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WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car

Posted By: Moparlar

WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 10:10 PM

Never thought I would do this but I have had the car 17 years and haven't touched it. Maybe I should sell to someone that will. No engine or trans. Sold floors and frame rails some minor outside rust. Factory auto with buckets, air grabber, factory sunroof, am/fm cassette, fe5 black interior, full vinyl top.

Larry
Posted By: not_a_charger

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 10:11 PM

Does it have a grille?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 10:16 PM

I have plenty of grilles to give one with the car. And I believe most of it is on the car
Posted By: BigMoneyLewis

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 10:39 PM

Most people will call me crazy , but I am in the same boat with the '72 V codes as I am with the 70 Sport Fury GT V code .
ULTRA ULTRA RARE , Very oddball, Highly misundersood and underestimated by the general population.
I'd say a rolling body, no engine, $ 40,000.
Cars like these are " showstopers" aka museum trophys and center pieces to car collections for the guy who wants to have something nobody else has got .
It's like having your own personal bigfoot in your garage , while everybody else just has the run of the mill chimpanzes .

Greg
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 10:51 PM

i would say 30k minimum actual sale.. 40k asking $$$.. .broadcast sheet? how rusty is it?.. i know the feeling lar.. cool car.. my fury and that car would be a sight for sore eye,s at a show... dan
Posted By: crocha617

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 10:55 PM

There is a member on here looking for that very car. I will try and find his info and post it.

See below.Have you talked to this guy yet???

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=81393.0
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 11:02 PM

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i would say 30k minimum actual sale.. 40k asking $$$.. .broadcast sheet? how rusty is it?.. i know the feeling lar.. cool car.. my fury and that car would be a sight for sore eye,s at a show... dan




No Broadcast sheet, I feel not rusty. Doesn't need quarter replacement only patching. And based on the cars found this is the last 6 pack car built by chrysler.


Larry
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 11:17 PM

Sad to see you thinking of selling it Larry, you have always been known by that car! Of course I understand where you are coming from, since the Dart I have owned for almost 34 years hasn't seen the light of day for the last 20... Very tough to put a value on it, and you know now is NOT the time to sell, but nobody can tell if the values will ever come back. I would say the above estimates are good, but it could go MUCH higher if there are two people who HAVE to have it. I don't know it is possible to get it ready for one of the big auctions, but that would be the best place for it.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 11:29 PM

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Sad to see you thinking of selling it Larry, you have always been known by that car! Of course I understand where you are coming from, since the Dart I have owned for almost 34 years hasn't seen the light of day for the last 20... Very tough to put a value on it, and you know now is NOT the time to sell, but nobody can tell if the values will ever come back. I would say the above estimates are good, but it could go MUCH higher if there are two people who HAVE to have it. I don't know it is possible to get it ready for one of the big auctions, but that would be the best place for it.




I am sure you know the feeling. At least I still have a 6 pack superbird along with the other cars. Or I have also considered selling the bird and restoring the roadrunner
Posted By: hemigod426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/17/11 11:37 PM

with the nice color,rare options,needs resto and no motor and trans id say 20,000 firm
Posted By: nakita7

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 01:23 AM

Where is the engine?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 01:27 AM

Wasn't there when I got the car. I bought a 72 440 to use for the car, I have an intake and new Correct carbs for it.

Larry
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 02:22 AM

Sale the dime a dozen Super Bird and restore the 1 of 2 72 Road Runners with a 6 Pac. In my opinion would be worth 4 to 5 times the value of an unrestored one and cost probably the same to restore as an ebody 6pac.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 02:31 AM

For those that have asked here is the fender tag.
Larry

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Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 02:34 AM

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Sale the dime a dozen Super Bird and restore the 1 of 2 72 Road Runners with a 6 Pac. In my opinion would be worth 4 to 5 times the value of an unrestored one and cost probably the same to restore as an ebody 6pac.




So far there is only 1 roadrunner. The other is a vin number that would have had to have been built in late september or early october. It is from a states DMV data base. I tend to think since that all the other 72 6 pack cars are first week of August this is a DMV goof up. V and U could be mistaken, I have seen this before I know someone that bought a 440 4 barrel Superbird that had a V in the title when he got it.

Larry
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 02:39 AM

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For those that have asked here is the fender tag.
Larry




THE RAREST FENDER TAGS YOU WILL EVER SEE!

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Posted By: 3hundred

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 02:57 AM

If a pile of scrap metal with a rare vin is worth $75,000, this roadrunner is worth no less than $150,000

Robert
Posted By: hemiviper588

WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 03:06 AM

Does anyone remember the B5 72 Runner that use to cruise Gratiot (East Detroit area) back in 72-75? It was a V code air grabber auto car. I have not heard of it since...maybe another Chrysler Exec car?
Posted By: chargervert

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 03:09 AM

Larry,there is a want ad for your V code Road Runner from Moparts member nakita7 in the b body cars wanted section.
Posted By: NewbombTurkk

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 04:16 AM

Just wondering, but could this 72 be a vin misprint? i mean how can only one leave the factory? I know it would be a long shot for the tag and vin to be mis-stamped.........but shouldn't this car be mega-dollar?
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 04:20 AM

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Just wondering, but could this 72 be a vin misprint? i mean how can only one leave the factory? I know it would be a long shot for the tag and vin to be mis-stamped.........but shouldn't this car be mega-dollar?




If you're talking about Larry's car, I doubt it's a misprint. The fender tag is coded for a 440+6 car (E87) along with the V code in the VIN. Nothing about the tag would make me think it wasn't legit.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 04:24 AM

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Just wondering, but could this 72 be a vin misprint? i mean how can only one leave the factory? I know it would be a long shot for the tag and vin to be mis-stamped.........but shouldn't this car be mega-dollar?




Part of the reason there is so few 72 6 pack cars is that they were going to offer the engine in 72 but then it couldn't meet emission rules for 72 so they pulled it very early in production.

Larry
Posted By: wasacuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:20 AM

Keep the 72 and sell the Super Bird. Besides it takes up less space.
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:40 AM

I forgot how long you have had the 'bird, how often to you take it out nowadays?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:45 AM

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I forgot how long you have had the 'bird, how often to you take it out nowadays?




I have had the bird about a year longer than the 72. The bird was out about 5 times this year. I did drive it to the CMC thing at Pheasent run and a few cruise night here and there. But right now it really needs the carbs rebuilt.

Larry
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 11:55 AM

Hi,

didn't Ron Slobe have another 72 v-code RR?
He had for sure a 72 Charger v-code

Carsten
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 01:34 PM

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Hi,

didn't Ron Slobe have another 72 v-code RR?
He had for sure a 72 Charger v-code

Carsten



Ron only had the charger, I was down there and took photos and video of it right after he died.

Larry
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 01:41 PM

Ive seen the Charger. Its here in Jersey, as of a couple years ago, anyway.

MB
Posted By: moparphilll

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 01:42 PM

Bad time to let a Car like that go. Must of the people that would be interested and willing to Fork over the cash that it deserves are car heavy, cash poor right now because the whole market is in the tank. Yes there is someone out there with 40K for the car but back 5 years ago there would have been 10 out there at that and would have drove it to 60K.
Posted By: flypaper

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 04:16 PM

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Ive seen the Charger. Its here in Jersey, as of a couple years ago, anyway.

MB




a few weeks ago,i heard it was still in jersey...
Posted By: High Impact

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 04:55 PM

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Does anyone remember the B5 72 Runner that use to cruise Gratiot (East Detroit area) back in 72-75? It was a V code air grabber auto car. I have not heard of it since...maybe another Chrysler Exec car?





I got excited when I was reading this thinking it was the car that I got a few years back. It came from that area! But, mine was a Road Runner/GTX with a four speed and no air grabber....at first, I thought I found a REAL 6-pack 72 car but later learned that the owner installed it just after he got the car.....But imagine my excitement!

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Posted By: High Impact

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 04:57 PM

I was shocked when I popped the hood

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Posted By: High Impact

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:00 PM

Just to finish this little story: Turned out to be one of the 219 GTX's with a four speed and Dana. But at first I thought I hit the lottery!

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Posted By: NewbombTurkk

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:01 PM

That 72 looks like it could be easily restored to local show status...at least that would get it back out into circulation again. Has MPG or other magazines did an article on it yet?

Having possibly the only one ever made would've made me get on it in 17 yrs........if you are dead set on selling....ebay is the only way to expose it to all of the closet collectors who fly under the radar but have the bucks for a special car like yours. list it buy it now or best offer...it is free exposure to the world....
Posted By: Dave Watt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:28 PM

If the '72 Road Runner was mine, I would sit down and figure out what it would cost to restore it properly. Then double that number. Hopefully the Superbird could be sold to cover that number. Sell the Superbird to finance the '72 resto and have some cash left over as a cushion if the restoration runs over budget.
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:33 PM

This has to be one of the most interesting WIW I have seen. I think it would be pretty hard to put a price on such a unique car. Besides being a SIX BARREL car it is optioned nicely as well.

I would think your best bet would be to put it on ebay with a bunch of pics and see what the market says. I am sure there are a few people that over it as I type. Put a big reserve on it and see if you get an offer that makes you want to move off of it.

From the picture and your description it sure doesn't seem to need that much sheetmetal work its not gonna be the patchwork quilt that the other car mentioned in this thread is destined to be if it ever gets sold.....

Maybe a trade for a nice original or restored 70-71 Six Pack/Six Barrel B-body would be fair to both parties

Anyway tough decision, good luck!

Is there any chance of you posting some more recent pics of the car?

Dave
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:40 PM

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Is there any chance of you posting some more recent pics of the car?

Dave




I guess I need to take some to post here.

Larry
Posted By: Finoke

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:52 PM

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For those that have asked here is the fender tag.
Larry




Does the G in The VON have any significance?
Posted By: NewbombTurkk

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:54 PM

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If the '72 Road Runner was mine, I would sit down and figure out what it would cost to restore it properly. Then double that number. Hopefully the Superbird could be sold to cover that number. Sell the Superbird to finance the '72 resto and have some cash left over as a cushion if the restoration runs over budget.




There is no way I would sell a nice superbird driver in order to restore a non-numbers 72 bbody.........granted the 72 is rare, but all that makes it stand out is a V in the VIN......the superbird is known all over the world as the ultimate muscle car.......if single i would mortgage everything to get one to enjoy for a year or two...then recoup my money and have the memories!

Besides...can you really prove without a doubt that a 72 V code was actually made....that the VIN/tag is not an error? what does galen say on it? surely a car like that has been eyeballed by the guru?
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:56 PM

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Is there any chance of you posting some more recent pics of the car?

Dave




I guess I need to take some to post here.

Larry




It would be nice to see more of it.
Dave
Posted By: NewbombTurkk

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 05:58 PM

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Just to finish this little story: Turned out to be one of the 219 GTX's with a four speed and Dana. But at first I thought I hit the lottery!




Darn...how did all of those leaves get up on top of the engine.....
Posted By: NewbombTurkk

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 06:00 PM

Does the 72 V code have the door sticker intact with V on it?

Too bad you couldn't track down some paperwork or the original owner or something.......
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 06:09 PM

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Besides...can you really prove without a doubt that a 72 V code was actually made....that the VIN/tag is not an error? what does galen say on it? surely a car like that has been eyeballed by the guru?




Galen is the one who lead me to the car when it came up for sale. It is the real deal. No question.

Larry
Posted By: NTOLERANCE

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 06:09 PM

TO all those saying "Sell the superbird to restore the Runner" I pose this to you...

The superbird, by the OP own admission, is a driver.

So, you would sell the car you can drive to restore a car that clearly is too valuable to drive once restored.

I'll take banging gears in a mopar over standing next to a show car anyday.

But thats just me... everyone has their own thing I guess...

More importantly, what does the owner want to do??

EDIT: Are there any parts that would go with the car to restore? Stuff is big bucks and would increase the value.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 06:09 PM

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Does the 72 V code have the door sticker intact with V on it?

Too bad you couldn't track down some paperwork or the original owner or something.......




The original door sticker is there also.

Larry
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 06:15 PM

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Just to finish this little story: Turned out to be one of the 219 GTX's with a four speed and Dana. But at first I thought I hit the lottery!




Darn...how did all of those leaves get up on top of the engine.....




That picture was a flashback for me, my Challenger engine compartment & trunk were both just like that... The was also lots Raccoon feces.... It was a crappy car...


Interesting car in the WIW forum.. Funny that Dan has to peddle his car here too... I thought he already had a buyer...
Posted By: Furyman

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 06:15 PM

There used to be a 72 V code Runner in the Mt Airey NC area in the late 80's.Somewhere I have the VIN #.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 07:47 PM

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Just wondering, but could this 72 be a vin misprint? i mean how can only one leave the factory? I know it would be a long shot for the tag and vin to be mis-stamped.........but shouldn't this car be mega-dollar?




Part of the reason there is so few 72 6 pack cars is that they were going to offer the engine in 72 but then it couldn't meet emission rules for 72 so they pulled it very early in production.

Larry




here,'s another tag

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Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 07:47 PM

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For those that have asked here is the fender tag.
Larry




Does the G in The VON have any significance?



The G is for a Factory sunroof car.

Larry
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 08:06 PM

This does not bode well for Dan--he's been on a desperate search for that ONE buyer out there.

What if that ONE buyer likes the RoadRunner?
Posted By: keith airgrabber

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 08:48 PM

I heard a story of a guy who lived in Hawaii. He ordered a six pack brand new.Upon delivery his car was a 4-barrel GTX option. I wonder how many people had this happen out of the 672 GTX cars

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Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 08:49 PM

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I heard a story of a guy who lived in Hawaii. He ordered a six pack brand new.Upon delivery his car was a 4-barrel GTX option. I wonder how many people had this happen out of the 672 GTX cars




In my searches in the 80's and 90's I have heard that story a lot.

Larry
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 08:54 PM

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I heard a story of a guy who lived in Hawaii. He ordered a six pack brand new.Upon delivery his car was a 4-barrel GTX option. I wonder how many people had this happen out of the 672 GTX cars




In my searches in the 80's and 90's I have heard that story a lot.

Larry




Seems like that would have (and maybe did?) resulted in some dealer installed 72 six packs???
Posted By: keith airgrabber

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 09:05 PM

cool car man, I have one of the 219 also. Mine is Winchester silver With air grabber and hood and decklid stripes. Bought it from aguy who told me it was a Satellite. He had no clue.
Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 09:30 PM

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cool car man, I have one of the 219 also. Mine is Winchester silver With air grabber and hood and decklid stripes. Bought it from aguy who told me it was a Satellite. He had no clue.




There is, or was, a close twin in Port Orange FL. Original owner, RR/GTX, GA4, N96 and the twin stripes, bench seat, 4spd.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 09:39 PM

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This does not bode well for Dan--he's been on a desperate search for that ONE buyer out there.

What if that ONE buyer likes the RoadRunner?




what chou talkin' bout willis?...the 2 RAREST V- CODES ON THE PLANET being talked about..where's the bad for me??...
Posted By: wasacuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 09:55 PM

Who says he has to restore it I would put it back together and run her as she is!
Posted By: nakita7

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 10:44 PM

I must say, I do get a kick out of this 'WIW'...

Can someone intelligently explain to me, how you come up with a value for a one of one (at this point) car, that, while worth more than Larry paid for it 17 years ago, has no particular value today? $20K, $40K, 150K...really? An object is only worth, what someone is willing to pay for it. Period.

The only true test to see what this car is 'worth', is a NO RESERVE auction, and let the fur fly. Larry may, or may not want to do this, but that will show, in any market, what THAT market is willing to pay. Again period.

I do have the ad looking for a V-code car. I want to thank those of you who have sent me emails letting me know about Larry's ad. I have recently talked to him, and I also talked to him several years ago about the car. Larry has no more of an idea as to what the car is worth, anymore that any of you, Galen Govier or the King of Spain does for that matter. This one is really subjective. As someone who has been into Mopars for a very long time, it saddens me that this 'hobby' has become a business, because those of us who truly like these cars get sickened by all the arm-chair stock brokers looking to cash in on stuff like this, but...there's not much I can do about that. Let's see what happens here...
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 10:47 PM

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If the '72 Road Runner was mine, I would sit down and figure out what it would cost to restore it properly. Then double that number. Hopefully the Superbird could be sold to cover that number. Sell the Superbird to finance the '72 resto and have some cash left over as a cushion if the restoration runs over budget.




There is no way I would sell a nice superbird driver in order to restore a non-numbers 72 bbody.........granted the 72 is rare, but all that makes it stand out is a V in the VIN......the superbird is known all over the world as the ultimate muscle car.......if single i would mortgage everything to get one to enjoy for a year or two...then recoup my money and have the memories!

Besides...can you really prove without a doubt that a 72 V code was actually made....that the VIN/tag is not an error? what does galen say on it? surely a car like that has been eyeballed by the guru?




Who are you trying to kid ,everything you touch ends up for sale and you come right out and say that is what you do right in your reply ...

The VIN tag as an error ?? , explain the fendertag then , if the fendertag had an E86 on then this scenario you keep trying to pass off would be more believable.

What happened , did you get beat out of this car in the past ?
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 11:28 PM

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I must say, I do get a kick out of this 'WIW'...

Can someone intelligently explain to me, how you come up with a value for a one of one (at this point) car, that, while worth more than Larry paid for it 17 years ago, has no particular value today? $20K, $40K, 150K...really? An object is only worth, what someone is willing to pay for it. Period.

The only true test to see what this car is 'worth', is a NO RESERVE auction, and let the fur fly. Larry may, or may not want to do this, but that will show, in any market, what THAT market is willing to pay. Again period.

I do have the ad looking for a V-code car. I want to thank those of you who have sent me emails letting me know about Larry's ad. I have recently talked to him, and I also talked to him several years ago about the car. Larry has no more of an idea as to what the car is worth, anymore that any of you, Galen Govier or the King of Spain does for that matter. This one is really subjective. As someone who has been into Mopars for a very long time, it saddens me that this 'hobby' has become a business, because those of us who truly like these cars get sickened by all the arm-chair stock brokers looking to cash in on stuff like this, but...there's not much I can do about that. Let's see what happens here...




Or he could try a dutch auction and pull the plug before the end

Seriously he asked a question on value? Why does he have to list it to sell WITHOUT a reserve, especially at this time of the year. That would be pretty risky. Now if he had to sell that would be different thing altogether.

Since you were looking who better to ask..."what would you pay"?

Dave
Posted By: keith airgrabber

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/18/11 11:59 PM

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cool car man, I have one of the 219 also. Mine is Winchester silver With air grabber and hood and decklid stripes. Bought it from aguy who told me it was a Satellite. He had no clue.




There is, or was, a close twin in Port Orange FL. Original owner, RR/GTX, GA4, N96 and the twin stripes, bench seat, 4spd. Yeah mine is a console car
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 12:05 AM

LIKE ME and MY 70 V code's.. larry "IS" the MARKET on these 72 cars.. you HAVE NO CHOICE where to buy one!... so "IF" you want ONE ..I SUGGEST YOU GET OUT YOUR WALLET'S BOYS!... nuff said.. dan
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 12:26 AM

cool car,, how many produced??

and those prices, of 30k plus?? are NUTs for a 1972 No engine or trans car....
12-15 tops... its still a 1972.
Posted By: RJS

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 12:38 AM

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LIKE ME and MY 70 V code's.. larry "IS" the MARKET on these 72 cars.. you HAVE NO CHOICE where to buy one!... so "IF" you want ONE ..I SUGGEST YOU GET OUT YOUR WALLET'S BOYS!... nuff said.. dan




That is serious wishful thinking on your part.
No one has stepped up to your ridiculous prices yet right??
Doubt anyone ever will too.
As far as this 72 Runner why should the price be 40K???
Why not just put 100K on it and call it a day?
There seems to be a real buyer out there for this car but when a crazy # is put on an item and then all the people that don't have a dime in their pockets concur said car never sells.

Unfortunately Larry isn't the market, the one guy that buy's it is!

Oh Love the car by the way!!!! Ron
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 12:39 AM

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There used to be a 72 V code Runner in the Mt Airey NC area in the late 80's.Somewhere I have the VIN #.




I would like to see a photo of the fender tag or dash tag. I alway thought more would show up but up till now only stories.

Larry
Posted By: RJS

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 12:47 AM

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There used to be a 72 V code Runner in the Mt Airey NC area in the late 80's.Somewhere I have the VIN #.




I would like to see a photo of the fender tag or dash tag. I alway thought more would show up but up till now only stories.

