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1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread

Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/09/11 01:04 AM

Just wanted to start a thread to document a 1940 Plymouth that Mopar_Ron and I are putting together. I purchased the truck a few years ago, but I started working on it this summer.

We put the truck on a 1980's Toyota pickup chassis and it'll be setup to resemble a traditional' type of hot rod.



I cannot find the photos from when we started, but I'll post the pics I have right now.

Mocking up the front fenders



Ron showed me how to make a cab mount and I proceeded to make the next five. Ron = OVERkill.

We then decided we were going to "squattie" the truck to get it that much lower, so I assembled the front clip, measured where everything looked good, and then marked the cab where the bolt holes are on the fender. Then we pulled the whole front clip off and drilled the holes we marked, while also welding in some nice 1/4" studs to make everything really simple for removal.



After some more examination there was a anonymous vote that the stock plymouth was punched in too bad. Ron had the idea to take a piece 1x1/4" plate and bent it to the contour of the front of his '41 Willys. We then built these center section pieces off of that a some pieces of 1/2"x1/2" tubing. We didn't want to directly copy his, so this will look like a '40 Willys/Hybrid/Custom/Headscratcher.





















Mind you, this was ALL done without access to an english wheel.
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - 08/09/11 01:11 AM

Checking space for motor mounts and relocating the strut rods to behind the control arm, versus in front which was gonna fight with my radiator room.

We also cut out the whole torsion bar suspension/cross member, etc.





Test fit and in the 318/727 goes. We then proceeded to make motor and tranny mounts from some 1/8" steel plate and some spare roll bar tubing.



Our AWESOME removable tranny mount.



My awesome LB Swap meet score - $40.

Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - 08/09/11 01:24 AM

After removing the torsion bar suspension setup, I had committed to going with airbags. I ended up stealing some from Ron that I must replace at a later date when funds are available.

We started by removing the shock, shock mount, lower snubber and some bracing that we will box in later.

It was originally just going to sit low, but after we started cutting, I decided it needed to be lower, and a little lower...







Trimming our homemade airbag plates.











We did the same trimming to both sides.^^

Test fit



After welding



New height



Then we did the other side the exact same way. We're getting pretty good at this.



This is a MUST WATCH video.



This is how low it will set, whenever parked.



It has 9" of fully adjustable travel.





UP



Gasser-wannabe





and down...







Posted By: rowin4

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/09/11 04:15 AM

Paint the grill cardboards white and call it MATER. Great pic's and project. Keep them coming.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/09/11 05:31 PM

the truck is coming along nicely
can you tell Jon is happy about how low it can go.
he did a little on the floor area to then on to making the sheet metal to cover it and then make a trans tunnel
then on to making the headers....










Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/09/11 08:07 PM

Why the 80s Toyota PU chassis?
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/09/11 10:21 PM

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Why the 80s Toyota PU chassis?




we had it

This is a budget build,
had the chassis
had the engine and trans
have a radiator
have a gauge set(A100 van)
have a shifter
have some wheels
have a steering column
had the air bags and compressor
have bed sides and rear fenders
making a set of headers
have some seats


need windows
manual valve body
mufflers
wiring
hoses and belts(might have them to)

teaching Jon how to weld
fabricate
metal work
body work
and get a cool old truck road worthy on a budget
Ron...
Posted By: moparx

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/10/11 01:53 AM

excellent way to have fun and as a bonus, get a cool ol truck back on the road !
Posted By: Webster

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/10/11 04:43 AM

Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/10/11 04:44 AM

Does the 80s Toyota chassis line up well with it?
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/10/11 06:16 AM

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Does the 80s Toyota chassis line up well with it?




yes it does,BUT they have torsion bars and the adjusters would wind up in the trans pan so that is why we decided to go with the air bags.
but the frame rails run great with the truck body,
I have one under my race truck and it has a must II frontend on it and that went well too,
But now I might be going with a gasser axle under it. Ron...
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/10/11 06:41 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Does the 80s Toyota chassis line up well with it?




yes it does,BUT they have torsion bars and the adjusters would wind up in the trans pan so that is why we decided to go with the air bags.
but the frame rails run great with the truck body,
I have one under my race truck and it has a must II frontend on it and that went well too,
But now I might be going with a gasser axle under it. Ron...




Are air bag suspensions easier to install? Are you using them front and rear? I dont know anything about them.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/10/11 07:03 AM

this was our first time using air bags.
and they were pretty easy to set up
we had the bags and brackets they hook to.
but we had to modify them to work as they were for the rear of a truck,
we cut the brackets down to fit to the frame and to the lower a arm and welded them on
we are going to use them on the rear as well. Ron...
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/10/11 08:46 PM

Quote:

Paint the grill cardboards white and call it MATER. Great pic's and project. Keep them coming.




