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my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build
Posted By: sublimehemi
my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/10/11 04:17 AM
hey guys time to post my build...quick run down...my 38,000 mile original time capsule is getting a complete make over...its a 318/904/ 8 3/4 charger 500 with heavy duty drums,sublime green white interior black vinyl top car...full wheel cover 14 inch car with raised white letter poly glass tires..ultra rare 318 car...bought it from original owner 14 years ago with 29000 miles...he worked at the plant in Michigan and special ordered the car....my 528 all aluminum hemi is at chenoweth right now getting done....have full hotchkis tvs ready to go on and just took off my 14 inch polyglass and put on 18 American Racing torqlites wraped in toyo ra1 245/40/18 front and 275/35/18 rear..i have been on poly glass for 14 yeas and stepping up 4 more inches to one of best pro touring tire in the industry...omg the charger drove so nice tonight.
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/10/11 04:18 AM
now with the 18's
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/10/11 04:25 AM
another pic
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/10/11 11:50 PM
Nice, but I love those 14" covers. wish I could find a way to mount them to 15's. good color too.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 12:18 AM
Nice car. Just my opinion, not a fan of the spoiler on any charger. EXCEPT the Daytona.
I think the go wings spoil the body lines of the car.
How much ya got done on the HEMI plant?
Kasey
Posted By: Old School
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 01:52 AM
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Nice car. Just my opinion, not a fan of the spoiler on any charger. EXCEPT the Daytona.
I think the go wings spoil the body lines of the car.
How much ya got done on the HEMI plant?
Kasey
same here, nice car. i also dont care for " the chip foose dub look" on our old muscle cars. leave the big rims for the newer cars, that were designed for them, and look good on them. but, thats just me. i'm more oldschool....
Posted By: Bad340fish
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 01:54 AM
Looks great!
Posted By: ProSport
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 03:21 AM
Looks good! My next car will be a pro touring driver.
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 06:17 AM
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Nice car. Just my opinion, not a fan of the spoiler on any charger. EXCEPT the Daytona.
I think the go wings spoil the body lines of the car.
How much ya got done on the HEMI plant?
Kasey
here are specs
world 4.5 alum bushed block
mopar edelbrock heads
mopar engines west hemi roller camshaft the hemi book cam
comp elite lifters
barton hemi roller rockers
mopar barton 4150 intake plumed with 60 pounders
scorpian 2000 cfm throttle body 1.4 inches tall
k1 rods
je 10.5
4.150 crank
milodon pro touring oil pan
ez efi retro fit
crane pro cure dizzy
full hotchkis tvs kit
should run good,hoping for 700+
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 06:18 AM
rad pic
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 06:23 AM
should fit under the hood i measured my buddys six pack...thank god for the new 1.4 inch 2000cfm scorpian throttle throttle body..
Posted By: Crazy68Dart
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 11:55 AM
Amazing what a set of wheels and tires will do... looks great.
The Dart had 13" wheels and tires from the factory, and after the resto will be on 17s. Too bad it has been eight years in the making, I don't think the "swap shock" will be as significant, lol. Just trying to get it back together.
Posted By: john55
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 01:32 PM
cool car, cool engine build
keep us updated on it Mike
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/11/11 11:22 PM
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should fit under the hood i measured my buddys six pack...thank god for the new 1.4 inch 2000cfm scorpian throttle throttle body..
I hope so no much room under a 70 hood ask me how I know.. they factory six-pack set-up pushes up into the hood insolation...so if it's ANY hight you'll be into the hood quick. Not sure if the eddy heads sit higher than factory. I know my stage VI heads do.
Posted By: Darrell
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/12/11 12:32 AM
Hey Mike, Glad to know you are getting it together!!! LQQks awsome!!
Posted By: 340RICK
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/12/11 02:19 AM
Goood for you
Hub caps are for lawn chair dorks
I think the car looks sweet with big tires
Posted By: autoxcuda
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/12/11 08:41 AM
Doesn't seem like enough tire for the potential of that car.
I thought you could fit 295's on the rear of a 68-70 charger. And I'm pretty sure you could fit 275/40/17 or 275/35/18 on the fronts.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/12/11 01:30 PM
700 hp should be easy with that combo! Keep us up on the engine build.
KAsey
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/12/11 02:17 PM
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should fit under the hood i measured my buddys six pack...thank god for the new 1.4 inch 2000cfm scorpian throttle throttle body..
