produce "Green" at the line for St. Patricks Day. Stephen
Westcott Jr
Wescott Sr.
Jim Daniels
Gary Wolkwitz
Jim Pancake
Chuck Comella
Wendell Howes
Steve Kent
Stephen Hebert
Fred Henson
Lloyd Wofford
Lil Joe Tueton
Tim Hebert
Dan Zrust
Gary Moore
Larry Perkins "Grumpy Jenkins power"
Russ Campbell
Maybes are;
Jeff Kobilski
Don Bales
Thanks to all coming. Looks like we will be feeding the Hemi crews Friday night. Will be a good show. Maybe I can produce "Green" at the line for St. Patricks Day. Stephen
Posted By: island hemi
Re: LODRS - 02/15/12 07:53 PM
Ben that is exactly what i did . Steve will be driving the the car at Belle Rose and beyond except for Gators(He didn't have enough grade to get in) See you at Belle Rose. Chuck 
Posted By: Spyphish
SS @ NHRA - 02/19/12 05:57 AM
Tim Hebert is mowing 'em downon DRC. Good job.....
Posted By: Speedzone
Re: SS @ NHRA - 02/20/12 02:00 AM
Hey Stephen glad to see the shootout going to happen.
As far as where guys are placed on the calendars. I try and rotate so cars are not on the same month year to year. Next year you will be in a different spot, if you are back in.
I like your car dude.
Dean
As far as where guys are placed on the calendars. I try and rotate so cars are not on the same month year to year. Next year you will be in a different spot, if you are back in.
I like your car dude.
Dean
Posted By: Spyphish
Trophy - 02/24/12 02:44 PM
Anyone know where Mopar gets their Shootout Trophy's? Need to whip one up for Cajun's. Thanks
Posted By: W7_Scamp
Re: Trophy - 03/06/12 06:34 PM
Any news from Buckey Hess? Will Line's latest and greatest be ready for Belle Rose? And will it be able to compete with the likes of Westcott, Barton and Jenkins power? 
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Trophy - 03/08/12 01:48 PM
Should be on the dyno next week.....No....Hope so!.... 
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Trophy - 03/08/12 11:47 PM
about time... 
Posted By: joe teuton
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/09/12 05:29 AM
Hope we get more cars we only have 4 here. at gators. Wendell h.Jerry daily. Dan z.and me Teuton.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/09/12 06:15 AM
Congrats on winning class Lil Joe! 
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/09/12 11:49 AM
Nice run Joe! I think the Barton & Comella cars pulled out of the Gators to come to our Chootout. Looks like 16 cars in Belle Rose if the Camos come. Jeff on the fence, Bucky & Perkins both can't make it. Should be fun!
Posted By: island hemi
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/09/12 02:17 PM
I don't know about Barton camp but Steve and i will be at Belle Rose. Looking forward to that Cajun cookout. Rumor is there will be 2 camo cars there
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/09/12 02:42 PM
Good, we get to see how our new VALVE-AGRA system works amongst the big boys. No more dropped #1 intake valve at 9100 (I hope!!).
get to see how our new VALVE-AGRA system works amongst the big boys. No more dropped #1 intake valve at 9100 (I hope!!).
Posted By: Adrielp
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/10/12 07:48 PM
Lil Joe is going rounds this weekend and has a good chance at winning the race.
Posted By: Frito
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/11/12 12:13 AM
And also congrats to MoParts member Dyno1 going to the 3rd round!!
Posted By: fascat
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/12/12 03:53 PM
Frito ,will you be in attendance for belle rose this week end?
Mel Landy-- cancer survivor3 
fascat
Mel Landy-- cancer survivor3
fascat
Posted By: Frito
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/12/12 06:23 PM
Fascat, Interesting thing, I am coming to New Orleans Sunday for a week with my family on their spring break. I tried to talk my wife to letting me fly down a few days early and my wife and son flying later but it was not in my best interest. HAAH. 
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/12/12 07:19 PM
Way to go Lil Joe! Super stock runner up @ the Gators! Lost by .001. Next time watch out! My pick for the belle rose shootout!Congrats!
Posted By: 383man
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/13/12 02:03 AM
Wow Joe Tueton goes 8.499 on an 8.50 ! And he hit an .015 lite. The other guy went .037 with a 10.25 on a 10.25. Great race and good to see Tueton's car running so good. Ron
Ron
Posted By: 11secdart
Re: Bell Rose Chootout - 03/13/12 02:10 AM
Congrats! That was some race!
That was some race!
Posted By: j oliverio
Gators - 03/13/12 12:16 PM
way to go Little Joe your freinds at the WV Hillbily! When is Bucky coming out?
Posted By: Spyphish
Belle Rose - 03/14/12 02:30 AM
Looks like 12 without Camos (playing hard to get) 14 with BUT since I got a call today about "Gobs of power found during winter" from North of Mason/Dixson, maybe they should load up.
For sure:
Tueton
Tim Hebert
Spyphish Hebert
Pancake
Daniels
Wolk
Campbell
Henson
Wolford
Kent
Comella
Zrust
Maybes
Moore
Deer & duck blind camos
Jeff K.
Bales
West Coast???
For sures out:
Hess
Perkins
Howes
Baughman
For sure:
Tueton
Tim Hebert
Spyphish Hebert
Pancake
Daniels
Wolk
Campbell
Henson
Wolford
Kent
Comella
Zrust
Maybes
Moore
Deer & duck blind camos
Jeff K.
Bales
West Coast???
For sures out:
Hess
Perkins
Howes
Baughman
Posted By: Frito
Re: Belle Rose - 03/14/12 08:34 PM
Looks like the camo milita has blown its cover. Intel reports two platoons (Storm Troopers and Misfits) have left the Michigan base heading South for battle. 
Now in Mississippi, ETA at the bayou, 10:00 PM under the cover of darkness. Comunication blackout, not accepting phone calls.
Intel reports two platoons (Storm Troopers and Misfits) have left the Michigan base heading South for battle. Now in Mississippi, ETA at the bayou, 10:00 PM under the cover of darkness. Comunication blackout, not accepting phone calls.
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Belle Rose - 03/15/12 01:17 AM
BINGO!!!!!! I past them on La. 70 while I was Northbound to get Holt. They are HERE!!!! Also heard a PS racer with a hemicar and others were testing in BR today. This stuff is getting serious. As of 4 it was Zrust and Sledphish parked. Have Cake a spot with me but it is spelled in Cajun French. Go figure1!!!! Can they????
parked. Have Cake a spot with me but it is spelled in Cajun French. Go figure1!!!! Can they????
Posted By: island hemi
Re: Belle Rose - 03/15/12 01:48 AM
Stephen r they parking the Shootout cars together? if not save me a spot. Chuck
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Belle Rose - 03/15/12 02:00 AM
Yep! We are behind the starting line with the top dragster/sportsman gang. Hemi cars will be together. Be sure to tell them you are with the "HEMI CHOOTOUT" as that is a special tech card. If you want to run the eliminator you will need a 2nd card. PS I found something in the attic for Steve. He can put his "Bens" from me in it. Ha! Glad ya'll are coming. SLH
in it. Ha! Glad ya'll are coming. SLH
Posted By: MCHBOB
Re: Belle Rose - 03/15/12 02:09 AM
Good Luck to everyone Have Fun and be safe.
Wish we could have made it
Wish we could have made it
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Belle Rose - 03/15/12 02:47 AM
Off post and delete me if you like. Westlake, La. my home town; pop 3000ish. Joshua Ledet (WL) on American Idol just nailed it. Now maybe it's my turn. Bring on the Hemis.
Posted By: fascat
Re: Belle Rose - 03/16/12 12:49 AM
15 hemis as of 4 pm thurs. on site at belle rose.should be interesting on fri. morning
1 st. 12 on list & 1 st 3 0n maybes there. later
fascat
1 st. 12 on list & 1 st 3 0n maybes there. later
fascat
Posted By: wldtm
Re: Belle Rose - 03/17/12 12:08 AM
any updates?
Posted By: Frito
Re: Belle Rose - 03/17/12 12:21 AM
Daniels 8.39
Wolkwitz 8.42
Tueton 8.46
CW 8.49
CW 8.50
Comella 8.54
Kent
Pancake
Henson
Wofford
Zrust
Hebert
Hebert
Campbell & Moore broke.
Wolkwitz 8.42
Tueton 8.46
CW 8.49
CW 8.50
Comella 8.54
Kent
Pancake
Henson
Wofford
Zrust
Hebert
Hebert
Campbell & Moore broke.
Posted By: BartonHemi
Re: Belle Rose - 03/17/12 01:25 AM
Thank you Frito. Waited all day for this update. Hope raceday is good for all. Happy weekend HJ
Posted By: wldtm
Re: Belle Rose - 03/17/12 01:47 AM
thanks!
Posted By: wldtm
Re: Belle Rose - 03/18/12 12:10 AM
updates?
Posted By: Frito
Re: Belle Rose - 03/18/12 01:06 AM
Comella and Pancake both first round winners. More to come..
Sr and Cake in the finals!!!!!
Pancake out first but Sr. for the win.
Sr and Cake in the finals!!!!!
Pancake out first but Sr. for the win.
Posted By: fascat
Re: Belle Rose - 03/18/12 03:12 AM
Congrats to warfish sr. & pancake on good race. again thanx to all hemis for great comradire & all the memories that i will cherish forever about this race. henson,dyno- island, mr. moore & island
( BRICKHOUSE) comella. hebert, the holts & daniels, wolk, missouri mule, kent for the great get together on fri nite at his place,wofford
& anybody i mite have missed. again thanx for the memories-- eugene kelley later 
fascat
( BRICKHOUSE) comella. hebert, the holts & daniels, wolk, missouri mule, kent for the great get together on fri nite at his place,wofford
& anybody i mite have missed. again thanx for the memories-- eugene kelley later
fascat
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Belle Rose - 03/19/12 02:37 AM
Lots of Holler'in Cajuns on these semis and finals. Wow!!!! The Tueton/Pancake semi was another .001 race!!! Two in two weeks.....Thanks to Sonny and Melvin for the catfish and gumbo Friday night and Kent Services, Henson Family Dealerships, Engines Inc & 3001 for race sponsorship. Already working on next year.
for race sponsorship. Already working on next year.
Posted By: gmoore
Re: Belle Rose - 03/20/12 01:37 AM
thanks to all the hemi folks at cajuns. great time. thanks steve for great cookouts. charlie for pushrods, lil joe for 4 lifters.was ready for first round, then fuel pump died graveyard dead. glad we were there.good luck to all in 2012. good job to charlie sr. and jim.
Posted By: Spyphish
Vegas MATS - 03/21/12 02:12 PM
No rest for the Hemi's. Mr. Painter has lined up a dozen cars so far and Mr. Ogburn with the West Coast Hemi's continues his generosity with entry, fuel and food. So grab some of that $4.50 deisel and lets go! will be there.
will be there.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Vegas MATS - 03/25/12 05:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT4dzXurs...bj2mF1WI3ZLo%3D
here is a video of the final, in-car.
clutch was a little light, we probably left a little on the table.
thanks to Steve for helping to organize the race, and to all that put up money for it.
we wont be in vegas either. To much work to do. still working on my cam grinder.
I was explaining to someone yesterday that I feel like having my own cnc cam grinder, is like a hobby pilot having his own space shuttle.
anyways, thats what we are up to these days.
later
cw
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Vegas MATS - 03/27/12 12:57 PM
Seen a new car on qualifing list at div 7 race Joel Miner anyone have a picture of it said he was from San Francisco?
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: Vegas MATS - 03/27/12 02:50 PM
Bucky, when are you going to be ready!
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: Vegas MATS - 03/27/12 04:13 PM
They had a picture of it on DragraceCentral, too. Looks like Raybourn's Dart? He is either driving it for Dave, or bought it from him.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Vegas MATS - 03/27/12 04:48 PM
Joel Miner was driving the car for Dave Raybourn at the Div 7 race. Dave had other commitments and he wanted to get some laps on the car for the MATS, so Joel was drivinig it.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Vegas MATS - 03/27/12 04:58 PM
thanks, yeah Dave called me .I just thought someone else lost their mind also!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Vegas MATS - 03/27/12 05:01 PM
Soon with my Bracket motor!
Posted By: Spyphish
New Spyphish crew man - 03/29/12 10:21 PM
Welcome Eathon Ryan Holt, Ben and Amy's new baby to the team as of 2PM today. I hear all are well. Congratulations John/Karen & Ben/Amy. What a great bunch of folks, and now more of 'em!!! Stephen
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/30/12 01:55 AM
Thanks so much, Stephen!!
Ethan Ryan Holt. 8 lbs. 11oz. 20 1/2". Momma is doing awesome.
He's a smart kid already, he waited till after Belle Rose to come:)
Ethan Ryan Holt. 8 lbs. 11oz. 20 1/2". Momma is doing awesome.
He's a smart kid already, he waited till after Belle Rose to come:)
Posted By: JulieJordan
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/30/12 03:36 AM
Quote:
Thanks so much, Stephen!!
Ethan Ryan Holt. 8 lbs. 11oz. 20 1/2". Momma is doing awesome.
He's a smart kid already, he waited till after Belle Rose to come:)
Congratulations!
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/30/12 12:34 PM
Way to go and congratulations to the Holts! Your freinds in WV.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/30/12 12:47 PM
Congrats, New Hemi fan!
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/30/12 05:31 PM
Congrats to Ben and family and to the new grandpa. jake
Posted By: ro23car
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/31/12 01:07 AM
congrats ben.um do they make jerky flavored baby food?
Posted By: fascat
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/31/12 09:16 AM
Congrats to all of the holts. daddy & grandpa. a great family & the new son. later fascat
Posted By: Ben Holt
Re: New Spyphish crew man - 03/31/12 08:05 PM
Thank you, everyone!!
Bill, I hope so. lol
Bill, I hope so. lol
Posted By: Spyphish
Charlie told me to practice. - 04/01/12 08:14 PM
Take a look at Louisiana Bad Boyz Racing blog. Practice makes perfect. Wonder what it ran???? Where is a spy when you need one??
when you need one??
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Charlie told me to practice. - 04/02/12 03:15 AM
Quote:Do you have the security clearance and the need to know?
Where is a spy
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Charlie told me to practice. - 04/04/12 02:05 AM
Not any more, but my intel says David Barton will be in the "Stud Duck" Dart at MATS. And I was going to get a new "filling" and smoke a CIGAR with Jim. D. Ya'll come out, should be a good race.
intel says David Barton will be in the "Stud Duck" Dart at MATS. And I was going to get a new "filling" and smoke a CIGAR with Jim. D. Ya'll come out, should be a good race.