Larry




I was at an all Mopar show at a Connecticut Dealership 15-20 years ago when a guy showed up with a 72 Road Runner 440/6 in Hemi Orange.
Don't remember which trans. Went over to talk to him because the car was done real nice for the time but what I en-counted was a covered Vin plate and one of the most nasty A-Holes. Never found out the true story but judging by his attitude I'd say 4bbl car.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 12:50 AM

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LIKE ME and MY 70 V code's.. larry "IS" the MARKET on these 72 cars.. you HAVE NO CHOICE where to buy one!... so "IF" you want ONE ..I SUGGEST YOU GET OUT YOUR WALLET'S BOYS!... nuff said.. dan




That is serious wishful thinking on your part.
No one has stepped up to your ridiculous prices yet right??
Doubt anyone ever will too.
As far as this 72 Runner why should the price be 40K???
Why not just put 100K on it and call it a day?
There seems to be a real buyer out there for this car but when a crazy # is put on an item and then all the people that don't have a dime in their pockets concur said car never sells.

Unfortunately Larry isn't the market, the one guy that buy's it is!

Oh Love the car by the way!!!! Ron





well "IF" larry isn't the market then i guess you could go alway's go buy someone else's 72 V code RR...
Posted By: chrisf

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 02:03 AM

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I must say, I do get a kick out of this 'WIW'...

Can someone intelligently explain to me, how you come up with a value for a one of one (at this point) car, that, while worth more than Larry paid for it 17 years ago, has no particular value today? $20K, $40K, 150K...really? An object is only worth, what someone is willing to pay for it. Period.

The only true test to see what this car is 'worth', is a NO RESERVE auction, and let the fur fly. Larry may, or may not want to do this, but that will show, in any market, what THAT market is willing to pay. Again period.

I do have the ad looking for a V-code car. I want to thank those of you who have sent me emails letting me know about Larry's ad. I have recently talked to him, and I also talked to him several years ago about the car. Larry has no more of an idea as to what the car is worth, anymore that any of you, Galen Govier or the King of Spain does for that matter. This one is really subjective. As someone who has been into Mopars for a very long time, it saddens me that this 'hobby' has become a business, because those of us who truly like these cars get sickened by all the arm-chair stock brokers looking to cash in on stuff like this, but...there's not much I can do about that. Let's see what happens here...




spoken like a guy who would buy it and have it listed here for sale 6 months later for a profit.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 02:55 AM

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I must say, I do get a kick out of this 'WIW'...

Can someone intelligently explain to me, how you come up with a value for a one of one....?




I'LL tell ya how... you [THE SELLER} pick a number you feel would be ENOUGH $$$ to make you [THE SELLER] let it go...simple as that.. IF a BUYER wants one and you have the ONLY 1 AVAILABLE.... NUFF SAID..
Posted By: Kidsixpack

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 02:58 AM

I believe that the market for this car in this condition is very limited. I'm sure that there are some serious collectors out there that don't frequent moparts. I would list it on Ebay with a reserve and a phone #. It may take a couple of listings, but you will find a buyer.
KID
Posted By: pinkduster

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:04 AM

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12-15 tops... its still a 1972.





OUCH! That's gonna' leave a mark.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:10 AM

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12-15 tops... its still a 1972.





OUCH! That's gonna' leave a mark.




No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that
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No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




Then I guess you already have a ballpark as to what the car may be worth?
KID
Posted By: hemigod426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:28 AM

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No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




no chit? you were offered this lately 15kx3=$45,000 and you did not sell, how much are you holding out for?how much do you think its worth you gotta have a #, i guessed 20k now would be like 30-40k project 2004-2007 times
Posted By: pinkduster

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:33 AM

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OUCH! That's gonna' leave a mark.




No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




Moparlar, I didn't mean that as a dig on you or your car. Just though it was a pretty ignorant reply even considering that I'm not a fan of the 72 model. $12-15k doesn't get you much in ANY 71/72 Road Runner. To think this car is only worth that much is crazy.
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:34 AM

Hi Larry,

I've been a fan of the 72s for the past 39 years ever since my father bought a 72 Satellite new. I'd love to see more pictures of your car.

As Moparphilll commented, some of those that would be interested may not be in a good position if they have to sell some cars to put together the money. I'd love to make an offer but that's the position I'm in. I have a survivor 72 Runner (black with gold stripe) that would take some time to sell.

As others have suggested, eBay would be the best way to market this car. A high reserve, your phone number and plenty of good detailed pictures along with a full description would help quite a bit.

Here's a link to a 72 RR/GTX that sold back in January for $121,000.

http://members.rennlist.com/mountain914/gtx.html

Other than the six pack, this one seems pretty comparable options wise. Based on this, I would think the restored value of your car would be a fair bit more.

Does your car have any GTX badging on it? I'm curious if the decision to cancel the GTX model and make it an option combined with the 440 on Runners was made after your car was built?

Good luck Larry, please list the auction here if you decide to go that route.

Mike.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:42 AM

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No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




no chit? you were offered this lately 15kx3=$45,000 and you did not sell, how much are you holding out for?how much do you think its worth you gotta have a #, i guessed 20k now would be like 30-40k project 2004-2007 times




REMEMBER: YOU ARE DEALING with a car YOU SIMPLY CAN'T BUY ANYWHERE ELSE.. this changes the entire game!
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:46 AM

Moparmike Did you buy his off of Jeff Johnson? He had a black survivor 340 auto car that he sold a while back.
Posted By: hemigod426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:52 AM

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No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




no chit? you were offered this lately 15kx3=$45,000 and you did not sell, how much are you holding out for?how much do you think its worth you gotta have a #, i guessed 20k now would be like 30-40k project 2004-2007 times




REMEMBER: YOU ARE DEALING with a car YOU SIMPLY CAN'T BUY ANYWHERE ELSE.. this changes the entire game!


yes i understand supply and demand, thats what old mopars are all about. if it was 4 speed,dana car with console and pistol grip i could get really excited and say 40k as is. i know they made more than one heard about them for years.it would be nice to say you have it but id rather buy a-12 bee or v-code gtx if its crazy $$
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:59 AM

Give me an a12 f6 4 speed Road Runner any day for that kind of money.
Posted By: nakita7

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:01 AM

30 years ago, when I started into Mopars, these cars were literally myths. Trust me, been looking for one that long, seriously. The 72 Charger Rallye is my favourite Charger, and the 72 Roadrunner is by far the coolest, and my personal favourite. I gave up hope of finding a V-code one a long time ago, because they simply never surfaced.

My advice Larry, sell it whoever wants it the most...not sure how you'll determine that, but throwing my two cents in, I would personally HATE to see this car sold, restored, flipped a couple times, on the cover of a Mopar Magazine, flipped a couple more times, and then put on a barge to a foreign 'collector' who couldn't tell you what the word 'Plymouth' means, but "Just had to have it!"...

That would just be sad, imho.
Posted By: 69superbee383

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:11 AM

Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:17 AM

I have to say something here, I bought my first Mopar when I was 20, It was a 73 Satellite that I bought off a dealer used car lot from a friend I knew who was a salesman there. Not long after getting that car painted and selling it I bought the first of many 72 B-bodies. After that I was hooked, Don't ask me why 72's it just happened. So as a 72 owner you want the best 72 you could get, therefore as far as literature was concerned it would have to be a 72 6 pack car. Little did I know that was a very hard car to find. I would check every 72 RR I saw and could never find one. At the Nats in the early 80's I walked by Galens booth and saw his paper for a 72 6 pack registry, so I asked him about them. That is when he informed me that he had only found 1 RR and 2 Chargers. Needles to say that sorta takes the wind out of your sails. I stayed in contact with Galen just in case another car turned up. None did, 1 Day I get home from work and my then present wife said Galen called and I needed to call him. I said I had enough cars and didn't need another one. At the time I had the Superbird, a 72 400 Sky Blue RR that I had restored that you night have seen in magazines, I had a Black 72 440 RR/GTX and I has a General Lee from the TV show. She then told me that the 6 pack car was for sale. Of course I called, That weekend a very good friend of mine that worked for an airline flew down and took pictures. When he got back it was all I could do waiting for the pics from the photo store to be developed. Needless to say we struck a deal, people told me I was crazy paying that much for the car, I didn't care. It was my DREAM car and I wasn't missing it. I knew he had already sent in for sale adds to Hemmings and MCG and possibly more so I paid him what he was asking. I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago, I have had a few people who know about the car and a couple of them stay in touch if I ever wanted to get rid of it. I asked how much it is worth because sometimes lately I am not sure I will ever do the car. To be honest I have turned down $35,000 more than once in the past 10 years and at that price I am not losing money. It has never been about the money. Even now if I do decide to sell the car it might not go to the highest bidder, it might go to who I think will restore the car the way it deserves.

As far as being a 72 Well It is still the last built Mopar 6 pack car known to exist. I have heard all the stories about other cars, I chased them for years, no one to this day has shown me a fendar tag or Dash VIN Tag that shows me there is another one.

Ok Flame on, give me your best shot.

Larry
Posted By: hemigod426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:26 AM

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I have to say something here, I bought my first Mopar when I was 20, It was a 73 Satellite that I bought off a dealer used car lot from a friend I knew who was a salesman there. Not long after getting that car painted and selling it I bought the first of many 72 B-bodies. After that I was hooked, Don't ask me why 72's it just happened. So as a 72 owner you want the best 72 you could get, therefore as far as literature was concerned it would have to be a 72 6 pack car. Little did I know that was a very hard car to find. I would check every 72 RR I saw and could never find one. At the Nats in the early 80's I walked by Galens booth and saw his paper for a 72 6 pack registry, so I asked him about them. That is when he informed me that he had only found 1 RR and 2 Chargers. Needles to say that sorta takes the wind out of your sails. I stayed in contact with Galen just in case another car turned up. None did, 1 Day I get home from work and my then present wife said Galen called and I needed to call him. I said I had enough cars and didn't need another one. At the time I had the Superbird, a 72 400 Sky Blue RR that I had restored that you night have seen in magazines, I had a Black 72 440 RR/GTX and I has a General Lee from the TV show. She then told me that the 6 pack car was for sale. Of course I called, That weekend a very good friend of mine that worked for an airline flew down and took pictures. When he got back it was all I could do waiting for the pics from the photo store to be developed. Needless to say we struck a deal, people told me I was crazy paying that much for the car, I didn't care. It was my DREAM car and I wasn't missing it. I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago, I have had a few people who know about the car and a couple of them stay in touch if I ever wanted to get rid of it. I asked how much it is worth because sometimes lately I am not sure I will ever do the car. TO be honest I have turned down $35,000 more than once in the past 10 years. It has never been about the money. Even now if I do decide to sell the car it might not go to the highest bidder, it might go to who I think will restore the car the way it deserves.

As far as being a 72 Well It is still the last built Mopar 6 pack car known to exist. I have heard all the stories about other cars, I chased them for years, no one to this day has shown me a fendar tag or Dash VIN Tag that shows me there is another one.

Ok Flame on, give me your best shot.

Larry


GREAT STORY always good to hear another real mopar nut and how it hit ya, yes this car needs to get done and good home in the usa
Posted By: NTOLERANCE

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:34 AM

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I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago,

Larry




Says it all..(no not the divorced part)...

Time for the car to go.

Not flaming or judging, just my observation.
My first car was 72 Sat. I know they draw they can have...
Posted By: EWJ

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:34 AM

Larry: Been reading/following this since the post started.

All I can say is that your and nakita7's point as to whom it should be offered to is spot-on: someone who wants the car for themself, and what it represents, should be the next owner/caretaker. It's the absolute end of an era- and should be cared for accordingly.
Posted By: nakita7

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:39 AM

Nice story Larry. You understand the 'passion'. Dan does too, with his V-code Furys. Hope they go to the right people too!!!

I've had people literally laughing at me with my 'puke green' (it was J6 lime) 71 Roadrunner. Owning 71 R/T's many years ago, when they weren't 'cool' and goofs saying that I need to sell it and get a 'real' Charger R/T (they meant a 68/69). Selling my rough 68 Charger many years ago to a body shop, just because they needed something to "Flip and make some money".

BTW: My first car was a 72 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus, 318, column auto, two-tone pale yellow with silver on the bottom. My mom bought it, off a used car lot, for me when I was 16 for $150. Yes, $150 bucks. It was a piece of crap, but it ran and I drove it till I could get a Roadrunner, and I thought it was so cool because it was a "Sebring Plus", which are much cooler than 'regular' Satellites!!!
Posted By: Golden-Arm

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:50 AM

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what chou talkin' bout willis?...the 2 RAREST V- CODES ON THE PLANET being talked about..where's the bad for me??...




not to rain on your parade, but with over 60 v coded fury gt's made, and less than 5 1972 v coded b bodies made, how exactly does the land barge count as one of "the 2 rarest v codes on the planet"? the other runner v code would be rarer, as would the 2 or three chargers. much rarer v code numbers before the gt. then the road runner converts, cuda converts, coronet converts. i'm just saying......

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Posted By: gatorgrain

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 04:51 AM

When it comes to Roadrunners this 72 6/pk surely must be considered the Pintacle of all Roadrunners ever made, the greatest-grandest last one of them all. Hopefully someone will buy this irreguarded roadrunner immediately somehow and perform its well deserved proper restoration, instead of being Garaged forever...
Posted By: hemigod426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:03 AM

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what chou talkin' bout willis?...the 2 RAREST V- CODES ON THE PLANET being talked about..where's the bad for me??...




not to rain on your parade, but with over 60 v coded fury gt's made, and less than 5 1972 v coded b bodies made, how exactly does the land barge count as one of "the 2 rarest v codes on the planet"? the other runner v code would be rarer, as would the 2 or three chargers. much rarer v code numbers before the gt. i'm just saying......


his fury v-codes are rarer now,big black guy in city of buffalo owns bens auto parts ran 3 v-code furys threw the chrusher first torched out the motors, no chit yes 3 v-code fury gt cars. old guy in our area collected all the ones in wny he died wife called bens...
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:03 AM

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Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?




you can do the SAME THING with a REAL ONE!.. i do IT ALL THE TIME as ALL MINE ARE THE REAL DEAL!.... DRAG RACING my 19K mile hemi car on friday nights 13:20@105 stone stock.. and they are WORTH BIG BUCKS.. unlike another WITHOUT the little INSIGNIFICANT VIN CODE..! nuff said..
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:08 AM

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No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




no chit? you were offered this lately 15kx3=$45,000 and you did not sell, how much are you holding out for?how much do you think its worth you gotta have a #, i guessed 20k now would be like 30-40k project 2004-2007 times




REMEMBER: YOU ARE DEALING with a car YOU SIMPLY CAN'T BUY ANYWHERE ELSE.. this changes the entire game!


yes i understand supply and demand, thats what old mopars are all about. if it was 4 speed,dana car with console and pistol grip i could get really excited and say 40k as is. i know they made more than one heard about them for years.it would be nice to say you have it but id rather buy a-12 bee or v-code gtx if its crazy $$




AIN'T it great to live in a country where you have choices!..... point your gun any direction you will hit 10-20 of the cars listed above FOR SALE!...and half that many at EVERY CAR SHOW.... how many V code 72 cars you gonna see....?
Posted By: jon01

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:08 AM

You really come across like a crass snob there Dan.

Not everyone can afford to/wants to wrap up big bucks in an original hemi/6bbl car so they build their own. Doesn't mean they're any less fun.

As to the OP - I'd dress it up some and put it on Ebay with a healthy reserve. That's the easiest way to set a true WIW.
I can't put a value on a one of one car, there's nothing else to base that value on.
Posted By: ply64post

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:11 AM

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i would say 30k minimum actual sale.. 40k asking $$$.. .broadcast sheet? how rusty is it?.. i know the feeling lar.. cool car.. my fury and that car would be a sight for sore eye,s at a show... dan




Actually they would be sore eyes for the crusher !!
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:16 AM

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what chou talkin' bout willis?...the 2 RAREST V- CODES ON THE PLANET being talked about..where's the bad for me??...




not to rain on your parade, but with over 60 v coded fury gt's made, and less than 5 1972 v coded b bodies made, how exactly does the land barge count as one of "the 2 rarest v codes on the planet"? the other runner v code would be rarer, as would the 2 or three chargers. much rarer v code numbers before the gt. then the road runner converts, cuda converts, coronet converts. i'm just saying......





at this point in the game you are grouping my V code furies in with V- code B/E body convertibles... yes some of those are MORE RARE THAN MINE...and 5-10 times as EXPENSIVE.. so THANKS!
Posted By: 69superbee383

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:17 AM

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Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?




you can do the SAME THING with a REAL ONE!.. i do IT ALL THE TIME as ALL MINE ARE THE REAL DEAL!.... DRAG RACING my 19K mile hemi car on friday nights 13:20@105 stone stock.. and they are WORTH BIG BUCKS.. unlike another WITHOUT the little INSIGNIFICANT VIN CODE..! nuff said..




I could care less about the VIN codes. They are all the real deal. A Satellite with a 440 6 bbl shoved into it with decent running gear is every but as fun to drive as one that came with the "proper " letter in the VIN. My 70 Coronet is supposedly a " 1 of 1 " car. Why? I guess because no one else wanted to buy one like it. Rare? I guess. Popular. Hardly. Valuable? To me it is. To others who cares?

If I wanted an investment I would buy gold. I wanted fun so I bought Mopars. I dont expect to make a dime off them. All I want to do is have fun with them and leave the high dollar stuff and the cat fights that go along with them to others.

I do admit the long time debates over the font of the engine stamps, what fender tag is real or fake or how much spray paint should be on a battery ground cable is entertaining.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:49 AM

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You really come across like a crass snob there Dan.

Not everyone can afford to/wants to wrap up big bucks in an original hemi/6bbl car so they build their own. Doesn't mean they're any less fun.

As to the OP - I'd dress it up some and put it on Ebay with a healthy reserve. That's the easiest way to set a true WIW.
I can't put a value on a one of one car, there's nothing else to base that value on.




NO WHERE did i say it wasn't OK to build a clone or hot rod..i was REPLYING to this line

[Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap.]...

so is he a CRASS REAL CAR SNOB then?
Posted By: quick77rt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 07:57 AM

Nice 72 Wish I had the funds, it is the end of a wonderful era.

Now Dan, im sorry I wish I had the coin to buy your junk just so it would stop getting rammed down our throats in almost eveything you post on. The crap gets old, give it a rest, stash the rustbucket for another 5 years then come back out with the BS.

You got a rare car that clearly no one here wants, start spamming other countries....your V code junk is worn out here. Be proud of your car, im proud of alot of things but I dont ram it up your [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], so please stop ramming your v code car up ours.

But back to the 72, dam I wish I had the funds...growing up the 72 v code was an unproven myth.....Dans is a proven nightmare before christmas, and still will be next christmas and the one after that...
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:32 AM

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I have to say something here, I bought my first Mopar when I was 20, It was a 73 Satellite that I bought off a dealer used car lot from a friend I knew who was a salesman there. Not long after getting that car painted and selling it I bought the first of many 72 B-bodies. After that I was hooked, Don't ask me why 72's it just happened. So as a 72 owner you want the best 72 you could get, therefore as far as literature was concerned it would have to be a 72 6 pack car. Little did I know that was a very hard car to find. I would check every 72 RR I saw and could never find one. At the Nats in the early 80's I walked by Galens booth and saw his paper for a 72 6 pack registry, so I asked him about them. That is when he informed me that he had only found 1 RR and 2 Chargers. Needles to say that sorta takes the wind out of your sails. I stayed in contact with Galen just in case another car turned up. None did, 1 Day I get home from work and my then present wife said Galen called and I needed to call him. I said I had enough cars and didn't need another one. At the time I had the Superbird, a 72 400 Sky Blue RR that I had restored that you night have seen in magazines, I had a Black 72 440 RR/GTX and I has a General Lee from the TV show. She then told me that the 6 pack car was for sale. Of course I called, That weekend a very good friend of mine that worked for an airline flew down and took pictures. When he got back it was all I could do waiting for the pics from the photo store to be developed. Needless to say we struck a deal, people told me I was crazy paying that much for the car, I didn't care. It was my DREAM car and I wasn't missing it. I knew he had already sent in for sale adds to Hemmings and MCG and possibly more so I paid him what he was asking. I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago, I have had a few people who know about the car and a couple of them stay in touch if I ever wanted to get rid of it. I asked how much it is worth because sometimes lately I am not sure I will ever do the car. To be honest I have turned down $35,000 more than once in the past 10 years and at that price I am not losing money. It has never been about the money. Even now if I do decide to sell the car it might not go to the highest bidder, it might go to who I think will restore the car the way it deserves.

As far as being a 72 Well It is still the last built Mopar 6 pack car known to exist. I have heard all the stories about other cars, I chased them for years, no one to this day has shown me a fendar tag or Dash VIN Tag that shows me there is another one.

Ok Flame on, give me your best shot.

Larry




Hi Larry,

well said.
I would try ebay.com (high reserve, phonenumber) as well as hemmings and see what kind of serious reactions you get. Make sure it gets spread around that the car is available. At the end of the day you will know what the best offer or best potential buyer for the car is. And if it is the time to let it go or not. I am sure you will do the right decision.