Dude! Do it! That would be so awesome to see at a car show! That would be cool if you could find those sun visor/shades that had the eyes like they do in cars.
Posted By: wedgeheaded

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/11/11 04:28 PM

Cool project. How will it be titled, 40 Ply or 80 Toyota? The reason I'm asking is I have an 84 Ramcharger 4x2 that I started to restore but lost interest in. The frame is blasted and painted and I hate to scrap it. I've often thought of doing a SR on that frame but it would be titled as an 84 RC. I didn't want to pour money into it for nothing.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/11/11 05:00 PM

we always register ours as the year of the body.
less likely to have a problem if a cop stops you and looks at a 30's-40's body and a registration for a newer car(truck).
Posted By: wedgeheaded

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/11/11 07:59 PM

That's what I figured. The best part of my plan was I had a title. I've got a 29 whipet that I'd thought to do into a woody but figured it'd end up getting me into problems.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/12/11 05:05 AM

well Jon is at work so I thought I would post some pics of the work he got done today.
he got the trans tunnel and floor welded in and we got the header pipes welded on. Ron...











Posted By: bohmer2

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/12/11 10:00 PM

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we are going to use them on the rear as well. Ron...




Are you just going to run bags on the back or will you run bags with shocks? I have heard of people getting a floating feeling out of the rear end with a 4 link and bags but no shocks.

Do the front air bags line up vertically? In some of the photos the top seem to be shifted inward towards the engine and the bottoms outward in an almost Z like fashion, not sure if this would affect the strength or stability of the bags.

Great photos of progress, any thought put into the radiator cross member and what are the dimensions of the radiator being used?
Posted By: moparx

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/13/11 01:39 AM

how did you guys bend the tunnel ? on the humpback, i did mine the ol-skool way..... find something about the right radius & muscle it around it to get the contour needed. 16ga. sure do get tough to bend ! i'll hafta get some update pics. you guys are doing a great job ! too bad you guys don't like snow. i could use the help on my humpback !
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/13/11 01:54 AM

we ARE going to run shocks in the Rear and the front along with the air bags and today we decided we are going to change out the leaf springs in the rear for a triangulated 4 bar setup (I have it laying around).
the bags in the front when completely aired down set flat with the plate that mount them to the lower arm and they have an upward angle to them on the top plate where it is mounted to the frame so when the bag is aired UP it looks like the bag has a sharper angle to it but that is just the way it works out. we checked out this article where they did this on a toyota (check the link below) Ron...



link:
http://www.minitruckinweb.com/tech/chassis/0702mt_toyota_truck_front_air_bags/bag_mounts.html
Posted By: Webster

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/13/11 04:58 AM

Nice Floor and Headers
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/13/11 05:11 AM

Quote:

how did you guys bend the tunnel ? on the humpback, i did mine the ol-skool way..... find something about the right radius & muscle it around it to get the contour needed. 16ga. sure do get tough to bend ! i'll hafta get some update pics. you guys are doing a great job ! too bad you guys don't like snow. i could use the help on my humpback !






we used 20ga so it was easier to roll and YES we did it the old fashioned way bent it over a nice big pipe till it got close and then kept fitting it Ron....
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/14/11 06:14 AM

folllowing along,,,,
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/18/11 04:52 AM

It's been a few days since the last update, but this is the progress we've made on the truck.

Drivers side header



Starting on the passenger side header







Cutting out the main tube w/the plasma cutter



Mocked up



All welded up



Made patches and welded up all the holes in the firewall







The gauges were next





Ron's addiction



Test fit



Modified to fit our custom setup







Getting ready to tear down the rear for the 4-bar suspension. We will be starting that tomorrow morning.



This is what Ron will be working on



Posted By: Webster

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/19/11 03:39 AM

So that's how it's done!! Great work GUYS!
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/19/11 08:27 PM

Quote:

So that's how it's done!! Great work GUYS!




Just a little cutting and a little welding and these rusty old cabs start to look like they just might run again.

I am back to working on the chopped/sectioned COE
and helping Jon too.
spent the last week moving cars and parts around and now we have plenty of room to work in. Ron...
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/20/11 03:53 AM

What about fitting the steering column and steering shaft before making the headers. What are you gonna use for a steering column?
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/20/11 05:56 AM

Quote:

What about fitting the steering column and steering shaft before making the headers. What are you gonna use for a steering column?