Posted By: Dyno1
MATS - 04/13/12 04:14 AM
good luck everyone this weekend - have fun. Dyno
Posted By: Spyphish
Visa Commercial - 04/13/12 06:51 PM
Price of fuel La to Vegas $1500
Food & Beverage for the trip $500
See Dave Barton's name over CWJ on the Painter Cup PRICELESS
8.46 158 and change!!!!!!
We are # 5 with a 70
Food & Beverage for the trip $500
See Dave Barton's name over CWJ on the Painter Cup PRICELESS
8.46 158 and change!!!!!!
We are # 5 with a 70
Posted By: HEMI472
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/13/12 10:19 PM
what is all the results from vagas in the ss/ah cars?? 
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/13/12 10:25 PM
Quote:
what is all the results from vagas in the ss/ah cars??
THANKS Doug!
http://www.hemishootout.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=126
Posted By: MCHBOB
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/13/12 11:03 PM
WHATS THE PAYOUT?
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/13/12 11:43 PM
Quote:
WHATS THE PAYOUT?
Entry fee: TBA
E-mail moparsatthestrip@hotmail.com your race confirmation two weeks prior to the event. Or call 702-256-8254.
Purse: Based on 16 Cars Field, All entry must run under 9.53 (Current NHRA SS/AH index for alt adjusted track)
Winner: TBD
Runner Up: TBD
Semi's: TBD
Low ET: TBD
Posted By: Frito
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/14/12 12:26 AM
I understand a West Coast Racer paid the enrty fee for all SS/AH as he has done in the past.
Posted By: Barnstorm
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/14/12 01:57 AM
David Barton lo qual after 2 rounds...8.439...159+
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/14/12 02:20 AM
Qualifying Order after 3 (sorta?) sessions:
1. Barton -- 8.439 @ 159.23
2. Wolkwitz -- 8.603 @ 155.76
3. Houser -- 8.617 @ 156.41
4. Raybourn -- 8.630 @ 153.77
5. Teuton, Jr. -- 8.631 @ 157.12
6. S. Hebert -- 8.699 @ 156.26
7. Vieira -- 8.721 @ 153.44
8. Booker -- 8.769 @ 153.91
9. Percy -- 8.823 @ 151.78
10. Rayburn -- 8.834 @ 152.19
11. Ogburn -- 8.868 @ 138.06
12. T. Hebert -- 8.905 @ 150.18
13. Jenkins -- 9.302 @ 149.00
14. Moore -- 9.471 @ 141.86
Two things: 1) wish I could be there, and 2) congratulations to the Barton crew, that's flying!
1. Barton -- 8.439 @ 159.23
2. Wolkwitz -- 8.603 @ 155.76
3. Houser -- 8.617 @ 156.41
4. Raybourn -- 8.630 @ 153.77
5. Teuton, Jr. -- 8.631 @ 157.12
6. S. Hebert -- 8.699 @ 156.26
7. Vieira -- 8.721 @ 153.44
8. Booker -- 8.769 @ 153.91
9. Percy -- 8.823 @ 151.78
10. Rayburn -- 8.834 @ 152.19
11. Ogburn -- 8.868 @ 138.06
12. T. Hebert -- 8.905 @ 150.18
13. Jenkins -- 9.302 @ 149.00
14. Moore -- 9.471 @ 141.86
Two things: 1) wish I could be there, and 2) congratulations to the Barton crew, that's flying!
Posted By: MCHBOB
Re: Visa Commercial - 04/14/12 06:43 PM
Quote:Quote:
WHATS THE PAYOUT?
Entry fee: TBA
E-mail moparsatthestrip@hotmail.com your race confirmation two weeks prior to the event. Or call 702-256-8254.
Purse: Based on 16 Cars Field, All entry must run under 9.53 (Current NHRA SS/AH index for alt adjusted track)
Winner: TBD
Runner Up: TBD
Semi's: TBD
Low ET: TBD
Thanks John
Posted By: Frito
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/15/12 02:19 PM
Quote:Someone has!!!! He's not driving yet but his car is out there.
thanks, yeah Dave called me .I just thought someone else lost their mind also!
Posted By: fascat
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/15/12 07:40 PM
It will be 2 east coast cars in finals at vegas shootout- daniels/barton car versus wolk- earthquake car. 
Posted By: fascat
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/15/12 09:06 PM
Young barton in finals win 8.55 over a out of shape (earthquake-wolks) las vegas shootout finals.
Posted By: Frito
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/20/12 05:45 PM
Larry Perkins with an 8.43 just now. Looks like 40s are going to be the norm this year.
Posted By: racer_amx
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/20/12 05:52 PM
Quote:
Larry Perkins with an 8.43 just now. Looks like 40s are going to be the norm this year.
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/20/12 07:02 PM
Quote:
Larry Perkins with an 8.43 just now. Looks like 40s are going to be the norm this year.
That means the norm for Wescott will be the 30's!! Probably LOW 30's...
Posted By: BartonHemi
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/21/12 02:35 AM
And their racing where now??? Just out of the loop???? 
Posted By: BOSSHEMI
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/21/12 01:52 PM
Dinwiddie points meet. Adam Keir set record at 9.89 in his Nova stocker. Congrats on Vegas David. Whats up with Hards car and Wolks new car?
Posted By: BartonHemi
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/28/12 03:42 AM
Tyler's workin real Hard (pun intended) and Wolk's new car is the stuff I'd die for. Takes a lot to bring a new car up. But I'm sure Gary is up to the Challenger (another pun) But the Barton camp works really tough and are ready for the next level. It's why I've been a little guy there for 16 years. Wanna win? Talk to the Boss. Not talkin trash about anyone, They all are super players. But you only get what you pay for. HTH HJ
Posted By: joe teuton
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/28/12 08:00 AM
Nice run by jim p glad to see jeff k back at track at indy d-3. We have 3-carsa here in houston fred h.Tim h and me. Run class tomorrow.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: Vegas MATS - 04/28/12 12:30 PM
Very nice runs yourself there Joe.
Posted By: Spyphish
Spring Nationals - 04/29/12 02:56 AM
Congrats to Joe on class win BUT even better is Joe and Hebert (not me) still in the top cars of SS. Good luck guys. The SOUTH-land rises again!!! I will be watchin'. Stephen
will be watchin'. Stephen
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Spring Nationals - 04/29/12 10:40 PM
Congrats to Lil Joe,If he isn't the best driver out there I don't no who is,Gatornational Finalist, Houston National semi finalist. Not many can top that!
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: Spring Nationals - 04/29/12 11:14 PM
he is good! Bucky when are you coming out?
Posted By: Canuck
Re: Spring Nationals - 04/30/12 12:12 AM
Great Job Joe!
Mark Howes
Mark Howes
Posted By: joe teuton
Re: Spring Nationals - 04/30/12 02:39 AM
Thx Buckey and mark it was a good weekend for hemi cars we had 2 out of the 6borders left with Me and Tim just go to national points and check out where I Tim Hebert is so he's best driver but hemi cars we can win tomorrow races.
Posted By: Spyphish
Westlake, La. - 05/03/12 04:20 AM
Worked on my Hemi all day in a town of 2500!!! Who cares, you don't like Idol Josh Ledet, you may be deaf!!!!!!!!!!!
What a great talent and story. Vote Josh
Hemi all day in a town of 2500!!! Who cares, you don't like Idol Josh Ledet, you may be deaf!!!!!!!!!!!What a great talent and story. Vote Josh
Posted By: Somerdale Flash
Re: Westlake, La. - 05/04/12 07:48 PM
Perkins went 8.43 159.91 at Atco today.
Then the Pollen delay. Looked like a Blizzard in the shutdown area when the wind was blowing.
Then the Pollen delay. Looked like a Blizzard in the shutdown area when the wind was blowing.
Posted By: Doug Walker
Re: Performance at Atco, New Jersey - 05/05/12 02:25 AM
Gary Wolkwitz also ran 8.43 seconds at 159.38 mph today at Atco. Around 12 noon.
Posted By: Spyphish
ATCO record runs - 05/05/12 06:20 PM
Quote:
Tyler's workin real Hard (pun intended) and Wolk's new car is the stuff I'd die for. Takes a lot to bring a new car up. But I'm sure Gary is up to the Challenger (another pun) But the Barton camp works really tough and are ready for the next level. It's why I've been a little guy there for 16 years. Wanna win? Talk to the Boss. Not talkin trash about anyone, They all are super players. But you only get what you pay for. HTH HJ
"The Boss" talked to one of my
crew this week. Where is this 8.12 165?????
Posted By: Somerdale Flash
Re: ATCO record runs - 05/05/12 09:37 PM
Atco today, The Red 70 Hemi Cuda in SS/DA went 9.25!
For those who have only seen pics of this car. Wait til you see it in person....WOW, what an incredible car.
For those who have only seen pics of this car. Wait til you see it in person....WOW, what an incredible car.
Posted By: Frito
Re: ATCO record runs - 05/06/12 01:09 AM
Johnny K I assume!!!
Posted By: Doug Walker
Re: ATCO record runs - 05/06/12 03:05 AM
Quote:
Johnny K I assume!!!
Yes indeed !
Posted By: warfish
Update - 05/14/12 12:43 PM
Got this project off the ground this weekend. With alot of help from my dad, Ian Hardaker, and Ray Paquet, we finally ground a cam. First shot and it came out perfect. (within .2 degrees of design). Now I have to put it on hold to get some other projects rolling.
cw
cw
Posted By: warfish
Re: Update - 05/14/12 12:43 PM
cam
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Southern Update - 05/16/12 11:39 PM
Thanks to Brad & Darin Morgan over at Reher Morrison. They just finished some upgrades and we will be testing soon. BUT it looks like I will not make my home town Westlake, La. pop 3000 famous with the Hemi.
American Idol top three Joshua Ledet from right up the road will be singing tonight for the finals. Watch at 7 CST as we had the race rig out at his parade this last Sat. He is better than good. Watch, enjoy and vote. Thank, Stephen
will not make my home town Westlake, La. pop 3000 famous with the Hemi.American Idol top three Joshua Ledet from right up the road will be singing tonight for the finals. Watch at 7 CST as we had the race rig out at his parade this last Sat. He is better than good. Watch, enjoy and vote. Thank, Stephen
Posted By: Frito
Re: Southern Update - 05/17/12 01:04 PM
Wow!! I didn't "IMAGINE" he was that good. I don't see anyone beating him. Now for Duck Dynasty and Uncle Si.
Posted By: maxie
Re: Southern Update - 05/17/12 05:28 PM
What is the low down on the 68 barracuda on racing junk. I think it said it was in Nashville Indiana owned by Warford.
Posted By: Frito
Re: Southern Update - 05/17/12 10:43 PM
You should know Randy Warford, owns the Super Cuda SS/AH. This is a second car he has although he will make a deal on either one. See me at Columbus this weekend for details.
Posted By: Spyphish
Topeka - 05/18/12 08:17 PM
The Gold Coast hemi got the gold. Congratulations to Dan Zrust on winning class. Must be the new intake!!! SLH
SLH
Posted By: jyrki
Re: Topeka - 05/21/12 07:55 PM
Congratulations to Timo Eronen for the first 8 sec SS/AH time in Europe!
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2012/FHRA/SonaxSpringNats/Sunday/MOP_2915.jpg
http://www.kuvia.1g.fi/kuvat/Tapahtumat+2012/FHRA/SonaxSpringNats/Sunday/MOP_2915.jpg
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Topeka - 05/22/12 12:45 PM
Congrats!Quite an accomplishment I'm sure!
Posted By: Spyphish
Mopar at the Grove - 05/31/12 02:57 AM
Hello boys & girls. There is a Shootout in a few days at the Grove, Pa. I can't make it but thanks to Brian/Tyler Hard, Wolk and Perkins for putting this deal together. I feel bad as Gary & Jim came to our D4 Chootout BUT I will make Indy & the Dutch. Go to Maple Grove Raceway and look at schedule for info and please go if you can. My pick is "I'll Have Another Barton car". Jim? Tyler? Wolk? Tueton?
PS Congrats to my friend Pancake who is foregoing the race to get married. (Has my Holt crew as well).
can't make it but thanks to Brian/Tyler Hard, Wolk and Perkins for putting this deal together. I feel bad as Gary & Jim came to our D4 Chootout BUT I will make Indy & the Dutch. Go to Maple Grove Raceway and look at schedule for info and please go if you can. My pick is "I'll Have Another Barton car". Jim? Tyler? Wolk? Tueton?PS Congrats to my friend Pancake who is foregoing the race to get married. (Has my Holt crew as well).
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 05/31/12 12:46 PM
Congrats to Jim,What a great guy!Bucky & Jeannie
Posted By: j oliverio
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 05/31/12 09:45 PM
Congratulations to one of the nicest people you will ever meet! Your freinds at The WV Hillbilly
Posted By: Spyphish
Young Guns - 06/01/12 09:56 PM
Congrats to Tyler Hard who won by a few feet over Steve Comella at Etown class final after they knocked off some big names. Lets see, their combined age is less thane mine. Good job guys. Do it again next week.
Good job guys. Do it again next week.
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Young Guns - 06/04/12 12:48 PM
Congrats to Tyler!
Posted By: BOSSHEMI
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/06/12 01:58 PM
Who's entered for the Shootout?
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/08/12 10:05 AM
I will be running Sat, just not there. Testing in Texas with R&M. Check out Reher Morrison Hemi Super Stock Dyno Pull on Youtube. Turn it up!! That's Brad Morgan giving "Thumper" a workout. Rings are overrated!
Grove should have top cars, Camos and Barton (Daniels, Hard, Wolk). I know Cake, myself and Comella are out. See ya'll at Indy if Grade 3 will get us in.
will be running Sat, just not there. Testing in Texas with R&M. Check out Reher Morrison Hemi Super Stock Dyno Pull on Youtube. Turn it up!! That's Brad Morgan giving "Thumper" a workout. Rings are overrated!Grove should have top cars, Camos and Barton (Daniels, Hard, Wolk). I know Cake, myself and Comella are out. See ya'll at Indy if Grade 3 will get us in.
Posted By: Canuck
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/08/12 04:54 PM
Wish I was there this weekend.
Looks like a good venue to race SS/AH
Have fun guys!
Mark Howes
Looks like a good venue to race SS/AH
Have fun guys!
Mark Howes
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/09/12 12:39 AM
Dyno needs to run over there. Congrats on 8 second club!!!!!
Posted By: Discoquik
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/20/12 08:21 PM
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Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/20/12 08:22 PM
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Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/20/12 08:26 PM
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Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/20/12 08:28 PM
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Posted By: Dyno1
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/21/12 01:56 AM
Who is making them?
