Posted By: 67mprfan
fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 02:36 AM
does the damper needs to move alittle more or do i need a longer bolt it's a fluid damper on a 440 crank i have a inst tool maybe not using it right ( stock crank bolt)
fluid damper inst help
Posted By: 67mprfan
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 02:37 AM
a few pic
Posted By: 67mprfan
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 02:38 AM
1 more
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 02:39 AM
Not all the way there yet.I use anti seize on the damper hub also.
Posted By: Hot 340
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 02:51 AM
Did you check the clearances? Alot of dampers, if not most, need honed to fit.
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 02:55 AM
Every fluid dampener I have owned needed to be honed to fit
Posted By: 67mprfan
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:02 AM
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Did you check the clearances? Alot of dampers, if not most, need honed to fit.
are you talking inside clearance
Posted By: 67mprfan
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:05 AM
not 2 sound dumb what would be the proper way to use the inst tool 
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:05 AM
Quote:Quote:
Did you check the clearances? Alot of dampers, if not most, need honed to fit.
are you talking inside clearance
yup he is
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:20 AM
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not 2 sound dumb what would be the proper way to use the inst tool
Once you hone it a little I just use a grade 8 bolt
with 3 good washers and pull it on with my impact
wrench (use a couple different bolt lengths if needed
so you have at least the bolt diameter into the crank
and dont bottom out)
Posted By: 67mprfan
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:23 AM
i'll chek it but thinkin it didn't need it i bought it used so should have been done.......but my thinking is not always the greastest
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:44 AM
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i'll chek it but thinkin it didn't need it i bought it used so should have been done.......but my thinking is not always the greastest
If it was on another engine MORE THAN LIKELY it will
fit yours... pull it on with a impact and a grade 8 bolt
and a few good washers
Posted By: Bigcube
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:51 AM
Maybe they sold it cause they could never get it on all the way. 
Hone it and use a good balancer pusher to install. And use anti seize as already mentioned.
Hone it and use a good balancer pusher to install. And use anti seize as already mentioned.
Posted By: Mopar-Al
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 10:48 AM
Is that metal shavings or rust dust in your first picture? You might should pull it back off, clean it up to inspect it. If you keep trying to install it further, you may get thread damage if you already haven't yet.
Posted By: 65dragnet
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 10:49 AM
It's not on all the way in my opinion , and like already stated it probably needs honed . Mine needed honed also. I made my own install tool and I don't use the crank threads to pull it on. 
Posted By: d-150
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 02:57 PM
if it was on a motor try to heat the damper in the oven
Posted By: bonefish
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 03:47 PM
thats not even close to being on, there should about 1/8 in. between the cover and the damper.pull, it back off and see if your pushing a ridge into it,if you are it needs to be honed.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 04:17 PM
Quote:Bingo...........mike the crank snout and the id of the dampner and go from there. Mine was about a .002 press fit iirc.
Did you check the clearances? Alot of dampers, if not most, need honed to fit.
Posted By: 340B5
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 04:38 PM
Mine won't fit cold. I heat it up 250 degrees or a little more and it slides right on. I also use a little anti-seize.
Posted By: dOrk !
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 05:22 PM
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Mine won't fit cold. I heat it up 250 degrees or a little more and it slides right on. I also use a little anti-seize.
And how much "grunt" on the puller do you have to use ...to pull it off?
Posted By: Hot 340
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 06:01 PM
Quote:.002 is awful tight. I would go .0015 to .001 press fit.Quote:Bingo...........mike the crank snout and the id of the dampner and go from there. Mine was about a .002 press fit iirc.
Did you check the clearances? Alot of dampers, if not most, need honed to fit.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/18/11 07:24 PM
Again, that was off the top of my head so who knows.
Posted By: 340B5
Re: fluid damper inst help - 09/19/11 02:16 AM
Quote:Quote:
Mine won't fit cold. I heat it up 250 degrees or a little more and it slides right on. I also use a little anti-seize.
And how much "grunt" on the puller do you have to use ...to pull it off?
Not much. The best way to describe it is a light press fit.