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Track report !
Posted By: 383man
Track report ! - 08/25/11 05:35 AM
Yes I drove to the track tonight and put 2 passes on my 63. I had some problems and found out it was way lean.
First pass it just would not rev good and felt real flat......11.27 @ 113 !
Yuk but my brother was watching and he said it looked good as it pulled about 6 inches under the front wheels but I said it felt real bad. I had just stuck the 850 DP on that was on my old 440 and I knew it needed more carb but I used what I had. Well we pulled the 80 primary jets and put 86's in. Car started fine and idled fine. Next and final pass for the night.........11.04 @ 121.42.
Ok we made a drastic jet change to find out we are going in the right direction. We were going to pull the secondary bowl but I decided to call it a night as my back was hurting alot and my left knee was giving me alot of pain and I was not up to any more work. So I called it a night telling myself that 11.04 @ 121 is not to bad for the second ever pass on my pump gas full exh 3700 lb street car that I drove the 90 mile round trip. I will pull the carb and work it over this week. I wish I had a Dominator or a nice 950 to try but I will use what I have. I honestly think it has easy 10.80's or better and I hope to find out soon. I know I could have jetted the secondary side and came home with a 10.9 something pass but I was just not up to it. I had fun and hope to get back to the track in a month or so.
Ron
Posted By: cudadoug
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 05:40 AM
Geez, 11.04 @ 121 first time out, 3700#, DRIVEN there and back...
GREAT first couple of laps! Congrats!!!!
Sorry about your pains, but you're right..it's alot less fun when you're hurting, is it?
This fall it will go in the 10's EASY with the 850, but yea it probably needs more air and fuel.
Posted By: SCATPK
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 05:45 AM
I am impressed Ron, that thing is running nice and strong! And the fact that it is a pump gas engine that can be driven and knock of 10 second passes is saying something in my book! I myself would like to see my car run an easy 11.50 or so with its current gear and driveline setup and I would be a happy man! Your are definitly running old school iron and showing the guys with modern muscle that the older cars can still perform and show them some taillights.
Posted By: tex013
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 05:45 AM
cool !
glad it went well
maybe you need to step up to a proform 950 or Hp1000,bit bigger than a Holley 850
they are cheap enough on your end of the world
Tex
Posted By: deaks
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 10:55 AM
Congrats Ron
I thought 10.90's first time out, so i wasn't to far off. I agree with Tex a 950 or bigger carb would help it, maybe play with timing and carb jetting.
At least you had no major issues.
What were your 1/8 mile times and 60ft, also weather.
Mick
Posted By: 493_DART
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 11:07 AM
hows that 493 torque feel ?
pulls hard dont she ......
cool that you drove it that far and back
Posted By: Mr. T
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 11:25 AM
That car is definitely smelling of the 10's!! I bet it felt good to return to the track after such a long absence. Has your job situation improved? Keep us posted.
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 01:42 PM
Good first outing,Ron!! I would like to see a Dominator on your 493...Then...Hang on!!
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 01:51 PM
Good first outing for sure.
You need a 1050 dominator in my opinion and the 2-circuit works fine on the street when dialed in. Save yourself lots of pain and wear and tear on your motor and install a wide band..............you`ll get that 10 sec. pass first time out after tweeking it on the street and not hurt your motor.
Posted By: Dodgem
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 02:01 PM
Cool good first hits!
Posted By: JACK1440
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 02:35 PM
CONGRATS RON! I agree with Thumper. A 1050 will do that motor right! I agree 10.80's in your future. Gotta feed the beast!
Posted By: Mr340
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 02:56 PM
Congrat's on the first outing Ron, Good #'s
X2 on the wideband, I installed one on my car this year and it's been real helpful.
Gary.
Posted By: ZIPPY
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 04:07 PM
Good deal Ron, been looking forward to that
6" wheelies are pretty good for a street car
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 06:59 PM
Very nice results and I hope you feel better soon.
Posted By: DJVCuda
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 07:17 PM
Ron - If you want to try out an SV-1 let me know...
Congrats on getting out and running the beast!
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 07:52 PM
Sounds like a good first outing. Little carb tuning with what to got will get you that 10 in hot weather.
Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 10:35 PM
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 10:38 PM
Most 950 carbs are smaller than an 850 DP so don't go backwards.
The only "true" 950 that I'm aware of is the new 80805 Holley. Otherwise you might as well stick with the 850 and just get it dialed in correctly.
Posted By: Bigcube
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 10:57 PM
Nice job!
Congrats on a good first outing with the new bullet!
Posted By: Chargerfan68
Re: Track report ! - 08/25/11 11:10 PM
Congratulations Ron!! Great job with the new motor and very nice times so far. 10's are in the bag. Was that Cecil that you ran at?
Best of luck with you new motor.
Greg.
Posted By: BSB67
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 01:46 AM
Andy, with all due respect, didn't you just say in your last HP forum that the new Holley 950 was too big for any thing smaller than a 512 or some thing like that? 383 is running a 493 Cubic incher.
As far as Dominators, they are fine with most biggie blocks, but very few have made the magic number with them on a true street driven car like 383 as well as mine. I mean his 493 is very small compared to what's out there nowadays. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe there's a guru out there that can take the new Holley and make it run with his combo and still act civil on the street.
Posted By: topside
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 02:25 AM
Way to go, Ron, .41 quicker IIRC with only a SWAG jet-change. There's a 10 in your immediate future, using the 850. A while back there was a thread about a 4150-body 1050CFM Holley, don't recall whose but it sounded promising.