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/22/12 12:17 PM
I believe that Diamond is making billet pistons. I saw one on display at Ennis a couple of years ago. It was pretty light for a Hemi piston.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/22/12 01:21 PM
yeah,, ive been running billet,, and now inboard pin forged pistons from diamond for about 6 years now,,, its more about the design of the piston,, dimensions rather than the struts,, there are a few things "wrong" with the piston in the picture
an inboard pin piston from diamond after i lighten it is about 585-600 grams at a 10.250-10.300 deck height,, westcotts millers are 550-575
an inboard pin piston from diamond after i lighten it is about 585-600 grams at a 10.250-10.300 deck height,, westcotts millers are 550-575
Posted By: warfish
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/22/12 10:11 PM
Why dont you tell about your experience with Diamond, Dyno..and Jeff.
They look nice,
BME's win most of the races.
cw
They look nice,
BME's win most of the races.
cw
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 06/23/12 06:00 PM
I think I know where my last check for pistons went. Only buy the best! Dyno
Posted By: Discoquik
Re: Spring Nationals - 06/23/12 09:07 PM
The posted pics are "representative" of what can be done at Wiseco in billets. This particular part was a Xerox copy of a sample piece supplied by a very well known and respected Hemi builder. Current product won't be posted out of respect to the confidentiality our customers naturally expect.
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Spring Nationals - 06/23/12 11:25 PM
But the picture is of a forged piston... 
Posted By: Discoquik
Re: Spring Nationals - 06/25/12 09:15 PM
Quote:
But the picture is of a forged piston...
As the person behind our billet program, I beg to differ. There are tool marks as with any billet, we just choose to have the part look more like a forging in finished form. There are some steps done during machining and heat treat that alleviate the common billet raw look on our parts.
A boxed strutted Hemi piston is hard to forge reliably due to the fact that the "finger" length of the forge punch would be too long to withstand repeated use in manufacturing. You would be lucky to get five forgings out of one run before the punch broke. We manufacture and supply others piston forgings, besides machining pistons. We are one of two companies that make their own forgings and manufacture pistons under the same roof. Most others companies buy from us or APP. If a forging ocould be made reliably we would have done this already "as forged", rather than a billet. We have customers willing to buy tooling for this project.
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/02/12 11:33 PM
Quote:
there are a few things "wrong" with the piston in the picture
Don't be shy..........
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/03/12 12:37 AM
Gas ports
2nd land
Oil ring groove holes
Anti detonation grooves
2nd land
Oil ring groove holes
Anti detonation grooves
Posted By: Frito
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/03/12 01:24 AM
Good eye there slim!
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/03/12 02:32 AM
Quote:
Gas ports
2nd land
Oil ring groove holes
Anti detonation grooves
Can you elaborate?
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/03/12 02:41 AM
They are either done wrong or not current technology
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/11/12 12:52 AM
Quote:
They are either done wrong or not current technology
How quick did you go last year with the your Diamonds?
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/11/12 01:04 AM
i had cancer last year and put my motor together with an old block,, needless to say i didnt have much "free" time... the block had been sleeved many times and the ring seal sucks in it,, im changing the block now.. ive sold people pistons for comp, super stock small blocks and for hem is that have had sucess,, i have complete ring seal with my short blocks,, i need to update my head/manifold combo,, which im working on now...
how quick did you go last year in ss/ah?
how quick did you go last year in ss/ah?
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/11/12 11:50 AM
Hope your health is on the upswing, and your new block gets your motor sealed up. Was just curious how quick the Diamonds have been in AH. I don't have a SS/AH, and never will. Closest I ever got was a SS/BA Hemi build (LSM block/cam, a set of your heads I got from Nicopolis) back in 2004. Sold the stuff while it was still worth something in 2005 when the car owner backed out.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/11/12 02:10 PM
well the fastest pass in an ss/ah car last year with diamond pistons was a mid 8.30,, i think fastest for millers was the same
if one was looking to buy pistons,, though i think i can offer as good as anybody,, your best bet is to goto westcott,, there are many dimensions that go into making a piston that makes power and doesnt crack or scuff the crap out of the walls,, seems like most manufacturers dont know how to do that,, but working with a racer that has made changes to make their stuff live,, is your best bet
if one was looking to buy pistons,, though i think i can offer as good as anybody,, your best bet is to goto westcott,, there are many dimensions that go into making a piston that makes power and doesnt crack or scuff the crap out of the walls,, seems like most manufacturers dont know how to do that,, but working with a racer that has made changes to make their stuff live,, is your best bet
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/17/12 03:04 AM
How'd it go Spyphish?
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 07/17/12 01:13 PM
I am TOO old and it was way TOO hot. Done for the summer.
am TOO old and it was way TOO hot. Done for the summer.
Posted By: Dyno1
Sonoma S/S Final - 07/29/12 10:58 PM
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
720 Dave Raybourn 7511 Ted Seipel
E4 ****WINNER**** 0.001 8.596 150.20 0.023 11.171 119.64
SS/AH Dial: 8.59 (+/-): 0.006 SS/KA Dial: 11.13 (+/-): 0.041
Prior rounds:
E3 (B Cunningham) -0.118 12.721 4.131 (M Faul ) 0.013 11.188 -0.012
E2 (D Keen ) 0.065 8.582 0.022 (B Lippstreu ) 0.071 11.181 0.031
E1 (D Paz ) 0.295 8.696 0.176 (L Norton ) 0.037 11.209 0.029
Qualified: #14 8.579 -0.721 #34 11.132 -0.118
Dave Raybourn's MOV: 0.0571 seconds (approximately 10 feet). Dave Raybourn's package: 0.007 for the win. Raybourn will get the bye into the final.
Hemi in the final. Go Dave!
720 Dave Raybourn 7511 Ted Seipel
E4 ****WINNER**** 0.001 8.596 150.20 0.023 11.171 119.64
SS/AH Dial: 8.59 (+/-): 0.006 SS/KA Dial: 11.13 (+/-): 0.041
Prior rounds:
E3 (B Cunningham) -0.118 12.721 4.131 (M Faul ) 0.013 11.188 -0.012
E2 (D Keen ) 0.065 8.582 0.022 (B Lippstreu ) 0.071 11.181 0.031
E1 (D Paz ) 0.295 8.696 0.176 (L Norton ) 0.037 11.209 0.029
Qualified: #14 8.579 -0.721 #34 11.132 -0.118
Dave Raybourn's MOV: 0.0571 seconds (approximately 10 feet). Dave Raybourn's package: 0.007 for the win. Raybourn will get the bye into the final.
Hemi in the final. Go Dave!
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Sonoma S/S Final - 07/30/12 03:20 AM
Great job Dave! Made me proud in West Virginia!So close.You and lil Joe are tough!
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: Sonoma S/S Final - 07/31/12 07:19 PM
Great job to Dave it was cool to see him having fun. That was the most fun I have had with a Hemi car, awesome weekend!
Posted By: Frito
Re: Sonoma S/S Final - 08/01/12 01:43 PM
Erik, congrats on a great weekend. I had two phone calls yesterday asking about Dave's engine builder. Now if you can talk him into making Indy!!!!
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Sonoma S/S Final - 08/01/12 07:57 PM
Congrats on the Runner Up in Sonoma Dave. Great guy and very happy to see him getting to the final. just wish I could have been there to see it in person.
Posted By: Doug Walker
Re: Sonoma S/S Final - 08/02/12 02:43 AM
Quote:
Erik, congrats on a great weekend. I had two phone calls yesterday asking about Dave's engine builder. Now if you can talk him into making Indy!!!!
Erik's photo has been on www.hemishootout.net. Here is a file photo I have of
him from the Mopars at the Strip event in April 2012.
Erik Jones
Jones Engine Development
Lancaster, California
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 08/02/12 10:31 AM
Quote:
well the fastest pass in an ss/ah car last year with diamond pistons was a mid 8.30,, i think fastest for millers was the same
if one was looking to buy pistons,, though i think i can offer as good as anybody,, your best bet is to goto westcott,, there are many dimensions that go into making a piston that makes power and doesnt crack or scuff the crap out of the walls,, seems like most manufacturers dont know how to do that,, but working with a racer that has made changes to make their stuff live,, is your best bet
Thanks for the thoughts, my pistons will be coming from the same place as those pictured. When will you have your new bullet up and running?
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 08/02/12 10:34 AM
Quote:
I
Come on now, I saw you sweating it out last year at Indy, you coming this year?
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 08/02/12 02:08 PM
Quote:Quote:
I
Come on now, I saw you sweating it out last year at Indy, you coming this year?
Depends on Frito's poem and if I
get enough votes.
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 08/02/12 05:31 PM
17 SS/AH cars at Indy so far. It would be fun to see everyone. Dyno
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: Mopar at the Grove - 08/02/12 09:54 PM
Im trying
Posted By: meanfish
Re: Sonoma S/S Final - 08/06/12 02:26 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys. has anyone heard if there is going to be a shootout at Indy this year or is it going to be normal class?
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Sonoma S/S Final - 08/06/12 02:41 PM
its a shootout,, i heard same money as last year though they are spreading it out,, paying less to win,, then paying runner up and semi's
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/06/12 06:24 PM
Ya' reckon they got tired of puttin' the Charlies in another tax bracket????
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/07/12 02:06 PM
Auburn Hills, Mich. — The 2012 Mopar® HEMI® Challenge will take to the track for the 12th consecutive year during the Mac Tools U.S. Nationals at Lucas Oil Raceway at Indianapolis, Aug. 30–31. For the second straight year, $15,000 will go to the winner of the Mopar HEMI Challenge, which pairs Mopar-powered Super Stock/A-HEMI (SS/AH) competitors against each other in a high-stakes quarter-mile showdown.
The Mopar HEMI Challenge began as a one-race shootout at the 2001 Mac Tools U.S. Nationals, and returned to that format last year, after a number of seasons as a multi-event mini-series. The race features 1968 Dodge Darts and Plymouth Barracudas — the classic package cars that helped build the Mopar brand’s impressive reputation at the drag strip — engaged in quarter-mile battles.
“The Mopar HEMI Challenge continues to grow and build momentum each year,” said Pietro Gorlier, President and CEO of Mopar, Chrysler Group LLC’s service, parts and customer-care brand. “The NHRA Sportsman drag racers that compete in the Mopar HEMI Challenge are the backbone of the sport, and have a passion for the Mopar brand that they carry with them wherever they go. The Mopar HEMI Challenge is a great way to recognize their passion and dedication to the brand and the sport."
“We are excited to have the Mopar HEMI Challenge event return as part of the tradition-rich Mac Tools U.S. Nationals,” said Eric Lotz, director of field marketing, NHRA. “It has become an important part of the event and a must-see for all sportsman racing enthusiasts.”
Mopar HEMI Challenge qualifying is set for Thursday, Aug. 30, with eliminations scheduled for Friday, Aug. 31. The Mopar HEMI Challenge final round will take place during Funny Car and Top Fuel qualifying rounds on Friday. Along with the $15,000 winner’s purse, $1,500 will be awarded to the runner-up, with $500 going to both the third and fourth-place finishers. The No. 1 Qualifier during the Mopar HEMI Challenge will also take home $500.
The Mopar HEMI Challenge began as a one-race shootout at the 2001 Mac Tools U.S. Nationals, and returned to that format last year, after a number of seasons as a multi-event mini-series. The race features 1968 Dodge Darts and Plymouth Barracudas — the classic package cars that helped build the Mopar brand’s impressive reputation at the drag strip — engaged in quarter-mile battles.
“The Mopar HEMI Challenge continues to grow and build momentum each year,” said Pietro Gorlier, President and CEO of Mopar, Chrysler Group LLC’s service, parts and customer-care brand. “The NHRA Sportsman drag racers that compete in the Mopar HEMI Challenge are the backbone of the sport, and have a passion for the Mopar brand that they carry with them wherever they go. The Mopar HEMI Challenge is a great way to recognize their passion and dedication to the brand and the sport."
“We are excited to have the Mopar HEMI Challenge event return as part of the tradition-rich Mac Tools U.S. Nationals,” said Eric Lotz, director of field marketing, NHRA. “It has become an important part of the event and a must-see for all sportsman racing enthusiasts.”
Mopar HEMI Challenge qualifying is set for Thursday, Aug. 30, with eliminations scheduled for Friday, Aug. 31. The Mopar HEMI Challenge final round will take place during Funny Car and Top Fuel qualifying rounds on Friday. Along with the $15,000 winner’s purse, $1,500 will be awarded to the runner-up, with $500 going to both the third and fourth-place finishers. The No. 1 Qualifier during the Mopar HEMI Challenge will also take home $500.
Posted By: warfish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/08/12 01:42 PM
I wonder how much NHRA charges Mopar for bringing probably 1000 people to the race that normally wouldnt be there?
cw
cw
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/08/12 02:34 PM
so what youre sayin,,,, is 1000 people show up to see you????? haha,, just kidding,, maybe... 
back to work....
back to work....
Posted By: island hemi
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/08/12 05:08 PM
26 AH cars so far entered for Indy
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/08/12 08:57 PM
Quote:
I wonder how much NHRA charges Mopar for bringing probably 1000 people to the race that normally wouldnt be there?
cw
10%
I
had a fan! Who has the other 999????
Posted By: Defbob
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/11/12 02:30 PM
Me 
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/12/12 08:29 PM
Hey Bucky, whats going on with the "Line" engine. I was hoping to see you guys at Indy.
Posted By: gmoore
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/12/12 10:26 PM
hey jeff, u going to indy? more the merrier.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/12/12 10:30 PM
im trying,,,,,,, assembling motor now... changed block,, and updated heads
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/13/12 04:11 AM
Motor has been done makes good power working on other parts of car to make hook. I need to go down to test but I am covered up trying to get original Red Light Bandit 1970 pro stock restoration done.I promised it to be done to debut at Indy,so it will be tough.My fingers are crossed .I'm trying.
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/13/12 12:31 PM
Quote:
Motor has been done makes good power working on other parts of car to make hook. I need to go down to test but I am covered up trying to get original Red Light Bandit 1970 pro stock restoration done.I promised it to be done to debut at Indy,so it will be tough.My fingers are crossed .I'm trying.
Sounds good. Look forward to seeing you guys there.
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/13/12 04:07 PM
Any of the big dogs cracked the 1100 HP level yet? I figure they must be over 1000 HP.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/13/12 07:03 PM
i cant speak for charlie directly,, but i dont think he has broke 1000... i know ray has,, but dynos are just tools,, you just need more on them whatever you make
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/13/12 11:42 PM
R&M numbers are classified BUT we won't be last. Looks like a great field shaping up but we need Baughman, Hess, Moore, Rains, Jeff, Kraft etc etc.
