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Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block

Posted By: tex013

Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 09/30/11 03:08 AM

what is peoples experiance with beehive springs ?
on a solid FT cam.under 600 lift.
in a street strip car
durability ?
i see comp now lists some - same as big block chev.
am i better off with duals,bite the bullet and swap out the inners for break in
i do have source heads
oh - i don't plan for over 6500RPM
thoughts

Tex
Posted By: Locomotion

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 09/30/11 04:59 PM

I put beehives on my 360 earlier this year with only .474" lift, but steep ramps and a lot of duration. I shift at around 6,700 and they work great! One thing I really like about beehives is that you don't have to worry about retainer-to-rocker clearance!

I would call Comp Cams for their recommendations. But with the right installed and open pressures, the should work well for you also. After all, a lot of OEM engines use them. Beehives are suppose to have a few advantages over conventional springs, like lighter retainers and can get by with a little less pressure while still controling the valve train.

Flat tappet break in may be more difficult since you don't have inners to remove. Perhaps there may be a softer set of springs that could be substituted. But it would cost extra.
Posted By: tex013

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 09/30/11 11:31 PM

thanks Locomotion,
break in was what has me worried.
obvious not many if any are using them in big blocks.
Tex
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 10/01/11 12:22 AM

I've used beehive springs in a bunch of Mopar engine builds. Look thru my articles in the tech archives and you'll find lots of pictures and part numbers.
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 10/01/11 03:20 AM

The beehive springs are supposed to have good dynamics, and uses a smaller/lighter retainer. They are more expensive, and most I have seen are for under 0.600" lift cams. I thought about using them on my 505 buildup, but with 0.617" valve lift, I decided to just use dual springs. Besides, the dual springs are about $75 less than the beehive springs.
Posted By: tex013

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 10/01/11 06:44 AM

thanks Andy,
saw your write up on the 383 stroker.would you consider any break in issues possible if useing EDM solid lifters on either a comp or hughes cam with the beehive spring ?as opposed to the schubeck type
or would the hughes cam,possibly faster ramp,and greater lift be a stretch ?
comp XTQ286S 550/570 gross lift
Hughes HTL5660BS3 579/587 gross lift

thanks again,

Tex
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 10/01/11 04:51 PM

Here is an article that I did for Mopar Max. I used an extremely agressive cam and a set of stiff beehive springs. No problems at all with break in.
http://www.moparmax.com/tech/2011/vi_8-flat-1.html
Posted By: tex013

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 10/02/11 01:39 AM

thanks mate,
i had read but forgot about that article.
i'll talk to comp next week

Tex
Posted By: Mike Swann

Re: Beehive or dual valve springs? for big block - 10/02/11 01:53 AM


dual with a damper.
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