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MINI STARTER ???????

Posted By: rickstershemi

MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:19 AM

Okay....picked up a mini-starter today (91 Dak S/B).....question is the top starter bolt hole is way larger than the bottom hole, but the threads are the same.....does the top hole require a special bolt or a cam type spacer for aligning the starter....?????

This is for my 408/360 based stroker with a 70's a-body aluminum 4-speed 10.5" bell/h.

any help would be appreciated.....thanks in advance

Or did I just get the wrong mini starter for this application...????

Rickster
Posted By: ro23car

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:21 AM

your supposed to center the starter,thats why the hole is bigger on the top.
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:26 AM

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your supposed to center the starter,thats why the hole is bigger on the top.




So if I get this right you just let the starter slide into the register in the b/h and use a bolt w/large washer to lock it in place....??????

Rickster
Posted By: earthmover

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:29 AM

thats what i did on my starter...
Posted By: HEMIDARTS

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 02:13 AM

I just put a new starter on the Dart. Im using a 727.
But the top whole slides onto tranny, and a nut goes on it.
The rest of the wholes take the bolts.
Posted By: HEMIFRED

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 02:23 AM

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your supposed to center the starter,thats why the hole is bigger on the top.




I think if you check the top bolt hole is larger I have seen this due to the stud size in the trans case.

the correct position comes from the starter itself fitting into the case or adapter plate
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 02:55 AM

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your supposed to center the starter,thats why the hole is bigger on the top.




I think if you check the top bolt hole is larger I have seen this due to the stud size in the trans case.

the correct position comes from the starter itself fitting into the case or adapter plate




The top hole on this bell is the same thread size as the bottom...????? But the top hole in the starter is twice the size of the bottom hole.....only two bolt holes to use.....with the starter in place and the bottom bolt installed it is very rigid.....?????

Rickster
Posted By: Performance Only

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 03:31 AM

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your supposed to center the starter,thats why the hole is bigger on the top.




I think if you check the top bolt hole is larger I have seen this due to the stud size in the trans case.

the correct position comes from the starter itself fitting into the case or adapter plate




The top hole on this bell is the same thread size as the bottom...????? But the top hole in the starter is twice the size of the bottom hole.....only two bolt holes to use.....with the starter in place and the bottom bolt installed it is very rigid.....?????

Rickster




if you have the nose of the starter located in the bellhousing, all you need to do is bolt it up tight. the shank of the stud that's normally used for the top hole is larger than the threaded area of a standard bolt. once it's bolted up it can't move around though so it's no big deal.
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 12:49 PM

Thanks guys....I'm going to make a bushing for the top hole to fill it up....don't like the idea of just slamming a bolt in there....probably would be fine....but no big deal to make a bushing either

Rickster
Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:12 PM

Rick..

Have been using it that way for years and years.

Because of using a P/G, adapters, and flexplates, larger hole

allows adjustment, to help ring gear/starter gear mesh.

15:1 540" B1... Same big upper hole w/ smaller bolt..




Chris..
Posted By: Get-X

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:33 PM

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Thanks guys....I'm going to make a bushing for the top hole to fill it up....don't like the idea of just slamming a bolt in there....probably would be fine....but no big deal to make a bushing either

Rickster


If you have a production bell just use the correct stud. No need to fab any bushings.
Posted By: ro23car

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:41 PM

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Thanks guys....I'm going to make a bushing for the top hole to fill it up....don't like the idea of just slamming a bolt in there....probably would be fine....but no big deal to make a bushing either

Rickster


If you have a production bell just use the correct stud. No need to fab any bushings.


hey mark shouldnt you be working lol. are you going to martin,ill be there on fri.and that hole is bigger so you can adj the starter so the gears can mesh properly.
Posted By: dragram440

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:42 PM

I just have a bolt in mine and has been working good! I would never run A big one again.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:42 PM

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Thanks guys....I'm going to make a bushing for the top hole to fill it up....don't like the idea of just slamming a bolt in there....probably would be fine....but no big deal to make a bushing either

Rickster


If you have a production bell just use the correct stud. No need to fab any bushings.




Yep... its just a shouldered stud... screws into the
trans and uses a nut.... bolt on the bottom hole
Posted By: Get-X

Re: MINI STARTER ??????? - 07/21/11 01:49 PM

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Thanks guys....I'm going to make a bushing for the top hole to fill it up....don't like the idea of just slamming a bolt in there....probably would be fine....but no big deal to make a bushing either

Rickster


If you have a production bell just use the correct stud. No need to fab any bushings.


hey mark shouldnt you be working lol. are you going to martin,ill be there on fri.and that hole is bigger so you can adj the starter so the gears can mesh properly.




You should be working too!!! If I get home in time I may go to spectate. I'm too fat and old to race when it's this hot and am without a trailor atm. I could drive the GTX there, but I don't like to race without having a way to get it home if it breaks.
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