Enjoy it while it last as the SuperCar "Race on Sunday; Sell on Monday" are here!!!!
classified BUT we won't be last. Looks like a great field shaping up but we need Baughman, Hess, Moore, Rains, Jeff, Kraft etc etc. Enjoy it while it last as the SuperCar "Race on Sunday; Sell on Monday" are here!!!!
Posted By: gmoore
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/14/12 01:52 AM
stephen, thanks for thinking of us. we are entered under kyle's name. working on block assembly as we speak.hope we have a 32 car field.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/14/12 02:34 AM
hey stephen,, those duck dynasty guys relatives of youre???? youre all from louisana..... arent you guys all cousins somehow down there?? si kinda reminds me of you :-)
Posted By: Adrielp
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/14/12 04:36 AM
So how close do you guys think the field will be this year. I'm hoping that the top 16 are within 2 tenths of each other and that we get less red lights. Would love to see some good close racing on the run sheets.
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/14/12 04:47 AM
Quote:
hey stephen,, those duck dynasty guys relatives of youre???? youre all from louisana..... arent you guys all cousins somehow down there?? si kinda reminds me of you :-)
Yep! All kin. Duck guys; Gator guys; Noodle guys; Whatever guys; and HEMI guys. All kin!!! Si may be my two tenths shoe CWJ said I
needed. He plans on lifting just right to get CWJ in first round.PS Sean Payton is my new crew as he is available this year. HemiBountyGate.......... STAY AWAY
Posted By: Bill Kraft
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/15/12 12:35 AM
Hey guys, we're still broken. Someone should have told me that my Roush motor would last only 3 passes. Anyway I went out and had FJ build a stocker chassis for me. 10.90's at 122, and get this... no valve adjustments... well that just doesn't cut it compared to SS/AH.
Will be at Indy to assist Wendell. See you there.
Will be at Indy to assist Wendell. See you there.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 12:15 AM
138 SS/AH Wendell Howes Rathesay NB '68 Barracuda Dodg 426 HOWES RACING
148 SS/AH Larry Perkins Sr Collegeville PA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 148
303 SS/AH Gary Jacob Shelby Township MI '68 Dart Dodg 426 JAKES AUTOMOTIVE /MCH
335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski Macomb Township MI '68 Dodge Dodg 426 MODERN CYL HEAD
350 SS/AH Jim Pancake Cardington OH '68 Dart Dodg 426 CARRIAGE TOWNE CDJ INC.
364 SS/AH Tony De Pillo Dayton OH '68 Plymouth Plym 426 HONKIN HEMI
412 SS/AH Kyle Ratcliff Denton TX '68 Plymouth Plym 426 PETE'S SON
452 SS/AH Steven Kent Lottie LA '69 Barracuda Chry 426 KENT SERVICES & TRUCKING
720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn Modesto CA '68 Dart Dodg 426 JONES ENG. DEV. TCB INDUSTRI
721 SS/AH Rick Houser Pasadena CA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 WAYNE BROOKS
100H SS/AH Tyler Hard Harrisburg PA '68 Barracuda MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1428 SS/AH Gus Mantas Toronto ON '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MANTAS/VORTECH
1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels Bristol PA '68 Dart MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE/RAY BARTON RACING
1969 SS/AH Stephen Comella Webster NY '68 Dodge Dodg 426 ISLAND HEMI
1990 SS/AH David Barton Robesonia PA '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE/RAY BARTON RACING
3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Parma MI '68 Barracuda HD 426 JACKSON DRYWALL
3410 SS/AH Randall Warford Nashville IN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WARFORD MOTORSPORTS
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Ford 426 WAR FISH
403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert Westlake LA '68 Plymouth Rehr 426 REHER MORRISON/HOLT RACE CAR
4222 SS/AH Fred Henson Madisonville TX '68 Dart Dodg 426 HENSON FAMILY DEALERSHIP
4300 GT/GA Lloyd Wofford Jr Jonesboro AR '78 Volare Dodg 360 ENGINES INC/ JONESBORO
4420 SS/AH Tim Hebert Thibodaux LA '68 Barracuda Hemi 426 SOUTHLAND FLYER/HEBERT BROS
4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton III Schriever LA '68 Plymouth Plym 426 SOUTHLAND TRUCK GROUP
499Z SS/AH Joseph Paillot III New Orleans LA '68 Dodge MOPR 426 PAILLOT BROTHERS RACING
5529 SS/AH Russ Campbell Springfield MO '68 Barracuda MOPR 426 MISSOURI MULE
5583 SS/AH Dan Zrust Maple Grove MN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 TOTAL ENGINE /STEVENS RACE
6027 SS/AH Mike Booker Davenport WA '68 Barracuda MOPR 426 MIKES AUTO
bucky?????? where are ya buddy??????
hear warford is entering the car and just parking it to try to sell.... not racing it,,, lloyd warford will switch his entry, james caro is finishing the motor,,, have 28 on th elist,, 27 racing,, tim hebert usually doesnt show,, cause this is a busy time of year for him,, so anybody who knows him,, pressure him to actually go,, it would be nice to have him there,, one of the nicest people around
mentioned to lil joe to get big joe as the "grand master" guy for the race representing the hemi cars,, he is due,, has been in hemi car world since the beginning of recorded time,, jerry caro,, and jim hale would be also good canidates....
148 SS/AH Larry Perkins Sr Collegeville PA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 148
303 SS/AH Gary Jacob Shelby Township MI '68 Dart Dodg 426 JAKES AUTOMOTIVE /MCH
335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski Macomb Township MI '68 Dodge Dodg 426 MODERN CYL HEAD
350 SS/AH Jim Pancake Cardington OH '68 Dart Dodg 426 CARRIAGE TOWNE CDJ INC.
364 SS/AH Tony De Pillo Dayton OH '68 Plymouth Plym 426 HONKIN HEMI
412 SS/AH Kyle Ratcliff Denton TX '68 Plymouth Plym 426 PETE'S SON
452 SS/AH Steven Kent Lottie LA '69 Barracuda Chry 426 KENT SERVICES & TRUCKING
720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn Modesto CA '68 Dart Dodg 426 JONES ENG. DEV. TCB INDUSTRI
721 SS/AH Rick Houser Pasadena CA '68 Barracuda Chry 426 WAYNE BROOKS
100H SS/AH Tyler Hard Harrisburg PA '68 Barracuda MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1428 SS/AH Gus Mantas Toronto ON '68 Barracuda Plym 426 MANTAS/VORTECH
1517 SS/AH Melvin Daniels Bristol PA '68 Dart MOPR 426 RAY BARTON RACING ENGINES
1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz Annandale NJ '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE/RAY BARTON RACING
1969 SS/AH Stephen Comella Webster NY '68 Dodge Dodg 426 ISLAND HEMI
1990 SS/AH David Barton Robesonia PA '68 Dodge Dodg 426 EARTHQUAKE/RAY BARTON RACING
3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Parma MI '68 Barracuda HD 426 JACKSON DRYWALL
3410 SS/AH Randall Warford Nashville IN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 WARFORD MOTORSPORTS
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Ford 426 WAR FISH
403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert Westlake LA '68 Plymouth Rehr 426 REHER MORRISON/HOLT RACE CAR
4222 SS/AH Fred Henson Madisonville TX '68 Dart Dodg 426 HENSON FAMILY DEALERSHIP
4300 GT/GA Lloyd Wofford Jr Jonesboro AR '78 Volare Dodg 360 ENGINES INC/ JONESBORO
4420 SS/AH Tim Hebert Thibodaux LA '68 Barracuda Hemi 426 SOUTHLAND FLYER/HEBERT BROS
4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton III Schriever LA '68 Plymouth Plym 426 SOUTHLAND TRUCK GROUP
499Z SS/AH Joseph Paillot III New Orleans LA '68 Dodge MOPR 426 PAILLOT BROTHERS RACING
5529 SS/AH Russ Campbell Springfield MO '68 Barracuda MOPR 426 MISSOURI MULE
5583 SS/AH Dan Zrust Maple Grove MN '68 Barracuda Plym 426 TOTAL ENGINE /STEVENS RACE
6027 SS/AH Mike Booker Davenport WA '68 Barracuda MOPR 426 MIKES AUTO
bucky?????? where are ya buddy??????
hear warford is entering the car and just parking it to try to sell.... not racing it,,, lloyd warford will switch his entry, james caro is finishing the motor,,, have 28 on th elist,, 27 racing,, tim hebert usually doesnt show,, cause this is a busy time of year for him,, so anybody who knows him,, pressure him to actually go,, it would be nice to have him there,, one of the nicest people around
mentioned to lil joe to get big joe as the "grand master" guy for the race representing the hemi cars,, he is due,, has been in hemi car world since the beginning of recorded time,, jerry caro,, and jim hale would be also good canidates....
Posted By: wldtm
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 02:42 AM
What car is Depillo campaigning? Glad to see him in AH car from the area!
Posted By: PC-CHARGER
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 03:55 AM
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Ford 426 WAR FISH
Ford?????
Ford?????
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 04:06 AM
Yes he has a Ford. I have a Chevy. Lets see what happens???
have a Chevy. Lets see what happens???
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 12:46 PM
Still trying to get this Red light bandit done so i gan go testing the rlb is suppose to lead the ss/ah parade
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 04:24 PM
Quote:
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Ford 426 WAR FISH
Ford?????
Yeah, old Chuckles has an odd sense of humor. I've seen him list it as a Jeep, Cad and now Ford. So far he's stuck with domestic brands, but I figure FIAT will be next.
Posted By: Dave Watt
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 04:31 PM
Friday at the U.S. Nationals is the best day of the weekend. We're looking forward to seeing the AH shootout.
Posted By: Troublemaker427
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/16/12 05:37 PM
Quote:Quote:
3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr Parma MI '68 Barracuda Ford 426 WAR FISH
Ford?????
Yeah, old Chuckles has an odd sense of humor. I've seen him list it as a Jeep, Cad and now Ford. So far he's stuck with domestic brands, but I figure FIAT will be next.
Charlie WAS testing a Ford last night, that's a fact....
Posted By: BOSSHEMI
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/17/12 10:20 PM
Jody,
Was it a new Cobra Jet car?
Was it a new Cobra Jet car?
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/17/12 10:21 PM
Quote:
Jody,
Was it a new Cobra Jet car?
No he was testing Rays P. thunderbolt.
Posted By: SS #7068
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/18/12 09:05 AM
What's the status of Don Bales? Hope he is still competing. Great competitor and a all round nice guy and family.
Also a consideration for "grand master" should be Harry Holton. Has won many SS hemi class races, including the hemi shootout at indy, as both a driver and engine builder.
Also a consideration for "grand master" should be Harry Holton. Has won many SS hemi class races, including the hemi shootout at indy, as both a driver and engine builder.
Posted By: Spyphish
Frito's Poem?? - 08/19/12 05:31 PM
About that time!!!
Here's mine: Charlie & Missy can honeymoon at Niagara
if he can beat R&M's VALV-AGRA
Here's mine: Charlie & Missy can honeymoon at Niagara
if he can beat R&M's VALV-AGRA
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: Frito's Poem?? - 08/19/12 06:39 PM
R&M's hemi is fast, and certainly spendy.
But definately worth it, if it beats Charlie at Indy.
But definately worth it, if it beats Charlie at Indy.
Posted By: Frito
Re: Frito's Poem?? - 08/20/12 01:40 PM
No lines of prose will ever take their place,
Mel Warford & Bill Bales, will be missed at this race. RIP!
Camo car's in the trailer, could the Warfish be bored?
Bayou intel saw him testing, in a Ford!
Sr's drinkin coffee and has an apple for lunch,
but for Storm Tropper power, he's got a bunch.
Running hot was a problem for Missouri Mule,
With Joey D & wife Sue, he should keep his cool.
New paint & driver for the car from Sanibel,
By way of New York, could raise some hell.
He's ran the most races this year of any AH in the place,
Gold Coast Hemi will be there with a smile on Dan's face.
They come ready to play from the North West,
Mike & Tammy Booker will be ready for the test.
Big Jim's been savin up to make a statement this year,
The Carriage Towne entry will make music to the ear.
Tony D's workin hard to get his car together,
New chassis finally done, should make the Honkin Hemi better.
TH will work HARD so as not to look at the sky,
But if it does go up, as a driver he's the guy.
Hardest workin crew around is the car from Jenkins,
Mario,Charlie & Mike keep the Perkins family peakin.
Just heard from the boys in Robesonia, there's a new Earthquake car,
Looks like Gary Wolkwitz is going to raise the bar.
He's always fast and with a smile on his face. (Maybe not after last years race aganist David)
This may be the year it's Jim D & sons race.
It's been 5 long years since we have seen Jake68,
When the green Dart shows, it'll worth the wait.
The MCH boys are always intent on winning,
But even an outing like Maple Grove will have them grinning.
Brad and Darin workin hard with VALV-AGRA on the dyno this year,
Spyphish will have something for the field when he hits 4th gear.
He'll be workin on customers stuff right up untill the last day,
But come Friday, David Barton and an Earthquake will be ready to play.
Hope ISAAC doesn't affect the NOLA boys a lot,
Sure would like to see the car of the bros. Paillot.
You'll know when the Challenge is called and what time,
Big Joe Tueton will be standing on the starting line.
Lil' Joe fresh off a big "WIN" at Maple Grove,
When the big orange truck pulls in, they unlaod in droves.
With a litle extra power from Ray,
Tueton & Hebert will be ready to play.
Tim Hebert almost won in Texas a few weeks ago,
His driving skills could make this one his "Big Go".
If the Militia power fires like a mauser,
We could see some rounds for Brooks and Houser.
I hope to see the flamed Dart all the way from Modesto,
Dave and Erik working hard to make it go.
He was workin hard to come and really came close,
Maybe next year we'll see Wayne Ramose.
With the entry list now hitting on 28,
You gotta see it this year, don't be late.
To be edited and continued.
Mel Warford & Bill Bales, will be missed at this race. RIP!
Camo car's in the trailer, could the Warfish be bored?
Bayou intel saw him testing, in a Ford!
Sr's drinkin coffee and has an apple for lunch,
but for Storm Tropper power, he's got a bunch.
Running hot was a problem for Missouri Mule,
With Joey D & wife Sue, he should keep his cool.
New paint & driver for the car from Sanibel,
By way of New York, could raise some hell.