Good luck

Carsten
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:41 AM

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Thank you for bashing foreigners, Mr.Canada.
Be sure that europeans who buy and import any six-pack/hemicar know exactly what they are doing. A die hard enthusiast group and for sure not flippers as there is no way to make money with those cars overhere.

Carsten
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 02:35 PM

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Besides...can you really prove without a doubt that a 72 V code was actually made....that the VIN/tag is not an error? what does galen say on it? surely a car like that has been eyeballed by the guru?




Galen is the one who lead me to the car when it came up for sale. It is the real deal. No question.

Wonder why the guru didn't grab it, hype it up and sell it?

Larry


Posted By: NewbombTurkk

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 02:40 PM

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12-15 tops... its still a 1972.





OUCH! That's gonna' leave a mark.




No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that





$45K....I would've sold it no doubt....not having the original motor really hurts it...........

Bottom line is...if you want bragging rights to a rare mopar like that 72, pony up the dough and bring it back to life.......nothing is more awesome than an air grabber opening up!
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 03:33 PM

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When it comes to Roadrunners this 72 6/pk surely must be considered the Pintacle of all Roadrunners ever made, the greatest-grandest last one of them all. Hopefully someone will buy this irreguarded roadrunner immediately somehow and perform its well deserved proper restoration, instead of being Garaged forever...





I don't get this line of thinking....

All this car represents(in my eyes) is just a trickling on of the 71's..I just don't get the whole mystique about it.. That doesn't really mean too much to me, frankly. To put this car in a higher category than a bad ass A12 car or a hemi car in my eyes is just silly. But that's just me and my opinion. Yes, the lack of the orig motor hurts it.

I remember a few years ago I saw a 1967 Coronet440 hemi car that was a factory car. The guy was selling it for about the same price as a 67 Hemi R/T. No one was jumping to buy it. How rare was it? How about a 1 of 1. It doesn't get any more rare than that.

On the other hand cars like the 70 Charger500 Hemi car is very special. Its a 1 of 1. Its a promo car. The vin is 100001. That type of stuff makes it for me. This 72 car is unique, but doesn't hold the same "it" for lack of a better word.

Get as much as you can for it, its a rare car nontheless.

MB
Posted By: Finoke

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:27 PM

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For those that have asked here is the fender tag.
Larry




Does the G in The VON have any significance?



The G is for a Factory sunroof car.

Larry




Wow, I missed that it had a sun roof too. Very nice
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:40 PM

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Most people will call me crazy , but I am in the same boat with the '72 V codes as I am with the 70 Sport Fury GT V code .
ULTRA ULTRA RARE , Very oddball, Highly misundersood and underestimated by the general population.
I'd say a rolling body, no engine, $ 40,000.
Cars like these are " showstoppers" aka museum trophy's and center pieces to car collections for the guy who wants to have something nobody else has got .
It's like having your own personal bigfoot in your garage , while everybody else just has the run of the mill chimpanzees .....

Greg




THIS pretty much SUMS IT UP..NUFF SAID..
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 05:44 PM


Hmm, interesting WIW. My comments;

- to anyone questioning this car; really? it has the original FT, VIN and door sticker and has been known for a long time.

- As far as '71's vs. '72's go, sure; GENERALLY '71's are worth more but that is mostly because of the Hemi and 440-6 availability, since this car HAS the 440-6 and it is basically the SAME car as a '71 only MUCH rarer, I'd say it is worth a substantial premium over a '71 V code RR.

- Ultimate B body? ....I don't think so; I'd reserve that for a Hemi car. Can't have an "ultimate: car with the "2nd ultimate" motor. Ultimate 440-6 car? well that depends on your preference; for those that like the '71-'72 body style the best, then sure.....for those that like the '68 - '70 cars better then no.

- Yes this car is missing the #'s motor and therefore is worth less than another '72 V code RR that retains the original motor! ....I've said it before; I don't get the value that people place on the #'s motor seeing as how the block is nothing special.......Fender tag is worth 100000 X more to me. not saying the #'s motor isn't worth something, but not as much as many seem to think (to me anyway)

- I would sell the Superbird and restore this car. Plan on spending $60 - $100k

- If I was to sell it, I would auction it off with a $40k reserve. Personally I think suggestions that this car is worth $15 - $20k are crazy given it's rarety and options.


Dave
Posted By: jon01

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:00 PM

Good logic employed thru all steps there Dave. I agree with your analysis and suggested method of sale.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:01 PM

Posted By: Aero426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:01 PM

Very neat car. I would probably sell the Superbird and restore the '72. If you sell the '72, you will probably never be able to go back. It's a one way trip. On the other hand, if you ultimately tire of the '72, you could always buy a Superbird back.

The only down side I can see to the '72 will be having to endure the "they never made it" and "it is real?" comments. It will never be the magnet for attention that the Superbird is out in public away from a Mopar show. But the '72 is cool enough to be able to say you're the only guy on the block that has one. We seem to apply price premiums to "first" and "last" cars. This is definitely one of those special cars.
Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:19 PM

If you're not in a rush to sell, I would sell for no less than $90k.

If you had a broadcast sheet, it could sell for $120k as-is IMHO.

It may take awhile to sell, but who cares? You're not in a rush, right?
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:36 PM

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Most people will call me crazy , but I am in the same boat with the '72 V codes as I am with the 70 Sport Fury GT V code .
ULTRA ULTRA RARE , Very oddball, Highly misundersood and underestimated by the general population.
I'd say a rolling body, no engine, $ 40,000.
Cars like these are " showstoppers" aka museum trophy's and center pieces to car collections for the guy who wants to have something nobody else has got .
It's like having your own personal bigfoot in your garage , while everybody else just has the run of the mill chimpanzees .....

Greg




THIS pretty much SUMS IT UP..NUFF SAID..




Yup, your BOTH crazy for sure. Give me a "run of the mill" chimp '70 hemicuda anyday over either one of those cars. The '72 V-code car would be a neat one to own for sure, but to me, it is still a '72 which marked the end of the excitement and the beginning of those awful generic side markers
Posted By: bohmer2

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 06:46 PM

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- I would sell the Superbird and restore this car. Plan on spending $60 - $100k





I agree this car would be amazing restored by why does everyone seem to feel it will take double the money to restore this car over any other 72 RR?

It looks pretty solid, the 6pck parts are what I would consider the hard part to acquire are late date code 71 6 pack parts that difficult to acquire?

There might even be some 70 C-body V-code parts that could be put to better use restoring this car than some other basket case.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 07:14 PM

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There might even be some 70 C-body V-code parts that could be put to better use restoring this car than some other basket case.




maybe like on this one?

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Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 07:43 PM

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Most people will call me crazy , but I am in the same boat with the '72 V codes as I am with the 70 Sport Fury GT V code .
ULTRA ULTRA RARE , Very oddball, Highly misundersood and underestimated by the general population.
I'd say a rolling body, no engine, $ 40,000.
Cars like these are " showstoppers" aka museum trophy's and center pieces to car collections for the guy who wants to have something nobody else has got .
It's like having your own personal bigfoot in your garage , while everybody else just has the run of the mill chimpanzees .....

Greg




THIS pretty much SUMS IT UP..NUFF SAID..




It does for the car that is the subject of this thread , the OTHER one ... not so much .
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 07:48 PM

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12-15 tops... its still a 1972.





OUCH! That's gonna' leave a mark.




No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




no chit? you were offered this lately 15kx3=$45,000 and you did not sell, how much are you holding out for?how much do you think its worth you gotta have a #, i guessed 20k now would be like 30-40k project 2004-2007 times




REMEMBER: YOU ARE DEALING with a car YOU SIMPLY CAN'T BUY ANYWHERE ELSE.. this changes the entire game!




Your V code c bodies are the perfect example of supply vs. Demand , you have the SUPPLY , there is NO DEMAND ...
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 08:09 PM

There is NO MARKET for those C-bodies. I say he puts them on Ebay and let the market decide like he said about the 72 v code rr. I doubt he will do it.
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 08:35 PM

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There is NO MARKET for those C-bodies. I say he puts them on Ebay and let the market decide like he said about the 72 v code rr. I doubt he will do it.




about putting the Fury's on ebay.
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 08:45 PM

How about we don't make this thread into another one about Dan's Furys?



Dave
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 08:51 PM

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by why does everyone seem to feel it will take double the money to restore this car over any other 72 RR?






I don't. To be clear; I believe that a proper rotisserie, every nut and bolt, farmed out to someone that knows what they are doing, resto costs that much no matter WHAT car you are talking about. Other than some rare parts that some cars have and a +/- for rust repair, the cost to restore a car doesn't vary much from model to model.

You can "fix up" this car for less, but not restore it properly IMO. I think it's rare enough to deserve a real resto.


Dave
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 08:52 PM

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Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?




I would suggest that the car which is the subject of this thread isn't for you then.

Dave
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:00 PM

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It looks pretty solid, the 6pck parts are what I would consider the hard part to acquire are late date code 71 6 pack parts that difficult to acquire?





Funny thing is I have been collecting parts so long I have a complete set of NOS carbs for the car date coded 1411. SO things like that I had already. I probably have all the 72 unique stuff in NOS for the car, Grille, Tailight assemblies, Header Emblem, Dash Bezel and Passenger Dash Bezel. Stuff like that

Larry
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:03 PM

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How about we don't make this thread into another one about Dan's Furys?



Dave




TOO LATE.... unfortunately cars like OUR's bring out the WORST in some people..it's simply because they would really like to have one but can't because we want top $$$ and they simply can't afford one..and the FACT that there is NO OTHER'S out there to buy... catch 22
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:04 PM

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It looks pretty solid, the 6pck parts are what I would consider the hard part to acquire are late date code 71 6 pack parts that difficult to acquire?





Funny thing is I have been collecting parts so long I have a complete set of NOS carbs for the car date coded 1411. SO things like that I had already. I probably have all the 72 unique stuff in NOS for the car, Grille, Tailight assemblies, Header Emblem, Dash Bezel and Passenger Dash Bezel. Stuff like that

Larry




sound's EXACTLY like me lar x3..hahahaha dan
Posted By: jon01

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:12 PM

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TOO LATE.... unfortunately cars like OUR's bring out the WORST in some people..it's simply because they would really like to have one but can't because we want top $$$ and they simply can't afford one..and the FACT that there is NO OTHER'S out there to buy... catch 22




Your C bodies and Larry's car are in no way shape or form comparable.
Larry's car is actually desirable and will bring big bucks should he decide to sell it.
Yours are nowhere near as desirable and despite your best efforts to drum up tons of hype will never be worth near what Larry's will be. They will forever be something that people pass by, give it an 'eh, that's neat', then move on to look at the Charger or Cuda that's down the line.
But, you'll never realize that there is a difference between rare and valuable - see JohnRR's post.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:19 PM

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How about we don't make this thread into another one about Dan's Furys?



Dave




TOO LATE.... unfortunately cars like OUR's bring out the WORST in some people..




Were you looking in the mirror when typing that ?

Posted By: nomore65BelvJim

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:23 PM

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How about we don't make this thread into another one about Dan's Furys?



Dave




Dream big Dave, dream big

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Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:48 PM

My kids moved one of the 71's right next to it so all I could was get closeups, but here is some pics.

Quarter panel in front and behind tire

Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:50 PM

Top of quarter window

Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 09:55 PM

And last but not least dash vin and door sticker

Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:00 PM

notice the '71 style door sticker ..... is this typical of an early '72 car?

What's the date code on the K-frame?

BTW
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:02 PM

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notice the '71 style door sticker ..... is this typical of an early '72 car?

What's the date code on the K-frame?

BTW



I have had a Late september car that had the same sticker,
Not sure wen they went to the new style. As far as the date code never looked.

LArry
Posted By: b54406barrel

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:27 PM

Contentious thread for a very cool car! Sorry, no clue on value. I’ve seen wing car's at almost every mopar show I’ve ever gone to. How many times have I seen the last 6bbl? Not so much. I’d walk right by a wing car to see that. And, I'm not a numbers guy & I don’t even particularly like that body style.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:38 PM

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And for Dan,keep your finger off the caps key,we all know you are trying to make a point,and still nobody wants your car,not even you !!




i have them..YOU DON'T...and you know as well as anyone if any of my 3 were done they would be the CROWD FAVORITE at any show...
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:40 PM

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wow! ODD RUST up that high... i think there's more rust hiding on the car than can be seen.. i bet mine and larry's are much closer condition wise than meets the eye.. mine just has its clothes off! hahahahha.. dan
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 10:44 PM

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wow! ODD RUST up that high... i think there's more rust hiding on the car than can be seen.. i bet mine and larry's are much closer condition wise than meets the eye.. mine just has its clothes off! hahahahha.. dan




That rust is from the belt moulding clips. there should be moulding there

Larry
Posted By: jon01

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 11:04 PM

Dan -><-Rest of Moparts
Posted By: MachoMan

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 11:09 PM

my ?

i CAN'T wait to see it restored.
Posted By: jon01

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/19/11 11:18 PM

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i CAN'T wait to see it restored.




Me either!

You have to applaud Larry for thinking about parting with it after all these years since he realized he probably won't get around to it. Most folks would never sell a car like that.
Posted By: RangerDan440

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 12:03 AM

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And for Dan,keep your finger off the caps key,we all know you are trying to make a point,and still nobody wants your car,not even you !!




i have them..YOU DON'T...and you know as well as anyone if any of my 3 were done they would be the CROWD FAVORITE at any show...




Dan, Im going to respectfully ask you to stop posting on every possible thread that you can about your Furys. Either sell them or dont, but for sale ads belong in the for sale section on Moparts. This is a thread about Moparlar's Road Runner, not you and your "cars."
Posted By: Aero426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 12:09 AM

Never mind...
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 12:12 AM

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And for Dan,keep your finger off the caps key,we all know you are trying to make a point,and still nobody wants your car,not even you !!




i have them..YOU DON'T...and you know as well as anyone if any of my 3 were done they would be the CROWD FAVORITE at any show...




Dan, Im going to respectfully ask you to stop posting on every possible thread that you can about your Furys. Either sell them or dont, but for sale ads belong in the for sale section on Moparts. This is a thread about Moparlar's Road Runner, not you and your "cars."





Thank You Lt Dan
Posted By: A0M397X

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 12:12 AM

I'm beginning to pity Dan. He reminds me of the obnoxious kid who can't get enough attention. Every post he relates to his car.
Posted By: Stewpar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 12:14 AM

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And for Dan,keep your finger off the caps key,we all know you are trying to make a point,and still nobody wants your car,not even you !!




i have them..YOU DON'T...and you know as well as anyone if any of my 3 were done they would be the CROWD FAVORITE at any show...




Dan, Im going to respectfully ask you to stop posting on every possible thread that you can about your Furys. Either sell them or dont, but for sale ads belong in the for sale section on Moparts. This is a thread about Moparlar's Road Runner, not you and your "cars."




Amen, some people have too much time on their hands..........
Posted By: pinkduster

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 12:59 AM

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And for Dan,keep your finger off the caps key,we all know you are trying to make a point,and still nobody wants your car,not even you !!




i have them..YOU DON'T...and you know as well as anyone if any of my 3 were done they would be the CROWD FAVORITE at any show...




Dan, Im going to respectfully ask you to stop posting on every possible thread that you can about your Furys. Either sell them or dont, but for sale ads belong in the for sale section on Moparts. This is a thread about Moparlar's Road Runner, not you and your "cars."




THANK YOU! Without a doubt, the BEST post I've seen from a Mod so far. I said it before, the guy should be BANNED from the WIW section of Moparts. Never seen someone so in love with them self and their cars.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:06 AM

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And for Dan,keep your finger off the caps key,we all know you are trying to make a point,and still nobody wants your car,not even you !!




i have them..YOU DON'T...and you know as well as anyone if any of my 3 were done they would be the CROWD FAVORITE at any show...




Dan, Im going to respectfully ask you to stop posting on every possible thread that you can about your Furys. Either sell them or dont, but for sale ads belong in the for sale section on Moparts. This is a thread about Moparlar's Road Runner, not you and your "cars."




Finally. Thank you.
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:07 AM

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What's the date code on the K-frame?

BTW




From what I've seen, they switched to the 72 style door VIN decals around January 72
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:16 AM

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When it comes to Roadrunners this 72 6/pk surely must be considered the Pintacle of all Roadrunners ever made, the greatest-grandest last one of them all. Hopefully someone will buy this irreguarded roadrunner immediately somehow and perform its well deserved proper restoration, instead of being Garaged forever...





I don't get this line of thinking....

All this car represents(in my eyes) is just a trickling on of the 71's..I just don't get the whole mystique about it.. That doesn't really mean too much to me, frankly. To put this car in a higher category than a bad ass A12 car or a hemi car in my eyes is just silly. But that's just me and my opinion. Yes, the lack of the orig motor hurts it.

I remember a few years ago I saw a 1967 Coronet440 hemi car that was a factory car. The guy was selling it for about the same price as a 67 Hemi R/T. No one was jumping to buy it. How rare was it? How about a 1 of 1. It doesn't get any more rare than that.

On the other hand cars like the 70 Charger500 Hemi car is very special. Its a 1 of 1. Its a promo car. The vin is 100001. That type of stuff makes it for me. This 72 car is unique, but doesn't hold the same "it" for lack of a better word.

Get as much as you can for it, its a rare car nontheless.

MB





To me, the combination of a 440+6 and a sunroof...a rare enough combination anyway along with the 72 build year make this the ultimate 71-72 B body....and the ultimate mopar for those of us who are partial to this body style
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:32 AM

I love the 72 Road Runner the most out of the 71 thru 74 models. The rear and front bumper and grille area are by far the neatest styling in my opinion.

O-H-I-O once a Buckeye always a Buckeye!!!
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:37 AM

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wow! ODD RUST up that high... i think there's more rust hiding on the car than can be seen.. i bet mine and larry's are much closer condition wise than meets the eye.. mine just has its clothes off! hahahahha.. dan




That rust is from the belt moulding clips. there should be moulding there

Larry




ok that makes sense then i had never seen rust like that.. cool good luck dan
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:40 AM

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you don't need to pity me.. i,m doing fine ..you are the one's all worked up.. it is pretty funny..
Posted By: 71VBEE

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:51 AM

I have followed this post from the beginning, and have watched the rhetoric build. It is a great post because it brings into play personal bias, rarity, supply and demand, documentation, urban myth, missing motor, last of an era vs the era was all ready dead, and on and on, all in one cool WIW. IMHO I say 50K, in today's market, using some of the sound reasoning in some of the previous posts. The criteria used to price rare & obscure cars is totally different(and hard to peg)than that of all other combinations.
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 01:59 AM

I am not at all a Plymouth guy and never have been, although my first two cars were Plymouths, they both let me down. Luckily I found a Dodge and still have it, and a bunch more later I still prefer the high performance brand of Chrysler! Having said that, if I ever do buy a 'mouth it would be a 72 Road Runner! One of the best looking grills of all time, the sexxxy body, the cool air grabber, and the sunroof option ain't too shabby! Throw in the Six Pak, which is MUCH cooler IMHO than the troublesome Hemi, and that car has it all! Larry, you need half-a-dozen Darts?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 02:12 AM

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I am not at all a Plymouth guy and never have been, although my first two cars were Plymouths, they both let me down. Luckily I found a Dodge and still have it, and a bunch more later I still prefer the high performance brand of Chrysler! Having said that, if I ever do buy a 'mouth it would be a 72 Road Runner! One of the best looking grills of all time, the sexxxy body, the cool air grabber, and the sunroof option ain't too shabby! Throw in the Six Pak, which is MUCH cooler IMHO than the troublesome Hemi, and that car has it all! Larry, you need half-a-dozen Darts?




Sorry Jim never got into A bodies much
Posted By: Stewpar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 02:12 AM

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I have followed this post from the beginning, and have watched the rhetoric build. It is a great post because it brings into play personal bias, rarity, supply and demand, documentation, urban myth, missing motor, last of an era vs the era was all ready dead, and on and on, all in one cool WIW. IMHO I say 50K, in today's market, using some of the sound reasoning in some of the previous posts. The criteria used to price rare & obscure cars is totally different(and hard to peg)than that of all other combinations.




The second question one should ask is what it's worth done? Are you giving up a lot in opportunity cost to sell it as is? I am with the others, sell the superbird and restore it correctly!
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 03:13 AM

Hey Larry,

I have no idea what your car is worth but what a cool car. For years I heard of these 72 pack cars and to this day I have never set eyes on one. Most don't know it but I am a big fan of 72s. I feel I have collected some neat cars. While some may not agree I feel your car is the pinicle car of 1972 and is truly unique. I would love to know the history of the 5 known pack cars. Your car being a pack car with a sunroof is just awesome. I hope to see the car one day. Hopefully someone can do it up right for all to enjoy. Good luck to you

On a side note, I have a iron Six Pack manifold that I bought years ago from a guy in Jersey. It had been sand blasted but in its nooks and crannies and embedded in its pores is BLUE PAINT. It was the same price as any other manifold and I bought it to use. I don't think I gave it a second thought till I got it home and really looked at it. It doesn't have a trace of orange on it. Kinda corny I know but for me it is my little connection. It just sits on a shelf.
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 03:29 AM

there was one on ebay a few months ago also... RESTORED its worth 125-140k IMHO.. dan
Posted By: flypaper

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 03:32 AM

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The second question one should ask is what it's worth done?




Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 03:45 AM

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I have followed this post from the beginning, and have watched the rhetoric build. It is a great post because it brings into play personal bias, rarity, supply and demand, documentation, urban myth, missing motor, last of an era vs the era was all ready dead, and on and on, all in one cool WIW. IMHO I say 50K, in today's market, using some of the sound reasoning in some of the previous posts. The criteria used to price rare & obscure cars is totally different(and hard to peg)than that of all other combinations.




The second question one should ask is what it's worth done? Are you giving up a lot in opportunity cost to sell it as is? I am with the others, sell the superbird and restore it correctly!




If you have to pay someone else to restore it, the most money to be made is selling it how it is right now. And with the used parts instead of NOS parts. Sell the NOS seperate.

If costs $60K to restore it to really nice detail, I don't see it being worth $60K more than it is right now.

Finacialy, better to keep the Superbird. The market is flooded with those. Not flooded with 440-6 sunroof cars, especially 72's!

I'd start by benchmarking value off of a 71 RR or 71 Charger R/T six pack sunroof. I think there are a few of those out there. What do you all think those are worth?

That 72 RR/GTX 4spd 440 4bbl sunroof car that sold for $121K is throwing a curve at me. The resto is OK, but not top level by todays standards. It's seems like a non typical selling price (IF it indeed sold for that much). That car without sunroof is no more that $40-45K.
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 03:55 AM

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there was one on ebay a few months ago also... RESTORED its worth 125-140k IMHO.. dan




There's a some good docs restored 68-70 Hemi cars you can buy nowdays for that money.

If you open it up to non #'s motor AND no buildsheet, you might be to touch a selection of 70 Hemi Cudas.
Posted By: nakita7

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 05:16 AM

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times, and then put on a barge to a foreign 'collector' who couldn't tell you what the word 'Plymouth' means, but "Just had to have it!"...






Thank you for bashing foreigners, Mr.Canada.
Be sure that europeans who buy and import any six-pack/hemicar know exactly what they are doing. A die hard enthusiast group and for sure not flippers as there is no way to make money with those cars overhere.

Carsten




I apologize. I do realize there are collectors who actually love cars in the world, what I meant was some of the ultra-rich businessman and princes who truly don't understand cars, but buy them when gold or stocks are too volatile, that's all.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 05:50 AM

DO NOT SELL THE 72!!!

Sell the Superbird and restore the RoadRunner. Someone posted that you will NEVER be able to buy another one if you regret it (and you will) BUT you will be able to buy another Superbird if you get the itch.

I'm not a numbers guy per se (I would never do a numbers car, even if I could afford it, not because I don't like them, but because I would wreck it by driving it) but I definitely see the value in it and appreciate the guys that do it.

This car is in a really weird category. Say you asked a casual Mopar guy what he would rather have, and yeah, he would probably say a 70 Hemi Cuda over the 72 6pac 1 of 1 RoadRunner. BUT ask the hardcore car collector or hardcore Mopar guy who can appreciate what the car is and most would tell you they would take the 72 in a heartbeat. If I was in the market for a high end Mopar this car would be at the top of my list (72 RR are my favorite B-Body)

If you are bent on selling (which I don't think you are) it might be worth contacting a guy like Jay Leno to see if he would be interested, he's into the rare stuff, you never know.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 05:59 AM

Or Maybe Tim Wellborn?
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 07:46 AM

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If you are bent on selling (which I don't think you are) it might be worth contacting a guy like Jay Leno to see if he would be interested, he's into the rare stuff, you never know.




I don't think this is his "type" of weird rare stuff. He's more of Monteverdi, Ghia, Facel Vega, Hemi Cunningham, kind of wierd. I know he'd love to get his hands on that Hemi Monteverdi Hai. I could see him with something along the lines of a Mod Top Hemi Cuda, or maybe Hemi Dart (probably too played for him), F/I 1958 392 hemi car...

Sure Jay is a die hard car guy and appreciate everything. But not a super die hard "Mopar or no car" guy.

This car is more of a numbers guy kind of wierd/rare.

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Or Maybe Tim Wellborn?




IMHO, much more likely.
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 07:58 AM

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Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?




You and me both. I would never pay more for car A than car B if the only difference between the two is some numbers stamped in a piece of tin by a worker at a factory 40 years ago. I'll leave those for the investors and the number nazis. It is an interesting car and an interesting story, but I'll stick with my clones.

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- As far as '71's vs. '72's go, sure; GENERALLY '71's are worth more but that is mostly because of the Hemi and 440-6 availability, since this car HAS the 440-6 and it is basically the SAME car as a '71 only MUCH rarer, I'd say it is worth a substantial premium over a '71 V code RR.




I thought the 71's were basically worth more because the 71's had the better looking rear bumper and side marker lights. Those 71 specific parts sure cost a hell of a lot more than their 72 brethren!
Posted By: keith airgrabber

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 08:32 AM

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Most people will call me crazy , but I am in the same boat with the '72 V codes as I am with the 70 Sport Fury GT V code .
ULTRA ULTRA RARE , Very oddball, Highly misundersood and underestimated by the general population.
I'd say a rolling body, no engine, $ 40,000.
Cars like these are " showstoppers" aka museum trophy's and center pieces to car collections for the guy who wants to have something nobody else has got .
It's like having your own personal bigfoot in your garage , while everybody else just has the run of the mill chimpanzees .....

Greg




THIS pretty much SUMS IT UP..NUFF SAID..




Yup, your BOTH crazy for sure. Give me a "run of the mill" chimp '70 hemicuda anyday over either one of those cars. The '72 V-code car would be a neat one to own for sure, but to me, it is still a '72 which marked the end of the excitement and the beginning of those awful generic side markers


End of excitement. How is a Dana,airgrabber 18spline 4-speed the end of excitement? airgrabber is superior to the shaker . sorry.
Posted By: keith airgrabber

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 08:44 AM

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I love the 72 Road Runner the most out of the 71 thru 74 models. The rear and front bumper and grille area are by far the neatest styling in my opinion. I agree John Herlitz who designed this fuselage made the bumper in the rear for 72 look like a reversal of the front bumper. Something he was trying to create for 71. And finally nailed it for 72. Very tough looking car.
O-H-I-O once a Buckeye always a Buckeye!!!


Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 10:00 AM

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That 72 RR/GTX 4spd 440 4bbl sunroof car that sold for $121K is throwing a curve at me. The resto is OK, but not top level by todays standards. It's seems like a non typical selling price (IF it indeed sold for that much). That car without sunroof is no more that $40-45K.




That auction was weird/odd, someone was playing games - a former owner and/or restorer spent a lot of time near the car - & seemed to be playing the car down. Claiming rust & non-numbers, I don't know if either of those issues are factual. If the sale was completed - somebody made someone pay.
Posted By: Aero426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 04:09 PM

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... it might be worth contacting a guy like Jay Leno to see if he would be interested, he's into the rare stuff, you never know.




I bet that Jay Leno gets offers to buy at least one hundred different cars every year.



Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 04:11 PM

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... it might be worth contacting a guy like Jay Leno to see if he would be interested, he's into the rare stuff, you never know.




I bet that Jay Leno gets offers to buy at least one hundred different cars every year.




I'd say its more like thousands. Can you imagine the people that must send letters/emails wanting him to buy their beloved '78 Thunderbird or some other crap..

MB
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 04:21 PM

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... it might be worth contacting a guy like Jay Leno to see if he would be interested, he's into the rare stuff, you never know.




I bet that Jay Leno gets offers to buy at least one hundred different cars every year.




I'd say its more like thousands. Can you imagine the people that must send letters/emails wanting him to buy their beloved '70 Sport Fury or some other crap..

MB




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Posted By: chargervert

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 04:27 PM

This car could very well be the very last multicarbed Mopar to roll off the assembly line! Unless another one comes out of the woodwork. Thats really cool,and it should command a preimum over most other V code cars. How much of a preimum? That will only be determined by how much a buyer is willing to pay. The only way to find that out is to get it advertised. The E bay route with a high reserve should give you a feeling of what the current market will bring,Larry. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with it.
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 05:13 PM

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Most people will call me crazy , but I am in the same boat with the '72 V codes as I am with the 70 Sport Fury GT V code .
ULTRA ULTRA RARE , Very oddball, Highly misundersood and underestimated by the general population.
I'd say a rolling body, no engine, $ 40,000.
Cars like these are " showstoppers" aka museum trophy's and center pieces to car collections for the guy who wants to have something nobody else has got .
It's like having your own personal bigfoot in your garage , while everybody else just has the run of the mill chimpanzees .....

Greg




THIS pretty much SUMS IT UP..NUFF SAID..




Yup, your BOTH crazy for sure. Give me a "run of the mill" chimp '70 hemicuda anyday over either one of those cars. The '72 V-code car would be a neat one to own for sure, but to me, it is still a '72 which marked the end of the excitement and the beginning of those awful generic side markers


End of excitement. How is a Dana,airgrabber 18spline 4-speed the end of excitement? airgrabber is superior to the shaker .


sorry.




Let's see, lower compression, most of the cool '71 options gone, no super track pak, ugly side markers, etc... Sorry, the Mopar masses have spoken in spades since these cars were new and the fuselage B-bodies just aren't the bees knees;-). Btw- having owned plenty of both style fresh air hoods, I love them both! But give me the A12 LOH over either one anyday of the week
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 05:47 PM






Let's see, lower compression, most of the cool '71 options gone, no super track pak, ugly side markers, etc... Sorry, the Mopar masses have spoken in spades since these cars were new and the fuselage B-bodies just aren't the bees knees;-). Btw- having owned plenty of both style fresh air hoods, I love them both! But give me the A12 LOH over either one anyday of the week




FYI although it doesn't matter much. 72 6 pack Compression was the same as 71. They didn't get reduced it like everything else. Unfortunately that's what caused what we have today. The engine couldn't pass new emission laws and was pulled from the lineup.

Larry
Posted By: Max Wedge Savoy

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 06:30 PM

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I bet that Jay Leno gets offers to buy at least one hundred different cars every year.




I'd say its more like thousands. Can you imagine the people that must send letters/emails wanting him to buy their beloved '70 Sport Fury or some other crap..

MB




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That's friggin classic!!!!
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 06:32 PM

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That 72 RR/GTX 4spd 440 4bbl sunroof car that sold for $121K is throwing a curve at me. The resto is OK, but not top level by todays standards. It's seems like a non typical selling price (IF it indeed sold for that much). That car without sunroof is no more that $40-45K.




That auction was weird/odd, someone was playing games - a former owner and/or restorer spent a lot of time near the car - & seemed to be playing the car down. Claiming rust & non-numbers, I don't know if either of those issues are factual. If the sale was completed - somebody made someone pay.




Doesn't "feel" like a good benchmark price.

Reminds me of one of the Gurney race AAR's that sold at Barret Jackson years ago. An owner of sister car heckled it in some manner... Now Craig Jackson owns the car.
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 07:06 PM

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Let's see, lower compression, most of the cool '71 options gone, no super track pak, ugly side markers, etc... Sorry, the Mopar masses have spoken in spades since these cars were new and the fuselage B-bodies just aren't the bees knees;-). Btw- having owned plenty of both style fresh air hoods, I love them both! But give me the A12 LOH over either one anyday of the week




FYI although it doesn't matter much. 72 6 pack Compression was the same as 71. They didn't get reduced it like everything else. Unfortunately that's what caused what we have today. The engine couldn't pass new emission laws and was pulled from the lineup.

Larry




As a bit of an aside, Mopar deserves some cudo's for extending the life of the musclecar. Now, much of this was because Chrysler was the smallest of the Big Three, but after GM slashed it's compression ratios across the board for 1971, Mopars soldiered on maintaining all the hi perf engines in the lineup. For 1972, the V code cars (extremely rare as they are) stand out as the lone survivors of the coming automotive dark ages. Sure Pontiac 455 HO's and the soon-to-be released 455SD cars were still plenty strong, but they were still low compression engines.
From a styling perspective look how much better Mopar faired compared the the colonade GM cars (sorry LT. Dan) and 5ph bumpers. E bodies still looked more or less like themselves until there death in 1974......compared to the like of 1974 Mustang II's.

Any way you slice it, Larry's '72 V code RR has all the styling and power of the earlier models....sort of the "last man standing".


Dave
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 08:35 PM

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As a bit of an aside, Mopar deserves some cudo's for extending the life of the musclecar. Now, much of this was because Chrysler was the smallest of the Big Three, but after GM slashed it's compression ratios across the board for 1971, Mopars soldiered on maintaining all the hi perf engines in the lineup. For 1972, the V code cars (extremely rare as they are) stand out as the lone survivors of the coming automotive dark ages. Sure Pontiac 455 HO's and the soon-to-be released 455SD cars were still plenty strong, but they were still low compression engines.
From a styling perspective look how much better Mopar faired compared the the colonade GM cars (sorry LT. Dan) and 5ph bumpers. E bodies still looked more or less like themselves until there death in 1974......compared to the like of 1974 Mustang II's.

Any way you slice it, Larry's '72 V code RR has all the styling and power of the earlier models....sort of the "last man standing".


Dave




Agreed.

If you don't like the body style, that's fine. Not everyone likes the 68-70 B-body or 70-74 E-body style either.

This particular car marks the end for V-codes. That fact on its own is significant. If this was the last 71 RR V-code, and none were made in 72, I'm willing to bet a few opinions would change and tilt toward it being worth more.

It deserves to be brought back. Whether or not someone is willing to spend the amount of money it will take (between initial purchase and restoration costs, whether that be nice driver or OE correct) is the real question. The days of recovering the majority spent on a project and subsequent restoration are over.

Mike.
Posted By: MONC

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 09:57 PM

It would seem to me the best person to restore the car is Larry, from a financial and emotional/sentimental attachment(love for the car) perspective.
However, it's up to Larry if he WANTS to restore it. It's been 17 years, so maybe he just doesn't want to deal with a restoration and wants the car sold to someone who loves the car as he does- which is fine.
What ever his motive, if he wants to sell, and is not comfortable with any offers he's received so far, then I agree with getting it out there in the public eye and see what interest/offers come in. Couldn't hurt, right?

Not sure how long you have had the Superbird Larry but if you have an attachment to that car as well but need to sell it to fund the resto of the 72, sell it someone who could sell it back to you once the 72 is done , and in a few years want the Superbird back.

Good luck whatever you decide.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 09:57 PM

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And for Dan,keep your finger off the caps key,we all know you are trying to make a point,and still nobody wants your car,not even you !!




i have them..YOU DON'T...and you know as well as anyone if any of my 3 were done they would be the CROWD FAVORITE at any show...




At the HiPo demolition derby spectacular maybe. As for having them. I dont have hemorrhoids either. Does not mean I want any.
Posted By: NewbombTurkk

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 10:20 PM

I don't think the muscle car market with ever bounce back again due to many reasons......so if I was really thinking of selling this 72, I would let it roll on ebay this spring with a hi reserve to test the waters.....

I think it will be worth less with each passing year.......less parts available, etc......shoulda sold in 2007 but hindsight, yada yada...

Driver superbird = no sale no way
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 10:35 PM

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As a bit of an aside, Mopar deserves some cudo's for extending the life of the musclecar. Now, much of this was because Chrysler was the smallest of the Big Three, but after GM slashed it's compression ratios across the board for 1971, Mopars soldiered on maintaining all the hi perf engines in the lineup. For 1972, the V code cars (extremely rare as they are) stand out as the lone survivors of the coming automotive dark ages. Sure Pontiac 455 HO's and the soon-to-be released 455SD cars were still plenty strong, but they were still low compression engines.
From a styling perspective look how much better Mopar faired compared the the colonade GM cars (sorry LT. Dan) and 5ph bumpers. E bodies still looked more or less like themselves until there death in 1974......compared to the like of 1974 Mustang II's.

Any way you slice it, Larry's '72 V code RR has all the styling and power of the earlier models....sort of the "last man standing".


Dave




Agreed.

If you don't like the body style, that's fine. Not everyone likes the 68-70 B-body or 70-74 E-body style either.

This particular car marks the end for V-codes. That fact on its own is significant. If this was the last 71 RR V-code, and none were made in 72, I'm willing to bet a few opinions would change and tilt toward it being worth more.

It deserves to be brought back. Whether or not someone is willing to spend the amount of money it will take (between initial purchase and restoration costs, whether that be nice driver or OE correct) is the real question. The days of recovering the majority spent on a project and subsequent restoration are over.

Mike.




Yes, I agree with all that though personally I would value this 1 of 4? '72 V code RR's far above the last of the 246 built in 1971 (even if there were no '72 v codes)


Dave
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 11:49 PM

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Yes, I agree with all that though personally I would value this 1 of 4? '72 V code RR's far above the last of the 246 built in 1971 (even if there were no '72 v codes)


Dave




Again, agreed.

I was referring to the snub that 72s get. If we were talking about a 71, either the last V-code made or the only one made before the option being cancelled, estimates would be noticeably higher.

Everyone has their favourite year/style/etc. For some members to feel the need to comment that this doesn't have the 'it' for them, so be it but I'm sure everyone doesn't think the same about their favourite.

If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it.

This car has been somewhat of an urban legend for sometime and now the owner has come forward to discuss possibly selling it, sharing info, pictures, etc. Some of the responses have been petty, pointless and for one particular member, outright stupid.

I'm not the only one who would like to see more about this car. Hopefully Larry will continue to share.

Mike.
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/20/11 11:57 PM

Posted By: P1970HeMICuDA

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 12:07 AM

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If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it.





So would I...I'd love to see this car restored, actually I'd love to restore it.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 12:14 AM

AND when can we see more pictures?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 12:18 AM

I am going to move my sons 71 this weekend and get some more pics first part of next week

Larry
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 12:47 AM

well, whatever happens with the sale of this car, it deserves a concourse restoration....I think it's more about making sure the next owner appreciates what the car is, not someone seeing the $$$ potential
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 12:54 AM

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well, whatever happens with the sale of this car, it deserves a concourse restoration....I think it's more about making sure the next owner appreciates what the car is, not someone seeing the $$$ potential




I agree 100 %
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 12:57 AM

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I am going to move my sons 71 this weekend and get some more pics first part of next week

Larry




Hi Larry,

Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.

Thanks,

Mike.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 01:20 AM

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Larry




Hi Larry,

Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.

Thanks,

Mike.




1 fender has been replaced, the car has some funky 70's pinstriping that someone put on it. There is no signs of GTX emblems being on the other fender or trunk lid, so I am not sure if they have been removed or were never there, According to the paperwork I have the decision to make the 72's RR/GTX was any car with a 440 engine for all cars. So hard to say if the were there or not. Although the other funny thing is the car does not have torque boxes on the car even though every other 72 440 car I have looked at has them. But I am not sure about the other 72 6 pack chargers I never looked for them. I actually have a set of NOS rear torque boxes that I was going to put on the car when I restored it but I don't think I will do that now.

Larry
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 01:28 AM

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Larry




Hi Larry,

Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.

Thanks,

Mike.




It's not an RS but an RM vin # so it was a done deal plus I have seen those "small" badges on other 72's and even on 74's on the sides of the hood. My U code 72 had them on the fenders but it was repainted once,so who knows...

On the other hand I have been following this thread and I am biased cause a 72 Runner is the last of the muscle cars and IMO one of the best looking and handling B-body. The 3800 views about a 72 RR says it all. This truly is a collector piece where rare equates to value $40K I feel is obtainable even in this market....A sunroof V-code 72 RR? Yeah I'd walk right past every A-12 and Hemi cuda ever built to see this awesome beast,although I may stop at the 63-5 B-body max wedge and Hemi cars along the way. Awesome car Larry and Thanks for sharing and I can't imagine that since this post there have not been a few legitimate offers.
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 02:17 AM

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Larry




Hi Larry,

Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.

Thanks,

Mike.




1 fender has been replaced, the car has some funky 70's pinstriping that someone put on it. There is no signs of GTX emblems being on the other fender or trunk lid, so I am not sure if they have been removed or were never there, According to the paperwork I have the decision to make the 72's RR/GTX was any car with a 440 engine for all cars. So hard to say if the were there or not. Although the other funny thing is the car does not have torque boxes on the car even though every other 72 440 car I have looked at has them. But I am not sure about the other 72 6 pack chargers I never looked for them. I actually have a set of NOS rear torque boxes that I was going to put on the car when I restored it but I don't think I will do that now.

Larry




Thanks for explaining Larry. QuickBpBp, I had a feeling that was the way it was decided but wanted to ask anyway.

Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?

Looking forward to detailed pictures.

Thanks again,

Mike.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 02:27 AM

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Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?

Looking forward to detailed pictures.

Thanks again,

Mike.



I can't think of anything else at this time. You guys are making me feel like I should put it on my lift and really look at it

Larry
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 02:41 AM

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Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?

Looking forward to detailed pictures.

Thanks again,

Mike.



I can't think of anything else at this time. You guys are making me feel like I should put it on my lift and really look at it

Larry




Sounds good!
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 02:44 AM

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Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?

Looking forward to detailed pictures.

Thanks again,

Mike.



I can't think of anything else at this time. You guys are making me feel like I should put it on my lift and really look at it

Larry




Sounds good!




Yea cause you are not the one that has to push it

Larry
Posted By: 72 RR DUDE

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 02:44 AM

Besides the torque boxes they had a skid plate under the cross member.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:45 AM

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I am pretty sure it has a skid plate
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:58 AM

Put it on the RACK!take 100 photos,, and put a photobucket link,, WE ALL WANT TO SEE ,, plus your drumm in up interest if you end up selling it,,!!
Posted By: sogtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:21 AM



My guess 45 k-25 more pics
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:28 AM

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My guess 45 k-25 more pics




I think you all just want to make me work and get people there to push this thing.
Posted By: EWJ

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:42 AM

Half the concern/comments here about this car's value is becuase it is a "less desireable" 1972 year car. Yet this car is proof of an urban legend and the absolute end of an era (V code and mulitple carb OEM equipped vehicles).

Having said all this, what if this was a 1-of-1 1972 Hemi Cuda? Would it be subject to the same "abuse" in perceved value because it too was a 1972 year car?
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:46 AM

Quote:

Half the concern/comments here about this car's value is becuase it is a "less desireable" 1972 year car. Yet this car is proof of an urban legend and the absolute end of an era (V code and mulitple carb OEM equipped vehicles).

Having said all this, what if this was a 1-of-1 1972 Hemi Cuda? Would it be subject to the same "abuse" in perceved value because it too was a 1972 year car?




Posted By: Max Wedge Savoy

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 11:20 AM

Quote:

Half the concern/comments here about this car's value is becuase it is a "less desireable" 1972 year car. Yet this car is proof of an urban legend and the absolute end of an era (V code and mulitple carb OEM equipped vehicles).

Having said all this, what if this was a 1-of-1 1972 Hemi Cuda? Would it be subject to the same "abuse" in perceved value because it too was a 1972 year car?




I fully agree with your end of an era statement but the rest is comparing apples to oranges. As we all know the E bodies remained relatively the same. The later B bodies changed quite a bit! It's an acquired taste. I for one don't really like the 71 and up B's but I chose to keep my comments to myself (until now).
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 12:45 PM

Quote:

Half the concern/comments here about this car's value is becuase it is a "less desireable" 1972 year car. Yet this car is proof of an urban legend and the absolute end of an era (V code and mulitple carb OEM equipped vehicles).

Having said all this, what if this was a 1-of-1 1972 Hemi Cuda? Would it be subject to the same "abuse" in perceved value because it too was a 1972 year car?




Yes it would. Some members would complain about the side markers, grille, taillamps, tachometer red line position or colour, blah, blah, blah, and feel the need to voice their opinion. But, some members would appreciate it as the end of the line for a particular engine combination and respect it for what it is.

There's a definite bias against 72s and I think it has to do with how the horsepower ratings changed from gross to net and the change in compression ratios. This has been explained numerous times before yet some just don't want to accept it. I'd love to see the net rating for a 71 440 HP against a 72 440 HP with all things being equal other than the lower compression ratio for 72. It won't be the 375 vs 280 that a lot of people seem to want to believe.

Mike.
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 01:08 PM

Quote:

I fully agree with your end of an era statement but the rest is comparing apples to oranges. As we all know the E bodies remained relatively the same. The later B bodies changed quite a bit! It's an acquired taste. I for one don't really like the 71 and up B's but I chose to keep my comments to myself (until now).




No offense Jon, but this is yet another 'I don't like this...' response that I just do not see the point of.

The same 'acquired taste' could be applied to 63 Plymouths. If I ran across a thread discussing a one of one 63 Plymouth, I wouldn't feel the need to add my response and say I don't like that style because of whatever reasoning. What would the point be of such a comment?

I'd love to see the reaction members who post these types of comments would get if they did the same but in a face to face scenario. Say a group of people were in a garage some place surrounding a car discussing how rare it is since it wasn't supposed to have been built but it was clearly legitimate and these people were genuinely interested in it. Somebody walks in, says something along the following:

This car just doesn't have the 'it' for me, but a 'insert your favourite year/style here' does because of 'insert your reasoning here'.

or

These cars are an acquired taste and I don't like them.

What do you think the people interested in the car would think? Really, what would you think of someone doing it to you when your discussing something you like? In such an example that type of person would be dismissed (politely or impolitely).

Easily 50% of the responses to this thread have absolutely nothing positive or constructive to add to this discussion. The only positive I can come up with is to that member's post count.

Mike.
Posted By: Max Wedge Savoy

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 02:40 PM

No offense taken Mike. That is primarily why I haven't said anything to this point. 62-65 B bodies are odd and your right, not everyone likes them. Even though I'm not fond of the post 70 bodies I have owned several through the years. My opinion in the grand scheme is meaningless and should be taken at face value. Now those 6 pack fury's.......
Posted By: ThermoQuad

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:08 PM

Very cool car, one of the holy grails of Mopar

Quote:

Half the concern/comments here about this car's value is because it is a "less desirable" 1972 year car. Yet this car is proof of an urban legend and the absolute end of an era (V code and multiple carb OEM equipped vehicles).

Having said all this, what if this was a 1-of-1 1972 Hemi Cuda? Would it be subject to the same "abuse" in perceved value because it too was a 1972 year car?




No urban legend for the 72 hemi 'Cuda. I saw it in the dark of night in the woods of western michigan about 1997. Black, pwr buldge hood, brown interior. Currently I am trying to secure some documentation. The car went to canada and I would bet the owner is lurking here...

PLEASE Do not pollute the thread with whether Chrysler made a 72 hemi 'Cuda. Be happy I shared. Start another thread if you got nothing to do!
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:18 PM

Quote:


I'd love to see the reaction members who post these types of comments would get if they did the same but in a face to face scenario. Say a group of people were in a garage some place surrounding a car discussing how rare it is since it wasn't supposed to have been built but it was clearly legitimate and these people were genuinely interested in it. Somebody walks in, says something along the following:

This car just doesn't have the 'it' for me, but a 'insert your favourite year/style here' does because of 'insert your reasoning here'.

or

These cars are an acquired taste and I don't like them.

What do you think the people interested in the car would think? Really, what would you think of someone doing it to you when your discussing something you like? In such an example that type of person would be dismissed (politely or impolitely).

Easily 50% of the responses to this thread have absolutely nothing positive or constructive to add to this discussion. The only positive I can come up with is to that member's post count.

Mike.




So what's your point?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether you or anyone else likes it or not. I've done exactly what you say above , say something isn't my cup of tea in a group, I didn't get tied to a stake and burned or tared and feathered ... nor did I get dismissed impolitely.

As far as I'm concerned Chrysler didn't build much that interests me after 1969, there are a few cars I like between 70 and 72 , nothing really after that ...
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:27 PM

Quote:

Quote:


I'd love to see the reaction members who post these types of comments would get if they did the same but in a face to face scenario. Say a group of people were in a garage some place surrounding a car discussing how rare it is since it wasn't supposed to have been built but it was clearly legitimate and these people were genuinely interested in it. Somebody walks in, says something along the following:

This car just doesn't have the 'it' for me, but a 'insert your favourite year/style here' does because of 'insert your reasoning here'.

or

These cars are an acquired taste and I don't like them.

What do you think the people interested in the car would think? Really, what would you think of someone doing it to you when your discussing something you like? In such an example that type of person would be dismissed (politely or impolitely).

Easily 50% of the responses to this thread have absolutely nothing positive or constructive to add to this discussion. The only positive I can come up with is to that member's post count.

Mike.




So what's your point?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether you or anyone else likes it or not. I've done exactly what you say above , say something isn't my cup of tea in a group, I didn't get tied to a stake and burned or tared and feathered ... nor did I get dismissed impolitely.

As far as I'm concerned Chrysler didn't build much that interests me after 1969, there are a few cars I like between 70 and 72 , nothing really after that ...




My point is if you have nothing positive to add, why are you adding your two cents?

There are plenty of times I've seen posts go into a pi$$ing match because of this and either the original purpose of the post is given up on, locked or just deleted altogether.

I never said you aren't entitled to your opinion. To feel the need to voice your opinion whether others like it or not really doesn't make any sense to me other than those that do this are looking for attention.

If you want to discuss this further John, PM me.

Mike.
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:30 PM

It's a landmark car that marks the end of an era. Very low production with desirable and seldom ordered options. I would be looking hard for that original engine, it could very well still be around. Most people never get the chance to own such a collect able car. What's it worth, probably more than most think.
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:32 PM

Quote:

It's a landmark car that marks the end of an era. Very low production with desirable and seldom ordered options. I would be looking hard for that original engine, it could very well still be around. Most people never get the chance to own such a collect able car. What's it worth, probably more than most think.




x2
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:33 PM

Quote:

To feel the need to voice your opinion whether others like it or not really doesn't make any sense to me other than those that do this are looking for attention.

Mike.




Isn't what you are doing by voicing your opinion of those that don't blow sunshine and rainbows up yours , or anyone elses , backside 24/7 the same thing?
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:37 PM

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Isn't what you are doing by voicing your opinion of those that don't blow sunshine and rainbows up yours , or anyone elses , backside 24/7 the same thing?




Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:41 PM

while i can enjoy the fact that its an end of an era,,, i'm not going to slop down 45K, to own it to stick it in my garage, and brag to everyone, that i have the last (maybe) of the v coded cars,,, not my cup of tea,, i'm sure there are alot of buyers,, who need to swag,, some nuttys, to impress there friends,,,, thats who your buyers are going to be...(watch Barrett Jackson,, you'll spot them) and good for them,, if i was loaded,, i buy pure cars. the motor missing is a downer for me,, but i can appreciate what the cars is,, but my money will stay in the 68-70 b bodies,and 70-71 e bodies cars.

ps,, this is a forum,, people can voice their thoughts,, there are some who dont like these cars/era, and some that do. Viral, America ,
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:43 PM

Quote:

No offense taken Mike. That is primarily why I haven't said anything to this point. 62-65 B bodies are odd and your right, not everyone likes them. Even though I'm not fond of the post 70 bodies I have owned several through the years. My opinion in the grand scheme is meaningless and should be taken at face value. Now those 6 pack fury's.......




Why bother apologizing? Just because you don't favor the body style and it's not your dream car, that doesn't count as a diss in my book. The 72 car that is the subject of this thread is a spectacular automobile that represents the end of an era and that won't change whether you or Joe Blow likes it or not. For the life of me, I don't know why people get so jerked off if someone doesn't like their crap. Who the f cares? It's only human nature to do what you did. In fact, the same guy that criticized you for voicing their opinion,posted this comment earlier in the thread:

"If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it."

OMG, now, Am I going to need therapy because I own a 71 Hemi Challenger and a 70 Coronet R/T?

Pot have you met kettle?



MB
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:47 PM

Quote:

Why bother apologizing? Just because you don't favor the body style and it's not your dream car, that doesn't count as a diss in my book. The 72 car that is the subject of this thread is a spectacular automobile that represents the end of an era and that won't change whether you or Joe Blow likes it or not. For the life of me, I don't know why people get so jerked off if someone doesn't like their crap. Who the f cares? It's only human nature to do what you did. In fact, the same guy that criticized you for voicing their opinion,posted this comment earlier in the thread:

"If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it."

OMG, now, Am I going to need therapy because I own a 71 Hemi Challenger and a 70 Coronet R/T?

Pot have you met kettle?



MB




Yep, you really called me on that one. Happy now?

The point you and John are missing is pretty simple. If you have nothing positive to add, why bother.

Mike.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:49 PM

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No offense taken Mike. That is primarily why I haven't said anything to this point. 62-65 B bodies are odd and your right, not everyone likes them. Even though I'm not fond of the post 70 bodies I have owned several through the years. My opinion in the grand scheme is meaningless and should be taken at face value. Now those 6 pack fury's.......




Why bother apologizing? Just because you don't favor the body style and it's not your dream car, that doesn't count as a diss in my book. The 72 car that is the subject of this thread is a spectacular automobile that represents the end of an era and that won't change whether you or Joe Blow likes it or not. For the life of me, I don't know why people get so jerked off if someone doesn't like their crap. Who the f cares? It's only human nature to do what you did. In fact, the same guy that criticized you for voicing their opinion,posted this comment earlier in the thread:

"If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it."

OMG, now, Am I going to need therapy because I own a 71 Hemi Challenger and a 70 Coronet R/T?

Pot have you met kettle?



MB





DING DING DING .... WINNER ....

I wonder if you'll get a slew of PM's chastising you from one of the rainbow and sunshine crowd ??

What was the topic ?? Oh ya , a cool car that was supposedly never built.

I'll add my :2cents: , sell the Superbird and do the 72 RR , you can always buy another Superbird , plus the RR will clear the low ceiling of a parking garage easier .
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 03:59 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Why bother apologizing? Just because you don't favor the body style and it's not your dream car, that doesn't count as a diss in my book. The 72 car that is the subject of this thread is a spectacular automobile that represents the end of an era and that won't change whether you or Joe Blow likes it or not. For the life of me, I don't know why people get so jerked off if someone doesn't like their crap. Who the f cares? It's only human nature to do what you did. In fact, the same guy that criticized you for voicing their opinion,posted this comment earlier in the thread:

"If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it."

OMG, now, Am I going to need therapy because I own a 71 Hemi Challenger and a 70 Coronet R/T?

Pot have you met kettle?



MB




Yep, you really called me on that one. Happy now?

The point you and John are missing is pretty simple. If you have nothing positive to add, why bother.

Mike.




I get the point,(and I am clearly sure John does as well)-but YOU don't. Most people, least not I give two craps what anyone else's opinion is about anything. I'd NEVER own a pink or purple Mopar. Does that mean everyone who owns one is now looked at unfavorably, because I dont like it? Hardly! How downright BORING life would be if all anyone did was patronize and kiss asz to any topic in any venue? But that's the way things are as a society now and that sucks, frankly. Life's tough,buddy. Wear a cup.


Don't be a hypocrite. You don't live in a glass house by any chance, do you? Jeez, some of the stuff people post in some of these threads are downright ridiculous.

PS: Sorry, Larry(OP). Good luck with whatever happens.

MB
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:15 PM

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I'll add my :2cents: , sell the Superbird and do the 72 RR , you can always buy another Superbird , plus the RR will clear the low ceiling of a parking garage easier .





i'm with you.. I would do the same thing. The 72 is more unique and with the added plus of the power sunroof, well, that seals it for me. Superbirds are ugly anyway. Oh no. I voiced my opinion, the Superbird owners are going to really get mad now...

MB
Posted By: EWJ

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:51 PM

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I fully agree with your end of an era statement but the rest is comparing apples to oranges. As we all know the E bodies remained relatively the same.




Apples to oranges? I am speaking 1971 vs. 1972, as I believe most are when commenting about side marker lights, etc: not comparing 1970 vs. 1972. That was the point. E-bodies did not fare well during the 71-72 transition either, IMO and others would agree. I think E-bodies fared far worse in the 71-72 transition than the B-Bodies did.

TomQuad- Not seeking to polute or go off topic- the point was to provide a perspective only. No was intended about the 72 Hemi Cuda: we can all re-visit that topic later (and I used "urban legend" only because of the doubters in the hobby).
Posted By: 67plymouthman

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:54 PM

Nice thing about having a mopar in the "higher echelon" is that you can always sell it for good money and buy something that you really want or trade it for something that you really want. Or take the money and run. Which is up to you. I think the OP has a good idea of what it would take to buy the car; I think he wants to draw some interest-kudos for you becuase it is working!
Great post and hope you get the most out of it and I hope it stays in North America. Not trying to offend anyone oversees however, I would like to see the car at a show someday.
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 04:57 PM

My OPINION is that Andy Masny or Tom Cannon must own this car! Knowing these guys, they would do the car it's proper justice. C'mon guys, start selling your junk and get it going.. This is the Holy Grail..

MB
Posted By: nomore65BelvJim

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 05:01 PM

Interesting car and history behind it, neat stuff. Thanks for sharing the info/pictures Larry

What ever the cars future may be I hope a "showroom fresh" restoration is in it. It certainly deserves one
Posted By: BS27R1B

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 06:13 PM

Not a big fan of the 71 and newer B-bodies however I can appreciate the significance of this car.

Add the decent color and sunroof this car has very good potential.

The OP has some idea of the value to him and it would appear to be well north of $35,000 as he did not negotiate a sale on two offers of that amount. I do not think those offers were too far off the market at the present time for a project like this.

Numbers matching is not significant to me when we are talking low production numbers (below 50) for a high performance car. They were built to be abused and most were and most lost their original engines. Expect it was abused and damaged and if they are matching it is a bonus. ie no penalty or discount for NOM.

Assumming this car only needs light body work I would suggest the project would be worth up to $50,000 to the right buyer that had to have it.

The problem you run into for most potential buyers would be that adding the restoration cost to the entry price would push the investment in this car to a level where they would have a very broad range of choices of some awesome cars.

Awesome car and I hope it gets back on the road soon.
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 06:17 PM

Quote:

My OPINION is that Andy Masny or Tom Cannon must own this car! Knowing these guys, they would do the car it's proper justice. C'mon guys, start selling your junk and get it going.. This is the Holy Grail..

MB




Running 11's with it and looking bone stock while doing so?

Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 06:25 PM

the question being,, when did those offers come? before the burst?2007? for someone to throw 35-45K, at a non matching v code 1972? be pretty hard,, in my eyes, i'd be picking up a A12 project for 30k, or hemi car for 30-60K, or winged car,
the next owner,, is going to be a 71-72 lover,, and as posted earlier,, it will good to a good home,, not a flipper. (but money talks) or to someone who Has to have it. cool car..
now get out and rack that thing up!! and post more pics!

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 06:25 PM

A 100% concourse restoration will put this car at a stature most mopars would only dream of obtaining and a price tag to match. Look at your truly expensive collector cars they have notoriety and low production numbers. This car has both in spades. I say it's a once in life time opportunity and I hope Larry does not let it pass him by.
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 06:30 PM

HOW much would YOU MAX pay RIGHT NOW. with the money you have, net 30 days payment due.
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 06:56 PM

68427vette you ain't got a clue, you already demonstrated that by your other post. Possibly this will help. This car would be the 69 ZL1 Corvette in corvette circles. The 69 corvette is not my favorite body style vette either but add the ZL1 and it makes all the difference.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 07:25 PM

Quote:

My OPINION is that Andy Masny or Tom Cannon must own this car! Knowing these guys, they would do the car it's proper justice. C'mon guys, start selling your junk and get it going.. This is the Holy Grail..

MB




I would love too Mike, can I borrow a couple bucks? Maybe Larry would like a U code B5 sunroof car in trade?
Posted By: quick77rt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 08:10 PM

Question????

Since many bring up this is a 72 and even being what it is makes it worth less then some....what about the Red 73 Pilot Charger Car complete and running for approx 10k here on moparts.

Of course not a V code car but a rare car, and seems it was or is a hard sell at 10k.

With this 72 not having the org motor ect at 35 plus K I must ask where is the line drawn on incorrect cars of any body style.

As time goes on it seems more and more are willing to accept a non matching car, a clone when in my simple opinion all these cars are like a watered down drink.

Is the car really worth the big money without the org motor?

I really feel the only mopars still worth the big money are the correct # matching, fender tag correct cars because they have earned there worth either by luck, or care of the prior owner.

All the rest is just the watered down drink....As much as I like and would like to own the 72 here, isnt it really one would be buying whats left of the last 72 v code car as in reality isnt it just part of the org car it was at one time.

Of coures another correct unstamped "warrenty" block could pop up but is there facts to support this on the majority of cars with this claim...no.

What people feel the car is worth and what one is will to lay out in cash is very much wo different things.

I say just as others, yes ebay sucks but its a good way to gauge the market value world wide...Id toss it on the bag and let it run with a high reserve, your highest bidder clearly will be the one who wants the car the most and if it dont hit your reserve you still have a real world figure to consider.
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 08:34 PM

Wow, simply the most ridiculous post I have seen in 14 years on this site...
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 08:43 PM

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Wow, simply the most ridiculous post I have seen in 14 years on this site...




You don't read much then , or at least not much posted by quickie ..

Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 09:39 PM

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Question????

