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mustang 2 front susp. ?

Posted By: 37dodge

mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/19/09 09:44 PM

I have a stock m2 crossmember and stock spindles.
My question is, can i switch the spindles to make it rear steer? It looks like the upper and lower ball joint holes line up with the center of the spindle so to me it looks ok, but am i missing something?

nick
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/19/09 10:01 PM

Quote:

I have a stock m2 crossmember and stock spindles.
My question is, can i switch the spindles to make it rear steer? It looks like the upper and lower ball joint holes line up with the center of the spindle so to me it looks ok, but am i missing something?

nick




I was just looking at a model A at crusin' Grand friday and it had a must.II frontend and yes the spindles were changed from side to side so the brakes were on the front, but I never did find the guy to find out what rack and pinion he used for the rear steer. and I didn't look and see if he had any issues with the strut rods.

if you reverse the spindles you have to use a rear steer rack or you will be steering backwards Ron...
Posted By: poorboy

Re: mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/20/09 12:14 AM

Most 80s& 90s front drive Mopars (not Intrepid body cars, they are front steer) have rear steer racks. The Caviler rack is also a rear steer. Gene
Posted By: 37dodge

Re: mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/20/09 02:47 AM

thanks for the replies. not worried about a rear steer rack. Just like to know if switching the spindles is going to change the geometry of the suspension. Will the car steer or handle funny?

thanks nick
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/20/09 03:29 AM

I think you can do it, I have seen some of the aftermarket units with rear steer and mustang style spindles.
what are you putting it on that you need to have rear steer? Ron...
Posted By: 37dodge

Re: mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/20/09 11:33 PM

the m2 in a 37 dodge the problem is with the 440 oil pump and filter. it looks like i would have to move the engine about 3in to the p/s. So i'm looking for some other options.

thanks nick
Posted By: poorboy

Re: mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/21/09 02:10 AM

There has been a lot of debate about the Ackerman in the steering. Moving the steering from a front steer to a rear steer will likely make it necessary to make a change in the position of the steering arms.

The Ackerman therory states that during a turn, the outside wheel travels on a larger diamiter circle then the inside wheel does. If the Ackerman is incorrect, the tires will be fighting themselves (scuffing the tires) during a turn. A system needs to be built that allows the wheels to follow the correct diamiter circle, reguardless of the direction of the circle. To accomplish correct Ackerman, the outer tie rod and the lower ball joint (or spindle pivot) need to lay on an imagineary line running from the center of the rear axle through both the spindle pivot and the outer tie rod, for each side of the vehical. Obously if the vehical has a front steer (tie rods in front of the spindles) the location of the tie rod end needs to sit outside of the spindle pivot, and if the vehical has a rear steer (tie rods behind the spindles), the tie rod end sits inside the spindle pivot for the Ackerman to be correct. Gene
Posted By: RodStRace

Re: mustang 2 front susp. ? - 04/21/09 02:18 AM

More info here
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/ackerman-geometry-30328.html
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