I hope so no much room under a 70 hood ask me how I know.. they factory six-pack set-up pushes up into the hood insolation...so if it's ANY hight you'll be into the hood quick. Not sure if the eddy heads sit higher than factory. I know my stage VI heads do.
He's got a hemi and that throttle body is half as thick as a carb, plus hood pads , like hubcaps , are for lawn chair dorks .
I'll not comment on the wheels or spoiler since the OP is outlining his build NOT asking for opinions on the look of the car.
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/12/11 09:37 PM
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Doesn't seem like enough tire for the potential of that car. I thought you could fit 295's on the rear of a 68-70 charger. And I'm pretty sure you could fit 275/40/17 or 275/35/18 on the fronts.
hi autox,i always read your posts and thanks for all the info you write...i totally agree with my tire sizes....but here is why i had to do it..first off these wheels are American Racing torqlites,which are copies of weld pro stars but in an 18.when bob weld died ar stole the design and then the new owner of weld had a lawsuit against ar for stealing it,so ar wholesaled these things for 400 a set..they were a steal if you ask me...my rears are only 18x8 and a 275 35 18 just barley fits notice how they bulge slightly but i like it...i will have these wheels professionally widened next time around...my fronts are 18x7,and i did this cause a i wanted a deeper dish on the rear....these are the only sizes that were made by ar... 18x7 and 18x8.they did make in 17 and 15..i think 16 too.i also picked these wheels cause every thing looks gheeto in a 18 except fikse or weld rts which are 3k plus.everyone an their mother has torqethrusts plus since these wheels are all sold out just recently nobody has them except a few on ebay and you cant buy them anymore and the prostar is a American classic now and always will be.plus i like how the lugs are shrouded and not exposed like other wheels.here is another pic...
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/12/11 09:46 PM
another
Posted By: Hotchkis
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/13/11 03:31 AM
SublimeHemi – WOW! That looks like a really clean Charger! Congratulations on the new wheels! We look forward to watching the project. Thanks for picking our TVS for your updated suspension. Keep us updated on the progress.
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/13/11 07:32 AM
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SublimeHemi – WOW! That looks like a really clean Charger! Congratulations on the new wheels! We look forward to watching the project. Thanks for picking our TVS for your updated suspension. Keep us updated on the progress.
thanks hotchkis,i can not wait to put the kit on..quick question notice the way my car sits with 318 leaf springs,how much lower do you think its gonna sit or will it stay the same?
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/13/11 06:28 PM
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SublimeHemi – WOW! That looks like a really clean Charger! Congratulations on the new wheels! We look forward to watching the project. Thanks for picking our TVS for your updated suspension. Keep us updated on the progress.
thanks hotchkis,i can not wait to put the kit on..quick question notice the way my car sits with 318 leaf springs,how much lower do you think its gonna sit or will it stay the same?
not sure if it will sit any lower. FWIW you need more meat out back.
Posted By: autoxcuda
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/14/11 03:21 AM
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SublimeHemi – WOW! That looks like a really clean Charger! Congratulations on the new wheels! We look forward to watching the project. Thanks for picking our TVS for your updated suspension. Keep us updated on the progress.
thanks hotchkis,i can not wait to put the kit on..quick question notice the way my car sits with 318 leaf springs,how much lower do you think its gonna sit or will it stay the same?
Are they 40 year old 318 leaf springs?
If they are old and sagging I bet it will sit 1" lower. That's about what they did to my car. Newer springs, maybe 2".
Posted By: RTSE4ME
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/14/11 01:49 PM
Nice build SublimeHemi. Should be a blast to drive when finished.
I just put the rear springs on my Challenger and it only lowered the car 1/2". Was hoping for a 2" drop.
Had original springs with DrDiff hangers in the lower hole of the front spring mount.
Installed the new Hotchkis springs in the upper mounting hole. Wish they offered different rear spring choices but that would a real pain for them.
btw...Fikse is having a spring sale on 18" wheels.
Posted By: autoxcuda
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/14/11 10:23 PM
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Nice build SublimeHemi. Should be a blast to drive when finished.
I just put the rear springs on my Challenger and it only lowered the car 1/2". Was hoping for a 2" drop.
Had original springs with DrDiff hangers in the lower hole of the front spring mount.
Installed the new Hotchkis springs in the upper mounting hole. Wish they offered different rear spring choices but that would a real pain for them.
btw...Fikse is having a spring sale on 18" wheels.