That is awesome, but it scares me that you have driven it that far with it possibly being too lean.
Posted By: mopar65
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 02:47 AM
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Yes I drove to the track tonight and put 2 passes on my 63. I had some problems and found out it was way lean.
First pass it just would not rev good and felt real flat......11.27 @ 113 !
Yuk but my brother was watching and he said it looked good as it pulled about 6 inches under the front wheels but I said it felt real bad. I had just stuck the 850 DP on that was on my old 440 and I knew it needed more carb but I used what I had. Well we pulled the 80 primary jets and put 86's in. Car started fine and idled fine. Next and final pass for the night.........11.04 @ 121.42. Ok we made a drastic jet change to find out we are going in the right direction. We were going to pull the secondary bowl but I decided to call it a night as my back was hurting alot and my left knee was giving me alot of pain and I was not up to any more work. So I called it a night telling myself that 11.04 @ 121 is not to bad for the second ever pass on my pump gas full exh 3700 lb street car that I drove the 90 mile round trip. I will pull the carb and work it over this week. I wish I had a Dominator or a nice 950 to try but I will use what I have. I honestly think it has easy 10.80's or better and I hope to find out soon. I know I could have jetted the secondary side and came home with a 10.9 something pass but I was just not up to it. I had fun and hope to get back to the track in a month or so. Ron
Hey ron great job. 11.04 is the same et i ran last saturday but for some reasion they were not giving 1/4 mile mph. so could you post what your 1/8 et and mph were also ypour 60ft. sounds like there is alot more in it.Mopar65
Posted By: hemi-itis
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 03:16 AM
Posted By: ProSport
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 03:35 AM
Great first outing Ron!
Posted By: 383man
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 02:14 PM
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Congratulations Ron!! Great job with the new motor and very nice times so far. 10's are in the bag. Was that Cecil that you ran at?
Best of luck with you new motor.
Yes that was Cecil. It actually started getting much more humid out that evening. Ron
Posted By: 383man
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 02:18 PM
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That is awesome, but it scares me that you have driven it that far with it possibly being too lean.
I have only driven it on the street where it felt fine driving normal. I would hit it a little once in a while but not really putting it to the floor and leaving it there as it felt fine even with a quick nailing the throttle. It had 80's and 86's in it with a 3.5 P/V up front. It drove fine going home and has not overheated or has no ping so I dont think it hurt anything. Ron
Posted By: 383man
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 02:23 PM
Thanks for all the kind replies. Here is the rest of the #'s:
60 - 1.57
330 - 4.157
1/8 - 7.012
mph - 97.88
1000 - 9.189
1/4 - 11.044
mph - 121.42
I will have to stick with the 850 DP for now but I will jet the secondary up some and may even mill the choke air horn off. Thanks again for the replies. Ron
Nice first outing Ron
For sure there's lots more in it
Fwiw, mine made best power with 34* total timing using the EZ heads so that might be something to consider
Ron
Posted By: Streetwize
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 03:22 PM
Nice job, buddy!
Pretty sure a Pro-systems tweaked 1000HP like on mine would suit your very similar combo, I'd imagine you could put that thing solidly in the 10.65 range or better once you're sorted. That Max Wedge dual plane really likes a lot of CFM and traction/torque is definately going to be a chassis tuning challenge to really plant all the ET potential you're going to bring.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 03:23 PM
good job Ron. 10's are in reach easy. Makes me want to step it up a bit on my ride...lol
Posted By: TonyS451
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 03:42 PM
Great first time out! You know you have a street ride that will run in the 10's, so I say well done! You can buy a new intake and a dominator and maybe pick up a tenth or two after tweaking and spending a grand. If it were me, I would just keep the nice street carb 850 and dial it in at the track next time out.
Posted By: BradH
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 04:02 PM
From what I recall you posting of the combination, I'd have expected more MPH, even w/ a chassis that wasn't hooking. Where is your timing set and how lean is that 850?
Posted By: 383man
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 04:08 PM
Brad it was pretty lean. I was hoping to do more like 125 which I hope it will once I jet some more and mess with the timing. It was definetly still lean as it was holding back and even popping in the top of the gears. Ron
Posted By: grncpe
Re: Track report ! - 08/26/11 11:55 PM
Hi Ron, you want to borrow my 950 proform that is on my 493? has been 10 teens on my pump gas muff. motor in the demon.Let me know.
Tom.
Posted By: 383man
Re: Track report ! - 08/27/11 02:20 AM
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Hi Ron, you want to borrow my 950 proform that is on my 493? has been 10 teens on my pump gas muff. motor in the demon.Let me know.
Tom.
Thanks Tom but my buddy just told me about an hr ago to try his 950 Proform. So when I go back to the track I will run the 850 and then the 950. He told me if I like the 950 to keep it on the car as he wants to put the 850 back on his car which is a street car that he never races. Ron
Posted By: MikeyT
Re: Track report ! - 08/27/11 07:31 AM
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6" wheelies are pretty good for a street car
Wow, isn't that re truth! Awesome run Ron.
Mike
Posted By: HYPER8oSoNic
Re: Track report ! - 08/27/11 08:02 AM
11.04 @ 121 ? AWESOME!!
There's a bit MORE
in your combo Ron and to say 10.9's, would be on the conservative side!
Take care of your back, feel better and "KEEP ON MAXIN' 'EM"!!
Posted By: BSB67
Re: Track report ! - 08/27/11 08:31 PM
Make sure you have good fuel pressure at the carb when you are in the traps too.
Where's the pic of you hagin the hoops?? 