Since many bring up this is a 72 and even being what it is makes it worth less then some....what about the Red 73 Pilot Charger Car complete and running for approx 10k here on moparts.

Of course not a V code car but a rare car, and seems it was or is a hard sell at 10k.

With this 72 not having the org motor ect at 35 plus K I must ask where is the line drawn on incorrect cars of any body style.

As time goes on it seems more and more are willing to accept a non matching car, a clone when in my simple opinion all these cars are like a watered down drink.

Is the car really worth the big money without the org motor?

I really feel the only mopars still worth the big money are the correct # matching, fender tag correct cars because they have earned there worth either by luck, or care of the prior owner.

All the rest is just the watered down drink....As much as I like and would like to own the 72 here, isnt it really one would be buying whats left of the last 72 v code car as in reality isnt it just part of the org car it was at one time.

Of coures another correct unstamped "warrenty" block could pop up but is there facts to support this on the majority of cars with this claim...no.

What people feel the car is worth and what one is will to lay out in cash is very much wo different things.

I say just as others, yes ebay sucks but its a good way to gauge the market value world wide...Id toss it on the bag and let it run with a high reserve, your highest bidder clearly will be the one who wants the car the most and if it dont hit your reserve you still have a real world figure to consider.





Oh what the heck, I'm bored anyway;

- there is no comparison whatsoever to the '73 car you are referring to for several reasons: 1) '72's are the same car as '71's except for MINOR cosmetic changes whereas '73's are .....well not and are way less desireable. 2) One is a 440-6 car and the other isn't. 3) Pilot cars, first and lasts, etc. are interesting but the '72 V code car is worth alot because it's one of 2,3 or 4 built and it's the only one left as far as we know.

- A clone is a totally different thing than a NOM car. A coronet deluxe dressed up like a Superbee is a clone, a Superbee missing it's original motor is still a Superbee. The whole #'s thing is WAY overblown with Mopars.......a 383 is a 383, a 440 is a 440 and a 426 street hemi is a 426 street hemi....all of them are pretty much the same and there are no special blocks and other things like Brand X hipo motors have compared to the low perf. stuff. PLUS Mopars have the engine right in the VIN so you don't need a #'s block to tell you what you have. An original FT, Broadcast sheet or other documentation is a million times more important than the #'s motor IMO. .....and for the record my 440-6 car has the numbers motor.....hope I don't window the block racing it.

- there is no "what's left of the last '72 V code car", it is a car that appears alot more solid than most.


.....other than all that, I agree with you completely!


Dave
Posted By: EWJ

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 09:55 PM

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Since many bring up this is a 72 and even being what it is makes it worth less then some....what about the Red 73 Pilot Charger Car complete and running for approx 10k here on moparts.




What about this car?
1) Not a big block car
2) Not a car having a rare and desireable motor that was briefly offered
3) Not a car any different than the 10,000+ 73 Chargers made.

It is a cool piece- but is not a fair comparison in the least, and that should be quite apparent.

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With this 72 not having the org motor ect at 35 plus K I must ask where is the line drawn on incorrect cars of any body style.




Incorrect? What here is “incorrect”? The motor is missing- but the car as built is not incorrect, erroneous, fake, fabricated or whatever.

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Is the car really worth the big money without the org motor?



When it is one-of-(less than maybe 10?): yes. If this needs further clarification as to why, it’s doubtful anyone here can help you understand.
Posted By: BS27R1B

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 10:13 PM

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68427vette you ain't got a clue, you already demonstrated that by your other post. Possibly this will help. This car would be the 69 ZL1 Corvette in corvette circles. The 69 corvette is not my favorite body style vette either but add the ZL1 and it makes all the difference.




No offense but that is nowhere near a comparison.

Just 2 ZL-1 Corvettes ever built and far more specialized and exotic than a 440-6 car.

They are also sought after by probably the biggest(by numbers) segment of the collector car hobby. Not to mention probably the most affluent, on average, segment as well.

Oh and did I mention probably the most organized segment(NCRS) as well.
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 10:21 PM

I probably went a little over board. But hopefully I made my point. The car is significant, and not just a 72 six pack GTX with a missing engine.
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 10:58 PM

yea,, i get you point,,, and agree,, NO NEVER A ZL1, or ZL2, or L88,,, by far. its a 1972 440/ 6 pack.. never factory raced, blaaa bllaa blaa. like I said,, its a cool car,, not my cup of tea at 45K,, and not my cup at 15K. but i can still enjoy what it was. a 1972 440/6 pack, end of an era, the BIG TURDD ERA OF CARS , gas crunch, etc
now if its was the LAST HEMI!! Now we are talking, $45K-75K unrestored , i'd start breaking my daughters piggy banks!!



on the top end what is a restored big block 72 worth? i'd add 15K-20K ontoop of that car, for the motor upgrade to a 440/6,, then a few bucks for the "last one" till another one show up.....

just tell us your keeping it,,,

you do know its FREE to list on EBAG,, just have to pay if it sells...
Posted By: BS27R1B

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 11:01 PM



S'alright!

The 72 V-code Runner can stand on it's own in many circles.
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 11:07 PM

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S'alright!

The 72 V-code Runner can stand on it's own in many circles.




100%

While I generally dont favor the bodystyle(thought the 71/72 Charger was the best looking of those B cars-especially the 71 R/T ). THIS particular car is in a class all its own. It should command a HEAVY premium over a comparable 71.

MB
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 11:21 PM



WELL, ACCORDING to the latest POLL,,, you have 3 buyers at $50K and above!1 SELL SELL SELL

do i get a 10% finding a buyer fee
checks in the mail right?
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/21/11 11:25 PM

OK,, new poll for the three or more over 50K :
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 12:06 AM

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It should command a HEAVY premium over a comparable 71.

MB






Dave
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 12:39 AM

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E-bodies did not fare well during the 71-72 transition either, IMO and others would agree. I think E-bodies fared far worse in the 71-72 transition than the B-Bodies did.




How so? The cuda had a different grille and tail lights, but the changes were not bad looking by any means. The challenger got the sad mouth grille, but I would say that is comparable to the bulky looking rear bumper the 72 plymouths had.

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Numbers matching is not significant to me when we are talking low production numbers (below 50) for a high performance car. They were built to be abused and most were and most lost their original engines. Expect it was abused and damaged and if they are matching it is a bonus. ie no penalty or discount for NOM.




How can you say NOM is not going to be a penalty in this case? The only people interested in spending big bucks on this car are going to be the numbers nazis, and if they're paying all these big bucks for a car with some special numbers stamped in a few pieces of sheet metal, why wouldn't NOM be a penalty? If you're selling a car with a non-original 318 in it, okay whatever, nobody cares that much. But when it's the last 6-pack car and the original engine is missing, that is a bit of a let down.
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 12:52 AM

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while i can enjoy the fact that its an end of an era,,, i'm not going to slop down 45K, to own it to stick it in my garage, and brag to everyone, that i have the last (maybe) of the v coded cars,,, not my cup of tea,, i'm sure there are alot of buyers,, who need to swag,, some nuttys, to impress there friends,,,, thats who your buyers are going to be...(watch Barrett Jackson,, you'll spot them) and good for them,, if i was loaded,, i buy pure cars. the motor missing is a downer for me,, but i can appreciate what the cars is,, but my money will stay in the 68-70 b bodies,and 70-71 e bodies cars.





I would have to disagree with this statement. When I buy a car, I really couldn't care at all about impressing someone else. This car interests me for what it is, not how I could impress someone else with it....

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How can you say NOM is not going to be a penalty in this case? The only people interested in spending big bucks on this car are going to be the numbers nazis, and if they're paying all these big bucks for a car with some special numbers stamped in a few pieces of sheet metal, why wouldn't NOM be a penalty? If you're selling a car with a non-original 318 in it, okay whatever, nobody cares that much. But when it's the last 6-pack car and the original engine is missing, that is a bit of a let down.





Because there is no other car to compare with this....where are you going to find a numbers matching 72 road runner with a 440+6? Yes that would be even more desireable IF there were one out there....
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 12:55 AM

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How can you say NOM is not going to be a penalty in this case? The only people interested in spending big bucks on this car are going to be the numbers nazis, and if they're paying all these big bucks for a car with some special numbers stamped in a few pieces of sheet metal, why wouldn't NOM be a penalty? If you're selling a car with a non-original 318 in it, okay whatever, nobody cares that much. But when it's the last 6-pack car and the original engine is missing, that is a bit of a let down.




A bit of a let down? sure OK. Worth less than with the original motor? sure, I'll agree to that too.......but now go find one WITH the original motor.......oh wait, nevermind there aren't any. The car is the only 1972 440-6 Roadrunner there is whether it has the original block or not.

This whole discussion makes me wonder just how many Hemi and 440-6 cars still have their original motors.... Oh well, as I've said before; I think the value that Mopar guys place on the #'s block is a carryover from the Corvette world where it actually meant something useful.



Dave
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 01:05 AM


Some of those blocks were stamped with the owner knowing full well about it. I saw it happen in the early 90's
Posted By: EWJ

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 01:15 AM

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E-bodies did not fare well during the 71-72 transition either, IMO and others would agree. I think E-bodies fared far worse in the 71-72 transition than the B-Bodies did.




How so? The cuda had a different grille and tail lights, but the changes were not bad looking by any means. The challenger got the sad mouth grille, but I would say that is comparable to the bulky looking rear bumper the 72 plymouths had.






Again- just IMO regardng E-body vs. B-Body for MY 1972 changes, based on my feelings and others I've talked with over the years. I believe many 1971 Plymouth B-Body people would 'live with' a 1972. I do not believe as many 1971 Plymouth E-Body owners would 'live with' a 1972. Nothing against any cars, or any years. Nothing more to say: this thread needs to remain on course.
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Numbers matching is not significant to me when we are talking low production numbers (below 50) for a high performance car. They were built to be abused and most were and most lost their original engines. Expect it was abused and damaged and if they are matching it is a bonus. ie no penalty or discount for NOM.




How can you say NOM is not going to be a penalty in this case? The only people interested in spending big bucks on this car are going to be the numbers nazis, and if they're paying all these big bucks for a car with some special numbers stamped in a few pieces of sheet metal, why wouldn't NOM be a penalty? If you're selling a car with a non-original 318 in it, okay whatever, nobody cares that much. But when it's the last 6-pack car and the original engine is missing, that is a bit of a let down.






I'll allow BS27R1B to respond should he desire.

I do agree that NOM is a penalty, but the car in question here is still quite valuable regardless.
Posted By: BS27R1B

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 01:40 AM

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How can you say NOM is not going to be a penalty in this case? The only people interested in spending big bucks on this car are going to be the numbers nazis, and if they're paying all these big bucks for a car with some special numbers stamped in a few pieces of sheet metal, why wouldn't NOM be a penalty? If you're selling a car with a non-original 318 in it, okay whatever, nobody cares that much. But when it's the last 6-pack car and the original engine is missing, that is a bit of a let down.




This has been pretty well addressed by the posts above this one but let me add this. How many low production high performance cars have you chased down? I can assure you that Dave's point that most muscle cars from the 60s and 70s do not retain their original engine is true in my limited experiance.

Of the muscle cars I have owned, the majority had non matching engines. This started with my first car back in 1972. Some day I will sit down and try and figure out the percentage breakdown but off the top of my head I would guesstimate that less than 40% of my cars have had their original numbers matching engines. I have owned a number of Cars, mostly Mopars but a healthy number of GM products and a few Fords. Several run of the mill pieces and a few fairly low production models as well.

Keep in mind I started playing with these cars long before the internet and long before the big three reproduced any blocks, heads or crate engines. I used to buy pretty well any hemi part I could lay my hands on because you simply had little choice and selection was very limited. I had friends in Detroit asking all of their friends and relatives to see what parts they managed to hoard or knew about.

There were many more Hemi and 440-6 cars running around with 383s in them than you could shake a stick at. Not only were original engines destroyed in the line of high performance duty, many were removed during the energy crisis due to their 8-10 MPG. Do you know how hard it was to sell a high performance car in the mid and late 70s? My first hemi car was for sale for almost a year before I happened along on vacation in sunny California to look at it. The seller was very motivated and was not going to let me leave without it.

So I guess I became accustomed to settling for non numbers original musclecars. As long as the VIN and body numbers were good I was on it. It is pretty easy to sit back today and demand numbers matching this and that from the comfort of your computer screen.

Here is one for you numbers matching dreamers. Would you pass on a 1970 Hemi Challenger RT 4 speed car that was a running car with a 383? Ok it only had a rust-free fender tag, no sheet that I could find.

Maybe to you guys I should have passed but I paid him his $800 and it home.

I would have paid more but it was a non-shaker car!
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 02:28 AM

I think my old A12 Bee is still doing good the last I heard non matching engine, TX9, red interior and red tail stripe. They don't have to be numbers matching to turn the right heads and bring above average money.
Posted By: sogtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 03:04 AM

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My OPINION is that Andy Masny or Tom Cannon must own this car! Knowing these guys, they would do the car it's proper justice. C'mon guys, start selling your junk and get it going.. This is the Holy Grail..

MB




I would love too Mike, can I borrow a couple bucks? Maybe Larry would like a U code B5 sunroof car in trade?




I think this car is gonna go way high off the charts for my budget. I dont like the glue on looking marker lights, anyways.

I thought about it though.... Until the poll started at 50k

Im finishing my unorthidox 72 car (with sunk in 71 markers)
And my ratrod mcode bee...

On the other hand , buying this car would be a great instant divorce
Posted By: DaytonaTurbo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 03:29 AM

I never said his car would be worthless because of it's NOM, but it is a let down that I think will have an effect on value. I think possibly a larger effect than your typical garden variety 69-71 6 pack car because this one is so rare and such a limited production. It still should command a premium over a comparable 71, however if it was so rare and one of the ones that managed to keep it's original engine, IMO that would really push it to the top of the heap.
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 03:36 AM

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THIS particular car is in a class all its own. It should command a HEAVY premium over a comparable 71.

MB




Agreed x2

Mike.

P.S. I was busy cleaning my glass house today.
Posted By: sogtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 03:44 AM

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Wow, simply the most ridiculous post I have seen in 14 years on this site...




Besides skipping over the fury 6 pack posts, ( dont get me wrong , that would be a VeRY desirable car to own )
This is the first time ive tuned in for 2 nights in a row.

If it was a pink 72 cuda six pack post, itd be 29 pages by now.

Crush all the cudas / someday someone will regret not jumping on this car

Posted By: Aero426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 04:13 AM

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A bit of a let down? sure OK. Worth less than with the original motor? sure, I'll agree to that too.......but now go find one WITH the original motor.......oh wait, nevermind there aren't any. The car is the only 1972 440-6 Roadrunner there is whether it has the original block or not.

Dave




COMPARABLES, COMPARABLES, COMPARABLES!

Until there are other V code '72 Road Runners discovered, the NOM is not that big a big deal.

Sure, it would be worth more with the original engine.

Sure, it would make a difference if there was a better example available. BUT THERE ISN'T! End of story.
Posted By: PTHemi

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 04:28 AM

I just want to say that many mopar owners have a lot of interesting iron in their garages or sheds. Over the years I can honestly say that when Larry posted I always took a douuble or triple look at his 72 on the trailer ....I own a lot of Mopars and that doesn't happen too often, I think to me that sums it up...and Yes I drive all years of B-bodies, a,e, and dreaded c-bodies, and have drag raced, fiqured-8 and demo in my days....Just saying,,,,Ray
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 04:42 AM

I have to tell you a story, reading all the posts about my car made me start thinking. I guess I always knew I had a rare car but I guess sometimes I take that for granted. I remember probably in maybe 1995 I was at Chryslers at Carlisle at a seminar that Galen was giving and out of the blue someone asked about72 6 pack cars. Galen toldhim that there were 3 that they knew of, then the person asked where they were and he said that the 1 charger was at slobes the other charger was in Michigan and then he said if you want to know about the Road Runner the Owner is sitting in the back. It was kind of weird to see all these people turn around and look back, at first I looked behind me like I was looking also then I realized that I was in the last row. But it was weird to see all those people look at you like wow the car actually exists. I think it took me over an hour to get out of there after that seminar. But of course who doesn't like talking about thier cars.
Posted By: RodStRace

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 05:00 AM

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E-bodies did not fare well during the 71-72 transition either, IMO and others would agree. I think E-bodies fared far worse in the 71-72 transition than the B-Bodies did.




How so? The cuda had a different grille and tail lights, but the changes were not bad looking by any means. The challenger got the sad mouth grille, but I would say that is comparable to the bulky looking rear bumper the 72 plymouths had.




72E, small block
72B big block

That alone is enough, and don't bother with low-compression, smoged up. BB trumps SB here.

EDIT: Great story. Guess they were all looking at you like you had a horn growing out of your head...
Posted By: EWJ

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 05:13 AM

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I have to tell you a story, reading all the posts about my car made me start thinking. I guess I always knew I had a rare car but I guess sometimes I take that for granted. I remember probably in maybe 1995 I was at Chryslers at Carlisle at a seminar that Galen was giving and out of the blue someone asked about72 6 pack cars. Galen toldhim that there were 3 that they knew of, then the person asked where they were and he said that the 1 charger was at slobes the other charger was in Michigan and then he said if you want to know about the Road Runner the Owner is sitting in the back. It was kind of weird to see all these people turn around and look back, at first I looked behind me like I was looking also then I realized that I was in the last row. But it was weird to see all those people look at you like wow the car actually exists. I think it took me over an hour to get out of there after that seminar. But of course who doesn't like talking about thier cars.




Great story Larry!
Posted By: 2fast4yourBrain

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 05:41 AM

It's a Mopar! Not a GM or Ford! One can easily verify on yhe VIN that its a HP car ordered with a certain engine. On your typical GM/Ford, everything had to be matching to help verify that it wasnt a regular non-HP car. Not req'd on our Mopars.

So matching motor isnt a huge make or break on this car since it would be be hard (not impossible) to fake this car.
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 06:08 AM

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Wow, simply the most ridiculous post I have seen in 14 years on this site...




Besides skipping over the fury 6 pack posts, ( dont get me wrong , that would be a VeRY desirable car to own )
This is the first time ive tuned in for 2 nights in a row.

If it was a pink 72 cuda six pack post, itd be 29 pages by now.

Crush all the cudas / someday someone will regret not jumping on this car






I am actually enjoying this thread Andy, it was the post above mine that was totally absurd
Posted By: quick77rt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 06:42 AM

Ok, take me out and tie me to a pole and shoot me. Its not often a car like this comes along, right?

Honestly does anyone know what the cars worth today? I wasnt trying to downgrade the car at all, its clear there is a different standard on the very rare mopars.

I posted in the start its great to see this car, growing up a 72 v car was a myth many chased way before the internet was thought of.
Posted By: TiMopar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 11:51 AM

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It's a Mopar! Not a GM or Ford! One can easily verify on yhe VIN that its a HP car ordered with a certain engine. On your typical GM/Ford, everything had to be matching to help verify that it wasnt a regular non-HP car. Not req'd on our Mopars.

So matching motor isnt a huge make or break on this car since it would be be hard (not impossible) to fake this car.



THANKYOU! Now can we all stop using Chevrolet language; 'matching numbers'!
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 01:44 PM

matching numbers,, is a generic term, for a pure car, pure being, it has motor trans, and body, that the car was born with, from factory,,, its not a chevy thing.. and yes, Vette guys are crazy, that's why i'm selling mine, and buying mopars...

you may need this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Chrysler-4...r#ht_500wt_1413

whats the story behind the missing motor/trans? i'm wondering if Ma mopar,, took it out,, then was to crush the car,,, and it slipped out the back door?? into someone's garage?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 02:40 PM

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whats the story behind the missing motor/trans? i'm wondering if Ma mopar,, took it out,, then was to crush the car,,, and it slipped out the back door?? into someone's garage?




Ok Well here is the story I got from the guy I bought the car from. He was swap meet parts guy, He was at a junkyard/Used car lot and he saw this car with an Air Grabber on it. So he talked the guy into selling him the hood. While he was at the swap meet someone was looking at the hood and he mentioned that it came off of a 72 6 pack car. Apparently that person must have known about them since he started asking him all kinds of questions about where the the car was. That raised the curiosity and he didn't tell him and he started researching it himself found out what it was ans went back and bought the car and put the hood back on it. This was sometimes around 81-82. The car currently has 73000 miles on it. So I would bet it got driven and the engine gave up and it went to this car lot.
For reference I bought the car in Dunn, NC
Posted By: Mopar-Al

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 03:08 PM

So pm me a price on your mind. I may consider it
Posted By: Stewpar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 03:39 PM

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matching numbers,, is a generic term, for a pure car, pure being, it has motor trans, and body, that the car was born with, from factory,,, its not a chevy thing.. and yes, Vette guys are crazy, that's why i'm selling mine, and buying mopars...

you may need this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Chrysler-4...r#ht_500wt_1413

whats the story behind the missing motor/trans? i'm wondering if Ma mopar,, took it out,, then was to crush the car,,, and it slipped out the back door?? into someone's garage?