He's ran the most races this year of any AH in the place,
Gold Coast Hemi will be there with a smile on Dan's face.
They come ready to play from the North West,
Mike & Tammy Booker will be ready for the test.
Big Jim's been savin up to make a statement this year,
The Carriage Towne entry will make music to the ear.
Tony D's workin hard to get his car together,
New chassis finally done, should make the Honkin Hemi better.
TH will work HARD so as not to look at the sky,
But if it does go up, as a driver he's the guy.
Hardest workin crew around is the car from Jenkins,
Mario,Charlie & Mike keep the Perkins family peakin.
Just heard from the boys in Robesonia, there's a new Earthquake car,
Looks like Gary Wolkwitz is going to raise the bar.
He's always fast and with a smile on his face. (Maybe not after last years race aganist David)
This may be the year it's Jim D & sons race.
It's been 5 long years since we have seen Jake68,
When the green Dart shows, it'll worth the wait.
The MCH boys are always intent on winning,
But even an outing like Maple Grove will have them grinning.
Brad and Darin workin hard with VALV-AGRA on the dyno this year,
Spyphish will have something for the field when he hits 4th gear.
He'll be workin on customers stuff right up untill the last day,
But come Friday, David Barton and an Earthquake will be ready to play.
Hope ISAAC doesn't affect the NOLA boys a lot,
Sure would like to see the car of the bros. Paillot.
You'll know when the Challenge is called and what time,
Big Joe Tueton will be standing on the starting line.
Lil' Joe fresh off a big "WIN" at Maple Grove,
When the big orange truck pulls in, they unlaod in droves.
With a litle extra power from Ray,
Tueton & Hebert will be ready to play.
Tim Hebert almost won in Texas a few weeks ago,
His driving skills could make this one his "Big Go".
If the Militia power fires like a mauser,
We could see some rounds for Brooks and Houser.
I hope to see the flamed Dart all the way from Modesto,
Dave and Erik working hard to make it go.
He was workin hard to come and really came close,
Maybe next year we'll see Wayne Ramose.
With the entry list now hitting on 28,
You gotta see it this year, don't be late.
To be edited and continued.
Posted By: island hemi
Re: Frito's Poem?? - 08/20/12 04:26 PM
Where's Bob the Bookie?
Posted By: mr_340
WC Article - 08/21/12 03:33 PM
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: WC Article - 08/21/12 05:18 PM
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Posted By: Spyphish
ISAAC - 08/23/12 10:08 PM
That's about right!! 1000HP and can't show it off. ISAAC gets in the Gulf and us and the Paillots probably out.... Will make a call Sat.
and the Paillots probably out.... Will make a call Sat.
Posted By: warfish
Re: ISAAC - 08/24/12 06:16 PM
1000hp? is that both motors added together?
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: ISAAC - 08/24/12 06:50 PM
thats the charlie i remember
Posted By: warfish
Re: ISAAC - 08/25/12 12:40 PM
Thought maybe he turned it into a tractor puller so he could run both of them at the same time.
cw
cw
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: ISAAC - 08/25/12 01:02 PM
That's a good idea!! Bring me six to Indy.
six to Indy.
Posted By: Hutch20
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/25/12 10:03 PM
Posted By: Spyphish
Stacked!!!! - 08/26/12 11:08 PM
Meant something different in Jr. High!!!! In line, #82 Dyno # 44 Warford #99. Paillots may be out as storm heading to NOLA.
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/30/12 12:21 AM
SS/AH at INDY after Round 2:
53. Charlie Westcott Jr. SS/AH 9.30 8.472 -0.828
64. Jim Daniels SS/AH 9.30 8.490 -0.810
65. Rick Houser SS/AH 9.30 8.491 -0.809
84. Charlie Westcott SS/AH 9.30 8.542 -0.758
88. Jim Pancake SS/AH 9.30 8.550 -0.750
111. Steve Comella SS/AH 9.30 8.601 -0.699
112. Joe Teuton SS/AH 9.30 8.602 -0.698
114. David Barton SS/AH 9.30 8.606 -0.694
116. Larry Perkins SS/AH 9.30 8.612 -0.688
124. Lloyd Wofford SS/AH 9.30 8.635 -0.665
--------- Not Qualified ---------
129. Dave Raybourn SS/AH 9.30 8.671 -0.629
133. Fred Henson SS/AH 9.30 8.690 -0.610
143. Russ Campbell SS/AH 9.30 8.765 -0.535
145. Stephen Hebert SS/AH 9.30 8.789 -0.511
146. Wendell Howes SS/AH 9.30 8.792 -0.508
147. Gus Manyos SS/AH 9.30 8.794 -0.506
152. Steven Kent SS/AH 9.30 8.859 -0.441
155. Tony DePillo SS/AH 9.30 8.934 -0.366
156. Jeffrey Kobylski SS/AH 9.30 8.942 -0.358
159. Dan Zrust SS/AH 9.30 9.182 -0.118
160. Gary Jacob SS/AH 9.30 9.573 0.273
161. Tyler Hard SS/AH 9.30 12.962 3.662
162. Gary Wolkwitz SS/AH 9.30 13.288 3.988
53. Charlie Westcott Jr. SS/AH 9.30 8.472 -0.828
64. Jim Daniels SS/AH 9.30 8.490 -0.810
65. Rick Houser SS/AH 9.30 8.491 -0.809
84. Charlie Westcott SS/AH 9.30 8.542 -0.758
88. Jim Pancake SS/AH 9.30 8.550 -0.750
111. Steve Comella SS/AH 9.30 8.601 -0.699
112. Joe Teuton SS/AH 9.30 8.602 -0.698
114. David Barton SS/AH 9.30 8.606 -0.694
116. Larry Perkins SS/AH 9.30 8.612 -0.688
124. Lloyd Wofford SS/AH 9.30 8.635 -0.665
--------- Not Qualified ---------
129. Dave Raybourn SS/AH 9.30 8.671 -0.629
133. Fred Henson SS/AH 9.30 8.690 -0.610
143. Russ Campbell SS/AH 9.30 8.765 -0.535
145. Stephen Hebert SS/AH 9.30 8.789 -0.511
146. Wendell Howes SS/AH 9.30 8.792 -0.508
147. Gus Manyos SS/AH 9.30 8.794 -0.506
152. Steven Kent SS/AH 9.30 8.859 -0.441
155. Tony DePillo SS/AH 9.30 8.934 -0.366
156. Jeffrey Kobylski SS/AH 9.30 8.942 -0.358
159. Dan Zrust SS/AH 9.30 9.182 -0.118
160. Gary Jacob SS/AH 9.30 9.573 0.273
161. Tyler Hard SS/AH 9.30 12.962 3.662
162. Gary Wolkwitz SS/AH 9.30 13.288 3.988
Posted By: YYZ
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/30/12 10:18 PM
Any updates for today?
Posted By: 68shifter
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/30/12 10:53 PM
CWJ went .38 in round three. Pretty hot out today. In midst of round 4 now.
Both Campbell and DePillo spun real hard in round 4 in the right lane, Mantus might have broke something?
Both Campbell and DePillo spun real hard in round 4 in the right lane, Mantus might have broke something?
Posted By: 70AARcuda
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/31/12 12:59 AM
final qualifying results
1 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barra 8.386 9.30 -0.914
2 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.458 9.30 -0.842
3 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.488 9.30 -0.812
4 721 SS/AH Rick Houser, Pasadena CA, '68 Barracuda 8.491 9.30 -0.809
5 138 SS/AH Wendell Howes, Rothesay NB, '68 Barracuda 8.510 9.30 -0.790
6 100H SS/AH Tyler Hard, Harrisburg PA, '68 Barracuda 8.533 9.30 -0.767
7 1990 SS/AH David Barton, Robesonia PA, '68 Dart 8.545 9.30 -0.755
8 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.550 9.30 -0.750
9 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton, Schriever LA, '68 Barracuda 8.578 9.30 -0.722
10 148 SS/AH Larry Perkins, Collegeville PA, '68 Barra 8.582 9.30 -0.718
11 1969 SS/AH Steve Comella, Webster NY, '68 Dart 8.593 9.30 -0.707
12 5529 SS/AH Russ Campbell, Springfield MO, '68 Barrac 8.622 9.30 -0.678
13 4300 SS/AH Lloyd Wofford, Jonesboro AR, '68 Barracuda 8.635 9.30 -0.665
14 1428 SS/AH Gus Manyos, Toronto ON, '68 Barracuda 8.649 9.30 -0.651
15 720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn, Modesto CA, '68 Dart 8.671 9.30 -0.629
16 4222 SS/AH Fred Henson, Madisonville TX, '68 Dart 8.690 9.30 -0.610
17 403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert, Westlake LA, '68 Barracuda 8.719 9.30 -0.581
18 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz, Annandale NJ, '68 Dart 8.721 9.30 -0.579
19 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski, Macomb Twp MI, '68 Dart 8.848 9.30 -0.452
20 452 SS/AH Steven Kent, Lottie LA, '69 Barracuda 8.859 9.30 -0.441
21 364 SS/AH Tony DePillo, Dayton OH, '68 Barracuda 8.889 9.30 -0.411
22 5583 SS/AH Dan Zrust, Maple Grove MN, '68 Barracuda 9.011 9.30 -0.289
23 303 SS/AH Gary Jacob, Shelby Twp MI, '68 Dart 9.234 9.30 -0.066
1 3651 SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr., Parma MI, '68 Barra 8.386 9.30 -0.914
2 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.458 9.30 -0.842
3 3036 SS/AH Charlie Westcott, Parma MI, '68 Barracuda 8.488 9.30 -0.812
4 721 SS/AH Rick Houser, Pasadena CA, '68 Barracuda 8.491 9.30 -0.809
5 138 SS/AH Wendell Howes, Rothesay NB, '68 Barracuda 8.510 9.30 -0.790
6 100H SS/AH Tyler Hard, Harrisburg PA, '68 Barracuda 8.533 9.30 -0.767
7 1990 SS/AH David Barton, Robesonia PA, '68 Dart 8.545 9.30 -0.755
8 350 SS/AH Jim Pancake, Delaware OH, '68 Dart 8.550 9.30 -0.750
9 4426 SS/AH Joe Teuton, Schriever LA, '68 Barracuda 8.578 9.30 -0.722
10 148 SS/AH Larry Perkins, Collegeville PA, '68 Barra 8.582 9.30 -0.718
11 1969 SS/AH Steve Comella, Webster NY, '68 Dart 8.593 9.30 -0.707
12 5529 SS/AH Russ Campbell, Springfield MO, '68 Barrac 8.622 9.30 -0.678
13 4300 SS/AH Lloyd Wofford, Jonesboro AR, '68 Barracuda 8.635 9.30 -0.665
14 1428 SS/AH Gus Manyos, Toronto ON, '68 Barracuda 8.649 9.30 -0.651
15 720 SS/AH Dave Raybourn, Modesto CA, '68 Dart 8.671 9.30 -0.629
16 4222 SS/AH Fred Henson, Madisonville TX, '68 Dart 8.690 9.30 -0.610
17 403H SS/AH Stephen Hebert, Westlake LA, '68 Barracuda 8.719 9.30 -0.581
18 1945 SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz, Annandale NJ, '68 Dart 8.721 9.30 -0.579
19 335 SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski, Macomb Twp MI, '68 Dart 8.848 9.30 -0.452
20 452 SS/AH Steven Kent, Lottie LA, '69 Barracuda 8.859 9.30 -0.441
21 364 SS/AH Tony DePillo, Dayton OH, '68 Barracuda 8.889 9.30 -0.411
22 5583 SS/AH Dan Zrust, Maple Grove MN, '68 Barracuda 9.011 9.30 -0.289
23 303 SS/AH Gary Jacob, Shelby Twp MI, '68 Dart 9.234 9.30 -0.066
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 08/31/12 05:21 AM
We start early due to rain chance. 8:00ish. Just finished eating my crow.
La. recipe: Take a 3 pound crow, pluck it, gut it, wash it and saute' it for 8 hours with 3 pounds of steel wool. Throw out the crow and eat the steel wool. .38 in these conditions, are you kidding me???
Signed: Rusty teeth
crow.La. recipe: Take a 3 pound crow, pluck it, gut it, wash it and saute' it for 8 hours with 3 pounds of steel wool. Throw out the crow and eat the steel wool. .38 in these conditions, are you kidding me???
Signed: Rusty teeth
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: ISAAC - 08/31/12 05:32 AM
Quote:
thats thei remember
...back in the day that's how it would have read! Good luck to all the Shootout racers Friday!
Posted By: 68shifter
Hemi Challenge Results - 08/31/12 03:54 PM
Teuton 8.59 single
Daniels 8.47 single
Jacobs 9.11 sibgle
Perkins 8.58 win
DePillo 8.94
Zrust 9.07
Conella 8.60 win
Mantus 8.65 win
CW Sr 8.54
Hebert 8.90
Hard 8.55 win
Pancake 8.75 win
Jeff K 9.07
Hensin 8.73
Howes 8.57 win
Barton 8.60win
Gary W 9.10
Raybouen 8.71. Red light
Houser 9.80 w
cwj 8.49 lifting single
Daniels 8.47 single
Jacobs 9.11 sibgle
Perkins 8.58 win
DePillo 8.94
Zrust 9.07
Conella 8.60 win
Mantus 8.65 win
CW Sr 8.54
Hebert 8.90
Hard 8.55 win
Pancake 8.75 win
Jeff K 9.07
Hensin 8.73
Howes 8.57 win
Barton 8.60win
Gary W 9.10
Raybouen 8.71. Red light
Houser 9.80 w
cwj 8.49 lifting single
Posted By: 68shifter
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 08/31/12 06:15 PM
Round 2 Hemi Challenge
Pancake 8.69
Daniels 8.48 win
Barton 8.58
CW Jr 8.49 win
Interesting race if you were here to watch..lol
Comella 9.60
Howes 8.55 red light
Jacobs 9.08
Hard 8.47 win
Teuton 8.59
Manyos14.84 Hurt his motor at about 330' mark
Houser 8.54
Perkins no show.
Pretty good round of racing.
Hemishootout.net has a ladder as well as some pics.
Pancake 8.69
Daniels 8.48 win
Barton 8.58
CW Jr 8.49 win
Interesting race if you were here to watch..lol
Comella 9.60
Howes 8.55 red light
Jacobs 9.08
Hard 8.47 win
Teuton 8.59
Manyos14.84 Hurt his motor at about 330' mark
Houser 8.54
Perkins no show.
Pretty good round of racing.
Hemishootout.net has a ladder as well as some pics.