Was the upper hole in the Dr Diff front hangers lower than the Hotchkis front hanger?
What side rear tires do you have? What is the measurement from the ground to the top of the rear fender lip front and rear?
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/16/11 03:12 AM
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SublimeHemi – WOW! That looks like a really clean Charger! Congratulations on the new wheels! We look forward to watching the project. Thanks for picking our TVS for your updated suspension. Keep us updated on the progress.
thanks hotchkis,i can not wait to put the kit on..quick question notice the way my car sits with 318 leaf springs,how much lower do you think its gonna sit or will it stay the same?
Are they 40 year old 318 leaf springs?
If they are old and sagging I bet it will sit 1" lower. That's about what they did to my car. Newer springs, maybe 2".
yes original springs and shocks...just checked for sag...they sure are...
Posted By: Hotchkis
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 05/18/11 05:19 PM
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SublimeHemi – WOW! That looks like a really clean Charger! Congratulations on the new wheels! We look forward to watching the project. Thanks for picking our TVS for your updated suspension. Keep us updated on the progress.
thanks hotchkis,i can not wait to put the kit on..quick question notice the way my car sits with 318 leaf springs,how much lower do you think its gonna sit or will it stay the same?
SublimeHemi - these two awesome Mopars are a good representation of out-of-the-box parts:
Mike's Charger
Dan's Road Runner
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/31/12 10:22 PM
hey guys,my hemi went on the dyno today....670 hp at 6200 and did 660 torque ....not bad for riches fastman efi hot street solid roller cam and out of box mopar heads..this is a hard dyno as well
Posted By: HemiRick
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/31/12 11:44 PM
Thats awesome I have that cam in my 528, and was gonna say that yes EFI will fit under the stock hood, mine does, but you probably know this by now.
Posted By: Mopar_Rich
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 04/01/12 12:14 AM
Hey Rick. I don't want to steal this thread but I haven't heard how your HEMI runs with that cam. Since it's been a few years I assume its running by now.
Posted By: HemiRick
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 04/01/12 07:04 AM
I just got some push rods and am making some mods to the valvetrain oiling. It should be together soon !
Please give me your thoughts on this thread
moparts question Thanks
Posted By: Lee446
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 04/01/12 02:44 PM
What are the specs on that cam? Thanks!
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 04/02/12 03:06 AM
here
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 04/02/12 04:09 AM
i dropped the duration just a touch 241 246 cause in the hemi book rich used 572 im using 528 but i think the larger wheel diameter of the comp elites lifters brings it back to riches specs....its running 10.4 compression with out of the box mopar/edelbrock hemi heads and mopar/ barton 4150 4bl intake
we just threw a dominator on it with a spacer,used 2.25 tti,i bought the holley hp efi and did not end up using the fast ez system...
what a great combo i have to say it has more in it...hats off to mike and dale chenoweth and mopar rich i love my new bullet...will post pics soon
Posted By: astjp2
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 04/02/12 08:33 PM
I have a similar combination, do you have any HP numbers? Tim
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 04/03/12 03:08 AM
670 hp 660 tq,i made 1.27 hp per cubic inch with my 528 and the book hemi had 572 which made the same 1.27...that 44 extra cubes made the difference..my dyno curve is the same as the book even when hp and torque crosses paths ... fastman efi ran his 4 deg advanced and so did i..i wonder what it would of done with jeff's at modern cnc program?...
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/13/13 10:39 AM
almost ready to drop in...im getting excited...here is a pic....im really happy with the way my front drive system worked out...i could of did it with one belt if i would have put a little more time...you guys like?
Posted By: SKR8PN
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/13/13 12:20 PM
Car looks great!
One question....are you upgrading the brakes as well?
Posted By: 71birdJ68
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/13/13 02:55 PM
How much money does the Pro Tour thing pay a year?
Posted By: efisixpack
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/13/13 04:10 PM
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i bought the holley hp efi and did not end up using the fast ez system...
Just curious as to why you decided on the Holley system over the easy efi?
Posted By: sublimehemi
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/13/13 08:54 PM
well im in love with the new holley efi system....ez efi is batch-fire and does not control timing...holley hp is sequential and controls timing..i wanted a very capable system...the holley hp is the best system for the money...especially when on sale:) the new ez efi II looks promising saw it at drag expo...controls timing now and they tweaked the software a bunch....but its going to be over 3k...
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: my 70 charger 528 alum hemi efi pro touring build - 03/14/13 11:59 PM
Awesome build.