Do us all a favor, keep your Vette and join their boards!
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 03:42 PM

And it may have quit running, got sold to the junk yard someone spotted the six pack and bought the engine.

The engine could still be out there.
Posted By: P1970HeMICuDA

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 04:24 PM

this must be the 'Other" one...

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Posted By: bohmer2

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 05:00 PM

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This whole discussion makes me wonder just how many Hemi and 440-6 cars still have their original motors....
Dave




My guess is depending on the body style there are several more Hemi and 440-6 cars out there with Numbers matching engines that Ma Mopar originally built!!!!

Numbers have become a shady business, it is better now with the education that can be acquired through the internet but there are decades of shady business out there with these cars.
Posted By: 62maxwgn

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 06:23 PM

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And it may have quit running, got sold to the junk yard someone spotted the six pack and bought the engine.

The engine could still be out there.




Danny,I know exactly where it is !


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Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 06:28 PM

That's a good deal Bill, Larry will probably be thrilled to know.
Posted By: Joesixpack

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 06:37 PM

yes its a rare 1 by anybodys standards....being one of the last six packs adds much value,being an air grabber for 72 is a rare option,being a sunroof equipped car adds extreme value...not having original engine does not really subtract much....H440HPs are pretty easy to find...restored and on display would be a perfect ending for this 1972 Roadrunner 440+6,right colors...right options...deserves to take its place in Mopar history...for all to enjoy....I for 1 would look foward to seeing it in its glory...but it does need to be done correctly....good luck Larry finding a buyer....
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 06:42 PM

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this must be the 'Other" one...




Wow! it has the "sexy hood"
Posted By: TiMopar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 07:06 PM

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matching numbers,, is a generic term, for a pure car, pure being, it has motor trans, and body, that the car was born with, from factory,,, its not a chevy thing.. and yes, Vette guys are crazy, that's why i'm selling mine, and buying mopars...

you may need this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Chrysler-4...r#ht_500wt_1413

whats the story behind the missing motor/trans? i'm wondering if Ma mopar,, took it out,, then was to crush the car,,, and it slipped out the back door?? into someone's garage?




'Matching numbers' was never a term associated with Mopars until the Chevy dealers decided they could make a buck off them in the mid/late 80's. Mopars either have their original engine or do not.
Posted By: EV2 AAR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 09:24 PM

I don't post much,just lurk and read,but this thread spikes my interest so with everyone joining with opinions,here is mine.

As I have been into Mopars,some of them which I never would consider have grown on me enough to want and purchase.Hence,my user name,which I bought back in 02 actually from here.
As well as the 71,72 RR body style,which in the beginning never liked,but year after year going to Carlisle,changed my opinion on and now wanted one of those.
Although the one I have is not one of the couple V code 72's,is still a 72 RR GTX,N96,all #'s car which still has a low production number compared to other years.I am one of the ones in it for the love of the hobby not the investment.
It's stupid to not think anyone would'nt want their car to have its orig #'s motor.In this case with Moparlars 72 V code,I think not at all as it is still the car proven by its vin,and fender tag,and to me is a very rare piece and deserves a quality rotiss resto.
I am def not a person in favor or like the B-bodys with sunroofs,and almost refuse a car for having it,as the trunk lid luggage racks!!!
In this case ,it is what it is.To many people are wrapped up in the Hemis,A12's,winged cars,etc as being "the only thing to own" following the crowd.
I enjoy and appreciate alot of 60's,70's cars regardless if they are worth $500 or $500,000.Would walk right by a row of restored Hemi cars to go look at a survivor 383 71 Superbee.
Most of people being a collector comes from wanting what someone else can't have or very few will.
With that,Moparlar, I'd be selling the Superbird and keeping the 72 V code all the way,there's 1908 of those and so far,only one of yours!!!!!Plenty of birds out there to buy later.
Be real nice having it totally restored,would be a proud car to have!!!
I offered mine up for sale as I was not going to get to it for a couple years,with this thread and writing what I wrote,I might pull it off the market as it's not in my way,and it would be hard for me to replace that again some day.

My ,I think you're crazy to sell it to keep something that is not impossible to find again.
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 10:04 PM


ev2 aar,, what do you value this car,, AS is,, and finished? or what would you be willing to pay/offer,, since you have a gtx n96 etc..
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/22/11 11:01 PM

get you GOOO GOOO goggles on::

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-...=item3f117d62e7
Posted By: ryangtogtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 12:24 AM

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ev2 aar,, what do you value this car,, AS is,, and finished? or what would you be willing to pay/offer,, since you have a gtx n96 etc..




As is, I would put a price of around 40-45K. Maybe 50 if it comes with all of the NOS parts he has stocked up. Finished, I would value it at 125-150K. Rare and desireable don't always intersect, but in this case they come very close. If there are 11 '71 Hemi Cudas converts and only one known '72 440+6 RR with desireable options, it makes you stop to think hard. BIG money collectors drool over the opportunity to own something nobody else does and I also think this body style is just beginning to get the respect it deserves so there could be alot of upside in this car even at a 50K buy-in.
Posted By: EV2 AAR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 12:36 AM

Well,I am not in the market so it would be an unfair judgement,because there are two ways to buying a car,one, that you absolutely have to have and are not worried if you overpay and that most likely have no intentions on selling,therefore would pay more to obtain if need be.
Two,you scan the classifieds,forums,ebay,etc for what seems like a real good deal,and if can be had,you buy with the attitude that you can use and enjoy for awhile then flip,restore and sell,or plain out flip it.Unfortunately there is more of that going on than true hobbiest.
But,to answer your question,if I was in the market,and saw this car,yes,because I do like them alot,and knowing it is a real V code,my honest offer would be around the $25-30k range.As some say about the added value of the sunroof,as I said,I don't like them so it does not reflect in my price offer,and wish it did'nt have one,ntm,now because of the sunroof there has to be a full vinyl top which I also don't like.But,you don't have a choice,it's on that car.
I greatly think that if it did have its numbers motor/tranny that it could add a good amount to it.
If I owned it already,I would have an awfull hard time parting with it.
Back in the high market price 04-07 I had an offer of a pretty large sum for my AAR,which still is in project form,that most would have jumped at,more than 4 times what I paid for it.
I did'nt want the money,I want the car.
Finished value,that is a tuff call,there is and never will be somthing to compare it.It's a roll of the dice if you auction it,and me personally would never take the risk unless it was a reserve type like Mecum and I could take it back home.Look what happened to that 70 Stage1 Buick factory showcar that supposably had an appraisal of $1,850,000,ran with no res and only sold for $72k,then was on the bay at a dealer for $299k BIN.That particular crowd on hand only wanted to pay such.
To put it on Ebay with a high res to see what it could bring is a bad gauge to me, as you cannot determine the value with such a minimal exposure of only 10 days max.The certain person or persons might not be looking that particular week on the bay.
If I could obtain this car,I would pay that much,$25-30k even if this whole Moparts forum agreed that it was only worth that much restored,I would be proud to own it regardless,even at a so called loss.You are not talking about any more you are going to see,that is it,I would love to have something noone else does,regardless of its estimated value.
Again,would sell the Superbird instead of this car,be different!!!
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 04:19 AM

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My OPINION is that Andy Masny or Tom Cannon must own this car! Knowing these guys, they would do the car it's proper justice. C'mon guys, start selling your junk and get it going.. This is the Holy Grail..

MB




I totally agree. But Andy loves his wife, and he can't get lucky with the RR. I love the car. I think it's the Holy Grail of 72's as well. Great color, great engine, trans and rear...but the roof, that's the coolest !! Guy's even in this economy that thing has to be worth at least 50. Somebody would not, in myopinion, buy the car and restore it for an investment. You buy the 71/72 Plymouth B Bodies for the love of the car. I never knew they built a 71 Hemi GTX with a sunroof, so I threw a Hemi in mine. There are many 72 Road Runners out there, and many have their numbers parts still. There are even more without their numbers parts. That being said, the cool factor only goes so far in the world of real money exchanging hands. I changed my mind. $35 as is(EDIT--back to 50, this thing has a ton of cool factors). Add the NOS stuff, tack on another 5-10K. I obviously am in love with the body style. I've had my 71 Sunroof GTX for 29 years. Good luck, cool car. I say Andy or one of the Cannons should park it in their garage. Who knows, maybe it could be the next F.A.S.T. record holder?


Posted By: BigMoneyLewis

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 04:37 AM

I have thought about these '72 V codes alot over the past 20 years or so , and have felt that a fair value would be approx tripple that of a '71 B body V code , whatever the market value was at that time.
This car in question, would , for a lack of a better term, "stand the Mopar community on it's ear ". FEW cars will ever come out of the woodwork with this much weight . By this time, Most of your rarites and oddballs have come out and been made public. The four door hemis ,
the 68 Coronet Hemi (non-R/T) The '70 Charger 500 Hemi , etc.
The list of those yet to bask in the sunlight are on a very short list . The two '71 Hemi Challenger convertibles (non-R/Ts) the '72 Hemi 'Cuda we keep hearing about, and of course the V code '70 Sport Fury GTs are all yet to be accepted by the general car enthusiest ,
and are all virtually unknown to most of the world.
The '72 Six Pack Rallye Chargers and the '72 Six Barrel Road Runner GTX fall into this catgory as well .
Never been a restored example (or even a non-restored driver) in a magazine, or car show . The former Ron Slobe Charger got a write up many years ago in the mags , but it was a non-running car .
Back to the subject car . What would it be worth as it sits ? I think most of us here with enough knowledge would agree 40k minimum .
What would it be worth done ? I agree with the 125-150k estimate .
What someone is willing to pay ? Who knows . The general population doesn't know an export tag from a box of tampons , so lord only knows
what would happen if the cars price had to be established in an auction format .
Just my opinions.

Greg
Posted By: srtchallenger

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 05:05 AM

I remember when I was kid I ran into a guy in Clinton township Michigan that had a lime green superbird in his driveway. I stopped and talked to the guy and he told me about the 1972 6 pack rallye charger he had yellow. He told me there where 7 6pack cars made in 1972 and I have been searching for years never seen another until now. It doesn't mater what color the car is I could live with any color! I would love to have this car in any color..........
Posted By: HPMike

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 08:40 AM

Quote:

Quote:

My OPINION is that Andy Masny or Tom Cannon must own this car! Knowing these guys, they would do the car it's proper justice. C'mon guys, start selling your junk and get it going.. This is the Holy Grail..

MB




I totally agree. But Andy loves his wife, and he can't get lucky with the RR.




Yes Rich, but look at it this way..There are only two of these on the planet. Women are as common as rocks, and a new model doesn't have to have all of its original equiipment-just has to look good.

MB
Posted By: moparphilll

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 12:42 PM

When you own a car like Larry's 72 that is a low production # car most people assume it is a clone. 90% of the public can't read a fender tag or really care about the production #'s. This car has the Best colors and great options and top it off with the 440+6 on the hood it would be an AWESOME ride. DON'T SELL get it on the road as is, ENJOY it a little, then decide. You will be amazed how much people will love the car in UNRESTORED condition. They will walk right by the $100,000 resto to look at the dings and dent and original paint of a 40 year old Mopar! I take my unrestored 71 hemi out and it does just that...

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Posted By: High Impact

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 02:38 PM

Quote:

When you own a car like Larry's 72 that is a low production # car most people assume it is a clone. 90% of the public can't read a fender tag or really care about the production #'s. This car has the Best colors and great options and top it off with the 440+6 on the hood it would be an AWESOME ride. DON'T SELL get it on the road as is, ENJOY it a little, then decide. You will be amazed how much people will love the car in UNRESTORED condition. They will walk right by the $100,000 resto to look at the dings and dent and original paint of a 40 year old Mopar! I take my unrestored 71 hemi out and it does just that...





Agreed! How much money and effort would it take to put the 72 dated motor in the car and drive it as is? It seems like it'd be worth doing...........Granted if you did sell it someone would end up taking it all apart and what you did spend would mostly be for nothing but It sure would be sweet to drive the car, even for a short time. Then if you decided you really want to sell it then fine.


PLUS, right now it seems socially aceptable to drive cars with a "Patina" to them, hell, I too would walk past a row of restored car's to see what's so special about a faded ole GTX sitting at the end of a row. ~check this out....the only 72 6-pack GTX in the world!...............Yup, I can hear it now (how cool would that be)


Good luck in what-ever you decide!
Posted By: P1970HeMICuDA

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 02:50 PM

Larry, can you post the pics of the car on the trailer - I remember seeing them years ago....

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Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 02:52 PM

my sig pic
Posted By: P1970HeMICuDA

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 03:09 PM

Thanks Lar -had that turned off.....for anybody else....

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Posted By: quick77rt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 04:51 PM

A good long read...but has anyone forked over any cash yet for the great car that needs to be saved here???

And the only other thing I can say is everyone acts like this car just popped up, clearly this car is semi well known I find it odd the owner dont have a "call me first" list of possible buyers.

Read from page one on up, the car goes from ok to some to great from the same later in the post.

All the posts about the motor trans being removed, the car might of been set to be crushed...baaa.

Not putting the car on ebay????? We all see and complain of what overpriced junk sells for, so still why not put a crazy reserve and look for the check writer?

But here again, I dont see the car snatched up yet...reading all the posts I still dont think anyone here has an idea what its worth, its the amount that changes hands is what matters, this post and all the rest concerning this car is internet fodder.

I dont see any posts that ma mopar or any auto related museum is beating the doors down for this car so time will tell when, where and what happens to this car.

Im just waiting for one of these experts to write the 45k check and go from there....I dont see it happening.

What really are the pros and cons of this car? Start a list....
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 05:53 PM

Quote:

A good long read...but has anyone forked over any cash yet for the great car that needs to be saved here???

And the only other thing I can say is everyone acts like this car just popped up, clearly this car is semi well known I find it odd the owner dont have a "call me first" list of possible buyers.

Read from page one on up, the car goes from ok to some to great from the same later in the post.

All the posts about the motor trans being removed, the car might of been set to be crushed...baaa.

Not putting the car on ebay????? We all see and complain of what overpriced junk sells for, so still why not put a crazy reserve and look for the check writer?

But here again, I dont see the car snatched up yet...reading all the posts I still dont think anyone here has an idea what its worth, its the amount that changes hands is what matters, this post and all the rest concerning this car is internet fodder.

I dont see any posts that ma mopar or any auto related museum is beating the doors down for this car so time will tell when, where and what happens to this car.

Im just waiting for one of these experts to write the 45k check and go from there....I dont see it happening.

What really are the pros and cons of this car? Start a list....




Maybe he has been offered $45k and that isn't the # in his head that will take the car???

Maybe he hasn't really decided to let it go yet???

Deals on more expensive cars don't happen within a few days, I have bought and sold cars in the higher price range and usually there is long distance involved, banking issues, etc...
Posted By: DPelletier

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 06:01 PM

Quote:

Quote:


ev2 aar,, what do you value this car,, AS is,, and finished? or what would you be willing to pay/offer,, since you have a gtx n96 etc..




As is, I would put a price of around 40-45K. Maybe 50 if it comes with all of the NOS parts he has stocked up. Finished, I would value it at 125-150K. Rare and desireable don't always intersect, but in this case they come very close. If there are 11 '71 Hemi Cudas converts and only one known '72 440+6 RR with desireable options, it makes you stop to think hard. BIG money collectors drool over the opportunity to own something nobody else does and I also think this body style is just beginning to get the respect it deserves so there could be alot of upside in this car even at a 50K buy-in.




Pretty much sums it up for me as well.

Dave
Posted By: flypaper

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 06:22 PM

i think its worth around the high end coin mentioned here
and the main reason is not for what it is!!!!...

you can argue about its a less wanted 72,missing its orig motor or anything else
what you cannot dismiss or blow smoke over is

just look at the attention it attracts!

imo
that adds a extra intrinsic value
you cannot/will not get with most other cars....
and it out weighs the negatives by alot.

to put a number on that is hard and will depend
on how bad the next owner wants alot of attention..
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 06:27 PM

remember GOVERNOR GALEN said 1 of 1,(of known , some may be hiding), and now i'm reading 6-7 produced? and what is the one in the AD picture? with the stripes?
Posted By: EV2 AAR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 07:06 PM

Hence what I said,the superbird would be long gone first,and keep this one.You can always get another bird later,tons are always for sale,and ntm,coming back to reality where they should be as well as alot of other Mopars.
And if what some of you project for value is true ,then this 72 V code runner on the average would/could be worth more than a restored superbird.
Now its a no brainer,I say again,keep it and restore Moparlar !!!!!If not,you could be seeing this car restored and flipped across the stages of BJ,Mecum,etc..!!!!!
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 09:21 PM

Quote:

Quote:

A good long read...but has anyone forked over any cash yet for the great car that needs to be saved here???

And the only other thing I can say is everyone acts like this car just popped up, clearly this car is semi well known I find it odd the owner dont have a "call me first" list of possible buyers.

Read from page one on up, the car goes from ok to some to great from the same later in the post.

All the posts about the motor trans being removed, the car might of been set to be crushed...baaa.

Not putting the car on ebay????? We all see and complain of what overpriced junk sells for, so still why not put a crazy reserve and look for the check writer?

But here again, I dont see the car snatched up yet...reading all the posts I still dont think anyone here has an idea what its worth, its the amount that changes hands is what matters, this post and all the rest concerning this car is internet fodder.

I dont see any posts that ma mopar or any auto related museum is beating the doors down for this car so time will tell when, where and what happens to this car.

Im just waiting for one of these experts to write the 45k check and go from there....I dont see it happening.

What really are the pros and cons of this car? Start a list....




Maybe he has been offered $45k and that isn't the # in his head that will take the car???

Maybe he hasn't really decided to let it go yet???

Deals on more expensive cars don't happen within a few days, I have bought and sold cars in the higher price range and usually there is long distance involved, banking issues, etc...




Also, it seems to me Larry is interested in it going to someone who will appreciate it for what it is IF he decides to sell it, not just sell it on ebay to the highest anonymous bidder. Remember, this started out as a WIW post, not a for sale ad...
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 11:34 PM

I think it still is a what is it worth. My guess is Larry appreciates a little bit of feed back on what others think and feel about the car. This is one that does not come up ever day and I think chewing the fat about it before making decisions would be the logical thing to do. I actually hope he decides to finish what he started, he's earned it.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/23/11 11:41 PM

Well I am probably going to disapoint some people but I think I have decided to go through all my parts this next week while I am off work and see exactly what I have. Part of the problem is I have been buying parts for years and I have boxes that I have not even opened yet. I am going to try and get some rough quotes on paint and body work. So I want to thank all of you for the replies but after thinking about this for a week I think if anything was going to happen I will sell the Bird and do the 72. How can I let go a 1 of 1 car when I can always buy another Bird. Of course now I have to try and find someone that I can work with and trust for the body work.

Larry
Posted By: dannysbee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 12:27 AM

I am glad Larry, I think you made the right decision
There very well could have been some regrets selling it.
Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 12:52 AM

Good for you Larry! Let me know if you need my help on anything, I have travelled the country for the last 5 years and hung around alot of shops and high-dollar investors getting cars done, so I have pretty much figured out who to talk to and who to stay away from.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 12:54 AM

Quote:

Good for you Larry! Let me know if you need my help on anything, I have travelled the country for the last 5 years and hung around alot of shops and high-dollar investors getting cars done, so I have pretty much figured out who to talk to and who to stay away from.




Jim I will take any considerations on shops especially from people I have known for years.

Thanks Larry
Posted By: ryangtogtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 12:57 AM

Quote:

Well I am probably going to disapoint some people but I think I have decided to go through all my parts this next week while I am off work and see exactly what I have. Part of the problem is I have been buying parts for years and I have boxes that I have not even opened yet. I am going to try and get some rough quotes on paint and body work. So I want to thank all of you for the replies but after thinking about this for a week I think if anything was going to happen I will sell the Bird and do the 72. How can I let go a 1 of 1 car when I can always buy another Bird. Of course now I have to try and find someone that I can work with and trust for the body work.

Larry




Awesome Larry! Let me know if you need any input about the resto. I went through the whole gamut with my car and am lucky to have found someone reasonable, knowledgeable & trustworthy to finish my car after we were initially fleeced by a well known resto shop. I can't wait to see the car in it's glory.
Posted By: EV2 AAR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 01:00 AM

Quote:

Well I am probably going to disapoint some people but I think I have decided to go through all my parts this next week while I am off work and see exactly what I have. Part of the problem is I have been buying parts for years and I have boxes that I have not even opened yet. I am going to try and get some rough quotes on paint and body work. So I want to thank all of you for the replies but after thinking about this for a week I think if anything was going to happen I will sell the Bird and do the 72. How can I let go a 1 of 1 car when I can always buy another Bird. Of course now I have to try and find someone that I can work with and trust for the body work.

