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What Head?

Posted By: kissmyaspen

What Head? - 12/02/11 04:22 AM

Okay, looking to run 10.90 in a 3600lb 67 satellite. what head would you go with. looking to stay with hydralic cam and stock style hd valve train. been looking at 440 source heads, edelbrocks and just looked at indy's 440 ez head. what would be the better bang for the buck.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 01:13 PM

How many cubes...
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 01:32 PM

440 non stroker.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 01:54 PM

Indy EZ.
Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 02:12 PM

I don't think a Stealth or Eddie RPM will get you there unported. I ran 10.70's with unported RPM's, a 555/570 Hughes Hyd. cam, Isky 1.5 ductile iron rockers on a TRW piston 440 in a 2950lb. car with a glide.
Same combo went 10.0's with a 640 ultradyne solid and Ross pistons.

I'd have to seriously look at the cost of CNC ported Stealths or Eddie RPMs versus off the shelf Indy EZ or SRs if I were starting from scratch.
If the port volume gets too big, it will want more rpm on a 440 than a hyd. cam will handle.

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Posted By: 383man

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 03:31 PM

I bought my Indy EZ heads from Dwayne Porter. He did a little porting and gave me a very good price. My 63 goes 3700 with me in it and only has 7 track passes so far with a best of 10.70's so far. It is a pump gas street car raced thru the pipes. Ron
Posted By: Dragula

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 03:48 PM

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Indy EZ.



Ported Indy EZ heads, and probably a solid cam at that weight. If you also kill it by having a convertor tighter than 4000, you will need more cubes too.
Posted By: StrokerAspen

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 03:51 PM

Why not a Victor head? Man are they a good head for the money! They beat the 440-1 everywhere on our flow bench...

-Kenny
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 03:58 PM

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I don't think a Stealth or Eddie RPM will get you there unported. I ran 10.70's with unported RPM's, a 555/570 Hughes Hyd. cam, Isky 1.5 ductile iron rockers on a TRW piston 440 in a 2950lb. car with a glide.
Same combo went 10.0's with a 640 ultradyne solid and Ross pistons.

I'd have to seriously look at the cost of CNC ported Stealths or Eddie RPMs versus off the shelf Indy EZ or SRs if I were starting from scratch.
If the port volume gets too big, it will want more rpm on a 440 than a hyd. cam will handle.



pretty sure my buddy's old 69 Coronet went 10.90's w/ e-heads, 590 cam. and 4.56's. Nothing really fancy about the car, even ran the 318 leaf springs and traction bars.
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 06:01 PM

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Why not a Victor head? Man are they a good head for the money! They beat the 440-1 everywhere on our flow bench...

-Kenny


I looked at them too. i kinda know 10.90's is stretch for this set-up.. guess i really just want to be faster than 11.50 because i want to run nss 11.50 or 11 class. its been 11.80's with just a 509 mp cam stock 906 heads flat top pistons.. nothing fancy at all and 1.58 60'.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 06:21 PM

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Why not a Victor head? Man are they a good head for the money! They beat the 440-1 everywhere on our flow bench...

-Kenny


I looked at them too. i kinda know 10.90's is stretch for this set-up.. guess i really just want to be faster than 11.50 because i want to run nss 11.50 or 11 class. its been 11.80's with just a 509 mp cam stock 906 heads flat top pistons.. nothing fancy at all and 1.58 60'.



You have a decent 60ft, so heads will help your ET for sure, and so would a solid cam. I would suggest the Mopar .557 solid and a good set of mildly ported heads. We put a 512 togather on pump gas with unported EZ heads, and it is a beast. I like them, and the valves are a 2.19" on the intake side which really seems to get the things breathing. I am not a fan of eddy heads. If your going to spend the money, get a head you can come back to later and fully port them to match your next combo. Your going to need about 90hp to hit your goal of 10's so, get a good set, maybe a used set that just needs a going thru to be put back into action.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 06:24 PM

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Why not a Victor head? Man are they a good head for the money! They beat the 440-1 everywhere on our flow bench...

-Kenny


I looked at them too. i kinda know 10.90's is stretch for this set-up.. guess i really just want to be faster than 11.50 because i want to run nss 11.50 or 11 class. its been 11.80's with just a 509 mp cam stock 906 heads flat top pistons.. nothing fancy at all and 1.58 60'.



Don't some NSS rules limit head choice? I'd think a home ported set of Stealth heads 590-600 soild lift cam and a set of roller rockers should get you close to 10.90 as long as your convert and gear are matched up.
Posted By: domingo

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 06:26 PM

i thinkn stealths with bowl blending, port matching and a good valve job and a nice solid cam like the MP .557 nad a performer RPM intake manifold and nice headers will get you what you want. Or at least real close.

If you were to stroke it to 500 inches or more, you would definetly get what you want.
Posted By: StrokerAspen

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 08:01 PM

HAHA! Sorry, just realized you are shooting for 10.90. I read it as 10.00 at first. I was thinking "Man, 10.00 with RPM's might be a strech"

10.90 should be able to be done with the RPM's or Stealths, I wouls still go to a victor if it is allowed.

-Kenny
Posted By: dennismopar73

Re: What Head? - 12/02/11 08:08 PM

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I don't think a Stealth or Eddie RPM will get you there unported. I ran 10.70's with unported RPM's, a 555/570 Hughes Hyd. cam, Isky 1.5 ductile iron rockers on a TRW piston 440 in a 2950lb. car with a glide.
Same combo went 10.0's with a 640 ultradyne solid and Ross pistons.

I'd have to seriously look at the cost of CNC ported Stealths or Eddie RPMs versus off the shelf Indy EZ or SRs if I were starting from scratch.
If the port volume gets too big, it will want more rpm on a 440 than a hyd. cam will handle.



BU;; SHZZZ
Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: What Head? - 12/03/11 02:11 AM

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I don't think a Stealth or Eddie RPM will get you there unported. I ran 10.70's with unported RPM's, a 555/570 Hughes Hyd. cam, Isky 1.5 ductile iron rockers on a TRW piston 440 in a 2950lb. car with a glide.
Same combo went 10.0's with a 640 ultradyne solid and Ross pistons.

I'd have to seriously look at the cost of CNC ported Stealths or Eddie RPMs versus off the shelf Indy EZ or SRs if I were starting from scratch.
If the port volume gets too big, it will want more rpm on a 440 than a hyd. cam will handle.



BU;; SHZZZ




Care to elaborate with intelligent conversation?? I'm simply relating personal real-world info. You care to engage us with your brilliance, or is this just a drive by from the peanut gallery??

Mr. Yuck,
You mentioned a 10.90 Eddie combo that featured a solid cam, the OP said he prefered to stay hydraulic.

Everyone seems quick to bash suggestions without reading all the info.

The Victors require an offset rocker, correct? That adds an expense as well.

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Posted By: sam64

Re: What Head? - 12/03/11 02:19 AM

beleive me them gebharts[moparbilly and family]have tried more real world combo's than andy f.
Posted By: kissmyaspen

Re: What Head? - 12/03/11 02:59 AM

Thats one reason I kinda shyed away from the victors plus the seats need finished.
Posted By: 67HEMI

Re: What Head? - 12/05/11 05:53 PM

Mine has lil ez 295's from Compu-flow. 10.20's all day long @ 3780 through the mufflers on pump gas. Then drive to the Sonic for a burger
Posted By: deaks

Re: What Head? - 12/05/11 06:31 PM

Big hydraulic,Ported EZ heads, or Victors if you can stretch that far, should sneak you into the 10's, if you already have a decent converter.
Mick
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