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 08/31/12 06:25 PM
From the NHRA results page:
"(W) Charlie Westcott Jr. (SS/AH '68 Barracuda) 0.102 8.498 158.91
(L) David Barton (SS/AH '68 Dart) 0.073 8.584 156.39
Westcott let Barton sit in pre-stage for a very long time before he joined the party. Charlie Westcott Jr.'s MOV: 0.0574 seconds (approximately 13 feet)."
Chuckles is a schmuck! Too bad he didn't get a redlight for playing games!
"(W) Charlie Westcott Jr. (SS/AH '68 Barracuda) 0.102 8.498 158.91
(L) David Barton (SS/AH '68 Dart) 0.073 8.584 156.39
Westcott let Barton sit in pre-stage for a very long time before he joined the party. Charlie Westcott Jr.'s MOV: 0.0574 seconds (approximately 13 feet)."
Chuckles is a schmuck! Too bad he didn't get a redlight for playing games!
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 08/31/12 07:05 PM
Quote:
From the NHRA results page:
"(W) Charlie Westcott Jr. (SS/AH '68 Barracuda) 0.102 8.498 158.91
(L) David Barton (SS/AH '68 Dart) 0.073 8.584 156.39
Westcott let Barton sit in pre-stage for a very long time before he joined the party. Charlie Westcott Jr.'s MOV: 0.0574 seconds (approximately 13 feet)."
Chuckles is a schmuck! Too bad he didn't get a redlight for playing games!
No rule saying how long you have to prestage the car. Barton could have played the game also. Wait long enough, and double bulb him...
Posted By: the truth
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 08/31/12 07:24 PM
The fastest car won.-- Boy Hebert should be depressed and embarrassed. Not much to show for all the mouth.
Posted By: 68shifter
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd3 - 08/31/12 08:03 PM
Round 3
Comella. 8.63
Daniels 8.49 win
Teuton 8.62
Hard 8.48 win
Houser 8.49 red light
CW Jr 8.44 win
I believe Daniels has the bye to the final.
It did appear CW had an issue with the car regarding the staging issue. Doors were open and people running around....but I'm 800ft away so.
Comella. 8.63
Daniels 8.49 win
Teuton 8.62
Hard 8.48 win
Houser 8.49 red light
CW Jr 8.44 win
I believe Daniels has the bye to the final.
It did appear CW had an issue with the car regarding the staging issue. Doors were open and people running around....but I'm 800ft away so.
Posted By: 68shifter
Hemi Challenge Semi Results - 08/31/12 09:43 PM
Round 4
Hard 8.50
CW Jr 8.43 win
Daniels 8.48
Hard 8.50
CW Jr 8.43 win
Daniels 8.48
Posted By: ro23car
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/01/12 12:17 AM
Quote:thats some good profesional hillbilly racin right der now.Quote:
From the NHRA results page:
"(W) Charlie Westcott Jr. (SS/AH '68 Barracuda) 0.102 8.498 158.91
(L) David Barton (SS/AH '68 Dart) 0.073 8.584 156.39
Westcott let Barton sit in pre-stage for a very long time before he joined the party. Charlie Westcott Jr.'s MOV: 0.0574 seconds (approximately 13 feet)."
Chuckles is a schmuck! Too bad he didn't get a redlight for playing games!
No rule saying how long you have to prestage the car. Barton could have played the game also. Wait long enough, and double bulb him...
Posted By: 68shifter
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/01/12 12:54 AM
Final Round
Daniels 8.48
CW Jr. 8.39 Win
Congrats CW, alot of butts in the seats to watch an awesome race, the supercars final...., a joke.
Daniels 8.48
CW Jr. 8.39 Win
Congrats CW, alot of butts in the seats to watch an awesome race, the supercars final...., a joke.
Posted By: hemi-challenger
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/01/12 02:40 AM
68shifter, Thank you for all the results today from the ss/ah. Thanks / Gary
Posted By: 68shifter
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/01/12 03:19 AM
Thank you.
Here's a couple from the final tonight. I thought they were pretty neat.
Here's a couple from the final tonight. I thought they were pretty neat.
Posted By: 383man
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/01/12 05:11 AM
Thanks for the update and the pics. Ron
Ron
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/01/12 09:30 AM
Congratulations Charlie - awesome performance.
Chuck Comella has a paid in driver
, and they did great.
StewartP
Chuck Comella has a paid in driver
, and they did great. StewartP
Posted By: 65pacecar
Re: 2012 - SS/AH Super Stock - 09/01/12 04:42 PM
Did Mink make Indy this year
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar Shootout - 09/03/12 12:04 AM
Quote:
We start early due to rain chance. 8:00ish. Just finished eating my
La. recipe: Take a 3 pound crow, pluck it, gut it, wash it and saute' it for 8 hours with 3 pounds of steel wool. Throw out the crow and eat the steel wool. .38 in these conditions, are you kidding me???
Signed: Rusty teeth
Did you put a slushbox back in that thing? Sounded like it when you drove away from the scales.
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/03/12 02:15 AM
Quote:
The fastest car won.-- Boy Hebert should be depressed and embarrassed. Not much to show for all the mouth.
Actually neither, BUT I
certainly blew my whistle before I had any air in the tank. At sixty, BOY is a compliment. Thank you so much. PM me an address and I will send you some goodies!?? The whole two engine tractor pull attempt was not well recieved by NHRA. Thanks a lot Charlie!
Did shoot a limit of dove as well as a 69 today despite clipping a flying crow with a tee shot! Ball fell in hazard and I had a bad drop, made double. Bet I can beat CWJ at golf!!!! Stephen
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/03/12 01:39 PM
Thanks to all the 2012 Indy Hemi Shootout participants!
Great race and the final came down to exactly what you could hope for: The two biggest hemi builders, Barton vs Wescott, Stick vs Auto, #1 & #2 qualifiers,Past and present record holder, and a very VERY close race in the final!
And my bet was against the odds on David in the Earthquake car. Now I'll just hopethat someone puts an AH car into the super stock winners circle. I'm with the odds on this one, Lil Joe or Stephen Comella! Or if David runs the Earthquake car in the eliminator
Pictures are up on:
http://hemishootout.net/index.php?option=com_morfeoshow&task=view&gallery=31
Thanks Doug!
And Frito, where is all the live reports and pictures???
Great race and the final came down to exactly what you could hope for: The two biggest hemi builders, Barton vs Wescott, Stick vs Auto, #1 & #2 qualifiers,Past and present record holder, and a very VERY close race in the final!
And my bet was against the odds on David in the Earthquake car. Now I'll just hope
that someone puts an AH car into the super stock winners circle. I'm with the odds on this one, Lil Joe or Stephen Comella! Or if David runs the Earthquake car in the eliminator Pictures are up on:
http://hemishootout.net/index.php?option=com_morfeoshow&task=view&gallery=31
Thanks Doug!
And Frito, where is all the live reports and pictures???
Posted By: Frito
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/03/12 04:56 PM
I didn't take a lot of pics and I have to reduce them to getem on here. 68shifter takes the best. As for the live reports, I was busy this year.LOL
As for the live reports, I was busy this year.LOL
Posted By: Frito
Re: Hemi Challenge Results rd2 - 09/03/12 05:00 PM
The Island Hemi was beautiful and the father & son team of the Comella's gave a good showing.
Posted By: Spyphish
alanis morissette sings about HEMI - 09/11/12 12:53 AM
She called me (don't tell Jane) and sang:
Isn't it ironic, don't you think. A little too ironic, I really do think:
They let Ray.......spacer his head;
Charlie's doubler bar......with all of it's thread;
Yet when I do.....a safety upgrade;
I get kicked out...... when I already paid;
Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
A little too ironic? IREALLY do think.
No matter. Slow as Christmas.
Isn't it ironic, don't you think. A little too ironic, I really do think:
They let Ray.......spacer his head;
Charlie's doubler bar......with all of it's thread;
Yet when I do.....a safety upgrade;
I get kicked out...... when I already paid;
Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
A little too ironic? I
REALLY do think.No matter. Slow as Christmas.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: alanis morissette sings about HEMI - 09/11/12 02:40 AM
Steve, for us that are not up on the latest Hemi mods.
"spacer his head"
"Charlies double bar"
Help me out please
StewartP
"spacer his head"
"Charlies double bar"
Help me out please
StewartP
Posted By: warfish
Re: alanis morissette sings about HEMI - 09/11/12 12:36 PM
Quote:
Steve, for us that are not up on the latest Hemi mods.
"spacer his head"
"Charlies double bar"
Help me out please
StewartP
Let me know when you find out, "double bar"
I think hes spent to much time in the double bar.
cw
Posted By: StewartP
Re: alanis morissette sings about HEMI - 09/11/12 01:28 PM
Way to go at INDY, but did you really have to give David a head start ? 
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: alanis morissette sings about HEMI - 09/12/12 01:07 AM
.with all of it's thread;??? 
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar Shootout - 09/13/12 12:53 AM
Did you put a slushbox back in that thing? Sounded like it when you drove away from the scales.
How 'bout it Spyphish, you rockin cowboy boots or tennis shoes in that car?
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Mopar Shootout - 09/13/12 02:14 AM
Quote:Did you put a slushbox back in that thing? Sounded like it when you drove away from the scales.
How 'bout it Spyphish, you rockin cowboy boots or tennis shoes in that car?
It was the "slushbox" for that race. Much easier to drive in the BARN for a couple of days. Obviously the car did not like it. Myself and Jeremy, my "putter 'inner; taker 'outter" both bumped our head on changeout. Shoulda' Coulda' Woulda'
Water-gate; White Water-gate; WMD-gate; Bounty-gate; and now
Girdle-gate. Gotta' love it!!!!
Posted By: LSP
Re: Mopar Shootout - 09/15/12 01:23 AM
It was the "slushbox" for that race. Much easier to drive in the BARN for a couple of days. Obviously the car did not like it. Myself and Jeremy, my "putter 'inner; taker 'outter" both bumped our head on changeout. Shoulda' Coulda' Woulda'
You putting the stick back in it then?
Posted By: Spyphish
SS/AH head question - 09/19/12 03:45 AM
I was recently DQed at Indy trying to run the Hemi Shootout. It really did not matter as I was not fast. I do have 4 1/4"-20 allen bolts visable on the outside of the head as a valvetrain saftey measure and my NHRA letter cited "No external modifications to the head". So I am removing them and acknowledge my mistake as they are visable. NHRA will allow me to pass tech at next race and all is well.
I now have a better idea. My question before I do it, is can I mill the intake runner past the top of the valve cover bolt holes, and use the bottom remaining threads to hold an adapter plate so I can put the valve cover back on so it will seal? This will allow me to open the intake runner up. Of course I will have to hike up the intake as well. Will these spacers be perceived as an "external modification" since it seems I am already the "bad boy" of Hemi. I just hate to do all this work and not pass. Thanks in advance for your advice. Stephen
was recently DQed at Indy trying to run the Hemi Shootout. It really did not matter as I was not fast. I do have 4 1/4"-20 allen bolts visable on the outside of the head as a valvetrain saftey measure and my NHRA letter cited "No external modifications to the head". So I am removing them and acknowledge my mistake as they are visable. NHRA will allow me to pass tech at next race and all is well. I now have a better idea. My question before I do it, is can I mill the intake runner past the top of the valve cover bolt holes, and use the bottom remaining threads to hold an adapter plate so I can put the valve cover back on so it will seal? This will allow me to open the intake runner up. Of course I will have to hike up the intake as well. Will these spacers be perceived as an "external modification" since it seems I am already the "bad boy" of Hemi. I just hate to do all this work and not pass. Thanks in advance for your advice. Stephen
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: SS/AH head question - 09/19/12 11:19 AM
I guess I take this sh!t too seriously…
never saw the chop busting in the post this morning and I took the bait…
never saw the chop busting in the post this morning and I took the bait…
Posted By: LSP
Re: SS/AH head question - 09/21/12 02:37 AM
Quote:
I
I now have a better idea. My question before I do it, is can I mill the intake runner past the top of the valve cover bolt holes, and use the bottom remaining threads to hold an adapter plate so I can put the valve cover back on so it will seal? This will allow me to open the intake runner up. Of course I will have to hike up the intake as well. Will these spacers be perceived as an "external modification" since it seems I am already the "bad boy" of Hemi. I just hate to do all this work and not pass. Thanks in advance for your advice. Stephen
Are you doing the head work now?
Posted By: Spyphish
002 - 09/23/12 04:42 AM
Way to go Jeff K. in Columbus!!!!!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: 002 - 09/23/12 12:36 PM
Quote:
Way to go Jeff K. in Columbus!!!!!
details Steve, details!
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: 002 - 09/23/12 01:45 PM
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
335 Jeffrey Kobylski 350 Jim Pancake
C1 ****WINNER**** 0.002 8.864 150.45 0.309 8.573 155.26
SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.436 SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.727
Qualified: #74 8.962 NS #39 8.539 NS
There are 4 in SS/AH.
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
5529 Russ Campbell 364 Tony De Pillo
C1 ****WINNER**** 0.053 8.675 153.82 -0.023 8.895 150.01
SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.625 SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.405
Qualified: #51 8.647 NS #65 8.866 NS
335 Jeffrey Kobylski 350 Jim Pancake
C1 ****WINNER**** 0.002 8.864 150.45 0.309 8.573 155.26
SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.436 SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.727
Qualified: #74 8.962 NS #39 8.539 NS
There are 4 in SS/AH.
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
5529 Russ Campbell 364 Tony De Pillo
C1 ****WINNER**** 0.053 8.675 153.82 -0.023 8.895 150.01
SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.625 SS/AH Index: 9.30 (+/-): -0.405
Qualified: #51 8.647 NS #65 8.866 NS
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: 002 - 09/24/12 02:38 AM
Congrats!
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 002 - 09/26/12 03:09 PM
Are any of the SS/AH cars running oil contianment diapers or belly pans? If so i would love to see photo's if possible. Trying to figure out how to come up with something effective for my NSS car. I noticed looking at pics of the new cars this year some guys have the headers dumping out towards the side of the car. Is there a reason for this? just wondering if it helps in adding a belly pan, or is it for some other reason?
thanks for any input.
thanks for any input.
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: 002 - 09/26/12 04:06 PM
Matt no one is running a diaper and the headers are kicked out to make trans r+r easier.
Posted By: HemiDart68
Re: 002 - 09/26/12 04:46 PM
Quote:
Matt no one is running a diaper and the headers are kicked out to make trans r+r easier.