The shaft will shoot right under the headers,we checked that for fit before we welded anything up

we have a few ways to go with a column
1 is with a tilt column we have here or
2 we have a stock column out of one of the COE's
that is what Jon is thinking about going with
just to keep it simple. Ron...
Posted By: 340SHORTY

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/23/11 03:00 AM

I spy some "fatty"..

neat project
Posted By: Cooter

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/24/11 12:10 AM

Beautiful work, guys! And inspiring.

What's the hood going to look like?
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 08/24/11 03:11 AM

Quote:

Beautiful work, guys! And inspiring.

What's the hood going to look like?




Jon wants to run it hoodless

I want him to make one fit it. we will see how it goes. Ron...
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 09/02/11 06:16 PM

Jon has been busy with other stuff so nothing new has been done to the truck in the last 2 weeks.
will post some more progress when it happens Ron...
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 09/02/11 06:32 PM

Quote:

Jon has been busy with other stuff so nothing new has been done to the truck in the last 2 weeks.
will post some more progress when it happens Ron...




So how is the COE project coming along.

I'm still looking for a Dakota donor for my 39 Plymouth pick up. But the free budget has been limiting me.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 09/03/11 04:33 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Jon has been busy with other stuff so nothing new has been done to the truck in the last 2 weeks.
will post some more progress when it happens Ron...




So how is the COE project coming along.

I'm still looking for a Dakota donor for my 39 Plymouth pick up. But the free budget has been limiting me.




thanks for asking, I got 4 of the body mounts finished, two more to get done today.
and then I hope to mount a steering column and shaft.
then I want to get the engine and trans set in place to get ready to make mounts Ron...
Posted By: elitecustombody

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 12/06/11 10:08 PM

Ron, where are the updates? BTW, where can I find a decent 37 truck project?Looks like you have a few..
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 12/29/11 08:29 PM

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Ron, where are the updates? BTW, where can I find a decent 37 truck project?Looks like you have a few..





not much to report lately on Jon's project but we did get all the 4 bar rear setup tacked in place and the rear air bag stuff as well,just need to do the finish welding. but now the back is adjustable just like the front. we need to get 1 more controller for the air bags and then mount a tank and compressor(we are using the garage air for now)

and sorry I don't know where there are any trucks for sale. I have 2 35-37 cabs and 1 is being built as my 35 COE car hauler and the other cab is slated to be a turned in to a 35 roadster PU in the future. Ron...

P.S. will post some more pics of the rear set up later today....
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 10/06/12 01:04 AM

Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 11/27/12 07:24 AM

I've been working on the truck a decent amount... just never post on Moparts anymore.
Posted By: MuuMuu101

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 11/27/12 09:07 PM

Quote:

I've been working on the truck a decent amount... just never post on Moparts anymore.




A little update would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 01/16/13 02:49 AM

#tease

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Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 01/16/13 06:47 PM

OK just post some more pictures and show where you are at as of now

the truck has been completely disassembled,
frame has been painted,

and the bottom of the cab has been painted with Gravitex

the cab is mounted on the frame for the LAST time.

and now the fire wall is finished and ready for paint.

all the front suspension parts are painted and some are put back on.

Jon Post the before picture of the fire wall and then post what it looks like Now

after the firewall is painted it will be time to get the engine and trans painted and installed for the last time.


so come on Jon get some pictures posted
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 02/10/13 04:57 AM

well Jon must be to busy to post some more pictures

so here are some shots of the fire wall before and now








Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 03/25/13 07:58 PM

well I see that Jon is to busy to post some progress on his truck so I guess I will


he got the rear suspension back in to the chassis we just need to finish up the upper shock mounts and the back is finished except for the brake lines and making a bed .


here are the pics of the 4 bar and air bags...


down





UP


Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 02/28/14 01:30 AM

I've been working on the truck, just haven't posted about it.

Hopefully getting some more progress pics up soon.
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 04/08/14 08:53 AM

Finished painting the firewall today. Thanks for the help, Ron.


Final Coat Video
Posted By: OhioMopar

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 04/13/14 03:15 PM

Very cool!
I think building a street rod would be great. Seems I am packed to the gills with muscle cars, though.
Posted By: JonsGottaDusta

Re: 1940 Plymouth Willys Pickup - Project Thread - 04/18/14 12:33 AM

No real important updates since my last post. Working on running all new brake lines and painting/installing the master cylinder and junction block. Hoping that will all be wrapped up tonight, then on to bleeding the brakes. I'm off for the next five days, and therefore have no excuses.
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