Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 04:03 AM
This rear end is in my newly acquired 37 Plymouth 2 door businessman coupe, it's got modern brakes with a Ford/Mopar 4.5 bolt circle pattern, what is it?
Posted By: Neil
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 04:14 AM
Looky like an early Oldsmobile to me.
Ford 8" are flat on the bottom + the pinion bearings have a cover on the front behind the yoke, which this doesn't have.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 04:19 AM
Looky like an early Oldsmobile to me.
Ford 8" are flat on the bottom + the pinion bearings have a cover on the front behind the yoke, which this doesn't have.
Olds had a 4.5 inch bolt pattern?
Posted By: amxautox
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 04:20 AM
Oh ya, forgot about the flatness. I don't know anything about any GM types.
Posted By: Neil
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 04:27 AM
Not sure on the bolt pattern for cars way back then. Someone may have put other axles in it when they did the rear brake swap?
I'm not 100% sure it's an Old axle, but it looks like that more than anything else I can think of right now.
Posted By: poorboy
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 04:44 AM
Are the ends of the axle flanges flat, or do they have a nut on the end? are the springs narrow,(like 2" wide)? It almost looks like the original 37 Plymouth rear end. That rear end was used up until 64. They were a lot like an 8 3/4 but nothing from the 65 on 8 3/4 interchanges. Gene
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 05:04 AM
Are the ends of the axle flanges flat, or do they have a nut on the end? are the springs narrow,(like 2" wide)? It almost looks like the original 37 Plymouth rear end. That rear end was used up until 64. They were a lot like an 8 3/4 but nothing from the 65 on 8 3/4 interchanges. Gene
I will have to pull a wheel and see
Posted By: Spaceman Spiff
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 05:05 AM
Looky like an early Oldsmobile to me.
Ford 8" are flat on the bottom + the pinion bearings have a cover on the front behind the yoke, which this doesn't have.
Olds rears don't have a bump for the ring gear.
Posted By: Neil
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 05:35 AM
These appear to have the bump in the back, and a bunch of mounting brackets that Dave's doesn't have.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-58-59-60-6...tMQ&vxp=mtr
Posted By: Spaceman Spiff
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 05:46 AM
‘57 olds has leaf springs. Those in the picture from eBay aren’t from a leaf spring car.
Posted By: Neil
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 06:28 AM
Here is a guy selling just the center section. It has three ribs on the drivers side and two on the passenger side with one angled up at the 10 o'clock position. Daves's rear end has too much dirt on it for me to see if the fill hole is in the same spot. Note to Dave to please wash his rear end before sharing pics please.
Tabs on the housing could have been cut off in the past. Or maybe it's not a 57-64 Olds Pontiac setup?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-64-DROP-OUT-V...=item3d4fe362ad
Posted By: John Brown
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 07:22 AM
I think that 57 58 59 and 60 Olds all used leaf springs. 57 Pontiac had leafs, but 58 through 64 Pontiac used coils, along with the 61 through 64 Oldsmobiles.
Posted By: John Brown
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 07:24 AM
From your other pictures the axles don't appear to be the type that have a nut holding them on.
Posted By: DoctorDiff
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 07:25 AM
That is a '57-'64 Olds/Pontiac rear.
Posted By: moparx
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 02:48 PM
That is a '57-'64 Olds/Pontiac rear.
wouldn't that have a 5" bolt pattern if the axles are stock ?
Posted By: feets
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 04:38 PM
That is a '57-'64 Olds/Pontiac rear.
wouldn't that have a 5" bolt pattern if the axles are stock ?
Lotsa things get tweaked in 60 years...
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 06:44 PM
That is a '57-'64 Olds/Pontiac rear.
wouldn't that have a 5" bolt pattern if the axles are stock ?
Lotsa things get tweaked in 60 years...
Thats for sure, I don't know how many different motors this has had over the years but guessing from all the welded on brackets or what's left of them I'm guessing at least 3 different motor set ups
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: Help me identify this rear end - 11/24/17 06:57 PM
Found this link on the HAMB regarding bolt patterns. Don't know if it's much help to you, though.
http://www.roddingroundtable.com/tech/articles/boltpat.html