Thanks Jake
Posted By: Spyphish
Dutch - 10/02/12 01:52 PM
New Bartcott motor
![Attached picture 7403679-Dutch%2012%20b[1].JPG](https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/7403679-Dutch%2012%20b[1].JPG "7403679-Dutch%2012%20b[1].JPG")
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Dutch - 10/02/12 04:48 PM
Stephen that looks an aweful lot like Mr Mouton's bullet 
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: Dutch - 10/03/12 07:07 PM
Not even a nibble?...........
Posted By: Dyno1
Bartcott motor - 10/03/12 09:30 PM
Looks like a new SS/AM motor
Posted By: 64HemiSavoy
Re: Dutch - 10/04/12 12:12 AM
Carbs & intake look a tad bit illegal for this thread
Posted By: Frito
Re: Dutch - 10/04/12 01:51 AM
Frito saw this at "THE BARN" a couple of weeks ago while attending Monster Mopar Weekend at Indy. The tech guy said some cajun tried to say a 68 Cuda orginally came with carb bonnets. The N2O bottle was found wrapped in a camo blanket and the valve cover looked liked it was equipped with a spacer. ???????????
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Dutch - 10/04/12 03:17 AM
WOW! That's my stuff!!! But where is the car?
stuff!!! But where is the car?
Posted By: varunner
Re: Dutch - 10/04/12 03:27 PM
Anyone know if the hemi shootout at the dutch will be run to completion on Sat. ? Schedule shows RD 1 starting at 12:30, nothing else shown
Posted By: Dyno1
Reading - 10/05/12 09:27 PM
Nice pass:
2 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.341 9.30 -0.959
2 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.341 9.30 -0.959
Posted By: Slap Shot
Re: Reading - 10/06/12 06:43 PM
Quote:
Nice pass:
2 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.341 9.30 -0.959
Friday morning
Posted By: Slap Shot
Re: Reading - 10/06/12 06:44 PM
Quote:
Nice pass:
2 1517 SS/AH Jim Daniels, Bristol PA, '68 Dart 8.341 9.30 -0.959
tried to get the full times
Posted By: Slap Shot
Re: Reading - 10/06/12 06:47 PM
another SS/AH car in the lanes Friday morning
Posted By: Doug Walker
Re: Dutch - 10/09/12 01:28 AM
It is really quiet on this website. What SS/AH cars are planning on attending the Pennsylvania Dutch Classic ? It is less than three days from now.
Posted By: Barnstorm
Re: Dutch - 10/09/12 01:45 AM
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Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Dutch - 10/10/12 03:34 AM
Not me . Bottle heaters did not show up.
. Bottle heaters did not show up.
Posted By: CMcAllister
Re: Dutch - 10/11/12 11:37 PM
Quote:
Not me
Posted By: fascat
Re: Dutch - 10/12/12 12:43 PM
Where are the fishes???????fascat
Posted By: Frito
Re: Dutch *DELETED* - 10/12/12 05:23 PM
Post deleted by Frito
Posted By: BartonHemi
Re: Dutch - 10/13/12 02:33 AM
Tyler ran an 8.26 @ 162 yesterday according to Hemi Shootout. Only 10 cars, really tough for the guys running. Like to make it tomorrow but just worked til 9:30 getting a car ready for another event this weekend. Hope someone reports as it happens tomorrow. The great air should give some fast times. Good luck to all those running at the Grove tomorrow. Shine ON HJ
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: Dutch - 10/13/12 02:59 AM
Quote:
fascat
Lake Grenada Ms. I
hope. Just used my 4 little external bolts for trout line weights.
Posted By: SuperStocker
Re: Dutch - 10/13/12 11:18 PM
Way to go Lil Joe & Daniel for winning the Dutch!
Ryan Becnel
Ryan Becnel
Posted By: King Cuda
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 03:23 AM
Way to go lil Joe you showed them you can win with not as much hp as them because your the best driver period!
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 06:47 AM
Congrats Lil Joe! You are the man!
Posted By: wildcargo
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 03:11 PM
I could not make it this year, So is there some place to read round by round and some photos.
Thanks Wild
Thanks Wild
Posted By: BartonHemi
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 03:33 PM
http://www.hemishootout.net/ Good pictures and storyline. Congrats to Lil Joe.
Posted By: BOSSHEMI
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 04:02 PM
Congrats Lil Joe! Nicest guy and best shoe at the track.
Barton-Wescott issue on facebook and not here. Facebook is for teens.
Charlies not coming cause Bartons cheating, Bartons protesting if Charlie shows, come on what gives. Aint a shootout without camo cars. Much more fun here with Bucky, Charlie and Jeff K., throttling each other in years past.
Barton-Wescott issue on facebook and not here. Facebook is for teens.
Charlies not coming cause Bartons cheating, Bartons protesting if Charlie shows, come on what gives. Aint a shootout without camo cars. Much more fun here with Bucky, Charlie and Jeff K., throttling each other in years past.
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 06:40 PM
Boss- I talked with Ray at the track and He never said he was going to protest Charlie. I will say he was very angry being labeled a cheater and I don't blame him.
Made me sick to my stomach with the Comella's. Just glad Steve was alright. The only Parma powerplant in the shootout.
And I agree about Lil' Joe! Hoping he doubles up with a win today!
Just wasn't the same without the camo cars there and was hoping to see
Made me sick to my stomach with the Comella's. Just glad Steve was alright. The only Parma powerplant in the shootout.
And I agree about Lil' Joe! Hoping he doubles up with a win today!
Just wasn't the same without the camo cars there and was hoping to see
Posted By: warfish
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 10:06 PM
No one likes being called a cheater, there is an easy way to keep that from happening.
how did the "inspection" on the dart go today?
how did the "inspection" on the dart go today?
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: Dutch - 10/14/12 10:43 PM
All I can tell you is that it was a voluntary inspection to clear the accusations.
Posted By: ro23car
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 12:33 AM
Quote:so what are or were the accusations?
All I can tell you is that it was a voluntary inspection to clear the accusations.
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 03:04 PM
congrats lil joe
we are going to put out a missing persons on one "bucky hess" soon if he isnt sighted...
the accusations are somewhat derived from what kind and how many peanuts some are feeding their elephants,,, or how far you can cut them back..... and to what degree.......
we are going to put out a missing persons on one "bucky hess" soon if he isnt sighted...
the accusations are somewhat derived from what kind and how many peanuts some are feeding their elephants,,, or how far you can cut them back..... and to what degree.......
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 03:28 PM
Jeff, that was really cute -
Posted By: warfish
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 05:10 PM
Here is a pic of my engine, with the flange that is broken. It was said by some that I had my intake bolted to an adapter at indy. Clearly it isnt. I sent similar pics to NHRA 5 mins ago at their request, because I have nothing to hide.
As far as me not going to the grove, we felt that this deal needs to get handled by NHRA, which I am certain it will based on recent conversations with them.
We were not afraid to go there because of possible protest. I was prepared to protest the whole Barton team if it was nessasary. 300.00 per car isnt much money, and you get it back if they are illegal anyways.
It is my resposibility to my customers to provide them with the latest, best parts. When I heard this was being done, I asked if it was legal, I got a flat "NO!" so I asked why can others do it.
That was last December. It has taken till now to get anything done.
The part that upsets me is the typical response when someone is caught cheating. "well, HE is doing this (fill in the blank)" "We have been doing this for .... years".
I dont really care what anyone thinks, It is my job to run my business, and provide componants that are able to win, and that is what I will continue to do.
Something else I heard that was a joke, "we get torn down all the time, they never said anything"
When was the last time someone other than me or my dad has been torn down? We have won every teardown race for the last 2 years, Daniels won indy 3 years ago, or it would be at least 3 years.
later
cw
As far as me not going to the grove, we felt that this deal needs to get handled by NHRA, which I am certain it will based on recent conversations with them.
We were not afraid to go there because of possible protest. I was prepared to protest the whole Barton team if it was nessasary. 300.00 per car isnt much money, and you get it back if they are illegal anyways.
It is my resposibility to my customers to provide them with the latest, best parts. When I heard this was being done, I asked if it was legal, I got a flat "NO!" so I asked why can others do it.
That was last December. It has taken till now to get anything done.
The part that upsets me is the typical response when someone is caught cheating. "well, HE is doing this (fill in the blank)" "We have been doing this for .... years".
I dont really care what anyone thinks, It is my job to run my business, and provide componants that are able to win, and that is what I will continue to do.
Something else I heard that was a joke, "we get torn down all the time, they never said anything"
When was the last time someone other than me or my dad has been torn down? We have won every teardown race for the last 2 years, Daniels won indy 3 years ago, or it would be at least 3 years.
later
cw
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 05:18 PM
CW, can you post the picture without the writing, and point out the broken flange, for us old farts - also, I suspect the area that is white, is something you do not want us to see. I appreciate that. But how about a peek :-)-- Anyone that is as dominate as you, are gonna get bad mouthed all the time for any reason. Are you coming to South Georgia this year ?
StewartP
StewartP
Posted By: warfish
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 06:03 PM
you cant see the broken flange?
Its on the left under the text that says its broken.
That was the point of the text. Apparently it wasnt very effective.
Its on the left under the text that says its broken.
That was the point of the text. Apparently it wasnt very effective.
Posted By: Frito
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 06:13 PM
Stewart, Check out the green, which is the bottom of the intake. You can then tell where the head is broken.
Posted By: bwdst6
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 06:33 PM
Stupid question: Why wouldn’t you just fix the head?
ALso, we have run our bracket hemi’s sometimes without even using the valve cover to head bolts. We would just double the o-rings on the spark plug tubes and the oem valve covers would seal just fine. Heck since the flange is missing at the top you could probably just overlap a thick gasket, cover it with silicon and it would probably seal.
ALso, we have run our bracket hemi’s sometimes without even using the valve cover to head bolts. We would just double the o-rings on the spark plug tubes and the oem valve covers would seal just fine. Heck since the flange is missing at the top you could probably just overlap a thick gasket, cover it with silicon and it would probably seal.
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 07:14 PM
isnt it clear in the rule book that you cant cut into the bolt holes for the valve cover???...i cant see angles being important
Posted By: StewartP
Re: Dutch - 10/15/12 11:44 PM
CW - not you, it is me - us old guys, sometimes don't see what is in front of our noses. Thanks
Posted By: ro23car
Re: Dutch - 10/16/12 02:19 AM
thank you showing what was going on.
Posted By: Frito
Re: Dutch - 10/16/12 09:37 PM
Maybe a "West Coast Hemi" SS/AH car will show up at Vegas next week.
Posted By: fascat
Re: Dutch - 10/17/12 11:35 AM
Frito . It looks like Little Joe is the one that needs to go west. Hot car right now. Good Driver for a very hard car to go rounds. Killer Congrats on win & r/u at The Dutch
fascat
fascat
Posted By: ASA1711
Re: Dutch - 10/17/12 10:54 PM
Although the Shootout was missing too many top cars, the Westcotts, Perkins and Bucky, Congratulations to Little Joe on his well deserved victory, great driver and great car.
Posted By: joe teuton
Re: Dutch - 10/26/12 04:45 AM
Congratulations Lloyd Wolford on ss/ah class win at las Vegas nice job Lloyd and JAMES.
Posted By: Spyphish
Dey' Dat' - 10/29/12 01:39 PM
Quote:Quote:
The fastest car won.-- Boy Hebert should be depressed and embarrassed. Not much to show for all the mouth.
I
Posted By: Dyno1
L,V, - 10/30/12 04:43 AM
Lloyd, nice job in LV. Dyno
Posted By: JAKE68
Re: L,V, - 11/13/12 04:00 PM
Cleaning up some of my stuff I noticed I have a collection of the hemi shoot out posters. I am missing 2009 and any before 2006. If any of you guys have extras I am interested give me a call. Thanks Jake
Posted By: 1pieman426
hemi super stock heads - 11/19/12 06:38 PM
i see that NHRA clarified the rules on cylinder heads for stock & superstock just wondering if this clears up what you are allowed to do legally to hemi heads i know there was a lot of discussion a while back
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/19/12 09:07 PM
where did you see that? i just looked on nhraracer.com and didnt see anything
Posted By: StewartP
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/19/12 09:54 PM
Joe, can you link that for us old farts ?
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/20/12 01:20 AM
Joe, I don't see that clarifying anything. I hope theres a new rule to follow as that was a waste of ink…
Valve cover bolt holes must remain unaltered and in their original location.
Valve cover bolt holes must remain unaltered and in their original location.
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/20/12 01:25 AM
Heres the link:
http://www.nhraracer.com/content/general.asp?articleid=53432&zoneid=132
Rule amendment is under "stock cyl heads"
http://www.nhraracer.com/content/general.asp?articleid=53432&zoneid=132
Rule amendment is under "stock cyl heads"
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/20/12 03:03 AM
i sent bruce a picture of a valve cover bolt hole in the intake face last thursday or friday and requested 100% clarification as to what the rule means,, they are supposed to come out with a better wording soon
Posted By: LA360
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/20/12 06:22 AM
How much are you allowed to mill the intake face? I have seen examples where the bottom of the valve cover threads showing, this is obviously a means of acheiving a larger cross section port whilst still meeting the CC requirements?
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/20/12 03:24 PM
Quote:
How much are you allowed to mill the intake face?
thats a good question,, tech has been thinking about it for a few months now
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/22/12 12:33 AM
I think the rule is as clear as it can get. It has been clear for as long as the rule has been in place. The only problem is that it wasnt enforced.
As a Stock & SuperStock cylinder head guy i think the rule needs to be taken as is and the subject needs to be dropped.NHRA has done there job on making this rule clear and now they just need to enforce it and stay within the guidlines and wording!!! Its pretty cut and dry guys.
No Disrespect to anyone but lets move on and let the chips fall where they may!
As a Stock & SuperStock cylinder head guy i think the rule needs to be taken as is and the subject needs to be dropped.NHRA has done there job on making this rule clear and now they just need to enforce it and stay within the guidlines and wording!!! Its pretty cut and dry guys.
No Disrespect to anyone but lets move on and let the chips fall where they may!