Larry





That a boy Larry !!!!!
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 01:01 AM

Make sure you make a project thread on it so we can see all the progress
Posted By: 68427vette

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 01:06 AM

amen,, the thread can die....

and a new one will be born... HHMm is it dec 25th?

keep them both, can't be to expensive,, if you do some of the work yourself
Dissassemble,, and the final rebuild,, which I would personally DO, if it was my car.. the fun stuff...


my body guys WORK for a HIGH end, resto shop,, and are allowed, and DO side work,,, what they do for 12-20K in shop they do for me at 6-8K... if they work in my shop,, which makes sense. no overhead. plus i do all their sand blasting... win win...
they are getting readyto do my buddies 69 FORD fastback,
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 02:06 AM

Quote:

amen,, the thread can die....

and a new one will be born... HHMm is it dec 25th?

keep them both, can't be to expensive,, if you do some of the work yourself
Dissassemble,, and the final rebuild,, which I would personally DO, if it was my car.. the fun stuff...


my body guys WORK for a HIGH end, resto shop,, and are allowed, and DO side work,,, what they do for 12-20K in shop they do for me at 6-8K... if they work in my shop,, which makes sense. no overhead. plus i do all their sand blasting... win win...
they are getting readyto do my buddies 69 FORD fastback,




I plan on doing disassembly myself no problem there, including most of the mechanical. Will just need a great body man for repair and paint.

Larry
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 02:25 AM

My daughter found pics of the Bird.
Posted By: quick77rt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 02:32 AM

Thats cool hes gonna keep it and do it right!

As for the "big deals take time bs" thats exactly what it is BS, This is far from a big money trans. I paid 35k for my charger 500 and just as the 4-5 cars prior to that its a simple call to the bank or a drive and 30 minutes to wire the funds.

An hour on the phone with the seller, 1/2 hour at the bank, call the transport guy....done end of deal.

But again, its good to see the owner is keeping the car.
Posted By: Aero426

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 02:43 AM

I think that is a smart decision Larry. Also, a 6 pack 4-speed Superbird in blue with a white interior is nothing to sneeze at. That is not a hard car to sell if you decide to go through with keeping the '72. It may be hard to sell the Superbird, but you can always go back to that or even a 440 Daytona later if you choose.
Posted By: sogtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 03:28 AM

Good choice, now ill be able to sleep peacefully!
Posted By: quick77rt

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 03:32 AM

Or maybe that big 45-50k offer didnt come through might have something to do with keeping it, cant see passing up 45k on the car as is if it were offered.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 03:36 AM

Quote:

Or maybe that big 45-50k offer didnt come through might have something to do with keeping it, cant see passing up 45k on the car as is if it were offered.




Really had nothing to do with the money. If I were to sell45 would have been plenty. Talked to my kids and decided to keep the car

Larry
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 03:36 AM

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. 1 of 1 no brainer to keep the 72 V-Code like I said before and you can check it out. Sell the Superbird that they made a bunch of.
Posted By: EV2 AAR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 04:02 AM

Quote:

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. 1 of 1 no brainer to keep the 72 V-Code like I said before and you can check it out. Sell the Superbird that they made a bunch of.




I second that,money is just a pile of paper,I'd rather have the car.Not because its a one of one,but any car that I so desired or always wanted,the money is irrelevant after that.
I had a standing huge offer for my AAR project,that some of you would have jumped on if you owned it,but I did'nt and don't ever look back with regret either!
Money.......to many people in the hobby,not just the Mopar crowd, are to worried about what their car is worth,like they have something they have to prove or someone to impress.
Posted By: gatorgrain

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 04:52 AM

$$$does'nt mean anything? Ha.Ha.Ha. $means EVERYTHING!,especially too guys named..., thats why how now his 1-#7 72/440/6pk roadrunners being peddled/prostituded on the Supercar Registry
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 05:02 AM

Quote:

$$$does'nt mean anything? Ha.Ha.Ha. $means EVERYTHING!,especially too guys named..., thats why how now his 1-#7 72/440/6pk roadrunners being peddled/prostituded on the Supercar Registry



I don't recall saying I was selling it there. Show me where I did that
Posted By: mopargem

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 05:14 AM

Larry dont listen to the haters, they're funny ....if you can swing it keep the other bird also, money spent will be spread out restoring the 72
Posted By: 70440+6bbl

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 05:16 AM

Quote:

As for the "big deals take time bs" thats exactly what it is BS, This is far from a big money trans. I paid 35k for my charger 500 and just as the 4-5 cars prior to that its a simple call to the bank or a drive and 30 minutes to wire the funds.

An hour on the phone with the seller, 1/2 hour at the bank, call the transport guy....done end of deal.




Not quite what I was getting at, but OK...
Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 05:18 AM

Great news Mr. Larry. Here is a goal. 2012 Carlisle.. Let us know .. I think it's 1972's turn in the dealership theme of things next year.



By the way, any pics of the 71 RR Drag Car?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 05:18 AM

Apparently when someone tells me about anothr site I am not allowed to discuss my car there........yea right like I need someones permission
Posted By: BS27R1B

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 06:35 AM

Awesome!
Go for it.

Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 06:37 AM

Quote:

Great news Mr. Larry. Here is a goal. 2012 Carlisle.. Let us know .. I think it's 1972's turn in the dealership theme of things next year.



By the way, any pics of the 71 RR Drag Car?



I never thought of that 40 years not a bad idea
Posted By: Golden-Arm

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 06:37 AM

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$$$does'nt mean anything? Ha.Ha.Ha. $means EVERYTHING!,especially too guys named..., thats why how now his 1-#7 72/440/6pk roadrunners being peddled/prostituded on the Supercar Registry





i remember my first beer........



unglish speeek muck?
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 06:59 AM

Even though selfishly I'd love to be the next owner of your car, I think you made the right decision Larry
Posted By: nakita7

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:46 AM

Sounds good Larry, hope to talk to you in the future again about it! Keep me posted should any new developments arise. Thanks
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 04:04 PM

This year is the 40th anniverscary of the 1972 model year at Carlisle . Wouldn't it be cool to have a little GTX reunion there? C'mon Larry lets get 'em together. It would be cool to get all the sunroof cars in one place. We can't let the A12 and T/A AAR guys have all the reunions. What do you think?
Posted By: 694406

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 05:10 PM

Okay, I'm finaly cuaght up on this thread. I think it's a good choice keeping her. Now I'm not going back through this thread to quote who said it but, I agree 100% with putting a drive train in it and having some fun as is. I've owned a shiney Hemi car and an unrestored 440+6, both 71 Plymouth B-bodies. Believe me, you'll have way more fun, less $$ invested and get way more attention putting her back on the road as is. Heck you can always restore it down the road!!
Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 05:58 PM

Larry good to hear you made a decision. I have a statement around 1972 6BBL Road Runners from research I have done through out the years hunting for one of the two 72 4406BBL Road Runner.

I have seen reference to your Road Runner in this and other treads being referred to as a RR/GTX. Correct me if I am wrong, you had said the car never seemed to have evidence of GTX emblems on it. Being it is a 6BBL V-Code it would have to be a Road Runner and not a Road Runner / GTX. The GTX option in 72 referred to a 440 4BBL engine package and not a 440 6BBL engine. Good luck with your restoration keep us posted on progress. Hope to see it soon.

I have a question, when restoring your car do you plan to restore it as a Road Runner or RR/GTX?
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 06:26 PM

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Larry good to hear you made a decision. I have a statement around 1972 6BBL Road Runners from research I have done through out the years hunting for one of the two 72 4406BBL Road Runner.

I have seen reference to your Road Runner in this and other treads being referred to as a RR/GTX. Correct me if I am wrong, you had said the car never seemed to have evidence of GTX emblems on it. Being it is a 6BBL V-Code it would have to be a Road Runner and not a Road Runner / GTX. The GTX option in 72 referred to a 440 4BBL engine package and not a 440 6BBL engine. Good luck with your restoration keep us posted on progress. Hope to see it soon.

Actually if you look at chrysler paperwork it says a 72 roadrunner with a 440 is called a rr/gtx it does not state specific 4bbl. That is what most people think since they never saw a 6pack 72.

Larry

I have a question, when restoring your car do you plan to restore it as a Road Runner or RR/GTX?


Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 06:49 PM

It is known a 4BBL was never offered in a RR. Also the Pilot 72 6BBL RR never refers to the GTX name plate.

Do you think your RR was a RR/GTX? Interesting. I hope when you take it apart you can find out more info. Very intersting and historic Road Runner.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 06:56 PM

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It is known a 4BBL was never offered in a RR. Also the Pilot 72 6BBL RR never refers to the GTX name plate.

Do you think your RR was a RR/GTX? Interesting. I hope when you take it apart you can find out more info. Very intersting and historic Road Runner.




In 72-74 a 4bbl was offered in roadrunners. As far as the gtx emblems they were stick on so they were easily removed and I can't say I have looked that hard at that. I will beguine week though
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:15 PM

I think he meant that the 440 4 bbl was not offered in the 72 rr and if you had one it was a gtx option on the 72 rr. The 340 and the 400 were both equipped with the 4 bbl. The Petty blue 72 rr that was on ebay had to be the gtx option as it had the 440, but he said i was a very rare rr. I am not sure if the gtx option in 72 was a code on the fender tag like the rr option on the volare but would make sense to be coded like that.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:18 PM

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I think he meant that the 440 4 bbl was not offered in the 72 rr and if you had one it was a gtx option on the 72 rr. The 340 and the 400 were both equipped with the 4 bbl. The Petty blue 72 rr that was on ebay had to be the gtx option as it had the 440, but he said i was a very rare rr. I am not sure if the gtx option in 72 was a code on the fender tag like the rr option on the volare but would make sense to be coded like that.




There is no code for a gtx option on a 72. If you ordered a 72 with a 440 they put gtx badges on it. That's all it is nothing more.

Larry
Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:22 PM

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I think he meant that the 440 4 bbl was not offered in the 72 rr and if you had one it was a gtx option on the 72 rr. The 340 and the 400 were both equipped with the 4 bbl. The Petty blue 72 rr that was on ebay had to be the gtx option as it had the 440, but he said i was a very rare rr. I am not sure if the gtx option in 72 was a code on the fender tag like the rr option on the volare but would make sense to be coded like that.




Correct 1972 Road Runner Engine options are 340 400 & 440+6BBL

U code = RR / GTX Engine 440 4BBL.

This has nothing to do with WIW. Larry at this moment you have the only example we can use as a reference. I want to thank you for answering these questions. I am very into the research of the 1972 V-Code Road Runners.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:25 PM

I wonder why the center of the universe isn't posting lately??? Hope he's OK.
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:29 PM

He's in the garage with a torch restoring one of those unwanted c-boats
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:33 PM

I can understand what Ralph is saying, since the pack was available in Road Runners and the 4bbl wasn't maybe it wasn't delivered with GTX emblems. Intresting
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:33 PM

maybe he soaked it in rust desolver and he's desperately looking for it?
Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:46 PM

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I can understand what Ralph is saying, since the pack was available in Road Runners and the 4bbl wasn't maybe it wasn't delivered with GTX emblems. Intresting




Also I don't think any of the four 1972 6BBL (Charger - Road Runner) came with 4 Speeds. What do you know about this Larry or Tommy?
Posted By: Mastershake340

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 07:51 PM

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I wonder why the center of the universe isn't posting lately??? Hope he's OK.



I think he was scolded by a mod for turning posts like this into discussions about his cars. Probably be best not to try to bait him.
BTW, this is one of the most interesting cars I've ever heard talked about here on Moparts. I hope to get to see it sometime here in the Chicago area! My best wishes toward its restoration!
I'll go back to lurking now......
Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 08:11 PM

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I wonder why the center of the universe isn't posting lately??? Hope he's OK.




YOU RANG?

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Posted By: ph23vo

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 08:20 PM

i was in MAUI.. yes i got scolded by a mod.. my car got tons of exposure on more threads than i could have hoped for..and now you guys miss me!
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 08:20 PM

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I think he meant that the 440 4 bbl was not offered in the 72 rr and if you had one it was a gtx option on the 72 rr. The 340 and the 400 were both equipped with the 4 bbl. The Petty blue 72 rr that was on ebay had to be the gtx option as it had the 440, but he said i was a very rare rr. I am not sure if the gtx option in 72 was a code on the fender tag like the rr option on the volare but would make sense to be coded like that.




Correct 1972 Road Runner Engine options are 340 400 & 440+6BBL

U code = RR / GTX Engine 440 4BBL.

This has nothing to do with WIW. Larry at this moment you have the only example we can use as a reference. I want to thank you for answering these questions. I am very into the research of the 1972 V-Code Road Runners.




See I never looked at it that way. To me 72 Roadrunners were available with the 400 standard and the 340 440 4 bbl and 440 6 bbl were optional. If you ordered the 440 you got GTX emblems. Since they are all RM code they are all roadrunners. Just some got Some emblems. There was no seperate code for it. I seem to remember factory paperwork that says that all 440's got GTX Emblems I am going to look for that tomorrow at work

As far as 4 speed you could not get a 440 6 bbl in 72 with a 4 speed that is part of the paperwork also.

Here is the paperwork on 440's becoming RR/GTX.
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/1972PlymouthAdvanceInfo/1972_Plymouth_5.jpg

Larry
Posted By: 694406

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 08:52 PM

What's on your passenger side dash insert? 72 GTX's also got the GTX badge there.
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 09:00 PM

So according to that literature you have a RR GTX.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 09:03 PM

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What's on your passenger side dash insert? 72 GTX's also got the GTX badge there.




The only got 1 on each fender and on the deck lid in 72. Standard Roadrunner on Dash
Posted By: EV2 AAR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 09:06 PM

That is how my orig window sticker reads,it is a RR,RM23,then in the options,E86 was added.

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Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 10:24 PM

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That is how my orig window sticker reads,it is a RR,RM23,then in the options,E86 was added.




Very cool. Nice info.
Posted By: 694406

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 10:48 PM

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What's on your passenger side dash insert? 72 GTX's also got the GTX badge there.




The only got 1 on each fender and on the deck lid in 72. Standard Roadrunner on Dash




I did not know that. I parted out a largely unmolested but very rusty 72 RR/GTX that had the GTX insert. I guess someone could've changed it early on though.
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/24/11 11:34 PM

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What's on your passenger side dash insert? 72 GTX's also got the GTX badge there.




The only got 1 on each fender and on the deck lid in 72. Standard Roadrunner on Dash




I did not know that. I parted out a largely unmolested but very rusty 72 RR/GTX that had the GTX insert. I guess someone could've changed it early on though.




That's interesting since my 72 RR/GTX also has the GTX emblem on the dash insert. I always thought someone had changed it at some point in the past but maybe the plant used up the dash emblems that were left?

Mike.
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/25/11 01:43 AM

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I did not know that. I parted out a largely unmolested but very rusty 72 RR/GTX that had the GTX insert. I guess someone could've changed it early on though.




That's interesting since my 72 RR/GTX also has the GTX emblem on the dash insert. I always thought someone had changed it at some point in the past but maybe the plant used up the dash emblems that were left?

Mike.




Could have been an early VS late thing. When was your car built? From what I've seen on original cars they mostly came with the road runner on the dash...but I don't know 72s as well as 71s
Posted By: NV69B7RR

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/25/11 01:58 AM

Congratulations Larry for making the decision to restore the 72! You're doing the right thing. Just please start a build thread on it. That car will be a jaw dropper when done..
Posted By: moparmike1

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/25/11 03:29 AM

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I did not know that. I parted out a largely unmolested but very rusty 72 RR/GTX that had the GTX insert. I guess someone could've changed it early on though.




That's interesting since my 72 RR/GTX also has the GTX emblem on the dash insert. I always thought someone had changed it at some point in the past but maybe the plant used up the dash emblems that were left?

Mike.




Could have been an early VS late thing. When was your car built? From what I've seen on original cars they mostly came with the road runner on the dash...but I don't know 72s as well as 71s




Sorry, I don't know the build date off hand and the car is in storage.

Mike.
Posted By: Joesixpack

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/25/11 07:24 PM

ok Larry great news that you decided to restore it,if you need any help let me know....avail.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/26/11 06:12 PM

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I did not know that. I parted out a largely unmolested but very rusty 72 RR/GTX that had the GTX insert. I guess someone could've changed it early on though.




That's interesting since my 72 RR/GTX also has the GTX emblem on the dash insert. I always thought someone had changed it at some point in the past but maybe the plant used up the dash emblems that were left?

Mike.




I looked in all 3 of my 72 parts books today and none of them show a GTX nameplate for the dash.

Larry

Could have been an early VS late thing. When was your car built? From what I've seen on original cars they mostly came with the road runner on the dash...but I don't know 72s as well as 71s




Sorry, I don't know the build date off hand and the car is in storage.

Mike.



I looked in all my 72 parts books and all they show is a Road Runner plaque for the dash

Larry
Posted By: chargervert

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/26/11 09:15 PM

Larry,according to the photo of your fender tag that was posted earlier in this thread the scheduled production date for your 72 V code Road Runner is August 7th 1971.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 12:21 AM

So that is the first week of production then?
Posted By: flypaper

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 12:29 AM

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I did not know that. I parted out a largely unmolested but very rusty 72 RR/GTX that had the GTX insert. I guess someone could've changed it early on though.




That's interesting since my 72 RR/GTX also has the GTX emblem on the dash insert. I always thought someone had changed it at some point in the past but maybe the plant used up the dash emblems that were left?

Mike.




I looked in all 3 of my 72 parts books today and none of them show a GTX nameplate for the dash.

Larry

Could have been an early VS late thing. When was your car built? From what I've seen on original cars they mostly came with the road runner on the dash...but I don't know 72s as well as 71s




Sorry, I don't know the build date off hand and the car is in storage.

Mike.



I looked in all my 72 parts books and all they show is a Road Runner plaque for the dash

Larry




that book could of been already printed
before they even thought of making your car.
like alot of things in manufacturing, i would suspect it would be a supply and demand type thing more then anything else.
Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 02:36 AM

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So that is the first week of production then?




Earliest build dates I have for 72 cars:
714 - one road runner and one Satellite
716 - one road runner

the next closest build date isn't till 806
Posted By: Devil

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 03:06 AM

Larry was kind enough to let me view the car today. I thought I would share the pictures with you guys.



1972 Plymouth Road Runner GTX 440-6 Pictures
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 03:15 AM

Larry if you want to do the engine compartment only in the garage, before installing the motor if you plan on doing a throw it together and drive it now, Tower Paints make the big aerosol cans that match the original paint really well. I bought some f6 for my road runner and it went on great and looked great.
Posted By: 68SportFury

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 04:05 AM

Saw Ryan's pictures of Larry's car on Flickr tonight. I see solid floors, a few rust holes in the door skins and lower quarters and a few dents. Cars much worse than this have been brought back.

I applaud Larry's decision to keep and restore the car and hope to see it at a future Carlisle show.
Posted By: flypaper

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 04:34 AM

hmm
i see a few interesting details there..tach cluster, 2 spd wipers,strato vent dash applique?,auto console....
not to side track away too far
whats the story with the gtx ??
rubber bumper car??
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 01:32 PM

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Larry was kind enough to let me view the car today. I thought I would share the pictures with you guys.


1972 Plymouth Road Runner GTX 440-6 Pictures




Might wanna block out the vin, as the owner did on the first page...
Posted By: gts340swinger

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 03:44 PM

Larry,

Glad to see this car is going to be coming to light for people to see. I personally like the 72 RR and Charger a lot MORE than the 71's.
Some people will never be able to separate the money from the love of the cars. This is obvious by some of the posts here. Don't let them discourage you. Enjoy your car!
Posted By: Devil

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 04:39 PM

Done and gone. I thought there was a un-edited picture of the fender tag on here earlier. In 7+ pages I guess I was wrong.
Posted By: Moparlar

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 04:56 PM

The fender tag was no big deal, that photo is from years ago. The vin number has been published many times since then.
In fact I posted a dash tag shot. along with the door sticker
Larry
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/27/11 06:05 PM

Even if this car wasn't super rare it would be cool anyway. A lot of the time the ultra rare cars aren't necessarily something you'd want to drive or be seen in, this one I'd have a hard time not driving.

Sheldon
Posted By: m46rat

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/28/11 01:22 AM

Mod's: In view of the super short lifespan of the WIW threads, I think in this case it might be a good idea to transfer this thread to one of the other subject listings so that it can continue to live on. There is a lot of great information, etc contained in this thread and it would be a pity for it to suddenly spontaneously combust, so to speak.
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car - 12/28/11 02:11 AM

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Mod's: In view of the super short lifespan of the WIW threads, I think in this case it might be a good idea to transfer this thread to one of the other subject listings so that it can continue to live on. There is a lot of great information, etc contained in this thread and it would be a pity for it to suddenly spontaneously combust, so to speak.




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