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/22/12 01:46 AM
The problem with that theory is NHRA has let this stuff go for so long, not only are 75% or more of the AH racers current heads illegal, but all their old stuff also…
You want to talk about class killer…
And No, I'm not currently affected. My SS/DA hemi heads are legal to the rules and my AH stuff will be raced in bracket mode in local ECSSSA circuit races. Makes alot of VERY expensive current hemi heads worthless…except for AH circuit racers like myself
You want to talk about class killer…
And No, I'm not currently affected. My SS/DA hemi heads are legal to the rules and my AH stuff will be raced in bracket mode in local ECSSSA circuit races. Makes alot of VERY expensive current hemi heads worthless…except for AH circuit racers like myself
Posted By: Dyno1
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/22/12 03:58 AM
And mine. Dyno
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/22/12 07:55 PM
Dan,,, you have old Barton stuff from marvel/bàughman,, going by what Eric says they are illegal,,, everybody at Indy this year was illegal going on what Eric says,,, if you see the valve cover bolt hole exposed in the int face,, it's illegal,, rule says int face may not be cut into any part of screw hole,,, any part,, tech says that means at the v cover sealing surface,, but if you listen to Eric and go as written,, it's any part,, so if that is enforced,, I'd say one person will have the advantage
We need this clarified
Happy thanksgiving to all
Jeff
We need this clarified
Happy thanksgiving to all
Jeff
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/22/12 10:03 PM
If you take Jeff's reply and change "Erik" to "NHRA" That's pretty much how a rule is supposed to be taken. Not everyone at indy was illegal because none of my stuff has the bolt hole exposed what so ever because i take the rules as "written" and let the Tech officials figure it out.If anyone thinks the 2 cc's you gain from the two different interpretations of the rule is going to be the difference between 8.90 and 8.30 they are sadly mistaken! Im all in favor of NHRA adding "At the valve cover sealing surface" to the rule book, that way people can take the rule as written!!!!!!!
Posted By: Defbob
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/23/12 03:21 AM
It seems to me that the amendment is towards "stock" class heads. If it were for super stock, wouldn't it have been under "super stock cylinder heads"? The short block amendments are separated between the two.
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/23/12 03:58 PM
DefBob, at the begining of the super stock rules:
Requirements and specifications for all Super Stock categories are the same as those for Stock Cars - Section 10A - with the following exceptions:
Unless it is written othrwise, the stock rule applies.
And my point in all of this is that if NHRA does something about all the fighting within the class according to the way the rule book is currently written, There will be alot of very expensive junk hemi heads.
There needs to be an ammicable solution and the majority of hemi heads deemed legal. If the valve cover gasket fits and minimal thread cutting involved, there needs to be a cc penalty or spacer made.
As Erik has stated, a few cc's will not kill the performance of these cars that much. And if you think it will, do a new set of heads sans penalty cc's...
Requirements and specifications for all Super Stock categories are the same as those for Stock Cars - Section 10A - with the following exceptions:
Unless it is written othrwise, the stock rule applies.
And my point in all of this is that if NHRA does something about all the fighting within the class according to the way the rule book is currently written, There will be alot of very expensive junk hemi heads.
There needs to be an ammicable solution and the majority of hemi heads deemed legal. If the valve cover gasket fits and minimal thread cutting involved, there needs to be a cc penalty or spacer made.
As Erik has stated, a few cc's will not kill the performance of these cars that much. And if you think it will, do a new set of heads sans penalty cc's...
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/23/12 04:14 PM
if you think there are 2 cc's difference in the intrepretation of the rule,, you,,,,, are sadly mistaken
when the rule book says one thing,, then you talk to tech and they say this is how we meant it,, then you talk to different divisions and they say this,,, when others say that,, you now have 3 versions of the same rule depending on who you ask in nhra,,, or racers
we just need this clarified,, which should happen in the next few weeks
jeff
when the rule book says one thing,, then you talk to tech and they say this is how we meant it,, then you talk to different divisions and they say this,,, when others say that,, you now have 3 versions of the same rule depending on who you ask in nhra,,, or racers
we just need this clarified,, which should happen in the next few weeks
jeff
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/23/12 04:46 PM
what i want to know i how this crap ever gets started??..seems people with the $$ just throw this [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] out there and see if it sticks...id say the rule couldnt be any clearer...and if everyones stuff turns illegal so be it...they really knew it wasnt to start with if they can read...eric seems the only sane one here
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/23/12 09:47 PM
Quote:
what i want to know i how this crap ever gets started??..seems people with the $$ just throw this [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] out there and see if it sticks...id say the rule couldnt be any clearer...and if everyones stuff turns illegal so be it...they really knew it wasnt to start with if they can read...eric seems the only sane one here
SANE? AH Hemi! OXYMORON
was first in line at R&M Black Friday sale. Got some more 1/4"X 20 bolts.Currently cheating out 49 Ward Lafrance for Great Race in June.
Posted By: SCATPACK 1
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/24/12 07:09 PM
So going by the rule, as it is written, IF I machine the intake surface around the valve cover bolt and the valve cover bolt threads are untouched, but the intake surface itself has been completely machined away and a new intake surface rigged up to work behind the valve cover bolts, with the intake machined to match this new head intake surface, is this legal? Not in the spirit of the rule, I know, but I do not see where it states the intake has to be completely flat along the surface. Or did I miss this? By the letter of the rule, this would seem to be legal unless it states the head surface has to be completely flat the entire length of the head-intake surface.
Not trying to point fingers at anyone, but it looks like that is what was done on the picture of the Camo head (I am probably wrong). A friend that builds SB Chevys does this and has never been busted.
Seems like it would make some GM & Ford heads illegal too.
Not trying to point fingers at anyone, but it looks like that is what was done on the picture of the Camo head (I am probably wrong). A friend that builds SB Chevys does this and has never been busted.
Seems like it would make some GM & Ford heads illegal too.
Posted By: StewartP
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/24/12 09:55 PM
How about posting a picture of the camo head you are referring to ?
Posted By: SCATPACK 1
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/24/12 10:45 PM
The picture is on page 8 near the end. The one posted earlier by Charlie. See the green part of the gasket on the intake with the small square opening. It appears to b just there to clear the VC bolt that was left intact. Pet rules, I agree it would b legal.
Posted By: Spyphish
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/24/12 11:57 PM
Quote:
The picture is on page 8 near the end. The one posted earlier by Charlie. See the green part of the gasket on the intake with the small square opening. It appears to b just there to clear the VC bolt that was left intact. Pet rules, I agree it would b legal.
If you will employ close range industrial terrestrial photogrammetry (why I
get the big bucks!) using that single photo and an actual motor you can gain 3210 lbs of info. Two overlapping photos would be better, the standard, but microns are microns, all 25,400 per inch. I now know the angle of the bolt combined with the angle of the mill cut, how many internal threads should be missing, cut, and where. Can reverse engineer cc volume. Can listen and map his incar stuff. Know everything but how to outrun him......
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/25/12 01:35 PM
Quote:
if everyones stuff turns illegal so be it...
SS/AH 3480- you don't have an AH car do you?
I don't know anyone that would make a statement like that who even remotely cares about the class
Posted By: warfish
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/25/12 05:26 PM
Jay Thorne has had a hemi car for quite a while. I sold him some pistons about 5 years ago. He doesnt have alot of money, and does everything himself.
Why does it seem that EVERYONE is on the same page except Barton, and John K (press secretary for barton).
Unless you are one of the menbers of the barton car club, you dont have anything to worry about.
cw
Why does it seem that EVERYONE is on the same page except Barton, and John K (press secretary for barton).
Unless you are one of the menbers of the barton car club, you dont have anything to worry about.
cw
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/25/12 08:55 PM
", is this legal? Not in the spirit of the rule, I know, ".....Exactly what I'm talking about!
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/25/12 09:06 PM
So just because I think that if the rule was enforced and the stuff that has been turned a blind eye to for so many years was illegal, I don't care about the class? ..... If you don't think I care about the class you're mistaken
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/25/12 11:17 PM
Quote:
So just because I think that if the rule was enforced and the stuff that has been turned a blind eye to for so many years was illegal, I don't care about the class? ..... If you don't think I care about the class you're mistaken
I've been wrong before. I hope you do care about the class and have enough foresight to see if the majority of heads are thrown out, SS/AH will probably never recover.
And its the little guys that this will hit the hardest. 10 yr old AH heads are still illegal
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/25/12 11:25 PM
Quote:
Why does it seem that EVERYONE is on the same page except Barton, and John K (press secretary for barton).
Unless you are one of the menbers of the barton car club, you dont have anything to worry about.
cw
What about Erik Jones?
It seeems he and I are on the same page as far as reading the rule. And FJ Smith also, although he thinks I'm an idiot for asking if I could race a head thats are milled into the vc threads, LOL!.
And the difference is when Eric said toss everyone, I stated lets figure out a way to save ALL the castings already out there.
Posted By: Erik Jones
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/26/12 06:12 PM
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And the difference is when Eric said toss everyone, I stated lets figure out a way to save ALL the castings already out there.
I never said to toss anyone! It was a simple statement that the rule is perfectly clear and that this subject needs to be dropped. Its obvious that Charlie (The fastest guy in the country) understands the rule, the picture speaks for its self!
Posted By: SSDAcuda
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/27/12 11:37 AM
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I never said to toss anyone!
That is very comforting to hear.
My point is that the way the rule is currently written, 90% of the AH cars are not Super Stock legal. This BS started when one group of racers were singled out for going a little farther than the rest with it.
If one or all of that elite group are bounced and deemed illegal, do you really think that will hurt them? Maybe their pride, LOL! Its the group way beyond them that will suffer the consequences. The little guy AH racers. The Jay Thornes or Dan Zrusts or really the countless heads in SS/AA, BA, CA, DA and EA that will suffer. Once NHRA takes a stand and throws one set of heads out, there are countless others that will be affected by this. And the countless others don't have the money to recover so easily. That is my point.
Charlie can call me the Barton secretary, I'm flattered! I secretly threw my warfish shirt away, and took off my camo underwear though! But I don't consider myself an AH racer. Just because I now own an AH car I don't feel like I am in that elite group. I am a Super Stock hemi racer though and look up to ALL the AH racers like looking up at a big brother.
I go to the track to make friends not enemies. One SS/AH competitor told me his take on this whole fight:
the AH guys like going fast and the spectators love it why slow us down. What's done is done move on Amen
My thought exactly! Just don't try to single one guy out and burn him at the stake, because your burning countless others you never thought about
Posted By: mr_340
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/27/12 02:01 PM
"Intake side of head may not be cut into any part of valve cover bolt holes. Valve cover bolt holes must remain unaltered and in their original location." Illegal is illegal. Scrap anything that violates this rule and build new heads. Sell me the old illegal heads really cheap.
I've had the thought that MP should make raw castings available to those high dollar engine/head builders. You could move the valve angles and machine the valve cover bolt holes to whatever depth you wanted, or weld a stud to the upper row of bolt "holes", or where the holes would be?
I've had the thought that MP should make raw castings available to those high dollar engine/head builders. You could move the valve angles and machine the valve cover bolt holes to whatever depth you wanted, or weld a stud to the upper row of bolt "holes", or where the holes would be?
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/27/12 02:34 PM
do the stockers and/or chevy guys cut the intake face so far they break int the bottom of the valve cover bolt (not sure what to call them...holes,wells,threaded cavity,,) also???...if not will there be a special "hemi" rule?
Posted By: moderncylinder
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/27/12 09:15 PM
a hemi is i think the only engine with an intake face angle more than 90 degrees to the deck,, 103 to be exact,,, most engines are 90 or less than 90,, so it would be impossible for the most part to cut the face and not break into the top before you break into the bottom,,
ok,, so when you have a question about the rules,, you ask the nhra tech,, not other racers,, if tech tells you what you can and cant do,, thats what you go by,, because after all they will be telling you if youre legal or not after you race,, so jay,, john,, whoever,, you may have a perception of the rule the way it is written,,, but nhra tech are the ones whose perception matters
the problem arives in that a person asked their tech from their division if they could do something and they said yes,, the guy made an argument about something,, and the tech agreed,, so the guy went and did it,, now the higher up tech says no you cant do that,, so it is being worked out/figured out,,, all that needs to happen is that we all have the same rule and its enforced no matter what division,, what race,, who you are,,, no matter what...
jay,, if you know of an engine with a int face angle greater than 90,, let me know,, other than a hemi i cant think of any
ok,, so when you have a question about the rules,, you ask the nhra tech,, not other racers,, if tech tells you what you can and cant do,, thats what you go by,, because after all they will be telling you if youre legal or not after you race,, so jay,, john,, whoever,, you may have a perception of the rule the way it is written,,, but nhra tech are the ones whose perception matters
the problem arives in that a person asked their tech from their division if they could do something and they said yes,, the guy made an argument about something,, and the tech agreed,, so the guy went and did it,, now the higher up tech says no you cant do that,, so it is being worked out/figured out,,, all that needs to happen is that we all have the same rule and its enforced no matter what division,, what race,, who you are,,, no matter what...
jay,, if you know of an engine with a int face angle greater than 90,, let me know,, other than a hemi i cant think of any
Posted By: mbogina
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/27/12 09:19 PM
This was originally a "Chevy" rule- the intake face of a SBC is at such an angle that the valve cover bolt hole would be comprimised before any of the adjoining threads, the same is NOT true on a Hemi, the angle of the intake face is such that the threads are cut into way before the bolt hole as viewed from the valve cover. On a SBC, the valve cover bolt hole is a clear limit to how far the intake face can be cut, on a Hemi, the limit is variable, depending on how deep the threads were cut into the head, either by the factory or by others.
Posted By: ss/ah3480
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/27/12 11:27 PM
what would stop you from angle cutting the intake face to gain an advantage?...i understand what your saying jeff ...i just dont understand how anyone(tech guy) could of ever told someone its ok to
cut into the bottom of the valve cover bolt threaded cavity...(obviously its not a hole)...i mean seriously anyone that reads the rulebook could figure that out...alot of other stuff is the same way(carb offset,crossram intakes)...seems theres noone to nip it in the bud from the start...do they (tech guys) just not know any better?..do they think its coool to have a fast car from their division???...oh well i guess it is what it is...
cut into the bottom of the valve cover bolt threaded cavity...(obviously its not a hole)...i mean seriously anyone that reads the rulebook could figure that out...alot of other stuff is the same way(carb offset,crossram intakes)...seems theres noone to nip it in the bud from the start...do they (tech guys) just not know any better?..do they think its coool to have a fast car from their division???...oh well i guess it is what it is...
Posted By: cudaman1969
Re: hemi super stock heads - 11/28/12 03:40 AM
Off the head subject what do you guys run for piston side clearance in these SS/AH engines. I picked up a SS short block that has a lot..kinda scary.
Posted By: Spyphish
2013 Hemi Chootout - 12/06/12 04:43 PM
March 22-24 at No Problem Raceway Cajun Sports Nationals. Details to follow but it should be bigger than last year which had 15 cars, party's, packed stands and some of the best side by side's of all year. I thought Daniels wheelie was going to land at the Superdome.
PS Race subject to ending of Mayan Calendar and/orPHISHCAL CLIFF....LOL
PS Race subject to ending of Mayan Calendar and/or
PHISHCAL CLIFF....LOL